Question for Sparton or Dev

[blade685]

Hi Sparton and Dev

You said to us that we have same chance to win same class characters.
Can you explain us that:

Actually i have in my slots:

3 Rainmaker --> 0 VHeddie ( same class same level same chance??)
3 Tailgunner --> 0 Navigator ( same class same level same chance??)
3 Eda --> 0 Astra ( same class same level same chance??)
3 Corrupt General -> 0 Alliance general ( same class same level same chance??)
......

Can you give us an answer please :rolleyes:
I never saw same chance in that game since the beginning, i see that always: if you have a character you have poor chance to have the others like a filter :(

All can give us same exemple to finally move something in the game :cool:

[Liebhild]

One question: did you ever buy something in the game?

[blade685]

One question: did you ever buy something in the game?

you think no buy = bad loot mod on in 2018? :)

[MrFreeze]

Can’t be, I spent $1.99 yesterday going for this guy:). Two bucks down the drain.

[blade685]

Can’t be, I spent $1.99 yesterday going for this guy:). Two bucks down the drain.

because you must go to $50 to be in the good loot mod :cool:

[Yup]

I really doubt there's a correlation between money spent and loot. The odds merely go up the more you have. You have a higher probability of getting a new character with 20 souls than you do with 5 souls. How you get those 20 souls, I don't think matters. I think it's a shame that the events really only ever provide roughly 20 souls.... that's where the odds suck. The events, I think, should have the possibility of earning at least 50-75 souls, or even more for high-grind achievements.

Look at the current event achievements, if you complete them all you earn 20 souls.. that's it. And to get that you'll have to grind for the week....

I don't know if it's the case, but I seem to have better luck dropping 10 souls into the BOS than I do dropping 2 or 3 at a time.

For what it's worth, I had better luck with Hallowed Eddie and Iron Eddie due to sacrifices. I got Hallowed Eddie from a Legendary soul, not the event souls. I got Iron Eddie (actually 2) from Rare GA souls due to a vortex fill, not the event souls. PoM is available as a Legendary Soul and a Rare Soul as well as the event soul. (I wouldn't hold my breath for the Rare soul though.)

Disclosure.... I spent a lot, I mean a lot, of money on Alchemist souls.. I mean way more money than I should have sent... never got the Alchemist. Conversely, I merely did a monthly "Legendary Pack" purchase yesterday, which I probably would have done eventually this month anyway, and converted that to 2-10 packs of event souls (1 at a time). PoM was in that second 10 pack. So yeah.. I've crossed that $50 line but it's had no better odds at times. (assuming odds now are the same as they've been since the Hallowed Eddie/Alchemist events)

[R1ck]

For me no new Eddies since long time ago, no Hallowed, Edward, 7Son, Iron or PoM.

[MrFreeze]

For me no new Eddies since long time ago, no Hallowed, Edward, 7Son, Iron or PoM.

Same here.

[Kaz_LOTB]

I really doubt there's a correlation between money spent and loot. The odds merely go up the more you have. You have a higher probability of getting a new character with 20 souls than you do with 5 souls. How you get those 20 souls, I don't think matter.

That's correct. As stated in the loot odds page, all soul summons are independent rolls and are not influenced in any way by outside factors such as money or time spent in the game.


I think it's a shame that the events really only ever provide roughly 20 souls.... that's where the odds suck. The events, I think, should have the possibility of earning at least 50-75 souls, or even more for high-grind achievements.

You can certainly earn this amount of rare souls on a monthly basis depending on where you focus your energy (i.e. Farming Lord of Light, doing Sacrifices, investing ironite in refills, etc.). Earning that amount of event souls during a single event though (outside of maybe a high value Sacrifice event) would pretty much ruin the game economy and devalue all the regular and rare souls in the game.

-Kaz

[Yup]

I can see the "devalue" point, Kaz. Don't necessarily agree for all events, but I can see the reasoning :)

[blade685]

can you answer to my first question kaz?
Because it's always the biggest problem of that game

[Kaz_LOTB]

can you answer to my first question kaz?
Because it's always the biggest problem of that game

If you are asking why you happen to have gotten multiple instances of one character within a class and none of another, it's just an unfortunate streak. When it comes to the rarer classes, such as Assassin, there are very few natural 5 star characters you can obtain from rare Gunner / Assassin souls (I believe only 3 at the moment), so every time you happen to pull a Nat 5 for that class, there is a 1 in 3 chance you will get the same character.

