What do the different colors of cosmic talis do

[Daviangers]

Does it mean anything important other than the stats/effect

[DanielRacy]

Yeah man, I was wondering about this too. Is there some kind of bonus or something if you put the cosmic talisman on the same color spot?

[Yup]

They are supposed to designate "rarity" I think...

From common to rare....

White
Blue
Purple
Yellow
Red


Yellow and purple may need to be swapped. I'm not 100% certain about the order of those two.

I have yet to see a green.. or hear about anyone with a green. Not sure if green exists.

[Daviangers]

I have a blue hp one and purple hp one, so Idk. but thatd be an interesting theory

[Blade]

but thatd be an interesting theory

Do you mean the ranking by colour? If yes, it is not a theory. You can read about that in the official cosmic infos, here a quote:

Talisman Quality
Each Cosmic Talisman also has a quality rating, which is a further indicator of the stat ranges within a given Tier.

This quality is indicated by a colour scheme:

Common Quality = White
Rare Quality = Blue
Epic Quality = Purple
Legendary Quality = Gold
Mythic Quality = Red

find more here: Cosmic talisman basics (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?11328-Cosmic-Talisman-Basics)

[blade685]

one yellow for me and never saw a red one

[GotN]

I have 20+ cosmics and never saw more than a blue one :(

[scott-5496]

I have mostly white, several blue, a few purple and one yellow. Not 100% sure on those numbers but I have those colours so far.

[Blade]

Mostly white, few blues and very few purple. Nothing above.
But I did not open all cosmics yet, as I gamble on a sweet bonus in the frame of this anniversary to come...hopefully!

[DanielRacy]

I have a maxed out purple one, wich is awesome, but I just wonder the levels of HP and Attack/Magic on a max Yellow or even Red (never seen one).

5709
5710

[Natasmai]

5711

My only yellow

[Chaosego888]

Mostly white, few blues and very few purple. Nothing above.
But I did not open all cosmics yet, as I gamble on a sweet bonus in the frame of this anniversary to come...hopefully!Same here and I'm thinking the same thing. I have 17 or 18 of them that I haven't opened yet.

[Blade]

Same here and I'm thinking the same thing. I have 17 or 18 of them that I haven't opened yet.

Patience pays off... hopefully! So double fingers crossed :)

I thought I was good with my 12 or so... may play some dungeons as soon as the BNW bonus is gone. But probably there will be some time competition if the LoL grind madness starts tomorrow! We'll see!

[Chaosego888]

Patience pays off... hopefully! So double fingers crossed :)

I thought I was good with my 12 or so... may play some dungeons as soon as the BNW bonus is gone. But probably there will be some time competition if the LoL grind madness starts tomorrow! We'll see!It definitely does sometimes... I'll probably just grind my troopers in the Warrior Dungeon this evening and hope that gives me enough fragments for the Crimean guy. For some reason, I typically have a terrible drop rate for fragments in the Warrior dungeon so I just wait until it changes to Magus to grind for whatever extra stuff I might wan't.

[Yup]

I have a ton of white and blue.. a few purple.. a few yellow.. and 1 red for sure, maybe 2.

The stats between colors aren't really that different, neither are the augments. The T1/2/3 matters more than the color where stats are concerned. And who knows what augment you'll pull recently. I just picked up a blue T2 yesterday with the "Chance passive". And last week I picked up 3 or 4 cosmics all with the Void or Death Mark Skill augments and they were a mix of white and blue T1s and T2s.


The biggest disappointment for me is that "epic" talisman souls typically do NOT generally drop anything much better than the regular talisman soul. -- Suppose it's just like getting 3 star toons from rare souls. Really low chance percentages.

[wipp]

They are supposed to designate "rarity" I think...

From common to rare....

White
Blue
Purple
Yellow
Red


Yellow and purple may need to be swapped. I'm not 100% certain about the order of those two.

I have yet to see a green.. or hear about anyone with a green. Not sure if green exists.

Is yellow what i have been calling gold? Or is there a yellow one that i dont have?

[scott-5496]

It is the same as gold/yellow - essetially 'gunner' coloured. I have one I think.

[Yup]

Yes. :) I call it yellow because it's not "gold" to me.

Gold isn't a color. it's an alloy. :) Same reason i don't call the red ones "ruby", the white ones "quartz", or the blue ones "sapphire". :)

[druid138]

Yes. :) I call it yellow because it's not "gold" to me.

Gold isn't a color. it's an alloy. :) Same reason i don't call the red ones "ruby", the white ones "quartz", or the blue ones "sapphire". :)

Well, if you are getting technical about it, gold is an element, not an alloy. ;)

(sorry, couldn't resist . . .)

