The Gauntlet - BETA DETAILS

[kkkreg5]

Well, that was anticlimactic.

500 Ironite gone in the blink of an eye. What did I get for that? About 60 minutes of fun. Now that I’m stuck because I don’t have 138 Warrior Eddies, (and I’m out of ironite), I get to wait over a week(?) to try it again? Ya, color me disappointed and bored to death. Potential? Oh ya, this could’ve been WAY fun, but alas, it’s just BNW in a different mask - at 5x the price. What a shame.

Schmeb, out.

Yep! Another over priced mode like BMW...

[Alvorada]

A bug just happend on gauntlet:

I have 2 toons alive (cotd and samurai eddie), make a move with samurai eddie (fury) and could not use my ally.

There is none harmfull effects in anyone of my team.

Enemy asset survive with so few hp that for sure my Cotd warrior will finish her and trigger an extra turn to atack the enemy eddie.

The enemy team atack 3 times each (asset and ciborg eddie), none of then had ecco status or talisman.

Ciborg eddie use 3 diferent moves and he haven't 3 moves with extra turn chance.

Still have 2 eddies magus/warrior, but I can't go foward without decent allies so, end of gauntlet this season.

[Rain88]

Actually the Gauntlet is a great way to get IC if you don't like PvP. But the return on IC from the Gauntlet is a bit of a "bait and switch". It's worth it for the first couple levels F-D perhaps. Then the SOW/IC ratio is much worse than PvP, especially if you are getting the 12-13-15 IC per win in PvP.

"bait and switch"? It's worth it for levels F-D? So basically gauntlet starts with 6 iron coins /sow on level F to 4.5/sow (9ic/2sow) to 4/sow (12ic/3sow), to 4/sow (16ic/5sow)... The least you can get from arena is 10/sow (hell even make it 8/sow).

So basically you're saying that 6>10... makes perfect sense.

[Yup]

If you dislike PvP and want relatively easy battles then yes it makes sense.

Realize I', really not playing the Gauntlet because it's not worth it. I know full well it's jsut a resource sucker with very little payout overall. But.. if you'd prefer talismans or shards, or fragments, in addition to a little less IC, then yes the Gauntlet may be more valuable to some.

I mean, it's not like you get Hero fragments or talismans from the arena (at least not without some event).

[druid138]

If you dislike PvP and want relatively easy battles then yes it makes sense.

Realize I', really not playing the Gauntlet because it's not worth it. I know full well it's jsut a resource sucker with very little payout overall. But.. if you'd prefer talismans or shards, or fragments, in addition to a little less IC, then yes the Gauntlet may be more valuable to some.

I mean, it's not like you get Hero fragments or talismans from the arena (at least not without some event).

Keep in mind that we're still in Beta. Rewards will definitely be changing when the Beta period ends. It's possible that SoW costs will change as well.

See the post here (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1520859204711116&substory_index=0&id=814574058672971&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1520859204711116%3Atl_objid .1520859204711116%3Athrowback_story_fbid.152085920 4711116%3Apage_id.814574058672971%3Aphoto_id.15208 59204711116%3Apage_insights.%7B%22814574058672971% 22%3A%7B%22role%22%3A1%2C%22page_id%22%3A814574058 672971%2C%22post_context%22%3A%7B%22story_fbid%22% 3A1520859204711116%2C%22publish_time%22%3A15337531 18%2C%22story_name%22%3A%22EntPhotoNodeBasedEdgeSt ory%22%2C%22object_fbtype%22%3A22%7D%2C%22actor_id %22%3A814574058672971%2C%22psn%22%3A%22EntPhotoNod eBasedEdgeStory%22%2C%22sl%22%3A4%2C%22dm%22%3A%7B %22isShare%22%3A0%2C%22originalPostOwnerID%22%3A0% 7D%2C%22targets%22%3A%5B%7B%22page_id%22%3A8145740 58672971%2C%22actor_id%22%3A814574058672971%2C%22r ole%22%3A1%2C%22post_id%22%3A1520859204711116%2C%2 2share_id%22%3A0%7D%5D%7D%7D&__tn__=%2As%2As-R), for instance.

[druid138]

As a side note, Gauntlet will be an awesome way to quickly burn through the dozens or hundreds of SoW we get from burning through our stacks of regular souls during Sacrifice events.

[Kamuz24z]

Devs some suggestions when playing gauntlet sometimes I forgot what type of talismans I have on a character so I have to go back to my team once I finish swapping talismans go back to gauntlet and I have to do the process of selecting the characters again is there a way that you can implement icons to see what talismans are currently on the character and save the team if you go out gauntlet and also add an icon to go to directly my team we can save a lot of time and make gauntlet more enjoyable.
And one more thing I didn’t know that gauntlet reset will be every 14 days so we are getting 288 free sow in those 14 days plus the ones from daily challenge we need 448 sow to clear the highest floor to be honest is not that expensive as I thought the only thing that will make it much better is a new currency, IC is not as good as Arena but arena don’t give you FC and Heroic souls fragments and for the top 9 a mythical soul not bad in my opinion so far I’m enjoying it.

[rags-6094]

I was finally introduced to gauntlet this morning, I managed to get right through to AA without a loss and expecting a slightly harder time in AAA but not too concerned with the first quest I placed a minor warrior team in and got my ass handed to me... my first loss.
Tried again with a mega warrior team - they started, they took out my Lillith first, great now I'm stuffed, I took out 3 of their team mainly thanks to my Sekhmet, just Clair left, she gets fury and brings the whole team back and my ass was grass after that...
I started my third attempt, placed a reasonable team together but took on No.2 instead, 2 x sentinels in the team...
My work phone rings and I get side tracked, I return to the game - whole team dead and nothing skill sharded that could compete to have another crack... so what to do? Walk away I guess 24 sow wasted, I have not made up my mind on whether or not I even care for gauntlet, a bit dejected about spending all that ironite but I'll get over it.

Waiting such a long time before giving it another crack is ridiculous, maybe locked out for 24 hours but anything longer and I think I'll not bother again.. I am well aware the finalised reward system is not there yet but the rewards for my time and essentially money will have to be better than what's on offer now before I'll be back..

[Blade]

As a side note, Gauntlet will be an awesome way to quickly burn through the dozens or hundreds of SoW we get from burning through our stacks of regular souls during Sacrifice events.

Good thought! We will see how this works in the end of August. Problem is, that you cannot really plan with the sacrifice rewards. The day before yesterday I opened one 99 stack of regular souls. Sacrificing them all gave me 26 SoW. I thought: Great! Maybe they have increased the SoW drops because of the Gauntlet? The next 4 stacks of 99 regular souls yesterday gave 2 SoW in total! But of course, better chances are given during sacrifice events, if the reward distribution system makes it reasonable to open many stacks of regular souls. The last sacrifice event was not good in these terms, as low level sacs could only gave you 1* hearts or idols. I hope we will see something like the pumpkin slaughter soon again :)

[Inishmore]

I already was skeptical when I saw that they extended the duration of a Gauntlet round, but now I definitely think it’s a bad idea. Players with a small rooster will run into a wall after C or B. They will have to wait for 10 days without being able to play. Same goes for morons like me that screw up two battles and lose a third one due to a crash. So now I am stuck at AA and can do nothing but wait.

I understand why they extended the time, like this you have to buy less SoW. But I think that is a fallacy. In certain levels you see the other teams and you make a plan, with which teams to go agains which. Most players will not make that in writing, but in their head and I doubt you will stick to that plan over a period of 3-4 days, so you will be making the job several times. I prefer to go through those levels in one go.

Therefore I think it is mandatory to lower the SoW costs, and reduce the time of one round again to 5 days. If they want us to burn SoW wouldn’t paying Sow to revive a team be an option? Like this you could play relatively cheap as long as you don’t burn all your teams. Once you’ve done that it is up to you to decide to pay to win or to stay at the level you are.

[thealchemist]

It's an interesting mode. I got to Tier A in the first installment. Right now I am at Tier C and wondering if it's even worth attempting more battles based on current awards. As I started before the change in rewards I am still showing as having a Fate talisman reward which would complete a set that I got from the previous installment at least. If I go after the next lot of grades how likely am I to get a full set of Necropolis talismans? I'm not that confident. When will be the next opportunity to get more necropolis talismans, or will there even be an opportunity? I already have enough 1 and 2 of various rare talismans just sitting in my inventory from previous events which I can't effectively use, so I dont need more. At least the Fate talismans could be bought in the arena store if you didn't manage to get a reward of a complete set. If I knew for sure Necropolis talismans could be earned again some time in the future I might be tempted but right now I'm putting it off. So unless one of the Devs can give me an answer on if necropolis talismans will ever be available again I think I am done until the next reset. But I have been more of a casual player anyway...

Also like others have mentioned, an ability to go to your team screen directly from Gauntlet would be a cool idea. I would also like to see something to make it easier to find or sort through the toons you are looking for. I was thinking of a button that could give you the ability to select any toons in your team as a "fav" (much like selecting your champion), which would then show first in your team screen before your other toons, with Eddies getting priority like it is now. Or maybe an icon would show like the locked icon does, either way...To me being able to choose a "fav" would mean those toons would be the ones fully sharded and with maxed talismans, which I am having to remove talismans from for Gauntlet battles. So having to go back and worth is a bit painstaking at the moment. Having over 200 toons including various dupes, most at level 100, if can make it hard to find the toon you are after, I often find myself scrolling past the toon I want. So a way to speed up the process would be good. I think something like this could improve general game play in all the other modes too. But thats just my opinion.

[DrEddie]

Now that I'm on my second round of being in heres my thoughts.

I'm really enjoying it. I can't remember the last time I actually played the game and didn't just run autoplay for rewards. I made it to A on my first round and I'm up to B this time. I agree the sands of time are steep but with a 2 week reset it isn't bad. I understand it's a shiny new toy and I want to play but taking my time and just using the free SOW is working.

The one change I'd like is characters should only be locked out after a win. I have no interest in trying to get and level up duplicates.

I've been playing since the day the game was released so I have most of the characters and I'm really enjoying pulling out ones I never use and finding a place for them in a team. I still need loads of skill shards and there is no way I'm going to put them on dups. Also the best way to get skill shards is sacrifice but I won't get any if I can't do high level sacrifices with my dups.

[Muzzleloader]

For a free to play participant, the only reason for to play gauntlet is to burn SoW I dont use in the arena. No reason now to waste SoW against opponents you probably won't win against in the arena. The 2 week cycle will allow me to get to level C or D easily without buying any SoW. I will save my ironite for events such as the frag event currently available.

[Deathbat6120]

So I spent some time properly trying out the beta today, and honestly, after I got used to it, I found that I quite like it. It's a fun challenge that makes you think and encourages you to use toons that you wouldn't normally use. I've currently made it up to C, hoping to progress a bit further once I level up some talismans a bit. As someone who doesn't really play in Arena unless there's an event, I think it's a good way to use all my saved up SOW, though the price does get quite steep very quickly.

As people have pointed out, there still is some tuning that needs to be done, and I think being able to regain characters after 24-48 hours could be a helpful feature, but otherwise it's a fun mode to play, and not just another one of those modes where you auto-play the whole time.

[PerthEddie]

Actually the Gauntlet is a great way to get IC if you don't like PvP.

This!!! I don’t like Arena at all. I think I lack certain “essential” characters to be able to climb to the top 50 or so. Also, due to reset time, if I ever was in a position to go for top spots I would have to get up really early on a Sunday morning and I am not doing that for ANY game. I love Gauntlet though. I like the fact that it isn’t a sprint and we have 2 weeks to take our time and work up slowly. I also like that you can progress without the essential characters I mentioned previously. I will never be able to go for God or even the really high levels. Probably AA could be my limit for now but I am OK with that as, taking this week for example, I would get a set of rare talismans. I will be honest, a couple of weeks ago I was close to deleting the game and saying goodbye but Gauntlet has rekindled my interest. I have now become a daily player again following 7 months of casual play so will be looking for Troopers again :)

[Moonchild-6759]

I am now done with my progress in Gauntlet for this season as well. I honestly believe it is a really good idea that it runs for so long. I got stuck at AAA (Like last week, i lack Alex and Clansman so gg) due to it being all warrior again. I certainly do hope it will change up when it hits live but the work that has been put into this makes me certain it will.

