Week 5 of PvP - Statistics and Discussion

[Nicko]

Week five down – and a pretty dynamic week!

This is wordy so bare with me

First – news of the day - Jofer finally appeared! Lots of mystery for the first four weeks – but he’s been pretty active here the last few days – so welcome and hope that continues!

As far as numbers, this should be an interesting week. With the special event a number of players thought attacks were up – it remains to be seen if that continues.

Attack Wins: 100% (780/782)
Defense Wins 26% (150/569)

The Prisoner

A good deal of discussion has taken place here about how much of a difference the Prisoner makes. I will go on record and say – if he’s on your offense – it’s huge. In almost 800 matches – I lost twice. And I remember both times. One was to DJE – his GRE slaughtered my Gimp – triggering his AoF’s Passive – and that was it. Ironically – it was the same exact defense I was using! Lesson learned and necessary adjustments made . The other loss was to Compurocker. When it’s late and you’re clearing lists sometimes you do something stupid – and I took my Hellhound/Troll attack team for non-Prisoner teams in – and got quickly disposed of.

Other than that – not a single loss.

Defense? I think the new Talismans are making a difference. My defense hovered around 30% all week and the last two days nose-dived 4%. I expect plenty of non-Prisoner teams to have similar – or better – numbers. Brand new defense this week so we'll see how that goes .

Number of Attacks

I finished third, and this took a pretty high number of offensive attacks. Consequently I was attacked a lot. But there are still major imbalances out there greatly affecting the outcome. I’m sensing a great sense of frustration about this – and some like Patrice have even announced they’re stepping back until this is addressed. I would argue that there is no greater determinant of rank (given two players who are attacking the same number of times) as the number of times they’re attacked. Building a better defense has little weight if you’re competing against someone getting attacked 25% as much as you are. And I predict – with these new talismans – Hold rates will continue to drop – making number of attacks even more critical.

I personally feel the weight of these attack losses on rank needs to be reduced or eliminated until this bug is addressed. I’m going to continue to play – but not at the competitive level I have been. In my opinion it’s too frustrating and just not worth it. I’m with Patrice on this one.

A number of people have told me they don’t like sharing their win/loss percentages. That’s absolutely ok – but if you’d post number of times you attacked and were attacked that would be really helpful. And for those willing to share win/loss percentages, it will help to see if these talismans are indeed making a difference.

Thanks!

[Ubajoa]

My stats this week. If you notice I got exact number of attacks in offense and defense. No prisoner.

[Silentknight]

Prisoner
Attacked-403
Was Attacked-398
1 set of immunity talismans

[Sag7272]

With Prisoner..
Att-304
Def-453

[GO80sMetal]

Suspected player with glitched list:

Attacked-314
Was Attacked-106 (12% hold)

Non-Prisoner

Hold rate is terrible considering my majority of attacks against were revenges I could game-plan for. I try to never play AoP teams because I suck. But this glitch has got me Top 25 and without it, I'd probably be in the 100s. I only played so much this week because of the 300 match event.

Needless to say, I was appearing on a lot of peoples list come reset day, so I just don't know. Maybe they fixed it. Nicko confirmed I barely ever appear on his list. I tried attacking him once or twice and my team just got sent through the Nicko Buzzsaw . I'll have to go back to the LotB dojo before I try that again.

Cheers and party hard!

[Nicko]

Suspected player with glitched list:

Attacked-314
Was Attacked-106 (12% hold)

Non-Prisoner

Hold rate is terrible considering my majority of attacks against were revenges I could game-plan for. I try to never play AoP teams because I suck. But this glitch has got me Top 25 and without it, I'd probably be in the 100s. I only played so much this week because of the 300 match event.

Needless to say, I was appearing on a lot of peoples list come reset day, so I just don't know. Maybe they fixed it. Nicko confirmed I barely ever appear on his list. I tried attacking him once or twice and my team just got sent through the Nicko Buzzsaw . I'll have to go back to the LotB dojo before I try that again.

Cheers and party hard!

Hey - having the matchmaking bug work in your favor is like getting Cyborg Eddie, the Prisoner, and Rainmaker Eddie on three successive G/A souls - enjoy it! Its interesting your name started appearing the last day - were you attacking more?

And thanks for posting. We all want this game to be better and fair - it's why I posted my crazy win rate - so really appreciate it

[GO80sMetal]

Hey - having the matchmaking bug work in your favor is like getting Cyborg Eddie, the Prisoner, and Rainmaker Eddie on three successive G/A souls - enjoy it! Its interesting your name started appearing the last day - were you attacking more?

And thanks for posting. We all want this game to be better and fair - it's why I posted my crazy win rate - so really appreciate it

Yes I attacked/revenged 160 matches between Friday night and reset.

[treeb0mbb]

Hey guys I don't play PVP ever this was kinda like my first week I went try hard mode and did really well actually from building a new team a friend suggested me. I don't have that many great toons so that's kinda the main reason I didn't ever get into pvp before. But ever since I changed my team a bit at the start of the week I had my first ever amazing run.

Usually I was really bad and won 1 match then lost one but this week my attack stats were pretty good. I tried to do most of my matches because I was aiming for that 300 match reward, and boy did I win some matches I didn't even think I could win with my setup.

Anyway here's my stats and I saw some of you guys from the forums(and troopers list) on my list sometimes haha so that was cool for me to actually get this high. Didn't think I would ever get top 100 but I got it with hard work, grinding, and patience.

Btw I'm always open to any suggestions if you guys want to give me on how to better utilize my characters. Basically any advice for PVP I'll take it!




Big shoutout to gmac, Kardas, and donslauki for helping me out with making a team(I sucked at this game but after this week I kinda know how pvp works).

[Zapathusara]

Short version: (hope I did the pic right, first time)
No prisioner. Started the week with 1600~ points.
Spend something like 300~330 ironite w refills.

Btw, in game Im Ravy



Long version:

Due to the event, I set a goal of 200 attacks. Just saw the event at Wednesday, played for like 4 hours straight (was on homeoffice), cleaning all lists I get.

At Friday, I realize I could get to 300 attacks. Dudes, I regret that. Played like 5 hours, with my coworker running with me (he plays too). We both get our goals, but in a time I was so sick n tired I attacked SilentKnight for 5 times with a loner Speed of Light 3*. Just to lose fast and get the #300. Still, I reached 2500 points that night.

But as I never play at weekends, I fall. A big expected fall. Lol.

I really dont know how you guys do 400 attacks in a week. Hell, Nicko did 700+. I think I have a great attack team. 4 toons full sharded, another 6 maxed. Never drops bellow 85% attk rate. No affraid to shoot prisioners. And even with that, I cant get how such things can be done. I just dont have the guts.

Dont get me wrong, I love PvP. Im playing the game since day 1, done the Beta and all. But I think I will keep running in my way. Just get the ironite and pvp coins, thats my fun.

And I know, Im one-lucky-bastard with so low defenses. My cowork has three times with the same amount of attacks. Seens I only get revenges, and attacls from the top player when I over 1800+ points.

So, maybe one day I will retry a more competitive run. But for this week, the stress dont payed off in rewards. Lets see what the NavSouls and RNG will bring me (but 3 skill shards is a much welcome blast!).

Up the irons, until next fight!

[Silentknight]

Gee thanks! Sry I missed it