Definitely, by all means, don't rollback

[Skuller66]

Concerning the bug that was present with the latest 'Gold and Crimson' sacrifice event, a rollback is not an option anymore, and I sincerely hope the devs think alike with me.

Indeed it is a disaster in the case of global balance among the playerbase.
Most players who live in the states and neighboring timezones benefitted insanely. (One source said to have gotten about 15 vortexes, several HUNDRED souls.)
A rollback of all accounts however would be a risky move and it wouldn't be satisfying, since a lot of time has passed since the fixing of the bug.
I suggest a way to compensate players who were unlikely to have benefitted from this bug, for example, most europeans at this time were asleep, therefore unable to even have knowledge of this little mess up in the code.

To repeat myself one last time, logic dictates that a rollback would result in a big backlash, rather than damage control.
Serious compensation is a much better way to do it, and I'm afraid no amount of Ironte would be satisfying to equal out the playingfield, since we can obviously see why such incredible amount of not only souls, but skillshards(also said by several to have gotten hundreds) can give a serious edge over others.

One way of compensation I can think of is one that could be accessible through contacting support, where the team can make sure the player contacting them is not one to have abused the bug, and these players could possibly be given a high-end pack that's offered as an IAP, e.g: The Rank 100 pack.

[Iced_Earth]

Thats a good point of view. I couldn profit from the early start of this event, but i think a rollback is the wrong way to go.

I like the idea you brought. In my opinion, a good competition will be a choice between the rank 100 or rank up 3 Pack. Another Idea could be 500 Nebu fragments/1000- 2000 Ironite. (For those who couldn benefit!)

I hope the Devs are going to tell us smth soon.

[TheAlbatross-1864]

A rollback would be cruel imho. Giving someone the excitement of the loot, letting them have enough time to try it, and then taking it away. just seems harsh.

[Nicko]

There was a bug previously where one could purchase unlimited Legendary Souls for Iron Coins. They didn’t do a rollback after that; they simply adjusted individual accounts. They flagged who had the bug and they adjusted things accordingly.

Theoretically they could do the same thing here. However - in the case of the Legendary souls it said “Limit of one” and that was exceeded so it was an obvious bug. Here there was nothing indicating this was a bug (ex “limit of one”) though we all know it was - - and that makes this a more difficult situation.

My guess? They’ll adjust or “rollback” individual accounts anyway. I don’t think they’ll ignore it and I don’t think they’ll offer other players major resources other than the typical 150-300 Ironite. They are in the business of selling resources - I can’t see them letting this stand.

And then get out your popcorn for the backlash...

[TheAlbatross-1864]

I will be heartbroken if they take my first Navigator Eddie =[

[Leano]

I will be heartbroken if they take my first Navigator Eddie =[

Same here with my Iron Eddie ):

[Sponholz]

Exploit: "make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource)."

In this case a bug.

Rollback / Ban / Adjust / Whatever the necessary evil is needed to be done here, should be done nonetheless.

I am not sorry if anyone that abused this bug (exploited) get banned / roll-backed / account adjusted / etc.

There is a ToS in the game right? and you all agree to that at some point. So...

Enough with this "players should not been penalized" crap. This was a major exploit. And you all that abused it wanna be the victims? Come-on...

I do have my issues with the game at it's current state, but I try my best to be a fair and reasonable person.

This time, I will say that the ones that abused it are the unfair ones.

[Yup]

No one "abused" anything. I made a sacrifice... a vortex fill.. and used the rewards I got. That is NOT "abusing" anything. Stop with the "abuse" and "exploit" talk. That is not the case.

You are just butt-hurt and whining because you missed out. But your story would be exactly the opposite if you didn't miss out.

[Grim]

What's happened? Did I miss something?

[Sponholz]

No one "abused" anything. I made a sacrifice... a vortex fill.. and used the rewards I got. That is NOT "abusing" anything. Stop with the "abuse" and "exploit" talk. That is not the case.

You are just butt-hurt and whining because you missed out. But your story would be exactly the opposite if you didn't miss out.

Listen boy... I am not playing this game for a long time now, I don't care about the "fair rewards".

If you did it to get several turns of sacrifice, you did abused and exploited it. Just deal with it man... if it wasn't that big of a deal the event would still be rolling with the "fair rewards" active right???

Again... Gz...

[DanteCel0623]

Exploit: "make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource)."

In this case a bug.

Rollback / Ban / Adjust / Whatever the necessary evil is needed to be done here, should be done nonetheless.

I am not sorry if anyone that abused this bug (exploited) get banned / roll-backed / account adjusted / etc.

There is a ToS in the game right? and you all agree to that at some point. So...

Enough with this "players should not been penalized" crap. This was a major exploit. And you all that abused it wanna be the victims? Come-on...

I do have my issues with the game at it's current state, but I try my best to be a fair and reasonable person.

This time, I will say that the ones that abused it are the unfair ones.

I agree with you at some point, there was a bug exploit a mass one? yes but this wasnt an obvious bug because of how the sacrifice works, the sacrifice is totally random as you might know already, i did a lvl 4 sacrifice and got a few 3 star evolution shards like 2 or 3 of them once but i did a lvl 2 and got 4 rare souls and 4 rare sentinel souls so they abused of the bug? yes but without knowing it since it wasnt obvious, they never saw the rewards and said "oh the sacrifice is glitched lets explit it" they were like "how lucky" so the correct way to deal with this might be a rollback or account adjust nothing more nothing less

[blade685]

What is exactly that bug i didn't had? many Hearts and idols in each sacrifice?

[DanteCel0623]

What is exactly that bug i didn't had? many Hearts and idols in each sacrifice?

apparently at the beginning of the event there was a bug that allowed many people to have tons of sacrifice hearts for each sacrifice so there are a few people who got many vortex fills skillshards etc so that was why my sacrifice button gone missing when i started the game yesterday, i wasnt able to even know the bug until now

[Sponholz]

I agree with you at some point, there was a bug exploit a mass one? yes but this wasnt an obvious bug because of how the sacrifice works, the sacrifice is totally random as you might know already, i did a lvl 4 sacrifice and got a few 3 star evolution shards like 2 or 3 of them once but i did a lvl 2 and got 4 rare souls and 4 rare sentinel souls so they abused of the bug? yes but without knowing it since it wasnt obvious, they never saw the rewards and said "oh the sacrifice is glitched lets explit it" they were like "how lucky" so the correct way to deal with this might be a rollback or account adjust nothing more nothing less

There is a little difference in people that just did a few sacs with all the saved characters they had, and got some rewards that are not the normal ones.

And people that abused it like having loops of sacrifices getting a lot more resources to be able to do sacs, again and again and again...

An exploit is when people abuse something, like a bug, and so, when I say that it was an exploit is directly aimed to the people that abused it. This game is live for 2 years now, everyone here knows when something is not working as intended on this type of events, just like primordial talismans last month.

I don't give a damn if people exploited or not, this is something NF will have to deal with.

I just give a damn about people that abused it knowing it was unintended to call themselves victims or having fear of being penalized.

I just want then to admit and move-on.

[blade685]

like i said in another thread:
there is only two choice for NF: give the same advantage to all players or a roll back for players that make sacrifices during the bug..... if not there is a big problem :)

[Yup]

Look, the event started and I did a level 7 and vortex fill with characters I had saved just for that.