I have hardly encountered any bugs appart from the usual that has been reported several times. I do however find it somewhat odd/unfair that i at AAA have two teams with Magus Lilith (Destiny), Prisoner (Primordals), Ass Lilith (Eternity - new green set) and their Doomsday eddie or Beast eddie with fate or likewise.
My point is that when one is limited to a single class being up against not 1 but 2 teams that would easily go top 100 perhaps event 50 in the arena is a huge challenge and possibly too much at grade AAA. That being said i managed to beat 1 of them but ran out of usefull eddies (not allies) at the second. So i quess it is fine if i just get lucky with 1-2 new warrior eddies. And i would always prefer a challenge that i get stuck at than having Gauntlet nerfed hard so that everyone can get to SSS and it will just be a matter of not loosing.

But really great job here NF.

[Shaolin85london]

Devs yet back to ask you to review the enemies team strike at sss grade. Just got anhiliated from one of those impossible golden buff team wall! There is no valid strategy when you face those without toons left that can wear primordial, valor and eternal. Two things: lower the difficult or add more toons with free slot for talisman. Is ridiculous I can't put immunity and resistance on my acr only because she got two mandatory green :/ this is just an exempla of many.

[Kaz_LOTB]

Devs yet back to ask you to review the enemies team strike at sss grade. Just got anhiliated from one of those impossible golden buff team wall! There is no valid strategy when you face those without toons left that can wear primordial, valor and eternal. Two things: lower the difficult or add more toons with free slot for talisman. Is ridiculous I can't put immunity and resistance on my acr only because she got two mandatory green :/ this is just an exempla of many.

We will be continuing to look at difficulty tuning and also potentially opponent list filtering of certain talismans and characters for certain grades as the beta continues, but it's still early days and there's a lot more data and adaptation from the player base still yet to come.

We'll keep the forums posted on beta updates and tuning changes as we release them.

-Kaz

[Fudjo]

I like that it's hard.

I like that I can't be lazy and just blow Ironite to get past an obstacle.

I like that if I lose, then, well, I lose.

I like that there are tiers I can't beat because I don't have the toons and/or talismans to get past them. It gives me something to plan and build towards.

I'm likely stuck at tier AAA for a while because I don't have a Clansman Eddie or enough other duplicate red Eddies and toons built up enough. I'm fine with that.

I like that if I reach tier AAA I get a full set of talismans. I like that I can spend zero Ironite to get that far.

[Ancient Mariner]

I like that it's hard.

I like that I can't be lazy and just blow Ironite to get past an obstacle.

I like that if I lose, then, well, I lose.

I like that there are tiers I can't beat because I don't have the toons and/or talismans to get past them. It gives me something to plan and build towards.

I'm likely stuck at tier AAA for a while because I don't have a Clansman Eddie or enough other duplicate red Eddies and toons built up enough. I'm fine with that.

I like that if I reach tier AAA I get a full set of talismans. I like that I can spend zero Ironite to get that far.

Well said.
People usually don't like to get out of their comfort zone, yet that's what makes the game spicy and not boring.

I would just add any feature which could provide a little help to those who are stuck at a certain level, just to give a little hope to overcome an obstacle and avoid being forced to wait until the next reset to play Gauntlet again.

It could be anything, something like for example to let people buy for a certain amount of ironite the chance to use once again one toon you already used (with a limit of one per day/week).

[Moonchild-6759]

I like that it's hard.

I like that I can't be lazy and just blow Ironite to get past an obstacle.

I like that if I lose, then, well, I lose.

I like that there are tiers I can't beat because I don't have the toons and/or talismans to get past them. It gives me something to plan and build towards.

I'm likely stuck at tier AAA for a while because I don't have a Clansman Eddie or enough other duplicate red Eddies and toons built up enough. I'm fine with that.

I like that if I reach tier AAA I get a full set of talismans. I like that I can spend zero Ironite to get that far.

Most on point post I’ve read so far! Thumbs up from here!

[Yup]

Well I for one am growing tired.. tired of PvP giving the defense the (yes it IS there) accuracy boost.. unhappy that same boost seems to permeate the Gauntlet. There's no goal, nothing to strive for beyond overcoming the AI and what it decides to give the automated team you can never achieve.

I appreciate that the dev seems to feel this is a "new playable content" -- but reality is, it's just PVP which further limits the ATK team in addition to still boosting the D team once a player gets to a certain point.... they hook you in with easy matches to start burning your SOW and hopefully ironite... then the throw in the same old boosts. They knew full well players aren't going to have 15 fully sharded Eddies to use in two classes - whatever those classes may be. They designed it for player failure. I'm amazed many don't see that.

To me, this is merely more of the same.... Too bad, really. It would have been nice to actually have a feature that progresses the story rather than putting a dress and makeup on an existing feature. It's nothing more than PvP revamped which made it, my guess is, easier to implement therefore... Gauntlet before Night City/Silent Planet or anything else.

All that being posted, it does look nice and seems to operate well. I just think the concept was, well, mediocre at best. Something which made players feel as though they were actually accomplishing something and progressing rather than doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over would have been better.

[Kamuz24z]

Devs I think there is a bug in the rankings I’m 95% 39/41 I’m in the middle of floor S and I’m rank 83 there are players with similar stats and they are top 10 can you please check that I don’t want to miss the necropolis talismans

[Shaolin85london]

I like that it's hard.

I like that I can't be lazy and just blow Ironite to get past an obstacle.

I like that if I lose, then, well, I lose.

I like that there are tiers I can't beat because I don't have the toons and/or talismans to get past them. It gives me something to plan and build towards.

I'm likely stuck at tier AAA for a while because I don't have a Clansman Eddie or enough other duplicate red Eddies and toons built up enough. I'm fine with that.

I like that if I reach tier AAA I get a full set of talismans. I like that I can spend zero Ironite to get that far.

Sorry mate, have you been at sss yet? No because u should try it and then talk about. I like it's hard, I def love the challenge aspects but still it's impossible not hard go through SSS with a full sharded and optimized relics roster Inc the beast horus etc if u got locked on the previous two stages your best toons because u were need of those to defeat teams reflecting sss team! Probably u don't know that I ve faced and defeated 20 strong teams already before to get SSS grade. So if gauntlet make some sense, u can't found the same though teams from grade s to sss. That should escalate, the difficult I mean. I didn't reach sss defeating doomsday ie, Lili blu, sekmeth isis horus Alexander the beast and guys like that using only hell dices and corrupted ox. Does it make any sense? Cheers

[Ancient Mariner]

Another thing that imho should be added is to show wihch talismans the enemy teams have. Without that the outcome can change a lot according to what you brought in battle

[Kamuz24z]

Another thing that imho should be added is to show wihch talismans the enemy teams have. Without that the outcome can change a lot according to what you brought in battle
For now you have to assume the worst combination of talismans

[Fudjo]

Sorry mate, have you been at sss yet? No because u should try it and then talk about. I like it's hard, I def love the challenge aspects but still it's impossible not hard go through SSS with a full sharded and optimized relics roster Inc the beast horus etc if u got locked on the previous two stages your best toons because u were need of those to defeat teams reflecting sss team! Probably u don't know that I ve faced and defeated 20 strong teams already before to get SSS grade. So if gauntlet make some sense, u can't found the same though teams from grade s to sss. That should escalate, the difficult I mean. I didn't reach sss defeating doomsday ie, Lili blu, sekmeth isis horus Alexander the beast and guys like that using only hell dices and corrupted ox. Does it make any sense? Cheers

Four days ago, you congratulated Carlos for reaching the God rank:

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10514-The-Gauntlet-BETA-DETAILS&p=79139&viewfull=1#post79139

Maybe you're right and something changed after the latest update that has caused Tier SSS to be mathematically impossible to beat. That could very well be the case and it's why we're beta testing.

[Shaolin85london]

Four days ago, you congratulated Carlos for reaching the God rank:

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10514-The-Gauntlet-BETA-DETAILS&p=79139&viewfull=1#post79139

Maybe you're right and something changed after the latest update that has caused Tier SSS to be mathematically impossible to beat. That could very well be the case and it's why we're beta testing.

I've congratulated Carlos because he won the grade sss at first position like god, however me and kamuz terminated both at SSS 2# and 3# rank, and I swear to god, last week SSS grade wasn't so though.

[Peppoah]

And if those three and a few other big names couldn’t make it, then no one can. Most of the big names left anyway and they won’t come back too soon, because they lost interest or got banned.
You need lots of dupe OP eddies like five IEs, Clansmans, 7s etc.

[Fudjo]

And if those three and a few other big names couldn’t make it, then no one can. Most of the big names left anyway and they won’t come back too soon, because they lost interest or got banned.
You need lots of dupe OP eddies like five IEs, Clansmans, 7s etc.

Well that's the thing. If the big names are having a hard time beating Tier SSS, is it because it's mathematically impossible or is it because it's a difficult puzzle to solve even for a big name player? If it's the former, it should be corrected as part of the beta test. If it's the latter, isn't that the kind of challenge we should expect to have to reach "God" ranking?

[PerthEddie]

OK I am confused now. I thought the teams we face were other human players and the system randomly chooses a team from their roster using the exact talismans etc. that players has assigned to his characters? Is my thinking wrong?

[Yup]

I think the only human input is your team, everything else is set. That way the devs can control difficulty. If it were all player teams, then it'd be easy to beat by many, especially those who can hit the top of PvP.

[PerthEddie]

I think the only human input is your team, everything else is set. That way the devs can control difficulty. If it were all player teams, then it'd be easy to beat by many, especially those who can hit the top of PvP.

That is why I was confused - I wondered why guys who are at the top week in week out were struggling against a fellow human player. If the teams are artificial though then that would explain why.

On that note for people who have completed level A this week how hard is it? I am not liking the look of the Navigator/Goddess Aset/Warrior Lilith/Horus team at all :(

[Peppoah]

Andy, level A is easy, level AA, too. I didn’t change any talisman. I was struggling at level AAA last week because I didn’t change talisman and after losing three or four fights I ran out of warrior Eddies. There was one team with IE and Gimp that I couldn’t manage. This week I’m at level AAA but didn’t start so far. I’ll wait for next week.

BTW, i saw you send me a request last week or so. I don’t have an open spot ATM but I’ll let you know.

[90mphyorker]

I’m trying to get as far as possible without spending any Ironite. Since it was opened to all I am now at Grade B and since last night I have cleared 3 battles. I have 2 more battles to finish to clear B, which I’ll do tomorrow morning. Over 24 hours to clear one Grade is too much.

I have only been able to play one Arena match each day because if this.

It’s impossible to play Arena and Gauntlet.

As many has already said, this needs it’s own time.

Or better yet, get rid off SoW and make it free.

[PerthEddie]

Thanks Pepp.

So, I was right to be concerned about the Nav/Warrior Lilith/Goddess Aset/Horus team. Thought I would try and get it out of the way first and just lost twice to it - second time getting my arse handed to me on a plate :( Any suggestions of a team/talismans to beat it (I just hope I have the characters that are suggested)? I am probably going to struggle to clear this whole level now :( :(

[Hersker-3859]

My input 🙂
A question first :
Rank F = 2 battles
Rank E = 3 battles
Rank D = 3 battles
Rank C = 4 battles
Rank B = 5 battles
Rank A = 6 battles
Rank AA = 6 battles
Rank AAA = 5 battle
Rank S = 8 battles
Rank SS = 10 battles
Rank SSS = 10 battles
-wait, does that mean we need 62 different Eddies and 186 unique, lvl 100 & fully sharded characters...?! Because then I need to start using gold on inventory space rather than those legendary souls 😳 Not to mention needing another 5-10 years to fully shard them all 😦

“Stomseye” nailed it:
“Allow full disclosure of opponent teams and their talismans on every floor so that we can plan our teams accordingly. This will not be too unfair as we still need to have a deep roster and the talismans to back it up.
Provide an easier way to swap talismans on characters.”

