November 2018 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Kaz_LOTB]

This is the main post to discuss tuning changes that are in an upcoming update.

You can see the details for the preliminary tuning adjustments in the Game Updates forum post (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10896-November-2018-Tuning-PRELIMINARY&p=84511#post84511).

-Kaz

[AcesHigh189]

More character and talismans slots. YAY

[rags-6094]

Looks like Samurai and Vampire Hunter Eddies are the latest to get a well deserved tweak, both have always had plenty of punch but have always been vunerable.... I wonder if this will be enough to see them back in the arena like Hallowed Eddie is currently from the tweaks last month?

[druid138]

Wow, guys! Looks really great, especially the additional character and talisman slots! Thanks!

[DanielRacy]

Great update. Happy to see avenger talisman fixed.

[thealchemist]

I definitely like -
the buffs to Samurai and VH Eds
the tweak to Grim Reaper's fury
a stat boost in stats to Onslaught and Mystical talismans.
numerous fixes
more slots
new talismans in talisman Skull Quests means they will be worth playing again
tweaks to shock and bleed effects


Not so sure about or not liking -
sorcery and skilled talisman stat changes in that they will be losing too much in their magic and attack stats (looks like you would be better off running overwhelming or ward than these)
added skill levels on the S. harpy (not that she gets used much these days)
Tweaks to Grim Reaper not going far enough imo (boost in stats are needed, more hp/magic especially to make him somewhat useful again)

Overall it looks pretty good I have to say.

[druid138]

Kaz - regarding the additional inventory slots, could you share some details on the adjusted costs? Are the costs increasing or decreasing? Or a mix of the two? Thanks!

[Kaz_LOTB]

Kaz - regarding the additional inventory slots, could you share some details on the adjusted costs? Are the costs increasing or decreasing? Or a mix of the two? Thanks!

Ironite costs will cap at 30 ironite for 5 new slots from 20 slots and above.
Gold costs will cap at 5,000,000 Gold for 5 new slots when at 210 slots or above.

-Kaz

[LegoMech]

I just want to say, thanks for capping slot costs. Also, since Samurai and Vampire Eddie are two of the four most recent Eddie pulls I had, I am super excited for this. Thanks!

[Cefiar]

Kaz: Thanks for the details. Looks like a great set of tuning.

I notice that Sandworm (yes, an original basic character) is getting Leden burn changed into Grievous burn.

Q: Does this mean that some of the "weird" burn types we see on a number of original characters will be going away (ie: Reducing the number of burn types)?

[Deathbat6120]

Very happy to see VH and Samurai getting some nice improvements, especially Samurai since he's always been my go-to Ed. Cheers!

[osiris0000]

Return of the sandworm, beware the grevious burns! Good job! ;)

[Ancient Mariner]

I hope that with the increase of slots for talismans and chars, we will have now a greater reason to see some adjustments for the menu's navigation, like for example the addition of the top/bottom buttons, to quickly go to the first and last element of the lists like i already suggested.

Hope you're also considering for the next updates some ways to quickly switch/search talismans between characters, especially for a better gauntlet gameplay experience

[blade685]

haunted pumpkins in stock and souls will lose there value to sacrifice in november update or just for next looted ?

[Lufata-7894]

There is a problem with avenger talismans where holder still reflects even after his death /Icarus for example, when he uses his passive to revive himself - he still attack foes who damage his allies/. Is this reported or going to be fixed? Thanks in advance!

[Blade]

Interesting update! Nice changes to VHE and Samurai. I hoped for a slight debuff for Hallowed, as he clearly is overpowered since the last update.
The increase in slots is very good, even if the price will be very steep with 5 Mio gold, as the cap was at 1.8 Mio before!! But ok, we have so much more gold now and can farm it more easily so this compensates. But still its a price increase of 277% just saying...
I really appreciate the Talis changes. I was a big fan of Mystical especially and also the other 2 subtpyes not focussed on damage output directly before. And they even got better, cool!
Adding some of the new Talis to the Skull Quests is a step in the right direction, but in my opinion there are still BY FAR too many Talis not available anywhere in the game - especially redemption and revenge. I hope for more BNW dungeons and levels, NC and SP soonTM ;)
Anyway, thanks guys for keeping the wheels turning!

[The Educated fool]

Return of the sandworm, beware the grevious burns! Good job! ;)

It is actually a very sad day for this mighty worm, good Osi! His uniqueness, his shine, his very SMILE is to be stripped in this coming update! :cool: #NoToUnleaded #SavetheWorms

[Daviangers]

BIG agree on menu/interface updates. It was fine imo but as more and more characters/talis are being released (talis especially) we are really due for an improved sorting/management system.

