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EnricoPalazzo
04-30-2018, 08:49 AM
I'm sure everyone who has been playing long enough has seen this, but this is one of the most severe issues with this game.
I opened my 6th trooper soul yesterday (yeah, been playing it slow on that front).
So far, the results are:
1. Trooper Eddie
2. Warlord
3. Warlord
4. Warlord
5. Warlord
6. Warlord
I know there is a tendency to get handed dupes, but this is getting ridiculous.
With 4 characters available from those souls (assuming for now that chance for all characters are equal, as stated in the book of souls info) the likelyhood for getting 5th warlords in a row is
0,25 * 0,25 * 0,25 * 0,25 * 0,25 = 0,0009765625%.
That is a likelyhood of 0,09765625 percent.
Seriously NF, you cannot tell me that there is no tampering going on with the RNG on soul drops.
If you care at all about long term players, you will need to change this. Everyday I see more and more veteran troopers dropping off because of RNG frustration. Would it really hurt you to make the drops fair?
You can always (and already do) create more toons to prevent the collectors from getting them all, but if they at least see a chance of getting the missing ones, they will keep collecting.
And yes, regarding the tooper souls, all characters can be bought with frontier coins, but is that really the idea behind the trooper souls? For me, at this point they are nothing more than a disappointment on opening and then one useless toon for sacrifice and 100 coins.
Blade
04-30-2018, 09:45 AM
Oh man! These are unbelievable bad numbers! I am really sorry for you! We all have seen "bad luck", but this is really crazy! I had to open like 10 souls (same for eternals) to get all four so you can still get them in total from the same number of souls like me. BUT to have 5 times the same character in a row is really beyond unlucky! I know, it will be hard to motivate you, but maybe try to open the souls on different days / different times, as I have noticed that the book has some good times and some bad times. But there is no real "strategy" to become "lucky". Final remark: the "good" thing is (in my opinion), that all trooper chars are not that good! I have not sharded one of these. I see some usage for the Lady and Trooper Ed can be a troublemaker in pvp in the right team. So from my perspective it is nice to have them all (I am a collector), but you don't really "miss" something without them and therefore the 100 FC are the best thing about the Troops!
We all know NF is fooling us with that, even if they don’t admit it. I‘m firmly convinced that RNG is account related. Example here (one out of many): I sacrificed blue bat in a sacrifice event last year. It was a non-dupe, but I got so many of them so far, thought I would get it easily back. I didn‘t see it for almost half a year! This sacrifice event, once I got it back, oh look, another... and another... and another... 6 so far, ofc totally random. This is just rediculous! RNG being bs anyway, nobody can believe this is random!
Btw except skill shards I got only crap out of this event. Maybe I‘ll follow Freeze and Eskiggalu, cause I’m really tired of being fooled all the time and seing NF pulling the great name of Iron Maiden in the dirt with their business practices.
EnricoPalazzo
04-30-2018, 12:59 PM
Thank you Blade,
I've played the two missing characters from my troopers, so I know that gameplay-wise, I'm not really missing out since they are rather mediocre.
It's just a collector's issue. And with the Liliths in the game, I'm a long way off from buying Bastion or Lady Whatshername with the precious frontier coins.
And GoTN, yeah, that has been my suspicion for long. Accounts are marked for certain characters to remain out of reach by tying the odds to accounts, and as I said: once you have a toon, the odds for getting the same toon as a dupe climb by a large amount.
Liebhild
04-30-2018, 01:29 PM
We have just a problem with our perception :-)
The next example of a weird coincidence ...
I mentioned it before - I got 4 or 5 Bastion in a row ...
At the last even the first 2 Legendary souls I got out of the altar -> 2 WUR ... coincidence my arse ...
The devs can tell what they want but I have no doubt the odds are rigged. There is a possibility that it's a bug or a caching issue but this is not normal.
Zerynx
05-01-2018, 08:55 PM
I hear ya. I've got the same problem with Eternity souls. I had to buy Wrath with Frontier coins. (That's why I put it in my sig.)
My first four Eternity draws were: Eddie, Belze, Eddie, Eddie.
It's crap you have to spend another in game resource to make up for the bullshit that is the RNG. Especially with "premium" souls. It honestly doens't bother me as much with regular souls, that is what it is, but man..there should be a different system for the "premium" souls. (Lilith, Trooper, Eternity, etc...)
Zerynx
05-02-2018, 10:20 PM
So last night, to complete the daily challenge I tossed a Rare Sentinel Soul into the skull. Got a Corrupt Ox Cultist. Thought to myself, "isn't that available right now from the Heroic Soul? Interesting."
About a half hour later I decide to cash in my first heroic soul. Thought, "it'd be funny if I got a Ox Cultist."
Well of course I did.
Reeb99
05-02-2018, 10:56 PM
The good thing about trooper characters are that they are high value for sacrifice. So save them up for a high end Sac during the events.
90mphyorker
05-03-2018, 01:47 AM
I don’t know why I bother with the Arena with it’s RNG, especially against the top players.
The Devs don’t want me to be able to compete against them and RNG sure as hell doesn’t either.
They have top defences, made even harder by relics and then made even harder by RNG being against you.
rags-6094
05-03-2018, 03:40 AM
I no what all of you are talking about, my situation was the same but different, On eternal souls which I have done now about ten times roughly I guess, my first was the clairvoyant then 3 x wraths in a row, beaselbub, then the rest were all wraths, I had to use coins to get Eternity Eddie.
Troopers I have done 5 or 6 times all but one were Lady Azov the other being bastion, again I had to use coins for The Trooper Eddie.
Only last night did I get Astra for the first time through the latest event.
I have complained to support about this very thing quite a few times, perhaps once you have gathered the toons you want the odds for re gathering them should get smaller?
Problem is then it will take longer to get the vortex around and the ramifications of that..
B.t.w when your getting what you want your perception changes,I suggest hanging in there and working hard to get the toons that are guaranteed when they do show up in events etc
Just trying to help...
blade685
05-07-2018, 10:33 AM
The RNG is totally ridiculous and they know that, they just don't want you have all good characters :confused:
Answer_V
05-07-2018, 02:09 PM
I opened 8 HS I got in the even and the world wonder with 7 gunner dogs I guess I'll have to steal the hatch for the abandoned dogs
sorry my language pls
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