Also, it would be very nice to be able to see which of my characters has which talisman sets on. As it is, I have 3 rescuers with a different set on all 3, and no way of knowing which one has the energy set versus the eternal set (or whatever the green set is called from the Horus event). Actually this would be tremendously helpful across all the worlds and Arena too 😁

Difficulty is too high for me, I just had my fully sharded lvl 100 team with maxed talismans almost get their behinds kicked on the E (yes, “E”!!) grade 😵 So much for that fun LOL. 😆 Not playing this more than grade F in the future, just to get a rank and the lowest prize.
The coin toss should not be there; what’s wrong with letting us start every time, and with a decent amount of energy, like in PvE? It’s not like you aren’t providing enough obstacles as is already, with the insane SoW prizes, class and dupe restrictions and INSANE amounts of weird talismans I’ve never heard of or seen before on “easy” teams.

I hope I got it wrong, but why do we need to fight for rank? Can’t we just win the thing and get first prize, without risking someone else grapping it/kicking us down the ladder.?
Then again, I dislike the Arena as much for the same reasons(apart from SoW cost), so maybe I’m just a bit put out by the similarities.

The prize on the battles should just be lowered to 1 per battle, like in Arena.
Defeat should not use up your characters, that’s just adding salt to the wound 🤕

Otherwise it looked promising, but I have a feeling that I’m stuck with the darn Arena for a long, long while.

Hersker-3859

[Yup]

-wait, does that mean we need 62 different Eddies

To be fair, each level clears the usage. So you can use the same Eddie on different levels, you just can't use the same Eddie on the same level. So really, you'd need 10 Eddies for SS then you can use those same 10 for SSS. If you lose a match. you need 11 Eddies, lose 2 matches you need 12 ... etc.

Then consider that there are only 34 Eddies total across all classes. Then factor in class restrictions such as Magus (7)/Warrior(8)... and that some are exceptionally weak even fully powered (Wicker Ed, Rtth, etc)..... so.. yeah.. it's not really geared to make players feel welcome.

It's not a "game" mode for players.. it's a "game" mode for NF to hopefully inspire purchases.

[Blade]

I like that it's hard.

I like that I can't be lazy and just blow Ironite to get past an obstacle.

I like that if I lose, then, well, I lose.

I like that there are tiers I can't beat because I don't have the toons and/or talismans to get past them. It gives me something to plan and build towards.

I'm likely stuck at tier AAA for a while because I don't have a Clansman Eddie or enough other duplicate red Eddies and toons built up enough. I'm fine with that.

I like that if I reach tier AAA I get a full set of talismans. I like that I can spend zero Ironite to get that far.

I share the same opinion. I reached AAA now and I think this is my sweetspot. I was a little greedy, bought 2 or 3 SoW refills. 9 days left that I could have used to do the battles. But those 9 days can be filled with Arena fights now. So there is a strategy about timing between PvP and Gauntlet fights to be optimised.

[Josef]

Devs I think there is a bug in the rankings I’m 95% 39/41 I’m in the middle of floor S and I’m rank 83 there are players with similar stats and they are top 10 can you please check that I don’t want to miss the necropolis talismans

I also think that there is something wrong with the rank at the moment I am at AAA have won 100% 30/30 fights and I am still Unranked....

[Fudjo]

I share the same opinion. I reached AAA now and I think this is my sweetspot. I was a little greedy, bought 2 or 3 SoW refills. 9 days left that I could have used to do the battles. But those 9 days can be filled with Arena fights now. So there is a strategy about timing between PvP and Gauntlet fights to be optimised.

Yeah, that's where I think I'm at, too. I had some spare time last night and spent 60 Ironite finishing up Tier AA. Spending Ironite to try to complete AAA faster (if I even can at all) doesn't seem worth the rewards. A fourth talisman from a 3-set isn't much use, especially when it's a talisman type that's not likely to appear again for a while.

[Lord Schmeb]

Why am I still “unranked” at level AAA?

[Askora]

Why am I still “unranked” at level AAA?

If it's any consolation this is what mine is showing. The rank in the lower left corner shows 470 and stays at that. Waiting to see if anything changes at daily reset.

4812

[Askora]

Maybe rank is determined randomly, since NF seems to be hell bent on making every aspect of the game random. I guess since they lack skill, they don't want skill to be a factor in the game. :cool:

[Kamuz24z]

Same here still rank 83 it doesn’t matter how many fights I do I even have better stats than rank 2 91% 51/56 one more I’ll get to level SSS I reached to support a few days ago no answer yet but as long as they give me the correct rewards no problem

[HuckFinn150]

I was hoping for a reset and the ability to continue to my 5th battle. Unfortunately, it seems my gauntlet days are done.

[R1ck]

Maybe the fix for ranking issue consists on resetting everything and that is something nobody wants. Anyways waiting for devs answer.

[Moonchild-6759]

I managed - with a combination of a heroic Coalgiver Eddie and a lucky Trooper Eddie pick - to get past AAA. But having now won my last AAA battle and 3 battles in S (Which is really easy if you have a large roster) i am still on the exact same rank as before. And according to the score board i am far ahead of the people around me (rank 20-30) on number of wins.

[surfingwithdje]

Yeah i think there is an issue with the ranking... i'm stuck at rank #28, going from grade AAA to SS...

The gauntlet is very fun to play but maybe 2-3 things can be adjusted, the main issues for me is the cost in SoW (impossible for me to play both arena and gauntlet).
If it stay like this i will probably not play this feature even if it's fun :/

The difficulty is also very high, i'm at the middle of the rank SS, i already used 80% of the strongest characters (the OP ones), with no refresh i'm sure to not be able to win any battle in grade SSS lol.

Even with a deep roster (all the possible characters except 2-3 limited) and a high relics level, clearing SSS grade looks like impossible for me at the moment...

[Nicko]

That’s where I’m at too DJE

Had a couple losses in both AAA and S; one team in each gave me difficulty due to their Talismans and it was fun to clear them - just enough challenge and wasn’t sure I would make it.

Now - first team in SS is a Cyborg, Blue Lilith, Yellow Lilith, and Sekhmet. Because we don’t see Talismans we have to assume Valor on Sekhmet, Primordial on Cyborg, and Destiny on Blue Lilith - and that involves fighting them with your best toons. I’m not saying these levels can’t be beat - I’m saying that for the average player the risk/reward relative to the challenge level appears to be unfavorable.

The two week reset is nice. PvP is like a cup of coffee in the morning - easy to pull out and do on the spot and then go back to work - Gauntlet takes more thought so it’s nice to have that larger window.

It’s been discussed before - but Talsman management really needs to be improved for Gauntlet to be a success and not a tedious endeavor. It would be nice if we could group them into sets - not simply individual Talismans - and simply choose a set from a drop down list or something of that nature - even if it’s already on a toon. It would also be great if that list showed which toon a set was on so that it would be easy to find and we equip them straight from that list - with all the switching going on it’s sometimes easy to forget. This would make for a huge improvement in playability.

I think it’s been overall pretty fun so far - it’s nice to have a challenge and it felt good to overcome them - but as I stare at the first team in SS ( who named this - the Corrupt General?) I’m getting the feeling the cost and risk of failure will limit advancement...

[Cefiar]

Too many cases where the game has crashed out on me, losing my SoW and characters so that I can't play again, so not ranked at the moment.

Even used Nebu fragments to grab Sekmet and powered her up, then the game crashed and she got lost too.

The crashing chewing up characters and SoW is really annoying.

[Liebhild]

The whole toon selection should be rebuild.

With all those new toons we have to swipe several hours.

Some devices may also get ruts :-O

[Nicko]

Too many cases where the game has crashed out on me, losing my SoW and characters so that I can't play again, so not ranked at the moment.

Even used Nebu fragments to grab Sekmet and powered her up, then the game crashed and she got lost too.

The crashing chewing up characters and SoW is really annoying.

That sucks - it’s actually been pretty stable for me recently - so possibly OS or device specific. And even if you were able to play the ranks are all screwed up - they’ll need to solve that before reset this Sunday or support will be overwhelmed with requests

[Kamuz24z]

I’ve been stuck for 2 days unable to do anything same bug, last time we were able to do 3 fights after every reset but no this time I didn’t have any problem until I get to level SSS

[trooper206]

Hi,all.
My first impressions are good,I can say.I have to say congrats to the team for this idea.However,first thing that stroke me was that this game mode is cost prohibitive.Another major issue is the coin toss.After some 34-35 tries,I may got 3-4 tosses in my favor.I like the challenge,I really do.But I am up to S the least in terms of difficulty and SOW spending,and I spent some ironite to just try the beta. Overall,the SOW cost and rewards should be readjusted somehow.I understand it is beta so I will wait for the final release to discuss if SOW cost is lower and rewards are a bit better in terms of milestones. No bugs for the moment for me,except ranking;if only I press on “ranked rewards” tab will I be able to see a general ranking like I am in “S 500” tier.I hope at least to get the rewards described there.Cheers to the devs and fellow troopers!

[Yup]

It's not really "beta" -- I mean, they take player resources, that's not "beta" anywhere. They merely tag it as "beta" so they could make more changes without people being too upset or at least to have an argument should players get upset. Basically the "beta" tag gives them a default "out" for any complaint, that's all. If it were really "beta", it'd be free to play until all the bug are worked out. Or they'd be awarding the SOW back to the players after each battle and typically there'd be no actual rewards or exceptionally minimal rewards.

[trooper206]

Yes,I totally agree with you in that.A “beta” tag should at least not lead to draining that huge amount of resources.I just mentioned “beta” because I am really curious to see whether the dev team will listen to the player base in terms of lowering sow,giving some better rewards,and adjusting difficulty.It is really sad though that their tactic is to allow all players to try the mode,but with the great cost of losing their hard earned ironite.

[T-Man]

Agree this really isn’t a beta if we are using and losing resources to bug test. I submitted a ticket on losing resources plus the counted loss because of the forced update and haven’t heard a thing back from the devs. It’s been a week and crickets.

[90mphyorker]

I’m out at AAA this week.

No way I have the resources available to clear it now. Could only afford one lose and with my resources left I have no way to clear a team of Samurai, Warrior Lilith, Gunner Golden Son with Primordials and Horus with Eternal Talisman.

Used my best characters for that one and naturally, I lost the toss, was stunned into oblivion by Horus and couldn’t do anything against their every skill triggering.

I’m out of Gauntlet permanently to be honest. Until they lower the SoW costs, it’s just not worth it.

[SDTull]

Cleared A with minimal problems. Don't have enough Magus/Warrior allies to atempt AA. Quite frankly it's cost in SoW discourages me from even attempting any battles in AA. Also a bit peeved at the accuracy boost for the defense rearing its head in Level A. I'm assuming that only gets worse.

[Blade]

Part of the rewards in this 2 weeks season are Talisman that you cannot get anywhere else in the game. It is a 3-set Talisman. So it makes absolutely no sense to get 1, 2, 4 or 5 of them. I reached the rank where you will get one set (but all the same subtype, which I don't like) at the end of the season. It was ok to do this, of course it did cost some SoW but not too much to do it in 2 weeks in my opinion. But to get 2 sets of these Talismans you would need to get to tier SSS and be ranked top10-50 ...impossible for me and probably for more than 90% of the playerbase.

