March, Part 2 - 2019 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Kaz_LOTB]

This is the main post to discuss tuning changes that are in an upcoming update.

You can see the details for the preliminary tuning adjustments in the Game Updates forum post (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?11574-March-Part-2-2019-Tuning-PRELIMINARY&p=95392#post95392).

[Zantarath]

fairly strong talismans
alchemy is gonna be very fun on them magus shinobi hopefully it transform silvers to make universe extra fun
buff for radiant and fix for fortune set is very good move

all hail sands increase!

generally welcoming changes

meta is gonna shift a lot with these talismans around combined with previously mentioned Labyrinth and Final Frontier sets

[druid138]

Wow, guys - nicely done! So many of the recent concerns here are being addressed - thanks!

[Amarthir]

Wow just throw away the alchemist for a 5 set blue Talismans lmao.

It's an unexpected but nice change to go from 80 SoT to 120. Very cool. Quick question though... Will the refills be changed as well? As in you get a 120 SoT refill and a 600 SoT mega refill?

[Olevipoeg]

Can you please fix sort order by class in Gauntlet matchup screen? Actually other sort orders doesn't work also. Please?

[slauki]

FUCK YEAH A STAMINA INCREASE, finally!!!!! thank you for this 120 sot will be just perfect

[Liebhild]

Will you decrease the defense bonus with this update or again increase it like you did with the last update.

And don't tell that you didn't and that this bonus doesn't exist.

[slauki]

Will you decrease the defense bonus with this update or again increase it like you did with the last update.

And don't tell that you didn't and that this bonus doesn't exist.

bro it's common in these games that defenses have some stat boost to make up for the dumb moves the ai makes. this will never change and i get the frustration, but it is what it is. if they didn't change it yet, they never will...in strike force it's proven that this is the case and i'm sure it is here as well..

[GotN]

FUCK YEAH A STAMINA INCREASE, finally!!!!! thank you for this 120 sot will be just perfect

So right bro! Now I can sleep 10 hours again without missing any SoT 😴😝😂

Nice changes guys! Thank you very much!

[slauki]

a slight decrease in gold costs for opening souls would be appreciated though. i get the gold bottleneck goal, but i feel you slightly overtuned the costs, since it's frustrating if guys cannot open souls due to gold shortage...


So right bro! Now I can sleep 10 hours again without missing any SoT ������

Nice changes guys! Thank you very much!

hehe exactly :) yeah i fought for this before my departure, really happy to see this implemented now. the game is definetly on a better way nowadays...

[WickermanBR]

uow, cool to see some improvements in terms of SoT and gold in Night City, maybe with that Lord of the Flies become a good place to get gold faster. We'll see...

I think the Fortunes talismans are the most scrambled I have ever seen.

There is an update that could already be in the air, just to compensate a little, the damage that the last caused so many players.

[Esquatcho]

a slight decrease in gold costs for opening souls would be appreciated though. i get the gold bottleneck goal, but i feel you slightly overtuned the costs, since it's frustrating if guys cannot open souls due to gold shortage...


This! At least rares should be a heeeaaapppp cheaper. Please NF!

By my calcs, if an epic is 75k and rares have a ~1/10 chance of getting a 4*, then rares should only be 7.5k to drop each. When you need a whole SoT (old max) of grind to drop 10 measly rares, its completely imbalanced.

But still have to say a huge thanks for increasing the stamina max to 120!!!

[Yup]

Might.. MIGHT.. make Night City worth playing more than once with the new gold returns.

SOT increase is a new tough and long overdue..

[Alvorada]

I don't think they will tune the price for opening souls.

The increased gold in Night City and max SoT are they response for that question.

[Ip4]

will be great if they increase player level,we are few years on lv100 :(

[Blade]

Oh look - this time it is possible to give us a pop up message about the upcoming update in contrast to last time? Interesting!

[Ip4]

when can we expect update about upgrading SOT to 120?

[Blade]

In 1 hour from now

[GotN]

when can we expect update about upgrading SOT to 120?

Last week Kaz said „late next week“. So that should be... now.

[Ip4]

that's great news :)

[Intimidator]

In 1 hour??
Well, I guess that I’m done playing this evening. I’m on iOS ;)

[scott-5496]

Yeah I needed a break from farming anyway. Still it gives me a day away from the screen - well I will swap this screen for the TV and watch something instead....Fear the Walking Dead tonight followed ny Motley Crue the Dirt on netflix.....

[zamasu]

Update is live on Android but no notes?

What do the New talismans do? Firepower?

[Sidney]

I have to say that the SoT adjustment is very much appreciated!! I logged in and updated the game before I got a chance to read the list of changes and when I saw the 120 adjustment to SoT I was praying it wasn't a mistake and was here to stay. Thanks again for that!!

[Blade]

First impression:
- pay only new talisman (don't know what it does)
- pay only new character (is not in souls, I checked)
- SoT refill does not say how much you get
- Mega SoT refill still gives 400 at same cost as before ??

[Blade]

- and someone found a severe management bug in the My Team: click (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?11602-My-Team-Screen-Character-Scrolling)

- Just got a freeze in the first Dungeon run since the update...

[kkkreg5]

I can get with purchasing characters if the price is kept reasonable. I think it's a good way to generate income. Pay if you want, don't if you don't. Choice is yours. No RNG heartburn!!

[slauki]

First impression:
- Mega SoT refill still gives 400 at same cost as before ??

that's a nice revenue strategy, buy 5 and get 3 :D

but to be fair: normal refills give 120 sot now, that's huge

[Ip4]

cosmic wolf have awesome power animation :)

last mission in Night City really give near 20k gold...on madness.