I got hearts and idols as a reward along with typical tier 7 and vortex fill rewards (minus Alchemist frags).... I sacrificed the hearts (tier 6)... I got more hearts and Idols.. I sacrificed the hearts (tier 6) got more hearts and idols... I sacrificed the hearts (tier 6) got more hearts and idols.. I sacrificed the hearts (tier 6 + vortex) ... I got more hearts and idols.

There's no exploit. The event stated that sacrifices and vortex fills will give hearts and idols, higher tier sacrifices will give higher star hearts and idols. That's exactly what it idid.

Now if it was giving too many hearts and idols, players should not be penalized for that. The same way they didn't have their extra sets of primordial talismans "rolled back". Yeah they nerfed the talismans due to their proliferation... but there's no way to "nerf" gold (idols) and sac rewards (souls, skill shards). Answer is you don't. You realize those that missed out are upset they missed out. That, in my opinion, does not mean you penalize the players that are around at rollover.

Face it... the Arena rollover has ALWAYS benefitted those that can participate in the "Saturday rush". So should anyone who gains higher arena ranking the last hour on Saturday have their arena rewards "rolled back"?

I'd be pissed and frustrated if I missed it. I do get that completely. But..... I've missed MANY other beneficial issues others have capitalized upon. In fact, I didn't even start at rollover. I was in about 40 minutes after rollover. If I had been around at rollover I could have possible doubled what I got. So, should I bitch and complain that those who got a full hour of this are better off than me with only 20 minutes of it??

[DanteCel0623]

There is a little difference in people that just did a few sacs with all the saved characters they had, and got some rewards that are not the normal ones.

And people that abused it like having loops of sacrifices getting a lot more resources to be able to do sacs, again and again and again...

An exploit is when people abuse something, like a bug, and so, when I say that it was an exploit is directly aimed to the people that abused it. This game is live for 2 years now, everyone here knows when something is not working as intended on this type of events, just like primordial talismans last month.

I don't give a damn if people exploited or not, this is something NF will have to deal with.

I just give a damn about people that abused it knowing it was unintended to call themselves victims or having fear of being penalized.

I just want then to admit and move-on.

I already know what exactly is an exploit but like you said the game has been alive for 2 years, there are many new people who dont know how the game works and i think they are the ones who abused it, its not my case since ive been playing it since day 1 or even hour 1 so like i said a rollback or account adjust its all they can do

[Sponholz]

... Whatever ...

LOLLLLLLLLL

Just like NF would be giving a LOT of hearts for you to sacrifice forever right???

As I said before... Keep saying yourself this, if that makes you feel better.

You just described the path to exploiting the bugged event/rewards. Normal Sac (Saved Chars) > Enough Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > More Hearts > Sac > You exploiting the shit out of the bugged event/rewards.

This is amusing...

[Sponholz]

I already know what exactly is an exploit but like you said the game has been alive for 2 years, there are many new people who dont know how the game works and i think they are the ones who abused it, its not my case since ive been playing it since day 1 or even hour 1 so like i said a rollback or account adjust its all they can do

There were a lot of old-timers that abused it. You don't have to look that far for an example...

[Yup]

Again, it's not an exploit if the game is doing exactly what it was advertised to do. There was no way for me to know there was a problem. There was no malice in any of my actions. I played the game as it was presented to me. No exploitation. It was only afterwards that I saw the forum posts regarding it.

[DanteCel0623]

There were a lot of old-timers that abused it. You don't have to look that far for an example...

well i think thats out of question, old-timers abused it but the ones pissed saying dont roll back are the new ones who didnt knew it was a bug, i mean old timers already have a lot of rare chars so i dont think they are the ones saying dont rollback, so like i said the way to deal with this is a rollback or account adjust, giving advantage to all players who didnt knew about the bug and didnt used it is not the way to deal with it, like some guys want just to keep all the hundreds of skill shards and more rewards from that bug

[Sponholz]

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Resource in this case = Hearts.

LOL how naive huh Yup... No malice on countless hearts and sac loops? Nothing looked strange to you at all? Just like that? NF would be open house for everyone... come the f... on man...

Sorry I forgot you stated playing the game the day the event went live and had no clue how this events work right?

[DIEDD]

I will leave my thoughts on this:

1- if you made a sacrifice while you did not know there was a bug and you thought that NF is giving you 20 5-star hearts (with the history of previous events and if I'm not wrong, there was already an event similar to this one) you're lying to yourself, So don't be a hypocrite and admit that you took advantage of the bug, that's fine! I would have done the same

2 - I do not think that NF should rollback the accounts benefited with the bug, what they should do is give compensation to those who do not, but a real not the stingy habitual compensation of 150-300 of ironite, something that really COMPENSES the player.
Sorry for the bad English, I'm just waking up.

[Sponholz]

well i think thats out of question, old-timers abused it but the ones pissed saying dont roll back are the new ones who didnt knew it was a bug, i mean old timers already have a lot of rare chars so i dont think they are the ones saying dont rollback, so like i said the way to deal with this is a rollback or account adjust, giving advantage to all players who didnt knew about the bug and didnt used it is not the way to deal with it, like some guys want just to keep all the hundreds of skill shards and more rewards from that bug

I feel what you said, and partly agree, but this bug is the most serious they had for as long as I can remember, just go and check the price of the In-App-Purchase for just some Skill Shards (5 if I recall correctly).

And then you will see what "hundreds" of Skill Shards represents.

This not counting the amount of Rare Souls some got (G/A and/or Normal).

[DanteCel0623]

I will leave my thoughts on this:

1- if you made a sacrifice while you did not know there was a bug and you thought that NF is giving you 20 5-star hearts (with the history of previous events and if I'm not wrong, there was already an event similar to this one) you're lying to yourself, So don't be a hypocrite and admit that you took advantage of the bug, that's fine! I would have done the same

2 - I do not think that NF should rollback the accounts benefited with the bug, what they should do is give compensation to those who do not, but a real not the stingy habitual compensation of 150-300 of ironite, something that really COMPENSES the player.
Sorry for the bad English, I'm just waking up.

yes you're right maybe 2 or 3 times should look normal but tons of times? now that i think about it, it should look really weird after a few times, but what can be a good way to compensate the ones who didnt abused it? like some guys said there were people who got hundred of souls skillshards and not to mention the ironite sands of time/war etc, we dont really know how huge this advanage was, so how to give a fair advantage to the rest? give hundred of souls skill shards etc? what about those who didnt got hundred? the only fair way to deal with this is a rollback

[Sponholz]

I will leave my thoughts on this:

1- if you made a sacrifice while you did not know there was a bug and you thought that NF is giving you 20 5-star hearts (with the history of previous events and if I'm not wrong, there was already an event similar to this one) you're lying to yourself, So don't be a hypocrite and admit that you took advantage of the bug, that's fine! I would have done the same

2 - I do not think that NF should rollback the accounts benefited with the bug, what they should do is give compensation to those who do not, but a real not the stingy habitual compensation of 150-300 of ironite, something that really COMPENSES the player.
Sorry for the bad English, I'm just waking up.

Finally someone that share my point of view on this matter.

How they will damage control this it's out of my hands, rollback is a thing to consider, and even if it take to that point. After the Rollback compensation should be delivered.

I don't think that giving 300 Skill Shards to everyone that didn't abused it is the right thing to do either.

This is a HUGE issue if you ask me. Skills Shards are not the most common thing around LotB to be given like that.