Apart from reaching AAA for the 3-set, the lower sweetspots in my opinion are:
Tier D -> 2 rare souls
Tier B -> 2 skill shards
Tier A -> 3 heroic souls

I had 2 game crashes in total. This is not much, but it is severe, as you lose the SoW and the used chars for your next try. Apart from that, everything runs quite smooth... but yes, not very surprising, as it is more or less the PvP environment with a different graphical design...

[SDTull]

I had no crashes but what just happened in my first battle of AA is where I draw the line. When a permadeathed toon gets revived count me out.

[Ip4]

Gauntlet is one big copy/paste pvp...

only good thing will be NIGHT CITY but maybe in next few years...

[Leviathan]

Why am I still “unranked” at level AAA?

Hi Troopers!

We pushed a server not long ago that should hopefully solve the issue that would result in some Gauntlet players being unranked.

If you're still showing as 'unranked' or notice something funny with Gauntlet rankings, please post the details in the Gauntlet bug thread: http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10513-Gauntlet-Beta-Official-Bug-Report-Thread or email our support team.

Cheers \m/

EDIT: Please note that if you are in an unranked state, you must first play a battle in order to update your rank.

[surfingwithdje]

Hi Troopers!

We pushed a server not long ago that should hopefully solve the issue that would result in some Gauntlet players being unranked.

If you're still showing as 'unranked' or notice something funny with Gauntlet rankings, please post the details in the Gauntlet bug thread: http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10513-Gauntlet-Beta-Official-Bug-Report-Thread or email our support team.

Cheers \m/

EDIT: Please note that if you are in an unranked state, you must first play a battle in order to update your rank.

Hi Leviathan!

It looks like there is still an issue with the gauntlet ranking for me : in the back of the screen my ranking is #2 and when i go for looking the ranking of other players my ranking is #56. (i've played a battle for update the rank)

(player dje-8079)

[Kamuz24z]

I have an issue as well I still can’t do another fight to fix my rank I tried again today after reset still the game freezes after pressing the battle icon.

[Warlord]

My rank there 209 but my wife's amy-3977 says unranked and were both at AAA... Started beta bout 5 days before her... But she just wants makes sure she gets her rewards from that tier lol...

[DanielRacy]

Reinstalled the game and still unranked.

[GotN]

I didn’t play much Gauntlet cause I don’t like it and it is totally useless for me. Nevertheless wanted to give it a chance. Am at F atm. Went in with the team of Navigator Ed, Nomad, Warrior Troll and AOS, all full maxed with full maxed talis. I lost the coin toss and my whole team got killed within one turn! I mean, WHAT??? This is just stage 2 of Gauntlet and a full maxed team gets stomped into the ground within seconds!?!? For sure, something is running totally wrong here! With this + high costs + ridiculous rewards this is by far the worst part of this game. I’m out of this!

[Tim28213]

Is anyone else running into issues with maxing out the available character inventory slots?
I am very reluctant to let go of anything that might be useful in gauntlet and now that I know I need duplicate copies of many characters I'm down to my last few available slots. I've locked many characters I had previously planned to sacrifice this month now that I've played beta and know what to expect.
Keeping duplicates is really having an impact on my inventory.

[blade685]

did you use all your ironit in that gauntlet? it is TOOOOO expensive.
I did grad B to reach Grad A and stop here to have only 2 new talismans ( the only good reward in gauntlet...) after in grad A it is 6 SOW for each battle X6 = 36 SOW for 28X6= 168 IC
In PVP 36 SOW give me 540 IC and more level more big difference, actually it absolutely don't worth the price....

[rags-6094]

I stopped playing gauntlet for a while till I've maxed out a few more warriors and Magis toons,also I'm basically stomped every time I attempt AAA levels...
But I thought the whole idea was that you can't use dupe toons? Is this a bug that has been discovered?
Sorry I should probably read back a few pages but to keep it quick can someone update me ?

[Tim28213]

Some sections you can use dupes and others are restricted to not use dupes. The details for each section are reasonably clear.
There is an icon below the missions. If you press and hold that it will tell you if there are any restrictions on that tier of battles.

[rags-6094]

Oh ok I see what you mean, yeah where I'm up to you do not appear to be able to use dupe toons...

[Kamuz24z]

Devs I didn’t get the correct rewards from gauntlet I end up as Rank #1 Level SSS and I got the rewards from Level SS rank #100
175 warrior mythical soul fragments
100 mythical soul fragments
55 Iron Coins
5 Necropolis talismans
175 heroic soul fragments
I was supposed to get:
1 warrior mythical soul
250 mythical soul fragments
150 Iron coins
6 necropolis talismans
300 heroic soul fragments
Account: kamuz-8227

[Kaz_LOTB]

Devs I didn’t get the correct rewards from gauntlet I end up as Rank #1 Level SSS and I got the rewards from Level SS rank #100
175 warrior mythical soul fragments
100 mythical soul fragments
55 Iron Coins
5 Necropolis talismans
175 heroic soul fragments
I was supposed to get:
1 warrior mythical soul
250 mythical soul fragments
150 Iron coins
6 necropolis talismans
300 heroic soul fragments
Account: kamuz-8227

I'll pass this along to our customer support team to investigate.

Thanks

-Kaz

[Kamuz24z]

Thanks for the fast reply -Kaz

[Alvorada]

The current rewards tab show mystical magus fragments, heroic fragments and 2 ghost talismans for "rookie III" (grade F).

so, it is a bug or I will get some goods for doing nothing?

[SDTull]

Mine showed that too, at first. That is no longer showing now.

[Shaolin85london]

I'll pass this along to our customer support team to investigate.

Thanks

-Kaz

I did receive the rewards of SSS grade rank 1. I don't know if this is a mistake following the insight of Kamuz. My nickname is shaolinlondo-7198

Thanks for the New sentinel magus Challenge in gauntlet this week, keep it coming. Cheers

[Olevipoeg]

did you use all your ironit in that gauntlet? it is TOOOOO expensive.
I did grad B to reach Grad A and stop here to have only 2 new talismans ( the only good reward in gauntlet...) after in grad A it is 6 SOW for each battle X6 = 36 SOW for 28X6= 168 IC
In PVP 36 SOW give me 540 IC and more level more big difference, actually it absolutely don't worth the price....
I agree absolutely. It's fun but way too expensive.

[AcesHigh189]

My characters that I used in Gauntlet are still not available even after the reset. Anyone having the same problem.

[Ip4]

this is last time i played rhis retarded and stupid gauntlet,worst game mode ever...

[Deathbat6120]

My characters that I used in Gauntlet are still not available even after the reset. Anyone having the same problem.

Happened to me, but after I cleared a level, the issue fixed itself.

[Blade]

So the cycle is over. I got the right rewards and in contrast to the Arena I got a popup showing my rewards - nice.
This cycle is about the blue ghost Talisman. Well, it is ok but those Talis are not very important in the current meta I think. But still a nice way to get a set just to have it for the future. Also good: as it is a 4-set Talis, the reward structure was adjusted that you get 4 Talis in Tier AAA. This time I will try to do Gauntlet and Arena in parallel without spending Ironite for SoW. I think it should be possible to reach AAA within the 2 weeks but we will see.

[R1ck]

As I have a limited time to play Arena, being able to get rid of SoW quickly with some Gauntlet battles is good for me. Last Gauntlet cycle managed to get AAA grade without a real loss and be in top 100 last 2 weeks in PVP only using free SoW. Maybe will try to get S grade when sacrifice event comes and have a lot of extra SoW.

[WastingYears81]

Enjoying the mode so far, nice to actually have a use for a roster (and building it now makes sense). Will be interesting to see how far I can go with the 'normal' sow now there isn't also an arena event. Overall top tiers the cost is too high (can basically play two battles a day = 3 days to clear a tier assuming no defeats). No obvious bugs so far, will the rewards cycle though - if the talismans don't come back round again then thats a downside (don't need 2 of a 3 set with no way to get the third).

[Kaz_LOTB]

Enjoying the mode so far, nice to actually have a use for a roster (and building it now makes sense). Will be interesting to see how far I can go with the 'normal' sow now there isn't also an arena event. Overall top tiers the cost is too high (can basically play two battles a day = 3 days to clear a tier assuming no defeats). No obvious bugs so far, will the rewards cycle though - if the talismans don't come back round again then thats a downside (don't need 2 of a 3 set with no way to get the third).

The Talismans featured in the Gauntlet as rewards will indeed cycle, albeit with a bit of variance.

-Kaz

[blade685]

talismans of gauntlet = useless for me, i don't do it for 14 days :)

[blade685]

talismans of gauntlet that next 2 weeks= useless for me, other prices are bad i will not do it for the next 14 days :)

[Moonchild-6759]

Something has been nerfed by quite a large amount.
Last reset i used up almost all my warrior characters at grade AAA and only got past it due to some lucky dupes and a lucky pick of a trooper eddie dupe from a soul.
This reset i blasted through the tier no losses at all and hardly thinking about having the right talisman setup.

My relics for magus characters are only better than the warrior ones by 2 purchases of health - so they are almost the same.

The way it was this week it felt too easy. Almost like "just spend SOW untill you hit SS and the bang your head against the wall knowning what is coming in SSS".

[blade685]

Something has been nerfed by quite a large amount.
Last reset i used up almost all my warrior characters at grade AAA and only got past it due to some lucky dupes and a lucky pick of a trooper eddie dupe from a soul.
This reset i blasted through the tier no losses at all and hardly thinking about having the right talisman setup.

My relics for magus characters are only better than the warrior ones by 2 purchases of health - so they are almost the same.

The way it was this week it felt too easy. Almost like "just spend SOW untill you hit SS and the bang your head against the wall knowning what is coming in SSS".

perhaps but for end players, rewards are useless = gauntlet useless :)

[Shaolin85london]

Something has been nerfed by quite a large amount.
Last reset i used up almost all my warrior characters at grade AAA and only got past it due to some lucky dupes and a lucky pick of a trooper eddie dupe from a soul.
This reset i blasted through the tier no losses at all and hardly thinking about having the right talisman setup.

My relics for magus characters are only better than the warrior ones by 2 purchases of health - so they are almost the same.

The way it was this week it felt too easy. Almost like "just spend SOW untill you hit SS and the bang your head against the wall knowning what is coming in SSS".

Yeah pretty much this, however the conflict of interest starts at grade ss where at least myself found only teams op with op talisman (gimp+ primordial) I basically used all toons who can wear those, sandworm too, yes, and still the pci keep proposing those primordial gimpy team over and over again. Is this intended like a challenge or there is def something going wrong right there? ....

[WastingYears81]

The Talismans featured in the Gauntlet as rewards will indeed cycle, albeit with a bit of variance.

-Kaz

Cheers for the confirmation Kaz.

[surfingwithdje]

Yeah pretty much this, however the conflict of interest starts at grade ss where at least myself found only teams op with op talisman (gimp+ primordial) I basically used all toons who can wear those, sandworm too, yes, and still the pci keep proposing those primordial gimpy team over and over again. Is this intended like a challenge or there is def something going wrong right there? ....

I'd like to submit a suggestion for a more fun gauntlet!!
At higher levels it becomes boring because we have to fight versus the same characters over and over: blue lilith, prisoner, iron eddie, clansman, gods of powerslave, etc...
Why not only use 1 character once by gauntley grade also in the defense teams ? It should be fun to meet very different teams all along the gauntlet :)

[Patrice-1201]

I'd like to submit a suggestion for a more fun gauntlet!!
At higher levels it becomes boring because we have to fight versus the same characters over and over: blue lilith, prisoner, iron eddie, clansman, gods of powerslave, etc...
Why not only use 1 character once by gauntley grade also in the defense teams ? It should be fun to meet very different teams all along the gauntlet :)
Yes to that!

[90mphyorker]

Devs, I went against what I said previously and gave it another go. I liked it first time but felt the cost of SoW was too high and the rewards of IC from it wasn’t enough.

