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DoctorEly
09-14-2019, 09:00 PM
Lucifer? Really? Isn’t that the fictional character we already know as the Beast?
Next they’ll have a character for God as well!
I had kind of thought that the character in question marks along with the 5 x classes of Lord of Light they advertised last week that was due to be revealed in the final stage of this mega event, has been revealed already as Dark Lilith.
Is this not the case?
I’m mean it’s highly likely I’ve missed out on something. Is there any truth to this Lucifer or is this just a prediction?


I found a character labeled as Lucifer in the Collections tab, along with Dark Lilith. Made a post about it not too long ago. It makes sense to me. The LOL storyline says the Beast was his "other half", implying that the Beast and the LOL were part of one being. Religiously, Lucifer is associated with the planet Venus, the Morning Star. Lucifer is sometimes used as a name for Satan, but it can also be seen as a separate person, usually as the fallen angel who would eventually become Satan. He's been referred to as the "Shining One", "Lightbringer" and "the Lord of Light", from what I can see. I'm not a religious person, just looked up Lucifer on Wikipedia. Hope this is useful in the slightest...



Hell, if all that is bogus, the song goes "Lucifer was just an angel led astray", so there's that.

rags-6094
09-14-2019, 09:06 PM
Thank you, I knew the history on Lucifer and his various alias’s I didn’t pay close enough attention during the LOL storyline I guess...

edsel
09-14-2019, 09:23 PM
Lucifer? Really? Isn’t that the fictional character we already know as the Beast?
Next they’ll have a character for God as well!
I had kind of thought that the character in question marks along with the 5 x classes of Lord of Light they advertised last week that was due to be revealed in the final stage of this mega event, has been revealed already as Dark Lilith.
Is this not the case?
I’m mean it’s highly likely I’ve missed out on something. Is there any truth to this Lucifer or is this just a prediction?


I found a character labeled as Lucifer in the Collections tab, along with Dark Lilith. Made a post about it not too long ago. It makes sense to me. The LOL storyline says the Beast was his "other half", implying that the Beast and the LOL were part of one being. Religiously, Lucifer is associated with the planet Venus, the Morning Star. Lucifer is sometimes used as a name for Satan, but it can also be seen as a separate person, usually as the fallen angel who would eventually become Satan. He's been referred to as the "Shining One", "Lightbringer" and "the Lord of Light", from what I can see. I'm not a religious person, just looked up Lucifer on Wikipedia. Hope this is useful in the slightest...



Hell, if all that is bogus, the song goes "Lucifer was just an angel led astray", so there's that.

Doctor please help me, is your discovery from a Collections tab located on this screen somewhere for you?6150please show your path into the portal via screenshots or something if possible. Thanks-Edsel

DoctorEly
09-14-2019, 09:42 PM
Doctor please help me, is your discovery from a Collections tab located on this screen somewhere for you?6150please show your path into the portal via screenshots or something if possible. Thanks-Edsel

Collections tab is not officially in the game. It will appear occasionally, when it's not supposed to (a la the Garden of Life appearing for some of players before BNW launched), next to the fragments tab. Looks like a Book of Souls with a magnifying glass over it. I don't know the circumstances it appears under, if any, but I got it again last night, and it pulled up a black screen. The frogs probably don't want me in there again!

thealchemist
09-15-2019, 07:44 AM
Gonna leave this here. But nice to see the devs going back on their word.

"The Lord of Light fragments are exclusive to the Enlightened Souls.

-Kaz"

Really?

Also redemption fragments drop randomly, bad enough, but only on floors XIII and higher? Id hate to be fairly new to the game and unable to farm. My team is struggling to do it on floor xiii, taking 3-4 minutes per run on auto. So shardborns are almost unobtainable, and dark lilith is more or less the same unless you buy her. This mega event might be the end of me.

Edit : Just had my first defeat. So even I can't auto floor XIII so thats that it seems. Get fucked.

URock
09-15-2019, 09:38 AM
Wait for the 3rd part of LOL event! Maybe we get new event souls which drop any LOL or a new toon like "Lucifer". Only then we can choose the best option to buy.

CrazyHarry-2514
09-15-2019, 11:20 AM
What team setup do you use for LoL III and LoL IV?