[DanteCel0623]

I feel what you said, and partly agree, but this bug is the most serious they had for as long as I can remember, just go and check the price of the In-App-Purchase for just some Skill Shards (5 if I recall correctly).

And then you will see what "hundreds" of Skill Shards represents.

This not counting the amount of Rare Souls some got (G/A and/or Normal).

I already know the price of the in-app-purchase, thats why i dont use to be at the arena that much, I dont buy any of them, except one time for ironite, the lowest one gave 300 instead of 70 once, thats the only time i payed in the game but what you say is right the mass amount of skillshards souls etc its totally unfair and there isnt any ANY fair way to compensate to the players who didnt exploit that bug, so the only way like i said many times already its to rollback

[blade685]

please check your internet connection and try again......another time that server bug....

[Amarthir]

Most top guys already have a bunch of almost everybody. They'd take the top spot in Gauntlet whether or not a couple other people got 10 golden sons lmao.

[blade685]

please check your internet connection and try again......another time that server bug....

now it works again

[edsel]

A rollback would be cruel imho. Giving someone the excitement of the loot, letting them have enough time to try it, and then taking it away. just seems harsh.

Exactly like getting awesome Primordial sets, powering them up, using for a few days and then they get nerfed, yeah not cool.

[Tim28213]

It's possible they made more changes to the server and the error is the application of these changes. Just a guess, but I get the impression that they make changes on the fly frequently.

[Shaolin85london]

Most top guys already have a bunch of almost everybody. They'd take the top spot in Gauntlet whether or not a couple other people got 10 golden sons lmao.

Amarthir I think the big issue with gauntlet is the limit character on every battle. If they ll roll it out on this way, who didn't exploits the bug ll face big issue to drop and powerize eventually valuable Eddie dupes and allies, migraine that for sure won't be to who was there on sac chamber during the first 60' of event. This is what really should make people think about... Cheers.

[Askora]

I have to say the saddest and yet morbidly amusing part of this whole fiasco is it's become player against player.

NF has to be laughing their asses off. They screw up an event and most of the fight is between who benefited and who didn't.

Why not ask the real questions? Why is it they can fix an error that benefits the players in a few hours, but arena remains broken for well over a month? One breaks the game economy in their favor, the other in favor of the players.

[Askora]

Exactly like getting awesome Primordial sets, powering them up, using for a few days and then they get nerfed, yeah not cool.

You misspelled awful. Those talismans were one of the worst additions to the game. They were extremely overpowered when first released and even post nerf they remain one of the most powerful talismans in the game.

[DanteCel0623]

You misspelled awful. Those talismans were one of the worst additions to the game. They were extremely overpowered when first released and even post nerf they remain one of the most powerful talismans in the game.

wow finally someone said it, primordial sets should be nerfed again to be fair, i mean eclipse should counter the primordial, should but they dont,primordial affects all allies and all enemies, eclipse just give a shield for 1 character and immunity to 1 debuff, health reduce

[Shaolin85london]

You misspelled awful. Those talismans were one of the worst additions to the game. They were extremely overpowered when first released and even post nerf they remain one of the most powerful talismans in the game.

I do agree, plus those talismans have ruined the diversity and strategies left on defense and attack team. Gimp is everywhere now like a damn virus, awesome asset like Edward and other magus screw up because he's always the weak ring, due primordial set not leaving room for Immunity.

[rags-6094]

Has a rollback ever been conducted on LOTB before? Everyone keeps talking about it but has it ever been done?

I wouldn't get your hopes up of any fix, for or against I have been emailing them and have been stone walled, still no word from the Devs this far in surely means they just want to sweep it under the carpet...

[Askora]

They have taken back rewards before. Pretty sure that was a lot less people that benefited though, so far easier to go tweak each account. They had a bug that let people buy lots of legendary souls, but only those with huge IC stockpiles could take advantage of it. They rolled back the accounts for that.

[Yup]

Why not ask the real questions? Why is it they can fix an error that benefits the players in a few hours, but arena remains broken for well over a month? One breaks the game economy in their favor, the other in favor of the players.

And THIS is why a "rollback" does nothing but penalize players. Even if you go nothing in this particular instance.

I've contributed. I've put up with all the NF-favorable issues in every instance... now PLAYERS want to penalize me merely because they didn't get what I got. To me.. it's all a whining "I didn't get it.. take his away!"

[DanteCel0623]

And THIS is why a "rollback" does nothing but penalize players. Even if you go nothing in this particular instance.

I've contributed. I've put up with all the NF-favorable issues in every instance... now PLAYERS want to penalize me merely because they didn't get what I got. To me.. it's all a whining "I didn't get it.. take his away!"

sorry to say this dude but you keep talking about yourself and nothing less, dont you realize that there are many players with mass amounts of rewards because of that bug? sorry but please stop thinking on yourself for once and look at the whole situation here, how bad this issue really is, it just dont affect to you, it affect to everybody, people who exploited it and people who dont ok? now lets say your particular situation was totally fair, as far as i know the rewards will pop up again, if you sacrifice those chars again you will get the same rewards, im saying this because there was a "bug" where you could close the app after making a sacrifice and you will get your chars again, but if you sacrifice them again the reward will be the same so stop saying "why you want to penalize me" when we are talking about all the players who got advantage of that and not only you

[Askora]

And THIS is why a "rollback" does nothing but penalize players. Even if you go nothing in this particular instance.

I've contributed. I've put up with all the NF-favorable issues in every instance... now PLAYERS want to penalize me merely because they didn't get what I got. To me.. it's all a whining "I didn't get it.. take his away!"

I agree and that's the problem. Players attacking other players. The players aren't the problem, NF is. They prove they can fix things in a timely fashion, but only if it's to their benefit.

[Skuller66]

Just a reminder to y'all.

Stop taking this to a pitiful thread of attacking eachother.

I don't want to have others punished. I want the players who got left out to feel better about themselves.
Or in short, I want justice.
That is why I made the suggestion of Compensation instead of Punishment (Among other things).

I truly hope we may get a dev response, and I truly hope a similar concept of compensation will be realized.
I also don't wish to make devs frustrated.

[Sponholz]

And THIS is why a "rollback" does nothing but penalize players. Even if you go nothing in this particular instance.

I've contributed. I've put up with all the NF-favorable issues in every instance... now PLAYERS want to penalize me merely because they didn't get what I got. To me.. it's all a whining "I didn't get it.. take his away!"

Hope that's not aimed to me friend. cause I don't play LotB anymore, I am just saying that you (an others) did indeed exploited a bug, nothing more, nothing less, I don't care about what you got and if it will be taken away from you or not.

That as I said before is NF's issue to deal with.

Askora, I got your point.

I also don't like to debate with other players about this huge f-up from NF, but, people can't deny they plain and simple abused the bug. (aka: exploited).

That is the only thing I am still debating here.

There is no such thing as "Oh look I can loop sacrifices with all this hearts non stop and look, I got hundreds of Souls, Sands of Time, Sands of War and Skills Shards this is totally normal!!! hip-hip-hooray!!!, So much Hearts!!! NF must truly love me!!!"

[DanteCel0623]

Just a reminder to y'all.

Stop taking this to a pitiful thread of attacking eachother.

I don't want to have others punished. I want the players who got left out to feel better about themselves.
Or in short, I want justice.
That is why I made the suggestion of Compensation instead of Punishment (Among other things).