This week I have made it further to rank SS. 10 SoW and 10 battles is a lot of cost and time to clear and 3 battles in I think I’m going to stop. I have plenty of characters left but for the love of God, GIVE THE TEAMS SOME VARIETY. Non stop teams where if you don’t have Primordial, Destiny or Eternal Talismans you are toast is just boring. Swapping said Talismans around each battle as without them you have no chance is boring.

I’m not going to clear this grade due to lack if characters (might still run out of characters, depends on my team choices and luck) but because lack of characters that can take Primordial, Destiny or Eternal Talisman. That’s pretty much all I’ve faced so far. 3 Prisoners, all with Primordials, 2 Magus Liliths with Destinys. No Eternals yet but round rank before each battle a character had that and without equiping then or Primordials or Destiny I’d have been toast.

If you are going to use the same characters over and over again for us to beat, why can’t we? Faced 3 Prisoners in a row, each with Primordials but I can use only 1. No dupes. Surely the dupe shoukd apply to the defensive teams too.

Why not make it if a character survives that battles they can be used again. They only become unuseable if they die. Make it fairer for when you lose the fecking toss too.

Gauntlet is a good game mode, just feel it needs a few more tweaks with it’s cost, need of it’s own currency, some enemies you face and team rules.

[kgk56]

Just a Question : does really the Devs thinks that the common Player have enough Magus to complete stage AAA ?

[Fudjo]

I’m not going to clear this grade due to lack if characters (might still run out of characters, depends on my team choices and luck) but because lack of characters that can take Primordial, Destiny or Eternal Talisman.

For me, personally, I see the Gauntlet as a game mode where I have to build up my roster so I can take on the stronger challenges down the road, not a game mode where I should be able to conquer all of it right now. More new characters will be released and our rosters will gradually get deeper.

At the same time, I totally understand the concern that perhaps there are rewards being offered right now (even if it's just a beta test) that are mathematically impossible to attain. If that's the case, yeah, it should be addressed.

[Tim28213]

I totally agree that to do well in Gauntlet you have to build up your roster. I have put in a support ticket because I am OUT of available character slots. I am dreading the sacrifice event because I don't want to let go of anything this time. The few characters I have that I feel are truly spares at this point won't make a decent sacrifice. It's going to be a tough decision at the sacrifice pit this time for me...

I also agree about the Gauntlet opponent lists. It would be nice to face a deeper variety of characters? I would love to see a level 100 Sandworm mixed in with the uber powerful characters on the other side of the line.

[OdoyleRules]

ster. I have put in a support ticket because I am OUT of available character slots.

Huh? What is your limit right now? Can you add?

[Muzzleloader]

300 character slots.

[Yup]

And 300 Talisman slots.

They really should be adding 3 slots to characters for every new character released and at least 3 slots to talismans for every new talisman set released. Problem is you'd anger users charging them the same expansion cost for 3 slots.. .. so just add 5 slots to both when new things are added to the "game".

Although... I have a handful of duplicates (maybe 10) along with pretty much everything else barring 1 and 2 star toons, and I'm just barely above 150 characters. So... it appears some users are building 3, 4, 5 of the same character.

[Tim28213]

I freely admit that I've hoarded a lot of characters, but I'm also sitting on about 20-30 characters that I've been slowly leveling up intentionally to sacrifice in the next sac event. I have a bunch of 3* and even a couple of lower* characters that I have locked because I want to level them up and play eventually. I have no idea if they will be any fun. but someday I want to try them out at a higher level. It all adds up. The someday to play characters, the soon to sacrifice, the I don't want to let these go, and the these are critical to play so I need duplicates...

I got burned early on when I started playing this game sacrificing characters then realizing later that I may never see that toon again. Then oh look, the devs completely changed its abilities and that character suddenly makes sense. So I'm paranoid about getting rid of a lot of borderline characters.

[Leandrium]

I went to my last A fight (no dupes), against a team of Paraoh Eddie, Blue Valkirie, Paraoh King Dog and Krampus. With my only left toons, Green Priest, Grim Reaper Eddie and two Green Liliths (yeah the dupes aplies after the battle). I took all the team except krampus, and it took me like 30 turns to kill him. Why? Because the 50% chance of doom or the 40% chance of Block Healing from my non sharded Eddie where not enought to apply any buff. The are really high chances in two attacks they must aplly the efect but well, the non-existing-defense-buff is in the gauntlet to.
No not mention that my (sharded/full) defense team gets 1-turn-murder against a Yellow Lilith, PDK, Paraoh Eddie and Rocket Dog. But hey i killed them with non full - useless chars.
The cost per battle was 6 SoW, 6 of 10 free, and they manage to buff your oponent so you must pay. Great job devs.

[90mphyorker]

For me, personally, I see the Gauntlet as a game mode where I have to build up my roster so I can take on the stronger challenges down the road, not a game mode where I should be able to conquer all of it right now. More new characters will be released and our rosters will gradually get deeper.

At the same time, I totally understand the concern that perhaps there are rewards being offered right now (even if it's just a beta test) that are mathematically impossible to attain. If that's the case, yeah, it should be addressed.

I was hoping Gauntlet was going to be a mode where you could make use of every character and every talisman to clear it. A challenge, but once you had use a character and or a particular talisman it would still be possible. Currently I feel in the top levels I’ve done it’s just a case of turning up without Primordials, Eternals or Destiny you will be pretty much screwed.

Stuck now as what options I see to clear Magus Lilith with Destiny is exhausted. Either used then to clear the first one I faced or they’ve died. If I do clear this one am I too face that team again? Hope not. I do believe if the mode says we can’t use duplicates then the defences should be the same too.

But hey, people are clearing them so maybe it’s just me and I need to suck it up and get better. Won’t be offended it people say that.

Incidentally, Gunner Lilith was nerfed because since Primordials she was doing too much damage with them. Are the Devs going to look at Magus Lilith because with Primordials and Accession she’s regularly doing 17k up to 5 times.

[Knut-3112]

OK, I've almost totally skipped the previous Gauntlet event (only completed the 2 F battles) but this week I decided to play it more. I eventually got to AAA and I think I'll stop here. Anyway, I have to say that this mode is very cool. A real challenge requiring a certain degree of strategy and thought to beat it. In the Arena I was lazy and usually used the same lineup 99% of the time. In the gauntlet things are different. I was forced to change the squad and replace talismans several times. Something fresh at last!

Few things could be improved, however. First - the sands of war requirement is very high. Too high for regular playing I guess. Something should be done about it - either separate type of sands/whatever or lower the amount of sands needed if using the same ones as the arena. Or maybe increase the cap from 10 to 20 or decrease the recovery time by half? There are several ways to address it.

Another thing - character and talisman management. In it's current state it's a real pain to do it. It should be somehow possible to switch talismans on the pre-battle char selection screen to make it easier. Or just a shortcut to "my team" somewhere on that screen. Currently we have to go back a few times, go to "my team", change talismans, go back, enter PVP again, choose characters again (the previous selection gets lost!) and if we want to alter it a bit more, perform the whole procedure again. But it's still beta so that's okay. I just hope you listen to our suggestions, devs and improve it later.

TL;DR: Gauntlet is cool and I like it!

[Symbiote]

Mmh.., i played Gauntlet a bit.., i am at AAA.., but the pricing is a fucking joke isn't it?
And yeah.., a Sentinel Lilith with Eclipse Talis?
Really? A six set Assassin Talis on a Character who has two green slots?

I don't know.., the challenging is cool.., but the pricing is obviously a way to loot more money from the players who are willing to throw their money to your bugged game.., and the Talismans on Characters who aren't able to carry them.., what is this?
This is crap...

Gauntlet itself could be cool, challenging and a good way to look more on characters you never used., but the pricing and the crap with talisman sets on characters who can't carry.., change this PLEASE with a FIX for all of the damn Bugs in this Game...

Set your Focus on FIXING and playability not money...

[Olevipoeg]

Mmh.., i played Gauntlet a bit.., i am at AAA.., but the pricing is a fucking joke isn't it?
And yeah.., a Sentinel Lilith with Eclipse Talis?
Really? A six set Assassin Talis on a Character who has two green slots?

Maybe it was Assassin Lilith?

[Killljoy-8322]

Hi folks, So this is my first post regarding Gauntlet.
As a casual player,I don't spend much on this game and my toon roaster Isn't top tier,no new Eddie since PoM so I find the restrictions on class annoyingly difficult.
My biggest bug bear with this content is it's to expensive for the average player and the coin toss/opponent attacks first.
I reached rank AA for the first time today but on the last fight on A rank I had 5 battles in a row where the opponent creamed my teams on first attack and I almost gave up but for lady luck coming to my side pulling Osiris and RE I was able to make a team up and won. without this fortune I would of given up and probably never come back.
Overall Gauntlet is OK but for casual players like myself it's cost and restrictions of toons makes it almost unplayable.

Good luck to all you Pingu players who can afford to play and also have monster roaster of toons, your going to need it :)

[Shaolin85london]

Maybe it was Assassin Lilith?

Purple lilith got three green mandatory if I remember well

[Symbiote]

Maybe it was Assassin Lilith?

Nope, it was Sentinel for sure. :)
But it will be fixed (i really hope so that's the truth xD) what i saw some minutes ago in the preliminary september update..

And the costs and iron coins will be adjusted.., we will see.., i hope it will be reasonably prices. :D
not that overpriced crap atm! grml

[WastingYears81]

Will be interesting to see what the difficulty tuning will bring. Got past AA with little trouble, got to AAA (magus only) and was promptly destroyed in seconds by the teams there. Feels like AA should have been harder, or magus only against primordials and the other talismans feels a bit extreme.

Other than that I like the feature, actually use my roster and think about who in selecting against which team now.

[Blade]

Nope, it was Sentinel for sure. :)

If you take a look into the "Bugs" thread about the Gauntlet, you will find some more examples for toons wearing Talis that they normally cannot wear due to mandatory color slots. I asked there if this is a feature or a bug, but there was no reply :)

[Symbiote]

If you take a look into the "Bugs" thread about the Gauntlet, you will find some more examples for toons wearing Talis that they normally cannot wear due to mandatory color slots. I asked there if this is a feature or a bug, but there was no reply :)

Öhm i wrote this in my post? :D
That in the preliminary post they wrote that it will be fixed..

[Blade]

Öhm i wrote this in my post? :D
That in the preliminary post they wrote that it will be fixed..

You relate that to this: "Certain characters and talisman combinations will now be filtered out from the lower Grades" ?
To me this rather sounds like that we won't face magus Lilith with Destiny, Prisoner with Primordials or Alliance General with Eternal in the lower Grades.
I think having characters wearing Talis that don't fit to their Talis slots is a different story. But who knows? "Certain" can be anything... :)

[SDTull]

I've faced a S. Lilith with Eternals, which isn't as difficult as Eclipse, but still wrong. Hopefully these instances of toons with impossible talisman sets gets fixed.

[Symbiote]

You relate that to this: "Certain characters and talisman combinations will now be filtered out from the lower Grades" ?
To me this rather sounds like that we won't face magus Lilith with Destiny, Prisoner with Primordials or Alliance General with Eternal in the lower Grades.
I think having characters wearing Talis that don't fit to their Talis slots is a different story. But who knows? "Certain" can be anything... :)

Ah, what i meant was, that other characters will be fixed to..,
Sentinel Liltih was only one example of the Talisman Problem.^^

[Blade]

I've faced a S. Lilith with Eternals, which isn't as difficult as Eclipse, but still wrong. Hopefully these instances of toons with impossible talisman sets gets fixed.

Or they say it's a feature for higher difficulty LOL :)

[Moonchild-6759]

Question mainly for the people who are a good way into SS and/or SSS:

I am now done at the 8th match in SS. Of the 8 matches i've seen all 8 had prisoner with primordials. 7 of them a magus lilith with destiny and 6 of those a char with eternals.
Are this to be expected in ever single level of SS and SSS? Because i've not run out of good chars, i've run out of chars that can beat prisoner and magus lilith.