[Ancient Mariner]

- and someone found a severe management bug in the My Team: click (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?11602-My-Team-Screen-Character-Scrolling)


man! I just saw this and i think it's the worst new ever...it already takes way too much to navigate the team without some buttons to quickly go to a specific cathegory or to the top/bottom of the roster (which i hoped they would have added with the update)

...and instead now we have to scroll all the list back where we were after quitting a character's talismans tab everytime? Madness... this will make us waste even more time everytime just to scroll between the team, way way too annoying... at the point that i'm starting to get pissed to play cause of this neverending scrolling

We seriously need something to solve this, which is such a simple improvement by the way that would make our gaming experience much better...i dont get why they don't add some options to do it :/

I hope they are reading this and finally add at least 2 simple buttons to let us manage the team in acceptable time

[AM1982]

I just completed 100 runs of dungeon but... where the hell is my magus legendary soul, hellfire frags and ironite? Devs explain please !!!!
And I restarted the game a few times.

Edit: reinstalled the game, still no rewards...

[GotN]

I just completed 100 runs of dungeon but... where the hell is my magus legendary soul, hellfire frags and ironite? Devs explain please !!!!
And I restarted the game a few times.

Edit: reinstalled the game, still no rewards...

They won’t explain it here. You have to submit a ticket to support.

[HuckFinn150]

First impression:
- pay only new talisman (don't know what it does)
- pay only new character (is not in souls, I checked)
- SoT refill does not say how much you get
- Mega SoT refill still gives 400 at same cost as before ??
Did you notice? Viking Eddie and Kari are 3* by this pay option. I hope they didn't get devalued to 3* in the preexisting characters.

[URock]

Update is live, but Night City doesn't give more gold?

[Liu]

My 2 cents on the update.
- Focused almost all of their dev power on visual upgrades
- None of the major bugs are addressed
- introduced at least 2 new bugs (event challenges not awarding, new scrolling bug in the my team scream)

[Esquatcho]

A regular refill is 120, so it a mega really still only 400!? Usually if you pay more, you get more!

[Esquatcho]

OK, this bug with arena defence team resetting is really starting to make me upset now!

Also is there some sort of ongoing server issues? I seem to be getting errors pretty regularly... And I get the daily rewards showing up every single time I enter the app

[Rain88]

Props for finally increasing SOT.
I agree with what's been said... soul summoning gold cost should be decreased, especially the ridiculous amount of gold and the worthless summons for epic souls.

[Esquatcho]

Props for finally increasing SOT.
I agree with what's been said... soul summoning gold cost should be decreased, especially the ridiculous amount of gold and the worthless summons for epic souls.

At least with the epics you get mythical shards + 4* is decent sac fodder. Plus coloured epics are good for getting certain 4* chars you need.

But to have the cost of rare souls 1/3 of epics, when the 'value' of them is only 10% is my biggest issue.

[Liebhild]

If NF is not at the office on the weekend, releasing an update at the end of the week is a very good idea.

Again an awesome job!

[kkkreg5]

A regular refill is 120, so it a mega really still only 400!? Usually if you pay more, you get more!

"More for more" was never the case with a Mega fill. You received 400 SOT for 150 Ironite. It was the same as doing 5 separate 30 Ironite refills. 30 × 5 = 150. 5 × 80 = 400. With Friday's update you do receive 120 SOT for 30 Ironite. Just fill as needed at 30 a pop since you can continually fill and stay away from the mega fill.

[Esquatcho]

"More for more" was never the case with a Mega fill. You received 400 SOT for 150 Ironite. It was the same as doing 5 separate 30 Ironite refills. 30 × 5 = 150. 5 × 80 = 400. With Friday's update you do receive 120 SOT for 30 Ironite. Just fill as needed at 30 a pop since you can continually fill and stay away from the mega fill.

Yeah, what I meant was having more worth less is just completely crazy. At least before, you saved yourself a few clicks!

[Symbiote]

Please fix as soon as possible the SoT MEGA Refill!

Why do they always think half the way when they change something in this game..?

I mean.., still 400 SoT for 150 Ironite.., it should be 600..,
The Single Refill does what it should like.., 30 Ironite for 120 SoT..,

Thanks.


Edit: I should have read before posting this.., than i could had have saved some wasted ironite.., but i tried it myself.., yeah. :rolleyes:

[Stormseye]

Feels like Assassin Banshee is back to defending 65%. Anyone else feeling this?

[Yup]

Feels like Assassin Banshee is back to defending 65%. Anyone else feeling this?

I, personally, don't think it ever changed.

[druid138]

I, personally, don't think it ever changed.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Ip4]

Feels like Assassin Banshee is back to defending 65%. Anyone else feeling this?

i think it's more than 65%,she blocks better then she block on begining...

[Stormseye]

Tested 10 different battles today with banshee/blocker builds and it is blocking around 70% of the time.

[Yup]

Add the AI accuracy boost..... it *could* be 35 + 15-20% boost for a block 50-55% of the time..

.....but like I posted, I don't think it *ever* changed. And at 65%, with the boost, that's blocking 80% of the time.. which is about what I see.

[Ip4]

Devs when will you fix disco bug? Happened few times today...Kaz i know you are reading this,please tell programmers to fix this very big and annoying thing!

[Kaz_LOTB]

Devs when will you fix disco bug? Happened few times today...Kaz i know you are reading this,please tell programmers to fix this very big and annoying thing!

The team is very aware of this issue. The Arena Hang and Gauntlet reset bugs are currently the top priority for our engineers to fix. Hopefully they are resolved soon.

-Kaz

[Ip4]

thanks for fast reply ;)