[wipp]

[QUOTE=druid138;102093]Well, if you are getting technical about it, gold is an element, not an alloy. ;)

(sorry, couldn't resist . Im no scientist but isnt quartz clear? Lol

[Muzzleloader]

Pure quartz is colorless. It can come in any color variation due to impurities. Same as diamonds can come in a variety of colors. Clear is not a color.

Rubies and sapphires dont necessarily have to be red and blue.

[Yup]

And gold can be more brown or white depending upon the amount of copper/silver in it.. :) That's kind of my point. :) and why I use "yellow". :)

[wipp]

You didnt have to explain yup, we were just bustin your balls

[DanielRacy]

So, bottom line the talisman is yellow. :-)

[Muzzleloader]

If gold were mixed with silver, copper or other metals then it would be an alloy. Such as 14 or 18 carot gold jewelry.

I just had nothing better to write. Off topic, but it would be nice if they color coded the dungeon keys.

[Zugzwang]

The stats between colors aren't really that different, neither are the augments. The T1/2/3 matters more than the color where stats are concerned.

This is of course correct. So if all other things are equal when comparing cosmic talismans (every stat boost and augment or bonus) a color that is one step higher rarity will have all better stat boosts. What is really confusing (and I made a freaking chart to map all this crap) is when you are trying to compare 2 talismans that have ALL the exact same boosts/augment and you want to compare Tier vs Color. Tier is more important than color—that’s been established. But for someone who can only evolve so many talismans you may want to know which is better in the long run.

So for example if I have a white T1 and a blue T1 blue is better no question. If I have a white T2 and a blue T1 the white T2 is better. BUT.... if you have a purple T1 and a white T2 one has 2 better stats and the other has 1 better stat. Now here’s where it gets even hairier. A yellow/gold or red T1 is better than a white T2 but what about a white T3? They’re very close and the stats are no longer equally boosted or distributed in the same way. I’ve literally looked at all of this since I have a bunch of them and even a red T1 that boosts the same stats as lower ones. I really wish they had either more tiers and no colors or more colors and no tiers because all it does is convolute which talisman will be better when fully maxed so you can’t know for sure.

If you have say, a HP,Magic,MR + 15% HP for example in a white T2 and a purple T1 the purple one may have better MR boost while the white higher tier one has better HP and magic boost. Why?
Why should we have to keep so many cosmics that boost the same stats? It would take years to evolve them all and it’s annoying doing math equations to try to guess whether I should evolve one or the other. I only want to keep the strongest potential ones—not waste evo on ones that can never be as good.

I maxed a T1 white with void augment because hey I didn’t have a void augment before...then I pull a T2 yellow/gold with the same and void. Great right? Well yes but I also wasted evo material on the other one which is weaker and can never be as good as the T2 yellow. Also they say all these are random and they aren’t. Other than changing the augments I see the same stats boosts ones over and over on my chart. There’s only so many combos and boosts but the augments they are adding are nice.

[DanielRacy]

Devs should really put some clear info on that out. It's really confusing.

[Zugzwang]

Devs should really put some clear info on that out. It's really confusing.

They could try but it would probably look a lot like my rambling incoherent post. There’s no way to simplify it the way it’s set up. They need do away with one or the other. Talismans are plenty complex without that extra math.

Let me ask you: if I offered you a fully maxed cosmic that boosted stats you wanted and have a bonus or augment you wanted which would you prefer the flavor to be?

A white T2 or a purple T1?

What about if you were offered the choice of a gold T1 or a white T3?

You’d have to decide exactly which of the 3 stats you want boosted more because you will have to sacrifice one of them for the other 2 in those cases.
Not a fan.

[Yup]

Stat boosts, from what I've seen, between colors of matching T1 or T2 cosmics in in the range of less than 1% difference. Color really doesn't make a whole lot of difference, even in the stats. If an extra 100-500HP matters... then you're cutting things WAY too close.

[wipp]

They could try but it would probably look a lot like my rambling incoherent post. There’s no way to simplify it the way it’s set up. They need do away with one or the other. Talismans are plenty complex without that extra math.

Let me ask you: if I offered you a fully maxed cosmic that boosted stats you wanted and have a bonus or augment you wanted which would you prefer the flavor to be?

A white T2 or a purple T1?

What about if you were offered the choice of a gold T1 or a white T3?

You’d have to decide exactly which of the 3 stats you want boosted more because you will have to sacrifice one of them for the other 2 in those cases.
Not a fan.

I think i would take the stat bonus. Remember those t3s we all got? Freeze only works once a battle if your lucky

[Paves]

I'm new here but I'll add to the confusion for the hell of it... Stats for my purple, T1, 2 star- 5315 hp, 1380 atk, 487 mr, +15% atk. Stats for my blue, T2, 2 star- 7684 hp, 658 atk, 419 def, +15% hp. Guess it depends on which stats you prefer. Do with this what you will... Lol