I truly hope we may get a dev response, and I truly hope a similar concept of compensation will be realized.
I also don't wish to make devs frustrated.

there is a problem with your suggestion, how can you compensate to the players who didnt took advantage of the bug? a fair way, giving hundred of skillshards ironite souls to those players? there are players who didnt got hundreds lets say they got 50 skill shards and a total of 90 souls but some others got 300 skillshards and 900 of souls, giving 300 skill and 900 souls to those who didnt took advantage will be unfair to those who took advantage but only got 50 skill and 90 souls, now you see my point? there isnt a fair way to compensate to the players who didnt took advantage, the only way i see is rollback and idk 100 ironite to those who took advantage and 300 and some others like skillshards or anything like that to those who didnt took advantage

[Yup]

sorry to say this dude but you keep talking about yourself and nothing less, don't you realize that there are many players with mass amounts of rewards because of that bug?

Not at all. If I missed it and others benefited the LAST THING I'd do is whine to NF that they should penalize those that benefited.

This isn't like anyone gained massively overpowered talismans en masse.

Sure some may have gotten characters they didn't have or the option to power up a character they did have faster. But nothing about this is "game changing" and "overly beneficial" to anyone... seriously not to ANYONE in terms of how their game play is going to alter your game play. In a week you won't be able to tell who did or did not get extras. Yeah player X managed to finally get the Prisoner or finally was able to fully skill shard Klansman Eddie. Or they have an extra 40Million Gold.... so what? How does that hurt YOUR game?? The answer is it doesn't. Not in any way.

No one's going to climb the arena to the top 50 because of this like they have with the Primordial talismans.

[Amarthir]

To be honest, it won't matter if they roll back or not, people are leaving no matter what. It's more about which decision will make less people leave. All this people lashing back and forth with each other is seriously killing my rich guy boner. It's not like I have people I want to use those skill shards on, and out of all those souls I used, the only one that I got which I actually wanted was Iron Eddie. I was hoping to get Visions Eddie but nope, he still eludes me. As for the gold, what the hell else are you gonna spend it on other than talisman and character builds? We almost never have gold events and when we do they're pretty boring events. 90% of characters are still garbage and it'll be asinine trying to level them all up since, unless you're a day 1 player, you don't have a huge booty chest of XP shards. If I played every day and only leveled up the non-dupes, it will still take months before they're battle ready.

It's like a quote from the Waterboy "they got all them teeth but no toothbrush"

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[Moonchild-6759]

Not at all. If I missed it and others benefited the LAST THING I'd do is whine to NF that they should penalize those that benefited.

This isn't like anyone gained massively overpowered talismans en masse.

Sure some may have gotten characters they didn't have or the option to power up a character they did have faster. But nothing about this is "game changing" and "overly beneficial" to anyone... seriously not to ANYONE in terms of how their game play is going to alter your game play. In a week you won't be able to tell who did or did not get extras. Yeah player X managed to finally get the Prisoner or finally was able to fully skill shard Klansman Eddie. Or they have an extra 40Million Gold.... so what? How does that hurt YOUR game?? The answer is it doesn't. Not in any way.

No one's going to climb the arena to the top 50 because of this like they have with the Primordial talismans.

It’s the new game mode mate. I know for sure that many top 100 arena players have been running with a very small roster and now they all of a sudden have all the characters and skill shards in the world. They have literally over night gone from useless in a game mode with loads of characters required to insane and in a different league.
If this isn’t gamechanging please tell me what is.

[Askora]

Hope that's not aimed to me friend. cause I don't play LotB anymore, I am just saying that you (an others) did indeed exploited a bug, nothing more, nothing less, I don't care about what you got and if it will be taken away from you or not.

That as I said before is NF's issue to deal with.

Askora, I got your point.

I also don't like to debate with other players about this huge f-up from NF, but, people can't deny they plain and simple abused the bug. (aka: exploited).

That is the only thing I am still debating here.

There is no such thing as "Oh look I can loop sacrifices with all this hearts non stop and look, I got hundreds of Souls, Sands of Time, Sands of War and Skills Shards this is totally normal!!! hip-hip-hooray!!!, So much Hearts!!! NF must truly love me!!!"

Totally agree that some people exploited it, unwittingly at first I'm sure. But, should have caught on relatively quick that something wasn't right. NF's headache and not ours at least my friend. ;) As players we should band together especially since NF seems to have no qualms at all about exploiting bugs which favor them. If it'll make the devs feel better I can give them 150 ironite as compensation. :cool:

[DanteCel0623]

Not at all. If I missed it and others benefited the LAST THING I'd do is whine to NF that they should penalize those that benefited.

This isn't like anyone gained massively overpowered talismans en masse.

Sure some may have gotten characters they didn't have or the option to power up a character they did have faster. But nothing about this is "game changing" and "overly beneficial" to anyone... seriously not to ANYONE in terms of how their game play is going to alter your game play. In a week you won't be able to tell who did or did not get extras. Yeah player X managed to finally get the Prisoner or finally was able to fully skill shard Klansman Eddie. Or they have an extra 40Million Gold.... so what? How does that hurt YOUR game?? The answer is it doesn't. Not in any way.

No one's going to climb the arena to the top 50 because of this like they have with the Primordial talismans.

well you're wrong at least half of it, play the arena with common chars example owl cultist the skulls and the first dog with the normal eddie, then play with the beast valkiries klansman eddie etc, the rare the character is, the powerfull it is, and yes the beast like the beast eddie have a chance to appean in rare g/a souls and yes you sould go and ask to NF to "penalize" them, not exactly ask that but ask them to fix the issue they created, that is what we want from them, this problem was because of their stupidity so they must fix it, i must remind you that you can buy the over power talismans with that mass amount of gold and ironite? remember the packs to buy them for 500 of ironite remeber the gold section of the store? it have to buy many stuff like xp boost and yes souls, you see now the issue?

[Yup]

If you can't remain in your arena position because someone ELSE powers up the same characters you have access to.. well...


This is akin to stating "I didn't get The Beast during the event, so everyone should have The Beast taken away. He's too powerful." I'm amazed that people don't see it this way. Again, it's not like an exclusive character, talisman, or item proliferated. It merely fast forwarded some players, that's all. Shortened 6 months of collecting and building down to 2 months (because that gold will go quick and they still need evo runes/shards to power talismans). No one got anything "special" here. They merely got resources which will evaporate quickly.

[Sponholz]

... Stuff ...

The main issue here, is that is hurts the game as a whole, you do realize that the devs don't work for free, as buggy as this game is, giving away so many "premium" items is just unbelievable.

On a sidenote if there is no "affecting anything on the game" like you said, a rollback is no big issue, since the things you all gained don't affected anything right?

It is unfair for those that not abused, cause I know people that chased and did every single event possible, months, years of commitment and didn't managed to get a Prisoner. If this game didn't had any In App Purchase I would agree with you, but the amount of resources a bug like this "rewarded" some is insanely harmful to the game itself.

This have nothing to do with the fact that you used the event and I didn't, I don't even have the primordials, please check your facts first. If anyone here still have me as a Trooper please post a screenshot showing how many days have passed since my last login on LotB.

An issue this size is harmful to game. How come you don't see this, you have a long time playing this game, I am not even playing and I can see the harm from miles away.