[edsel]

Question mainly for the people who are a good way into SS and/or SSS:

I am now done at the 8th match in SS. Of the 8 matches i've seen all 8 had prisoner with primordials. 7 of them a magus lilith with destiny and 6 of those a char with eternals.
Are this to be expected in ever single level of SS and SSS? Because i've not run out of good chars, i've run out of chars that can beat prisoner and magus lilith.

Same boat. I am at the 8th fight SS also worn down without characters to block effects on Lilith Destiny before getting killed by the STRONG team they set up. I too have many sharded characters left but cannot get past this specific combo. They use the same setup against us and we can only use one instance of a character in both SS and SSS as no refresh happens. So for everyone saying dupes should not be allowed in Gauntlet, they are not on many instances. I have 3 sharded Prisoners and 2 sharded Blue Liliths but can only use them in 1 out of 20 fights in the last 2 levels, which is like 1 giant level because of no refresh. I used them all at once in the same fight, so 3 Prisoners with 3 Primordial sets was great, and 2 Lilith with 2 Destiny sets is effective, but gone and I they are used again and again against my dwindling crew. Makes me expand my inventory more to run past this roadblock next week.

[ericgallucci]

Yeah gauntlet is pretty ridiculous right now. I managed to clear SS and doubt I’ll even attempt first fight of SSS due to no reset for my characters and the first fight being Doomsday, Magus Lilith, Sekhmet, Prisoner. I assume, based on the 10 SS fights, that means destiny, valor and Primordial. Basically every SS fight had Prisoner with Primordial and other characters with six sets like eternal and valor and destiny of course on basically any magus character. Every fight on SS and SSS is like fighting top 10 of arena but you have to scrounge up any character with either all red, green or yellow slots, even if their moves and passive suck. I ran out of characters that can use Primordial or give immunity and faced a team with a Prisoner and Primordials. I lost the coin flip and my whole team was inflicted with perfect corruption and none of my talisman effects were there, like double HP from valor. Without that buff my warrior imp, yup that was my last all red slot character, got killed in the first round and I had no way of recovering obviously because my whole team had perfect corruption. Opposing team also had 100% critical stike on whole team from Primordial as well. Anyway when I first heard about gauntlet I thought it was going to be take your best team and face waves of opponents, you know, like an actual gauntlet, not this crap where we are forced to talisman swap after every damn fight.

[Kamuz24z]

Question mainly for the people who are a good way into SS and/or SSS:

I am now done at the 8th match in SS. Of the 8 matches i've seen all 8 had prisoner with primordials. 7 of them a magus lilith with destiny and 6 of those a char with eternals.
Are this to be expected in ever single level of SS and SSS? Because i've not run out of good chars, i've run out of chars that can beat prisoner and magus lilith.

I got 7 teams with prisoner on SS and the first team from SSS also has Prisoner as well if this is going to be the standard for gauntlet in the higher floors I can see many players getting demotivated i think we need some variety and the use of all characters as well it doesn’t have to be only Prisoner and primordial- golem, golden son, new born can also use primordials.
On a different note Shaolinlondo how did you get passed the stuck bug I always get it once I get to SSS im in the same scenario again unable to compete

[Shaolin85london]

I got 7 teams with prisoner on SS and the first team from SSS also has Prisoner as well if this is going to be the standard for gauntlet in the higher floors I can see many players getting demotivated i think we need some variety and the use of all characters as well it doesn’t have to be only Prisoner and primordial- golem, golden son, new born can also use primordials.
On a different note Shaolinlondo how did you get passed the stuck bug I always get it once I get to SSS im in the same scenario again unable to compete

I don't really know, but I overtook the stuck only after I changed one of the allies, swapping from golden chopper to assasin warlord. After that match I haven't got any other stuck, I managed to complete sss first time, then I got other 10 sss matches this time with Osiris in the enemies strings.

[Kaz_LOTB]

I got 7 teams with prisoner on SS and the first team from SSS also has Prisoner as well if this is going to be the standard for gauntlet in the higher floors I can see many players getting demotivated i think we need some variety and the use of all characters as well it doesn’t have to be only Prisoner and primordial- golem, golden son, new born can also use primordials.
On a different note Shaolinlondo how did you get passed the stuck bug I always get it once I get to SSS im in the same scenario again unable to compete

If you have any screen shots or additional information you could provide about this issue, I can pass it along to the dev team. A few questions I have:

• Do you get the freeze when you press the battle button or after that?
• Do you happen to have a screen shot of the specific battle where you are running into the issue?
• Do you know which characters / talismans you are entering the battle with?

Thanks.

-Kaz

[Kamuz24z]

If you have any screen shots or additional information you could provide about this issue, I can pass it along to the dev team. A few questions I have:

• Do you get the freeze when you press the battle button or after that?
• Do you happen to have a screen shot of the specific battle where you are running into the issue?
• Do you know which characters / talismans you are entering the battle with?

Thanks.

-Kaz

I sent those screenshots via support last week unfortunately I can’t post pics using my phone

I get the freeze when I press the battle button

Sometimes I’m able to do 3 fights after reset and after 3 battles the bug takes effect again but is not always the case last cycle I have the issue for about 4 days in a row
I tried with different toons and talismans it doesn’t help
If you want me to send those again I will just let me know

[Kaz_LOTB]

I sent those screenshots via support last week unfortunately I can’t post pics using my phone

I get the freeze when I press the battle button

Sometimes I’m able to do 3 fights after reset and after 3 battles the bug takes effect again but is not always the case last cycle I have the issue for about 4 days in a row
I tried with different toons and talismans it doesn’t help
If you want me to send those again I will just let me know

Okay, no worries. I will just follow up with our CS then.

Thanks!

-Kaz

[Kamuz24z]

Okay, no worries. I will just follow up with our CS then.

Thanks!

-Kaz

A video might be better than some screenshots
https://youtu.be/AIALPbENsTY

[Kaz_LOTB]

A video might be better than some screenshots
https://youtu.be/AIALPbENsTY

Thanks, that is helpful. I think this specific issue might actually already be fixed for the next update, but I'll have to check and see.

-Kaz

[edsel]

Hi Kaz, perhaps you could detune the repetitive overpowered teams on SS / SSS that are unplayable for 99+% of us please? I love the Gauntlet being a hard challenge but as it is now the setup is nearly impossible.

[Kaz_LOTB]

Hi Kaz, perhaps you could detune the repetitive overpowered teams on SS / SSS that are unplayable for 99+% of us please? I love the Gauntlet being a hard challenge but as it is now the setup is nearly impossible.

Yep. We are looking at ways to add more variety there. That will likely be part of the October update as well.

-Kaz

[Killljoy-8322]

Hi I just got my rewards for last weeks gauntlet I i'm missing 1 ghost talisman I thought I should of got 4 how can I check and also who can I contact about this?
Thanks

[Killljoy-8322]

Don't know if this ha been asked before but the cost of battles in Gauntlet is very high like 7+ SoW and with Arena events happening now will the timer of SoW be lowered as 60 mins per SoW feels a bit out of touch with the current game.
Unless of course this is purely a money making scam on players,just a thought 🤔

[Ip4]

why Devs not disable gauntlet before they fix many thing in there?

[Liebhild]

why Devs not disable gauntlet before they fix many thing in there?

It is in BETA state

(which is more than the rest of LotBugs, PreAlpha or so)

[Killljoy-8322]

WTF!!!!!!!
Looked at the rewards for this weeks Gauntlet before I cleared F rank and now they've all different now WTF is going on with this sh*t .
How can the rewards be changed during an event if this is how things are going then they can go screw themselves sideways,

[Nicko]

WTF!!!!!!!
Looked at the rewards for this weeks Gauntlet before I cleared F rank and now they've all different now WTF is going on with this sh*t .
How can the rewards be changed during an event if this is how things are going then they can go screw themselves sideways,

Weird - mine still look the same - based around Power Talismans. What do you see has changed?

[Leviathan]

Hello everyone!

We have temporarily disabled Gauntlet while we work to address a few issues that have emerged with the newest update.

We'll keep you posted regarding when it will be reinstated.

Cheers \m/

[kgk56]

Leviathan, I was at level A this week... will the recovery resume my Position or I lose all ?

[Germany]

So, has the gauntlet been re-released yet? I ask because I was part of the beta players and was on level A when this was pulled before I had a chance to go through it.

[edsel]

[QUOTE=Germany;81647]So, has the gauntlet been re-released yet? I ask because I was part of the beta players and was on level A when this was pulled before I had a chance to go through it.

Yes, please update Gauntlet avaability. Hoping to continue my run before reset to level up rewards.

[Killljoy-8322]

So as this fortnights Gauntlet has been cancelled midway most players will be short on getting the talismans my thinking is as this is completely NF's fault they should compensate the players who have taken part with a full set of talismans and commensurate rewards for the levels.

Anyone disagree??

[Ancient Mariner]

I guess they will let us start again from where we were when they removed gauntlet, giving us the time to play before the next reset.

By the way, no news about the gauntlet status?

[Deathbat6120]

I guess they will let us start again from where we were when they removed gauntlet, giving us the time to play before the next reset.

By the way, no news about the gauntlet status?

I'm thinking that they might just hold off until when it would next reset, so that it would start fresh, but that's not really fair for those who poured a lot of SoW into it before it was shut off.
Hoping that we'll hear something soon..

[Ancient Mariner]

I'm thinking that they might just hold off until when it would next reset, so that it would start fresh, but that's not really fair for those who poured a lot of SoW into it before it was shut off.
Hoping that we'll hear something soon..

Yeah, and also consider those like me who haven't gone too far to concentrate on arena event first, who missed all the next rewards they could have earned, like the heroic frags which I intended to get.

In case of a total reset I think we needed another compensation...

I hope this is not gonna happen anyway

[Porron87]

My guess in case gauntlet is not back these days es that they will compensate players according to the level they had reached before they cancelled it. Or maybe with free fights if it's back just a few days before the reset.

[Deathbat6120]

Yeah, and also consider those like me who haven't gone too far to concentrate on arena event first, who missed all the next rewards they could have earned, like the heroic frags which I intended to get.

In case of a total reset I think we needed another compensation...

I hope this is not gonna happen anyway

Same here, I went and completed a few grades for frags and things, then went ahead on the Arena because, oh look, even more talismans. Then boom, down Gauntlet goes. Honestly, even if it's only up for like a day or two before reset, I don't care, I just wanna try and at least get something.
If not, I certainly hope we get something more than just "Ooops, sorry 'bout that."

[Alvorada]

If I remember, there was other resets on gauntlet, with no compensation to players/testers.

[edsel]

Hello everyone!

We have temporarily disabled Gauntlet while we work to address a few issues that have emerged with the newest update.

We'll keep you posted regarding when it will be reinstated.

Cheers \m/


Yes only 5 days since Gauntlet gone, seems longer. I know you have your hands full with Arena and Sacrifice freezes...impatiently waiting for my favorite feature return.

[TheAlbatross-1864]

Devs, can we please get an update on the guantlet status? Do we have an eta yet or is it still figured out? Thanks

[OdoyleRules]

We just have a little over a month before production slows down. Oct 17th is country wide legalization for mary jane in Canada. Hopefully the Gauntlet is back and the 'hot fixes' are issued to perfection.

[edsel]

We just have a little over a month before production slows down. Oct 17th is country wide legalization for mary jane in Canada. Hopefully the Gauntlet is back and the 'hot fixes' are issued to perfection.

So in honor of the great Bob and Doug McKenzie: Take off you hoser, So do we get 420 ironite then eh?

[OdoyleRules]

So in honor of the great Bob and Doug McKenzie: Take off you hoser, So do we get 420 ironite then eh?