I used
Alex with Orbit
Maclo with inspiration + Vorpal + cosmic
Set / Raven witch with Labyrinth + cosmic
Procyon with Singularity

But every time I face the Dark Lilith and I kill one of the Shareborne, one of my team gets killed by Dark Lilith's passive:

Deal 500% of a random enemy's MAX HP as true damage and heal all allies to full HP when and ally dies

Which in my opinion should be countered by the Orbit passive my Alex is wearing.

Grants immunity to true damage to all allies

So I end up reviving my team 1x for every run which is not possible, so I end up finishing the key on LoL XII.

Ip4
09-15-2019, 11:48 AM
where is best place to find 3 star evo PURPLE for upgrade characters?If best place is LOL assasin then i will need months for one star upgrade...

URock
09-15-2019, 12:00 PM
So I end up reviving my team 1x for every run which is not possible, so I end up finishing the key on LoL XII.
This is how it should work: they want us to burn our Ironite, Frontier Coins, Sands Of Time and...Evo Items.

aidinia
09-15-2019, 12:18 PM
What team setup do you use for LoL III and LoL IV?

I used
Alex with Orbit
Maclo with inspiration + Vorpal + cosmic
Set / Raven witch with Labyrinth + cosmic
Procyon with Singularity

But every time I face the Dark Lilith and I kill one of the Shareborne, one of my team gets killed by Dark Lilith's passive:

Deal 500% of a random enemy's MAX HP as true damage and heal all allies to full HP when and ally dies

Which in my opinion should be countered by the Orbit passive my Alex is wearing.

Grants immunity to true damage to all allies

So I end up reviving my team 1x for every run which is not possible, so I end up finishing the key on LoL XII.

I have orbit on hallowed, and had no problem at all with this, didn't even touched my team, killed all the rest very fast, and took me an extra turn to kill her, and another two when she revives.
I alternate sometimes at the beginning with PoM to grant me invincibility, but it's not really needed.

My team was

Lilith Warrior - Viper
Maclo - Present/Warlord
Raven - Labyrinth

PoM - Angel/Health // Hallowed - Orbit (I used PoM for the first runs)

This team worked fine on manual for both levels, and I'll try on auto now, although I don't think it'll work at all...

edsel
09-15-2019, 01:50 PM
Dude c'mon now6163

Ip4
09-15-2019, 02:10 PM
Lol. .

Muzzleloader
09-15-2019, 02:11 PM
It shows, spend enough money and you can be at the top of the arena.

Bakura
09-15-2019, 02:12 PM
where is best place to find 3 star evo PURPLE for upgrade characters?If best place is LOL assasin then i will need months for one star upgrade...
Raven's Altar Dungeon drops the purple 3* more than LoL levels.

Navigator Frog would probably recommend you buy those $30 packs and get 100 of each color.

Bakura
09-15-2019, 02:27 PM
It shows, spend enough money and you can be at the top of the arena.

It was exactly this type of situation that was the reason I wrote these parody lyrics (click the link below to read more.)

To the tune of Flight of Icarus...
Fight of, a Purchase
[chorus]
"Buy, all your things, for arena,
buy, and rank # 1
So you pay, for arena,
buy, now you've won"
6166

Muzzleloader
09-15-2019, 02:35 PM
I have no problem with.someone buying thier way to the top. That's what the game needs, more spent money.

How much does it cost to be # 1 in the arena? Gauntlet cost even more since you have to buy a whole lot more toons and talis.

Bakura
09-15-2019, 03:01 PM
In the End, you still have to do over 800+ battles.... so technically someone w/ less, if they played and won more battles, could reach #1... Eternal.

Albeit, this $ team can make it easier.
I am not against spending $ at all, but like edsel said... "Dude, c'mon now"
That was funny!

URock
09-15-2019, 03:25 PM
Doesn't matter, because nerf is coming and the the next overpowered toons are on their way.

Ip4
09-15-2019, 04:16 PM
Raven witch Altar Dungeon drops the purple 3* more than LoL levels.

Navigator Frog would probably recommend you buy those $50 packs and get 100 of each color.