[Moonchild-6759]

Yup - pleas read my post again.
I said nothing about retaining my arena position - which is currently around rank 4000 as I am not able to play arena this week. I can keep it no problem but I will get but fucked by people in the upcoming game mode. That is my issue.

[Amarthir]

Yeah I'm sure the game is gonna hurt real bad because of like 30 people who earned more of that super rare premium gold that's so hard to get and even harder to save. And skill sharding all those wickermen and allied bomber boi's are gonna be what breaks the gauntlet. Remember how they said they were gonna start small and work their way to everyone? Those first few people are already going to be ahead of the rest. Who knows? They may give us the gauntlet last because we broke the event

[Sponholz]

Really Amarthir???

LOL man.. yeah too bad you can't see that... well... In all honesty? I expected nothing less from you mate (understand this was you wish, it's a long time feeling I have towards you, for the good or for the bad).

[rags-6094]

Come on guys, we're all friends on here with a common goal, keep it friendly!
The bickering gets everybody stressed and achieves nothing, let the LOTB Devs sort it out.

[Amarthir]

Really Amarthir???

LOL man.. yeah too bad you can't see that... well... In all honesty? I expected nothing less from you mate (understand this was you wish, it's a long time feeling I have towards you, for the good or for the bad).

Well I'm a dick and I like being a dick. At least I don't quit a game and then come back every other week to bother devs and players with my high horse criticisms and praise other games that have nothing to do with this one.


There you have it, Leviathan just posted the dev decisions. Since I'd rather not argue any further with you guys I'd like to move on.

Sponholz I do actually like talking to you, don't get me wrong, but debates like this really bring out the dickishness in me

[Sponholz]

You forgot: "dick and exploiter". (nothing wrong on being both tho, being a dick and an exploiter is something everyone is/was/or will be at some point in life).

I like this forums I will always return and do my high horse criticisms, there are other players that likes then. Thanks for being a fan ;O).

BTW Just sent you a PM.

[DanteCel0623]

If you can't remain in your arena position because someone ELSE powers up the same characters you have access to.. well...


This is akin to stating "I didn't get The Beast during the event, so everyone should have The Beast taken away. He's too powerful." I'm amazed that people don't see it this way. Again, it's not like an exclusive character, talisman, or item proliferated. It merely fast forwarded some players, that's all. Shortened 6 months of collecting and building down to 2 months (because that gold will go quick and they still need evo runes/shards to power talismans). No one got anything "special" here. They merely got resources which will evaporate quickly.

dude, do you even read what you write? lets start with your example, the problem is not what they got, the problem is WHY they got it, i got navigator eddie with the first nautical sould during that event and people who didnt got it, thats how it works, yes but the problem is, in this case there was a bug that allowed them to have all of that, if there wasnt any bug this post wouldnt even exist, let me repeat it again, THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT THEY GOT, THE PROBLEM IS WHY THEY GOT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE

[Amarthir]

You forgot: "dick and exploiter".

I like this forums I will always return and do my high horse criticisms, there are other players that likes then. Thanks for being a fan ;O).

Call me a dicksploiter then lol

[edsel]

So a few of us found cash on the playground, we are supposed to turn it in to the office? Break it up and give everyone an equal share? Or be happy you came up and enjoy the blessing you surely had coming.
If you want more, run the game more.

[Yup]

I'm not referring to anyone specifically Sponholz.. in any of my posts unless I quote you by name. .. just having a conversation.

All in all a rollback wouldn't really be bad for me at all. While i gained a lot of gold and skill shards.. I didn't need either very much. A rollback would not put in a bad position at all. It would really mean some of my weaker characters would need skill shards again (mummy ed, Wicker Ed, CR Ed). I didn't gain any massively powerful new characters. So, please realize I'm not really advocating to retain "my stuff". Sure I want to keep the gold and skill shards, of course, as would anyone. But even considering a rollback wouldn't really be that detrimental to my account.... I don't think it's the right thing to do. Primarily because nothing which anyone gained could possibly alter anyone else's game play. As I posted, all it did was fast forward some players. Yeah NF may have lost revenue, but taking the rewards away would be more devastating overall.

In technical terms, I doubt NF has a DB backup from 4:59pm Pacific yesterday... I mean they might, but but well, I doubt it. And I also doubt they want to individually go through every account that was logged in between 4:59 and 5:59 to see their activity and what they may or may not have gotten then go yank skill shards from characters, yank characters from players.. yank gold from accounts.... yank evo runes, yank evo stones, yank ironite, yank SOT/SOW... And what if they miss some accounts? How can I be sure they removed the rewards from EVERYONE and not merely my account?

I do understand the FOMO but really that's all it amounts to in my opinion.

Either way I think a rollback or otherwise penalizing those that were rewarded is a horrible PR move with no upside. You've got players very happy because they got a "express pass" - they'll stick around power up things and possibly spend.... and you've got players angry because they missed out they will stick around anyay.... the only way you are going to lose players.. is take away the express passes.

[DanteCel0623]

I'm not referring to anyone specifically Sponholz.. in any of my posts unless I quote you by name. .. just having a conversation.

All in all a rollback wouldn't really be bad for me at all. While i gained a lot of gold and skill shards.. I didn't need either very much. A rollback would not put in a bad position at all. It would really mean some of my weaker characters would need skill shards again (mummy ed, Wicker Ed, CR Ed). I didn't gain any massively powerful new characters. So, please realize I'm not really advocating to retain "my stuff". Sure I want to keep the gold and skill shards, of course, as would anyone. But even considering a rollback wouldn't really be that detrimental to my account.... I don't think it's the right thing to do. Primarily because nothing which anyone gained could possibly alter anyone else's game play. As I posted, all it did was fast forward some players. Yeah NF may have lost revenue, but taking the rewards away would be more devastating overall.

In technical terms, I doubt NF has a DB backup from 4:59pm Pacific yesterday... I mean they might, but but well, I doubt it. And I also doubt they want to individually go through every account that was logged in between 4:59 and 5:59 to see their activity and what they may or may not have gotten then go yank skill shards from characters, yank characters from players.. yank gold from accounts.... yank evo runes, yank evo stones, yank ironite, yank SOT/SOW... And what if they miss some accounts? How can I be sure they removed the rewards from EVERYONE and not merely my account?

I do understand the FOMO but really that's all it amounts to in my opinion.

Either way I think a rollback or otherwise penalizing those that were rewarded is a horrible PR move with no upside. You've got players very happy because they got a "express pass" - they'll stick around power up things and possibly spend.... and you've got players angry because they missed out they will stick around anyay.... the only way you are going to lose players.. is take away the express passes.

well only 1 thing u missed, you really advocated to keep ur stuff, "why they want to punish me" remember? you wasnt talking about the rest until now, and with this no matter what they do they will lose many players, if they rollback most of the players who exploited will leave, if they dont most of the players who didnt exploited will leave

[slauki]

Again, it's not an exploit if the game is doing exactly what it was advertised to do. There was no way for me to know there was a problem. There was no malice in any of my actions. I played the game as it was presented to me. No exploitation. It was only afterwards that I saw the forum posts regarding it.

sorry man if you just don't want to see an exploit that's another thing. but this is 100% of a exploit and i stopped playing too. i couldn't care less about the rewards but let's face the truth, an infinite sacrifice shouldn't look right to you, as an longterm player...what's so hard about that?

[Sponholz]

I feel you Yup, and also Amarthir, this is a really subtle topic to discuss.