LOL - Strange Brew must not be watched sober.

[Symbiote]

Character Fragment Event, featuring the DEBUT Magus Soulless Demon

Power Talismans are Green talismans with a 3 set effect that is not available anywhere else! Equip a full set to gain a Power Shield for 2 turns at the start of battle. Power Shield reduces 25% of damage and generates Power when hit.
"not available anywhere else anymore!"

Maybe this the answer for our process with the actual Gauntlet rewards, when they disabled it because they broke it.., again...
Now we can't get our Power Talismans from Gauntlet rewards for "free"/ironite.., but we can BUY it with REAL MONEY.

Awesome.., they really kidding us..,
That's the reason why i NEVER throw only one cent to them and i never will!
If they would deliver a product which worked maybe.., even Indie Developer with a smaller budget and smaller teams, sometimes only 1-3 people give the players better updates.., BUGFREE.., here we get EVERY update MORE AND MORE new Bugs.., AND they really think that this derserves money..,

LotB really stands for "Legacy of the Bugs"



Edit: Ok! Gauntlet is back.., and now we have still <5 days to get the power Talis.., that really ok, maybe i raged to quickly? xD

[Leviathan]

Hi everyone!

The Gauntlet Beta has been switched back on!

We've solved the leaderboard issues that emerged last week. Please note that you may see some fluctuations in the leaderboard over the next few days as each player's leaderboard position will not be updated until they log in.

Please note that you will need to download the latest update (released yesterday) from the App/Google Play store in order to play Gauntlet.

[rags-6094]

Thanks for bringing back the gauntlet, much more reasonable cost on sow and fair rewards for our efforts.
I have managed to work my through AA thus far without a loss. I tossed 5 heroic souls in and finally after two years pulled The Prisoner, very happy with that!

[Blade]

Hi everyone!

The Gauntlet Beta has been switched back on!

We've solved the leaderboard issues that emerged last week. Please note that you may see some fluctuations in the leaderboard over the next few days as each player's leaderboard position will not be updated until they log in.

Please note that you will need to download the latest update (released yesterday) from the App/Google Play store in order to play Gauntlet.

Hello!
First of all: many thanks for returning the Gauntlet! And also that it is still about the same prices. The fact that the same talismans are now available in the shop for real money has caused some confusion and disgruntlement among the players.

But I would also like to express a few constructive thoughts, why I am a little unhappy with the procedure.

1) "leaderboard issues" does not hit the nail on the head. Yes, there were problems with the leaderboard, but not only that. The class requirement was different and especially the SoW costs were not calculated correctly. Why is this concealed?
2) "that emerged last week" is not correct. These problems were not caused by a miracle, or because a rat broke the cable, were they? Only a bad update (in my eyes the worst of all times) of yours was to blame for it. Why is this kept secret? At least a sincere "apology" would have been a sign of great character. That's exactly what the next point is about:
3) Why didn't you extend the time to reset? It's not the fault of the players that the Gauntlet was down for about a week now. Only the update was responsible. So it would have been absolutely fair if you had added the lost week again.

I think we are all happy that the Gauntlet is back. Most of the players here have proven to be patient, indulgent people. But it's also clear that we're all very sad about what's been happening to the game here in part lately. Besides, you're mostly dealing with mature people who have been big fans of the best band in the world for decades! And these people are appreciative for a fair interaction with each other. Thank you very much, good luck for the next events and updates and up the Irons!

[kgk56]

And stupidly I bought the pack yesterday to get the talismans (Avenger & Power), thinking the Gauntlet won't get back... I don't ask for a Redeem, but...

[Shaolin85london]

First of all thanks for bringing back the gauntlet. The leaderboard has been fixed as promised however seems like to ignore the battles wins. For example I was at 54 and I won 2 battles at sss rank which supposed to take me at 56 but it didn't. Either it doesn't count on achievement. Can you please look into this, many thanks

[natasar]

Same here - stuck with only the five wins I had prior to the gauntlet temporarily being disabled, despite progressing a couple ranks in the meantime.

[desprezo]

3) Why didn't you extend the time to reset? It's not the fault of the players that the Gauntlet was down for about a week now. Only the update was responsible. So it would have been absolutely fair if you had added the lost week again.


My thoughts exactly.

[Rene-gate]

Hello Guys! May not the best place to ask help.... but anyone have idea in stage A or better what need use. ? if send me pm, i will be really happy . Thank You and up the Irons!

[EnricoPalazzo]

Thanks for bringing it back.
I have to say though that the difficulty level has been ridiculously low so far, at least in the stages up to A (I have not advanced further).
This is not something that was changed during the downtime, but was evident since beginning of the third "season".
Much of the fun was that you really had to think who to chose and who to save for the next battle, figuring out how to make weak characters win by combining their strengths.
Now you can just waltz through the battles with any combination of lvl 100 chars, provided they have a good talisman set, since the opponents are so weak.
Lvl 60 4-stars should not be opponents in Gauntlet, this kills the fun for me.
No real challenge anymore...

[mikmar]

Thanks for bringing it back.
I have to say though that the difficulty level has been ridiculously low so far, at least in the stages up to A (I have not advanced further).
This is not something that was changed during the downtime, but was evident since beginning of the third "season".
Much of the fun was that you really had to think who to chose and who to save for the next battle, figuring out how to make weak characters win by combining their strengths.
Now you can just waltz through the battles with any combination of lvl 100 chars, provided they have a good talisman set, since the opponents are so weak.
Lvl 60 4-stars should not be opponents in Gauntlet, this kills the fun for me.
No real challenge anymore...

I disagree, there are many players that doesn't have so much power to fight in the gauntlet, and before the patch, the first levels were too hard. The difficulty raise in the way it should be I think

[90mphyorker]

Gauntlet is still missing for me.

Anyone else experiencing this? I have tge latest update on my phone.

[EnricoPalazzo]

Maybe we should have different grades then, like in the PVE battles, easy, hard and madness.
For someone who has a big roster of powerful toons, slugging his way through the first stages currently is boring and costly.
I play for the fun of being handed a challenge, the rewards come second for me.
If gauntlet only gets interesting after investing 50 IC and an hour of boredom, I don't think I'll keep playing it, the cost vs fun is too high.

[edsel]

Wins aren't registering, I am listed at 40/40 although more have been won and went from grade S to SS. Thank you for reducing cost and in raising iron coin reward, still having impossible character combos like this set of Primordials on Sekhmet. Bad enuf to have my character roster increasingly limited as I struggle against the worst nightmare team combos you can dream up, but we should play by the same character rules instead of you configuring your team in ways we cannot and increasing my already extreme disadvantage and frustration. Seems like now only one player can get past SS Grade, should this be dialed back so more of us can complete/compete?4880

[Kaz_LOTB]

Wins aren't registering, I am listed at 40/40 although more have been won and went from grade S to SS. Thank you for reducing cost and in raising iron coin reward, still having impossible character combos like this set of Primordials on Sekhmet. Bad enuf to have my character roster increasingly limited as I struggle against the worst nightmare team combos you can dream up, but we should play by the same character rules instead of you configuring your team in ways we cannot and increasing my already extreme disadvantage and frustration. Seems like now only one player can get past SS Grade, should this be dialed back so more of us can complete/compete?4880

There is indeed an issue with win counts not updating. We'll be looking to get a fix out for this today, if possible.

-Kaz

[mjmxiii]

Gauntlet is a more enjoyable than PVP in my opinion, the grind feels more rewarding. Difficulty levels getting lowered in early rounds seems to be for someone that doesn't have 200 maxed chars. Makes sense. A very strange thing I notice, at least on my side, is that bugs don't seem to be an issue like they are in PVP. Am I the only person seeing that and if others have less bugs in Gauntlet, why can't PVP be like that??

[kkkreg5]

There is indeed an issue with win counts not updating. We'll be looking to get a fix out for this today, if possible.

-Kaz

Are these "issues" bleeding into other aspects of the game? Had two instances where I completed skull quests Talisman Cache and Hoard, both times the opponents are out and my team just stared. No box drop. Satellite 15 showed rewards but had same server error both times. Error code: INTRO2

[Symbiote]

And stupidly I bought the pack yesterday to get the talismans (Avenger & Power), thinking the Gauntlet won't get back... I don't ask for a Redeem, but...

I think, they achieved what they wanted too.. ^^

[Leviathan]

Hi everyone,

Sorry for the late post, but we pushed a sever this afternoon to address the following issues in the Gauntlet:

• Wins not counting up on the leaderboard
• Losses not affecting your leaderboard ranking

These have both been fixed. However, there is still a visual bug that will occur if you lose a match. The win count will not update immediately. It will only update when you win another battle or relaunch the game. We look forward to getting this fixed in the next client release.

Cheers \m/

[thealchemist]

Grade AAA seems to be my limit with the single class restriction, as soon as I have a loss I am severely hampered. Going up against Primordial, Destiny and Eternal talismans only using a single class is pushing my roster.....

I am quite sure the Grim Reaper Eddie on AAA had primordials, if so how is that possible????

[Rene-gate]

may i am poor player, and have crap chars.... but really funny if u think will use "strong" chars in section A.....and mobs killed under 1 round ( 4 times.... and 90 % is fully skilled and lvl50 talismans...) any idea? use my gun?

[SDTull]

Grade AAA seems to be my limit with the single class restriction, as soon as I have a loss I am severely hampered. Going up against Primordial, Destiny and Eternal talismans only using a single class is pushing my roster.....

I am quite sure the Grim Reaper Eddie on AAA had primordials, if so how is that possible????

You're not the first player to encounter opposing toons with impossible talisman sets. Sentinel Lilith has been encountered with Eclipse and Eternals.

[Yup]

Y'all are assuming NF is playing fair.. it's like expecting a casino to make odds favorable to gamblers. That's not how NF operates.

[Ancient Mariner]

The fact that the AI teams have talismans sets wwhich shouldn't be on certain characters is annoying not just because of the unbalance, but also because you can't figure that before fighting that team for the first time, which may cost you a loss, losing the chars you brought in battle, etc...

That's why i keep suggesting at least to show in the preview window of the enemy team you're going to fight, the complete stats that characters have, like it happens if you hold on your own soldiers. This way we won't know which talismans they have equipped, but we could guess them and have an idea.

Anyway like others asked already, the AI chars should be able to wear the same talismans we can set for them.
If you want us to face a team with specific talismans sets, just set the chars that can equip them

[edsel]

The fact that the AI teams have talismans sets wwhich shouldn't be on certain characters is annoying not just because of the unbalance, but also because you can't figure that before fighting that team for the first time, which may cost you a loss, losing the chars you brought in battle, etc...

That's why i keep suggesting at least to show in the preview window of the enemy team you're going to fight, the complete stats that characters have, like it happens if you hold on your own soldiers. This way we won't know which talismans they have equipped, but we could guess them and have an idea.

Anyway like others asked already, the AI chars should be able to wear the same talismans we can set for them.
If you want us to face a team with specific talismans sets, just set the chars that can equip them
OR erase talisman restrictions for us in Gauntlet to level playing advantage, 3rd fight in SS has Sehkmet with Primordial
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[Symbiote]

Hey that's the way how they fix things. :D :D

[HuckFinn150]

My roster is not good enough to get past AA. I'm 2 battles from completing it and due to losses and limited toons I'm stuck. Oh well, maybe eventually I'll have enough. I'm up to 73 unique characters.

[90mphyorker]

I think I made it to SSS this week?

It says I’m only in SS but I got an achievement saying I cleared SS and the next achievement for me is to clear SSS, so I’m guessing I’m in SSS?

Anyway, I very like the changes to Gauntlet. The difficulty decrease by having more varied teams and Talismans in SS was great. Much more enjoyable not facing wave after wave of Liliths with Destiny and Prisoners with Primordials. The increase in Iron Coins for victory is the best thing though. Actually makes it worth the effort now.