Also fix the issue (intentional or not) where powering up talis makes you lose your spot in the selection menu (really makes things time consuming)

[Liebhild]

No fix for the broken toon setup again?

[blade685]

haunted pumpkins in stock and souls will lose there value to sacrifice in november update or just for next looted ?

the value in sacrifice will change or not :)

[Patrice-1201]

Yes the current pump inks will loose their essence boost in November. Fry’em now

[GotN]

Since the update I have noticed that I constantly have only 9 opponents in my PvP attack list. Is this intended to be like this? Did they reduce it? Or is it a bug?

[thealchemist]

Since the pumpkins are gonna lose their essence value, is there any chance we could get a heads up of when the update is going to go live? I have a few pumpkins and I was hoping to keep them for my defense team to be festive etc, as well as for the arena event coming up...so if I have to burn em I'd like to know when I need to do it by if possible.

To be on the safe side I'll probably burn my assassin and gunner pumpkins as they have the most essence to lose and I'll still have enough warrior and sentinel pumpkins for a defense.

[blade685]

it is stupid to change the value for the pumpkin we have in stock....NF....i kept them for next sacrifice event.....

[ericgallucci]

I can’t believe that’s the only buff Grim is receiving. All his power moves need revamping and his past basic heals decent amount to himself only but damage is pathetic. Also his damage scaling with skill shards are some of the lowest in the game for most of his moves. His stats need buffing too. His HP is almost identical to Rainmaker but his magic is only 943 and Rainmaker has over 1,700 for both attack and magic. Really disappointed cause he was my first natural five star Eddie. I’ve played since day one just I use to have terrible luck with souls. He needs a ton of work to be relevant and only increasing revived teammates hp from fury is a joke.

[DanielRacy]

I still have hope that someday NF will make Grim Reaper a beast. He deserves it. I sharded him dreaming of this.. ahahahaj

[Deathbat6120]

I agree that Grim Reaper should be getting much more of a buff tbh. He does have quite a bit of potential, but he just really needs that push. I sharded him the moment I got him, yet I've barely ever used him since, which is a real shame.

[DanielRacy]

Right Deathbat? I mean, he is the fucking Grim Reaper, he can't be that useless. Come on NF.

[Wyphy]

Right Deathbat? I mean, he is the fucking Grim Reaper, he can't be that useless. Come on NF.

I think he needs a new skill called "Salmon Mousse"?

[Peppoah]

Since the pumpkins are gonna lose their essence value, is there any chance we could get a heads up of when the update is going to go live? I have a few pumpkins and I was hoping to keep them for my defense team to be festive etc, as well as for the arena event coming up...so if I have to burn em I'd like to know when I need to do it by if possible.

To be on the safe side I'll probably burn my assassin and gunner pumpkins as they have the most essence to lose and I'll still have enough warrior and sentinel pumpkins for a defense.
I won’t burn the golden pumpkin as he’s a golden blocker. There aren’t any other golden blockers around, so he can be useful in gauntlet. I would keep at least one of them.

[blade685]

i keep one of them, and must open all souls, update dupes to level 80, sacrifice all without any event because of nf :(

[Liebhild]

I hoped for a slight debuff for Hallowed, as he clearly is overpowered since the last update.


+1

Such braindead changes only NF can make.

[blade685]

+1

Such braindead changes only NF can make.

for me he is not more OP than DDE (the 2 only good in pvp now), he is fine like that or they must nerf all good eddies ? no just up shitty eddies NF :)

[DanielRacy]

for me he is not more OP than DDE (the 2 only good in pvp now), he is fine like that or they must nerf all good eddies ? no just up shitty eddies NF :)

I agree, don't nerf them, just buff the weak eddies.

[HuckFinn150]

I'd love to be able to play my old Eddie's. As of now, I can't due to them getting wiped out too quick. I tried Aces High today in the normal level of the false mask and he devistates it until the boss level. The count and madam keep him asleep until he's dead. I can run him manually, but who has time for that. They need to get the ai to work the auto play better...

[thealchemist]

I won’t burn the golden pumpkin as he’s a golden blocker. There aren’t any other golden blockers around, so he can be useful in gauntlet. I would keep at least one of them.

Oops too late now. Although I am still not sure I would have used it in gauntlet but oh well its no longer an option now haha.