And I'm not even discussing and/or demanding a rollback or anything related, as I pm'ed Amarthir about all this.

I do come from time to time high horsed or not, but always full on criticism indeed, to the forums cause even not playing the game I do care enough about it to come here from time to time.

Criticism and sarcasm and two things that I have plenty, hence the tone of some replies.

The only thing on this entire conversation is the issue about it being an Exploit or not.

It was a bug, that generated a form of abuse, which is the definition of Exploit.

If anyone took advantage of that bug, they exploited. it's that simple.

I just don't get why the hell don't say yeah looks like it was indeed an exploitable bug and move-on.

That alone is the only reason I am still here debating with you and Amarthir the Dicksploiter. (well played man, well played).

[rags-6094]

What about all the legitimate play and rewards that have continued since then, if someone happened to gain a little, gain a lot or not gain at all during the NF stuff up everything that's happened since then will be effected too if a rollback occurs..

10 minutes ago I completed a vortex and pulled Cyborg Eddie among other stuff, I don't want to lose him after 22 months playing the game...

[Sponholz]

Today is Friday, it's not Cyborg Monday.

So your Cyborg is safe mate, relax.

[Zerynx]

What about all the legitimate play and rewards that have continued since then, if someone happened to gain a little, gain a lot or not gain at all during the NF stuff up everything that's happened since then will be effected too if a rollback occurs..

10 minutes ago I completed a vortex and pulled Cyborg Eddie among other stuff, I don't want to lose him after 22 months playing the game...

In case you haven't seen it yet.

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10460-Regarding-the-July-19th-Sacrifice-Bug

Speculation over.

[kkkreg5]

At this point, it's far past the point of returning. Rolling back would be a far worse PR move than the primordial mess of last month. Judging by the official NF statement, they are moving on. It may not be fair, but who said life was fair. I participated in the first hour, I received some benefit from the "exploit" but I could not continue because I wasn't smart enough to realize what was happening. Oh well.

[Icarus]

Well, i've just played the game this morning, about 8 or 9 hours after the ''exploit'', and even reading all this stuff i've found while taking a look on the forums...
Now i feel a little bad because i didn't get to abuse the exploit, and im not even a cheater-like of person in almost all the games i've played because it feels really filthy after cheating (yes even in GTA)

Why in this then? because there is no way to compensate the people with this mess. If you abused of it there is nothing to do with it, im sure the Game will just move on because it is the devs fault.
Now if they do the rollback they will took whatever the ones that abused got, but will leave the ones that didn't do it with a little less, that could mean a lot for them (like 5* Eddies or popular/missing toons)
The difference is that most of the people that abused of it has nothing to lose if the rollback happens compared to the ones that just get cool stuff to upgrade their selection.

In my personal experience, i got some hearts and idols, like 2 or 3 per Lvl 6 Sacrifices, with the characters i saved for this event it lasted me to fill the Vortex 3 times.
I got some missing 4* characters including the Magus Rescuer that i needed to enhance my farming and good dupes to keep sacrifying, nothing so much important.

Now if i were a lvl 30-50 that just got his first 5* by sacrifiying his only 4* group, with the hope to get something good, and then a rollback happens i would be really angry.
This isn't like the Primordial talis exploit, that i've missed too, which the solution (or even planed resource) was to just nerf them because (maybe) some people abused of it and got a lot of sets.

Talking about another things as Gold and Shards is another thing that i would really like to leave in other side, because as i read, the amount is tremendous.
So far as i can see this, there is no way to compensate everyone and i think that, sadly, the game will just move on and we'll have to deal with it.
I also read that thing about an individual rollback. Looking at how the attention to the players are actually, i find it hard to be done. I even think that in a hilarius way, they can give more ironite.

Stop blaming each other for ''damn, im not guilty...i didn't abuse, it is the game''. Because what is done is done, and the unique thing we (and the devs) may think about, is if there is really a way to compensate most of the players if not everyone.

[Yup]

Today is Friday, it's not Cyborg Monday.

So your Cyborg is safe mate, relax.

He said he GOT Cyborg Ed.. so it must be clear it isn't Cyborg Monday :)

[bort]

No one "abused" anything. I made a sacrifice... a vortex fill.. and used the rewards I got. That is NOT "abusing" anything. Stop with the "abuse" and "exploit" talk. That is not the case.

You are just butt-hurt and whining because you missed out. But your story would be exactly the opposite if you didn't miss out.

Its absolutely, textbook definition of an exploit. It doesn't mean you're some ski-masked hacker messing with the code, it just means that there was something in game that the developers did not intend (whether mechanic, bug, or interaction), that benefits players who use it over those that don't.

It is 100% an exploit, and I don't chagrin you for doing it; I would have done it too.

[Sponholz]

The chances of me doing it would be damn high also!!!

[Mariner-1212]

Right or wrong, some players got a privileged exploit, some didn't - everyone seems to be forgetting that two weeks from now, some new character(s) will be introduced with double secret platinum HP and everyone you just pulled and sharded will be on the bench next to the other 300.

[Zerynx]

Right or wrong, some players got a privileged exploit, some didn't - everyone seems to be forgetting that two weeks from now, some new character(s) will be introduced with double secret platinum HP and everyone you just pulled and sharded will be on the bench next to the other 300.

This is the most perspicacious thing I've read on this matter today. Well done sir!

[bort]

Right or wrong, some players got a privileged exploit, some didn't - everyone seems to be forgetting that two weeks from now, some new character(s) will be introduced with double secret platinum HP and everyone you just pulled and sharded will be on the bench next to the other 300.

My money is that it will be a powerslave god in a sac event, and the people that hit that exploit will have a huge advantage.

[Kamuz24z]

Not at all. If I missed it and others benefited the LAST THING I'd do is whine to NF that they should penalize those that benefited.

This isn't like anyone gained massively overpowered talismans en masse.

Sure some may have gotten characters they didn't have or the option to power up a character they did have faster. But nothing about this is "game changing" and "overly beneficial" to anyone... seriously not to ANYONE in terms of how their game play is going to alter your game play. In a week you won't be able to tell who did or did not get extras. Yeah player X managed to finally get the Prisoner or finally was able to fully skill shard Klansman Eddie. Or they have an extra 40Million Gold.... so what? How does that hurt YOUR game?? The answer is it doesn't. Not in any way.

No one's going to climb the arena to the top 50 because of this like they have with the Primordial talismans.

You are kind of right about that a huge amount of gold, stock piles of souls, hundreds of skill shards won’t help you to take Eternal any time you want but gauntlet is coming and if all those resources give you an advantage over the rest of the players then that’s not right, you whine about the guys with huge amount of relics because those teams are giving you a hard time in the arena we earned those coins that was not a bug but you still whine about it or when you got a sneak peek of gauntlet and you got to see Alexander Eddie was part of the rewards you whine about it as well just because you spent 100$ for one useless toon and now you are calling these guys whiners ??, I’ve been playing this game for a while i don’t need more toons not even relics to me you just play the game to collect all the characters and nothing more

[Yup]

Gauntlet, gauntlet, gauntlet... yeah it's coming.. so is Night City and Silent Planet... I don't tend to live my life in the "what might come" genre. All the speculation about the gauntlet will most likely amount to shit once it's actually released.

[Zugzwang]

I made sacrifices and got some hearts and idols which allowed me to sacrifice them but there was never anything even close to a loop for me. I got like two tier 3 sacs from the hearts which is like a meager sacrifice or something. Didn’t seem like a bug all to me. Never crossed my mind until I see this.