Toin coss is still shit, especially on ordered battle grades, but that’s just this game. It’ll never change and you just have to deal with it.

Reached a brick wall now as I only have the old school characters left and they are no match for Horus, Icarus, Osiris and PoM. Even with the Eternal, Primordeal or any of the top Talismans they just don’t have good enough skill sets to clear them.

[Stormseye]

So Angel Talismans in Gauntlet now. Guess my hand has been forced and I must participate. Expect another shift in PVP meta as the week goes on and more people include them in builds.

[Symbiote]

Yeah AWESOME

Did you get your rewards? I didn't!
What a surpirse.., that nothing works how it should to...

Would be cool to get my rewards for the gauntlet that ended..,

I reach Rank #77, Grade S, Tier II,
yeah and got NOTHING!.., great fixing guys..,

[Blade]

I got my rewards for both, Arena and Gauntlet (#76, haha^^). But I had a row of about 5 weeks where I did not receive the Arena rewards.
Solution for me was to log out from my account, restart the app and log in again. Maybe it would be even better to force quit the app first, clear the cache of your phone and reboot the phone before you do the log-out-log-in thing!
I hope that helps!

[Blade]

P.S. the Ranking for "Last week" and the tab "Troopers" is still bugged. But I am not sure if this interesting enough for a fix... I mean the statistics for Arena are bugged since years (always showing 0/0 attacks and not counting correctly for "best"). Cheers!

[Ip4]

this is last time i enter in this stupid retarded gauntlet....99% enemy playing first and always stan all my time unlimited time...and now can't finish last battle in AA,fuck you stupid game!!!

[Blade]

this is last time i enter in this stupid retarded gauntlet....99% enemy playing first and always stan all my time unlimited time...and now can't finish last battle in AA,fuck you stupid game!!!

What?? 14 days left and you are finished already? Quick and dirty, eh? ;)
What's the class restriction this time?

[Ip4]

G/A my best class but shit gauntlet is against me...

[Stormseye]

Its Gunner and Assassin. Should be a cake walk for all your Primordial owners. AAA is only Gunners.

[Blade]

Thanks for the info, guys! G/A give several opions for immunity and cleanse... we will see :)
But this will make me shard several new Eddies, I have only 2 Eds of both classes sharded by now!

@Ip4: maybe you equip your teams a bit too offensive? At least if you don't win the coin toss...

[Symbiote]

I got my rewards for both, Arena and Gauntlet (#76, haha^^). But I had a row of about 5 weeks where I did not receive the Arena rewards.
Solution for me was to log out from my account, restart the app and log in again. Maybe it would be even better to force quit the app first, clear the cache of your phone and reboot the phone before you do the log-out-log-in thing!
I hope that helps!

Haha #76 xD Nice. :D
Oh tank you very much.., force quit and clearing cache didn't work..,
But logout and then in gave me my rewards... :)

Nice that some players here can fix things, what NF isn't able too...

NF PLEASE FIX THIS FUCKING GAME!
Why do you give a shit on all your loyal players?
Do you really want to make money in the Name of Iron Maiden?

I know you are human beings.., your artists do a great job.., but i really think.., your programmers should rethink what they are doing..,

I NEVER saw a game bugged like this..,




this is last time i enter in this stupid retarded gauntlet....99% enemy playing first and always stan all my time unlimited time...and now can't finish last battle in AA,fuck you stupid game!!!

No the game isn't stupid.., the game itself is quite nice..,
but it's so sad to see what's happening to this great game... :/
Because the people behind this, don't care... :/

[ArrRenn]

I like the gauntlet. It is less personal than PvP.

I have run into a problem. I am trying to get through the first ranking that limits my offerings. It only allows assassin/gunner, and I only have two Eddies in that area. The problem, of course, rising from the fact that there are three rounds.

Is there some way to adapt this to allow a person who has gotten through >50.1% (or, perhaps, has only one more battle to win in that round) to move forward? A temporary (promotion of a 4* Eddie of the permitted area)(permission of other area Eddie) to allow the player to continue? I have been doing really well, but I don’t have any more Eddies in the Assassin/Gunner areas – and it has been a while since I picked up a new Eddie (I was thrillified when I got my Ben Breeg!).

What do you guys think?

[Olevipoeg]

Any ideas how to beat Mystic Eddie, Daedalus, Clairvoyant, Alchemist in AA ordered battle? Clairvoyant has Destiny and all other have Invincibility up at start.

[Symbiote]

Funny thing right now.., in Gauntlet..,

"New Game Data is available. The Game has to restart" if i hadn't lost the fight right now.., i would have lose it because of this "New Game Data"-Thing..,
Wow..,

Edit: yeah and i'm done, can't go through AAA.., man this is so hard if you don't have the right chars..,
i don't like the Class Limitions.., especially if you have the limitation and the opposite can have Chars from every class.., it's a bit.., yeah.., not that great. xD

[Tim28213]

Olevipoeg-I believe I used Navigator (Crashing Rock has perfect corruption), Lilith to give Critical Stike, Hellraiser for Immunity, and either Corrupt Rescuer or Chopper. I can't recall what the last character was now. If you get lucky with corruption on them and immunity on you it is not too bad. Several energy talismans to charge up for the special abilities. TBH I have a lot of Relics invested in Gunner class so that helped a lot I'm sure.

[grigorow]

Funny thing right now.., in Gauntlet..,

"New Game Data is available. The Game has to restart" if i hadn't lost the fight right now.., i would have lose it because of this "New Game Data"-Thing..,
Wow..,



Yeah, this is the hardest part of this game. Today the game restarted 3 times, so I lost all my troopers without even fighting... I hope this get fixed ... really frustrating

[Olevipoeg]

Olevipoeg-I believe I used Navigator (Crashing Rock has perfect corruption), Lilith to give Critical Stike, Hellraiser for Immunity, and either Corrupt Rescuer or Chopper. I can't recall what the last character was now. If you get lucky with corruption on them and immunity on you it is not too bad. Several energy talismans to charge up for the special abilities. TBH I have a lot of Relics invested in Gunner class so that helped a lot I'm sure.
This is tough one. I don't have Navigator and Gunner Lilith and they took out my maxed Beast Eddie and nearly maxed Cyborg Eddie teams already. Damned Daedalus!

[Symbiote]

Yeah, this is the hardest part of this game. Today the game restarted 3 times, so I lost all my troopers without even fighting... I hope this get fixed ... really frustrating

It's one thing from alot others. :D
Nah fixing isn't part of the game, don't get your hopes up. ^^


btw. did someone notice that Night City now have a third light on the windows?
Maybe they are calling attention, that it's on the way in the next years?

[edsel]

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4198&d=1515802844

This screenshot from 2018 State of the Nation shows Night City with red 2 story bus, they will use Gang Soul characters as our opponents in this environment? Like when they released the BNW characters to us before that world was open to play. Hope this third light is indicating progress.

[Liebhild]

Hope this third light is indicating progress.

Hmmm, when I think about devs skills, I think one of them just wanted to turn the light on in his office, but accidentally turned the 3rd light on.

[Askora]

Each light stands for another year of delay. ;)

[Symbiote]

Hmmm, when I think about devs skills, I think one of them just wanted to turn the light on in his office, but accidentally turned the 3rd light on.

Haha... :D Maybe.. :D


Each light stands for another year of delay. ;)

That's possible too. :D

[Yup]

yeah but I still think the lights are on but no one's home. :)

[Symbiote]

yeah but I still think the lights are on but no one's home. :)

I don't know.., every light switches on, after some time when you stay on the World..
Maybe it's Killers Eddie who is making some trouble in Night City. :D

[GotN]

What the hell is going on with stage 1 Lv A (FotD, Horus, WCotD, Wickerman)? Is it just me or is this stage, at least for some players, unpassable atm? I’ve done all other stages on Lv A so far, but until now threw in 6 teams (!) of full sharded chars and every time the whole team got killed within 1 or 2 turns. That’s just ridiculous! As you can’t use a character twice I’ve nearly been running out of useful characters. Not to speak of the waste of SoW. Cm‘on that’s a real low level, really can not be!

[Blade]

What? Fo me, in "A" (so with 3 heroic souls as reward in the end as a milestone) the first team consists of Mummy, Assassin Buzz, Blue Corrupt Rescuer and Rocket Dog... do we have different teams to beat??
Would love to have a function to swap through the stages I completed already - any plans on this, devs?

Against the team you listed, some blocker might help plus immunity against Horus (at least first round) and maybe you can stun or blind him. Or you bring chars that can profit from being stunned.

[GotN]

What? Fo me, in "A" (so with 3 heroic souls as reward in the end as a milestone) the first team consists of Mummy, Assassin Buzz, Blue Corrupt Rescuer and Rocket Dog... do we have different teams to beat??
Would love to have a function to swap through the stages I completed already - any plans on this, devs?

Against the team you listed, some blocker might help plus immunity against Horus (at least first round) and maybe you can stun or blind him. Or you bring chars that can profit from being stunned.

Yes, that’s the correct Lv. The team you mentioned doesn’t even show up in any other stage here. So we really have to fight against different teams. Very interesting. Would be interesting to know, why it is like that and on what it depends, which teams we have to fight. Devs? Would be great to have an answer!

Thanks for the advice Blade! Will try that.


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[Muzzleloader]

What Eddie's and characters do you have left. Did you try a team that had immunity to start with, such as hellhound or gunner lilith with a life talis. A GPD with angel could get you to have immunity the second round.

[Blade]

Wow!!! I did not expect that we have to fight different teams, rather a misunderstanding about the grade we are talking about! Now this is really crazy and also unfair!? How can we be compared and ranked if we do different battles!? Really interesting...
Good luck with your battle!

[edsel]

Leviathan-Is the Gauntlet a level playing field where we are all competing against the same opponents with the same talismans, shard and relic levels? If not how is this being decided?

[Inishmore]

Yes, that’s the correct Lv. The team you mentioned doesn’t even show up in any other stage here. So we really have to fight against different teams. Very interesting. Would be interesting to know, why it is like that and on what it depends, which teams we have to fight. Devs? Would be great to have an answer!

Thanks for the advice Blade! Will try that.


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Interesting. Your teams 1-5 are my teams 2-6. But my first team consists of Trooper Eddie, Assasin Corrupt Rescuer, Sentinel Lilith and the Witch doctor. So we are definitely not facing the same teams, but almost... That is weird and interesting at the same. time???

[Liebhild]

I guess new players will only get sandworms

[trooper206]

Devs,
the mode is really challenging.Really. This makes most of us enjoy it in many ways. However, when from SS to SSS I am unable to play my OK toons more than once, while I get the same opponents with the exact same talismans in multiple instances,well, isn't this quite unfair? To face consequently teams with DDE, blue lilith, Sekhmet and prisoner, all buffed up with destiny and primordial talis, I think that demotivates, instead of making us devise a strategy. I hope you will expand the characters that compile the defense, and not having us always play against the same OP characters with OP talismans.
Thanks

[Killljoy-8322]

Another round of Gauntlet and yet again I can't play as the requirements are toons I just don't have last week we had Assassin/Gunner and this week Assassin/Warrior.
Going up against Beast Eddie,Prisoner,Azov and PDK all with stupidly high talismans is a complete waste of SoW, guess I'll go play another game and I'll see what the next pile of crap the Devs come up with in a fortnight.
If they keep on doing this BS every time I'm going to bin this game

[Rene-gate]

Section C....
Assasin Lilith, Baroness Redan, Icaros and Grim reaper Eddie.... killed 4 team ( 80 % fully skilled and around 30K hp)
Any idea ?

[Leviathan]

Hello everyone!

Thank you for your feedback during our Beta period. The Gauntlet is officially in its first Season, so we’ll be closing this thread.

If you want to continue to discuss the Gauntlet, head over to our Gauntlet post in the General Discussion section! (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10876-Official-Gauntlet-Discussion-Post).