If there were many more Assassins in the pol, your chances of pulling a duplicate would be lower, but your chances of getting a specific character will also fall.

We are exploring ways to allow players to work towards earning specific characters to help in situations like this (in a way that doesn't tank the economy), but it will take a while to roll out all of those features.

-Kaz

[blade685]

the problem if you saw my examples is that i have 3 or 4 Rainmaker and 0 VHeddie, 3 Corrupted general and 0 Alliance general, they have same chance to loot and i never loot them
that example work for so many characters, it can't be bad luck when so many are impossible to loot and you have tons of others.
the solution can be a script to can't loot more that 3 or 4,5 X same characters for 4* and 5* (1 to 3* are useless no need limit)
when you have 1%! chance to loot a 5* and you have many dupes of them with so many missing, it is a real problem and why many players leave the game like another old one today...
Like me i will not continue the game a long time if i don't have any good toon in 2018 :eek:
0 good toon in the year wtf lol and i need so many of them to change my team in PVP and test many options, i'm stuck

[slauki]

the problem if you saw my examples is that i have 3 or 4 Rainmaker and 0 VHeddie, 3 Corrupted general and 0 Alliance general, they have same chance to loot and i never loot them

actually the chances for that to happen are low but not impossible. you have 3 assassin 5* VHE rainmaker and ACOTD chance for 3 rainnaker are 0,33^= 3,7% (1,2% for 4 rainmakers in a row)
this is very unlucky and i like your idea of setting dupe caps. or let us just farm hard for specific chars like in other games.

in marvel strike force you can play a specific level 5 times per day which drops fragments of specific chars...so you will get em all, but it will take a ton of time...love the system, but the game economy and the environment are different there....

[MrFreeze]

We are exploring ways to allow players to work towards earning specific characters to help in situations like this (in a way that doesn't tank the economy), but it will take a while to roll out all of those features.

-Kaz

Good to hear. I hope it doesn’t take too long though. At the rate you guys are adding new characters, it’s becoming harder and harder to get a specific one.

[Patrice-1201]

I’m all for a reduction in the rate of adding new chars and a reclassification of Souls... 3 Stars should not be part of event Souls anymore

[MrFreeze]

I’m all for a reduction in the rate of adding new chars and a reclassification of Souls... 3 Stars should not be part of event Souls anymore

I agree. You guys(NF) probably think it’s too much, but I’d have to disagree. There’s enough 4-5* characters now to still make it difficult for end gamers to get what they want. And with the new characters coming, there’ll be even more. It won’t hurt new players either, I’m sure they’d love it. Hell, I see lv 50-60 players in the arena with SSE and multiple liliths already. I can’t get any of those mofos to drop for me.

[Yup]

3 Stars should not be part of event Souls anymore



Agree there... 4 and 5 star only for event souls.

[Ironstyle]

Agree there... 4 and 5 star only for event souls.

Same here, so far. I am hoarding my last 5 insanity souls (need to finish the last achievement so I can claim the last soul) before I drop 'em all in the BoS. Probably won't get much...

Also, I came across you in the Arena for the first time. Appropriately got my ass kicked...but I held my own for a few rounds!

[Rodrigo-3281]

I've been playing since the very beginning and there are still some toons that I still don't have like the Assassin Troll and every single time new toons get added I just know that I have less chances to get that one or other toons. I do wish there was a "pick your toon soul".

[blade685]

actually the chances for that to happen are low but not impossible. you have 3 assassin 5* VHE rainmaker and ACOTD chance for 3 rainnaker are 0,33^= 3,7% (1,2% for 4 rainmakers in a row)
this is very unlucky and i like your idea of setting dupe caps. or let us just farm hard for specific chars like in other games.

in marvel strike force you can play a specific level 5 times per day which drops fragments of specific chars...so you will get em all, but it will take a ton of time...love the system, but the game economy and the environment are different there....

low perhaps but not for me :)