Now I see some people got loops and vortex fills. Good! I’d be pretty happy about that if I got it, but since I didn’t — other people getting it doesn’t directly affect me at all. There are always people who’ve played longer and have better toons anyway. What does it matter which ones they are? I like the grinding and playing anyway. Otherwise what’s the point of playing if you had everything already? Game wouldn’t be fun anymore.

[Stormseye]

I would trade any number of characters/souls and gold for 1 set of Primordials. No amount of gains from this bugged event will help in the only aspect of this game that I really enjoy. Lots of speculation about the Guantlet and those that have tons of characters but we have no real idea how it will work. What we do know is that Primordials changed the entire PVP playing field while the recent event has changed nothing in terms of the current Arena. Unless the August tuning does some major overhauls to old characters I doubt we will be seeing Viking Eddie, Shaman Eddie, Eda or Magus Undead Rescuer in the top 100. Coincidentally those where the only new characters I received, I had everything else.

[Shaolin85london]

What is done is done, however stacks of different hundreds of rare g/a and regular class in the bos, means countless future sacrifcices and an huge advantage to pull out new exclusive toons coming down the pipe (doomsday Eddie inc.) people who were sleeping missing the party don't have this important huge reserve and once again need to work hard his ars to pull anything new ll be added to the bos. To do not mention ss that represents the rarest thing in the whole game.

[edsel]

[QUOTE=Stormseye;78147]I would trade any number of characters/souls and gold for 1 set of Primordials.

I am your trooper and have 2 spare that I will never use, can these be switched to your account? Can someone else who has an extra one donate so you get a set that you really should have, we come together as a community to help each other and if the devs can swap holy smoke eddie for another three star because he got shit canned they can surely delete these two from my account and give 2 u

[Stormseye]

Edsel clear your in box, PM sent

[Symbiote]

It is a fact, that it's really unfair for all the Player who didn't get the advantage of this bug..,
All the players.., and i mean ALL of us get bugs over bugs.., i mean, if i had the time, because i was on a festival! Real Life things y'know..,
And if i have had the time, i had used it too, why not, they give us more and more bugs over and over.., and things like this what happend over hundreds of souls for the player who had the "Chance".., but for all the others it is REALLY unfair..,
But i'm not angry on the players who had the chance, THIS is NFs thing.., and this is REAL BIG SHIT..,
But inside i am laughing about this.., and i'm not that angry, that i didn't get the "chance" but it unfair, it's a fact. ^^

And for all of this.., NF only gives EXCUSES!
EVERY FUCKING TIME.., and WE sit here.., and take what we get.. that's all..

Edit: And i think, for all of them who used this bug, it isn't their fault, it is NF.., everyone who could have the chance would have used it.., i really believe this.., because.., WHY NOT.., this GAME is often that unfair for all of us (very often because of bugs, and NF don't care, and only give excuses), why are all of us so much complaining everytime?
But i think on the other side everyone who KNOWS this game should understand, especially because of THIS all of us should find it unfair even if you are the lucky one who got the chance for this.
It is only a game, yeah, but WE are the Community here, and all of us get the same shit over and over..

[Symbiote]

What is done is done, however stacks of different hundreds of rare g/a and regular class in the bos, means countless future sacrifcices and an huge advantage to pull out new exclusive toons coming down the pipe (doomsday Eddie inc.) people who were sleeping missing the party don't have this important huge reserve and once again need to work hard his ars to pull anything new ll be added to the bos. To do not mention ss that represents the rarest thing in the whole game.

And this nailed it.., this whole thing needs a FIX for all the players, that it's not that big shit as it is now..

[Zugzwang]

For everyone who did not benefit from the bug (myself included) — look at the bigger picture. Having more powers and more relics, talismans whatever—having them given to you due to a bug (which I know isn’t the exact case here) doesn’t add to the overall enjoyment of the game (for me anyway). The whole point of playing for me is to have fun and I find it more fun when I DON’T get every new Eddie or every new talisman etc.

I wanted beast Eddie pretty badly but I never got one. What I did get were both Gemini toons which I ended up sacrificing because they were so bad. Like someone else said, there are always new things coming out which make the old things either weak or just boring to play. So whatever benefit the bug gave some players is temporary. Getting a few vortex fills may seem great but it will make the next ones that have to be earned normally that much harder to wait for.

Everything evens out in the end and there will always be players that have more than you or I do. If I were a millionaire and paid money for every possible purchase I could every time I could and I had the best of everything I could, would I enjoy the game as much? The answer is definitely no. The day I earn everything and there is nothing new to go for, vortex fills don’t matter anymore is the day I find another game to play.

[Ip4]

i am not lucky winner with bug event but i am happy coz players that didn't sleep that night will never and no more investing money in this game :)

[Zugzwang]

The bug wasn’t that benificial haha. Maybe worth about $50-$100 max I’m assuming.

[Blade]

This here is from a facebook post, not mine. I don't know what the player sacrificed, but make your own conclusions, if this is "a bug" or not. As the sacrifice button disappeared all of a sudden, this means that there was a kind of a panic attack in the NF headquater. A deserved one. I still think that this should have had more consequences by resetting the respective accounts very quickly. Maybe the way would have been to set the game in maintenance mode instead of removing the sacrifice button (and leaving the backdoor via the event menu open), to find a fair solution. Now it is too late. There would be the option to reward all accounts that were not online during the glitch hour (verified), but it seems like this won't happen. I found peace now after some days and the good results I got anyway from the event. But still I think we all will remember this one.

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[rags-6094]

It should be said that when the sacrifice button was removed, people (myself included) who used the back door did not benefit from the bug. That occurred earlier in the day, by the time the sac button was taken away so was any giant drops.

In fact support had to pay me back Alchemist shards and gold and crimson drops I had been entitled to that never dropped.
THANKYOU MICHELLE from the SUPPORT TEAM for this.

Anyway most of us lost out due to work commitments, sleep, real life goings on etc, what we need to do now perhaps is just move on. All the extra goodies gained by the few lucky ones won't have as greater impact as you all think, you're greatness in the arena or the coming gauntlet will be more related to judgement of which toon, which move to use, persistence, experience and plain old hard work, that's how the best of the best are there now and it's not likely to change much in the coming days.
It's more exciting when you pull an awesome toon after months of nothing and a lotta hard work, knowing that you truly deserve it!

[Shaolin85london]

It should be said that when the sacrifice button was removed, people (myself included) who used the back door did not benefit from the bug. That occurred earlier in the day, by the time the sac button was taken away so was any giant drops.

In fact support had to pay me back Alchemist shards and gold and crimson drops I had been entitled to that never dropped.
THANKYOU MICHELLE from the SUPPORT TEAM for this.

Anyway most of us lost out due to work commitments, sleep, real life goings on etc, what we need to do now perhaps is just move on. All the extra goodies gained by the few lucky ones won't have as greater impact as you all think, you're greatness in the arena or the coming gauntlet will be more related to judgement of which toon, which move to use, persistence, experience and plain old hard work, that's how the best of the best are there now and it's not likely to change much in the coming days.
It's more exciting when you pull an awesome toon after months of nothing and a lotta hard work, knowing that you truly deserve it!

Fully agree with this. Gauntlet ll be a challenge, that is established, however strategies, experience and reliqs ll help to go through it. So, arena again is the real workout every experience player need to do. Cheers.

[blade685]

end of story no compensations for players that don't leave in the good country? :mad:

[Yup]

While yesterday.... the "game" was down for over 4 hours while Europeans slept. So......

[blade685]

While yesterday.... the "game" was down for over 4 hours while Europeans slept. So......

and? :)
You compare that with the mega bonus party? some sand of times and war perhaps lost vs sacrifice party? ^^
There is nothing to win during that shutdown

[Yup]

The reality is.. the event is still live. The ONLY difference is for an hour sacrifices were giving 3-4 extra hearts and idols. Since they've fixed it I've STILL picked up nearly 100 Skill Shards and a few dozen souls. So... the the "fear of missing out" is far more a factor than what was actually rewarded.

[blade685]

it is not that we saw in screen shots, it was a big advantage for many players.
For you i don't know
I did only 4 or 5 level 6 and 1 or 2 level 7
And that give me for level 6 always: 1 legendary and 4-6 rare souls = shit
for level 7 same with 5-10 skill shards
and practically only on full wheel done 2 or 3 hearts and golden = bad sacrifice event for me
So i think they ll change nothing, it is so easy to do nothing :)

[bort]

The reality is.. the event is still live. The ONLY difference is for an hour sacrifices were giving 3-4 extra hearts and idols. Since they've fixed it I've STILL picked up nearly 100 Skill Shards and a few dozen souls. So... the the "fear of missing out" is far more a factor than what was actually rewarded.

Thats not even remotely fucking true. I threw most of my stuff into the pit and made two whole fills. I did not get even remotely enough from the rewards to continue cycling. If you look earlier in the event thread, people from this board are suggesting it might be a bug because the rewards were bonkers. They were gaining more sac characters than they were using, along with 10's of millions of gold to ensure they had enough to open the stacks of souls they got.

[blade685]

Thats not even remotely fucking true. I threw most of my stuff into the pit and made two whole fills. I did not get even remotely enough from the rewards to continue cycling. If you look earlier in the event thread, people from this board are suggesting it might be a bug because the rewards were bonkers. They were gaining more sac characters than they were using, along with 10's of millions of gold to ensure they had enough to open the stacks of souls they got.

i saw same things....

[edsel]

This event gave extra loot when first launched, one before that also dishing out piles of Primordials to the first few customers. Being awake and participating in the event when it starts seems to be worthwhile lately.

[blade685]

This event gave extra loot when first launched, one before that also dishing out piles of Primordials to the first few customers. Being awake and participating in the event when it starts seems to be worthwhile lately.

and always at the beginning when european people sleep :(
Iron maiden is an european band not american, why we have the reset at the worst time :)

[Shaolin85london]

and always at the beginning when european people sleep :(
Iron maiden is an european band not american, why we have the reset at the worst time :)

So true. Apparently the reason is because NF headquarters is in Canada. They should move the hq to London, native IM homeland.

[blade685]

So true. Apparently the reason is because NF headquarters is in Canada. They should move the hq to London, native IM homeland.

+1000000 :)

[Zerynx]

LOL - the daily reset is 00:00 GMT.

...not that I don't want a conspiracy or anything, but that's the truth.

[xxxphantomfreakxxx]

Thats not even remotely fucking true. I threw most of my stuff into the pit and made two whole fills. I did not get even remotely enough from the rewards to continue cycling. If you look earlier in the event thread, people from this board are suggesting it might be a bug because the rewards were bonkers. They were gaining more sac characters than they were using, along with 10's of millions of gold to ensure they had enough to open the stacks of souls they got.



How it went down was this...you had to enter the chamber through the Event Tab and NOT the sacrifice tab on your My Team.
And it wasn't anything like it would give you a few extra Hearts & Idols
NO it was throwing out so many Hearts, Idols, Skill Shards, Rare Souls to the point peoples game was locking up because they couldn't fit anything else into their inventory...once they caught onto what was happening they shut the event down and fixed it.
After words those players went to cashing in all those souls in the Book of Souls, back to sacrificing off what they didn't want to keep, selling off all those Idols, filling up the Vortex and walked away with anywhere from 200 to 500 Skills Shards, 300 to 500 million gold, and damn near one of every 4 to 5 star character on the game...

Now here is my big question...an so far they won't answer...Just what is going to be done to make it fair to all players across the board ?
A roll back ?...Undo all those insanely huge rewards ?
Do something big in return to all us players that didn't get jack shit ?....I haven't gotten a single heart or idol since the event started....not even a one star ! And I've done a lot 1,2,3 and couple 5 tier sacrifices since the event started.....nothing....not a thing !

As much as a huge mess this month as been, bugs, glitches, game being down 6 and half hours (Depending on your time zone..and if your Android or Apple) while pushing an update for a character and feature that isn't even going to be released yet..they need to finally tell everyone what if anything is going to be done to make it ALL completely fair to ALL players....

Hell...normally when pushing updates that take that long for both Android and Apple users they give out redeem codes for 150 to 300 Ironite....this time around NOTHING !

[scott-5496]

We are not in GMT at the moment in UK we are in BST (British Summer Time) so it is GMT plus 1 hour or 1 am which is pretty late if you work or have kids - that is the truth I believe.

[Blade]

In Germany the reset is at 2 o'clock at night. So normally you are not awake at the reset, especially during the week. This also means you will see some 5-8 hours later here in the forum what was going on. This also means you cannot load up hundres of SoT during fragment events in LoL "over night", which seems to be a normal thing for players from other time zones. This is a disadvantage, for sure. I don't want to complain too much, but I guess for some hardcore players this is really is a problem. Apart from that, all these issues would not be that big thing, if the events would not start as bugged as it was recently :)

[waymo]

I think it's a big disadvantage if your playing in the pvp trying to stay in the top 100 before reset. I have to stay awake on a saturday night to 1am if I want to do it but my friend in Los Angeles is doing it at 5pm local time. so it's very easy for him

[Knut-3112]

So a few weeks have passed since that clusterfuck of an event and nothing has been done about it. No rollback, no compensation either. Now a new game mode is being rolled out where it seems it's mandatory to have multiple characters of the same type and a ton of skill shards as well. Exactly the things some players got due to the bug early in this event. If this game was single player only in nature, I wouldn't care. But it's also got the PVP side and that's where the disadvantage hurts the most, especially in the new mode.
Meanwhile, every time I log in, some ridiculously priced shitpacks are thrown at me aggressively. Okay, I saw them already, I know they exist. You don't have to show me this crap every time. And you know what? There's no way in hell I'm gonna buy any of it. I'd rather wait for another bugged event. The rewards seem to be infinitely superior than any packs can ever give. And it doesn't cost a dime. You just have to stay awake in the middle of the night if you're European.
The event itself was actually pretty good, combined with the 2x pull chance. I was lucky to pull 3 new Eddies I didn't have and also some supporting characters. And this was all after the bug was fixed. I can only imagine what loot one could get taking advantage of it.
But, it seems that no one cares about it anymore. Certainly not the NF team. Yeah, let's pretend nothing happened and move on.

[blade685]

I think it's a big disadvantage if your playing in the pvp trying to stay in the top 100 before reset. I have to stay awake on a saturday night to 1am if I want to do it but my friend in Los Angeles is doing it at 5pm local time. so it's very easy for him

that's true but NF don't care of that :)