Playing now raven dungeon 2 hours for 600 SOT and only 6 purple 3 star evo :(

wipp
09-15-2019, 04:38 PM
How the hell do you get 3 dark liliths? I used over 30 souls and got a myan priestess

Bakura
09-15-2019, 04:46 PM
How the hell do you get 3 dark liliths? I used over 30 souls and got a myan priestess
Could have spent $100-$150, opened 75 souls for the 750 required frags, got lucky and got dupes + the earned. Possibly even this scenario x 2.

The irony is, this is the guy we commented on before, who posted a pic of reaching first place after roll over. Who's laughing now?

wipp
09-15-2019, 04:49 PM
Watch out or i will post my pic of me in first in gauntlet.it was level d tho lol. Theres only one way you can beat me on that. If u get a screen shot of first on level f

Muzzleloader
09-15-2019, 04:57 PM
Just buy 200 souls.

Bakura
09-15-2019, 05:16 PM
Watch out or i will post my pic of me in first in gauntlet.it was level d tho lol. Theres only one way you can beat me on that. If u get a screen shot of first on level f
Gotta love Mr. Wipple, always keeping the "bar" low.

"...... don't squeeze the Charmin!" 🚽

https://youtu.be/hoHhzyh9kCg
Watch this.....freakin' hilarious!

Yup
09-15-2019, 05:29 PM
Doesn't matter, because nerf is coming and the the next overpowered toons are on their way.

Even more. they nerf now so you can "awaken" the character.. that's how Raven Witch works.. she's the same character as before her nerf if you "awaken" her twice (plus added perfect corruption infliction).

Rory
09-15-2019, 08:36 PM
the event target of using "spell vamp" 600 times is slow, slow, slow going. I have two of the characters who have that ability, but they just won't use it on auto.

Ezz
09-15-2019, 08:44 PM
the event target of using "spell vamp" 600 times is slow, slow, slow going. I have two of the characters who have that ability, but they just won't use it on auto.

I used shadow wicker man Eddie, gunner rockets, and gunner krampus. With the extra power and extra turns on that setup I was getting around 40 spell vamp counts per run. It’s manual but could knock it out in around 15 runs.

aidinia
09-15-2019, 08:48 PM
the event target of using "spell vamp" 600 times is slow, slow, slow going. I have two of the characters who have that ability, but they just won't use it on auto.

Minotaur Sentinel, I think it was the first one I finished!

Rory
09-15-2019, 09:11 PM
Yeah, Krampus and Minotaur, aren't the characters I have lol. Been trying with the meathead and hourglass that have it as their power move, but they just don't ever seem to use it. Only the eddies that have it as one of their moves seem to have a chance to use it.

Switched to the magus shardborne that's also part of the event, and hmmm, they use their power move to grand spell vamp just fine.

Muzzleloader
09-15-2019, 09:12 PM
Grim reaper Eddie normal move give all allies camp each round. Manually running powerslave ot AMoLoD can givec15+ per battle.

Muzzleloader
09-15-2019, 09:20 PM
Is everyone using awakening frags to purchase evolve material. Running level XII isnt producing enough material. How are the rewards in level 13 and 14?.

edsel
09-15-2019, 11:59 PM
Is everyone using awakening frags to purchase evolve material. Running level XII isnt producing enough material. How are the rewards in level 13 and 14?.

I am buying the souls with frags to get random grab bags of evo materials instead of specific stuff from the store. Seems like a better deal giving better, but random, rewards plus including 10x 3star colored evo shards and hearts. Since I need massive quantities of everything now it doesnt matter that its random. Drop rates are what they are and it is just going to cost a ton of resources to awaken all 5 Lords, Dark/Nightmoon Lilith & Lucifer. But on the plus side investing into these characters is more worthy in my view than running an event dungeon 1000 times at 15 SoT to get a dust collecting novelty that is used once or twice every 2 weeks in Gauntlet.

GrimDusk
09-16-2019, 02:29 AM
Got my first LoL, magus! He seems great but I can only get the first awakening level.

zzzoron
09-16-2019, 06:47 AM
Grim reaper Eddie normal move give all allies camp each round. Manually running powerslave ot AMoLoD can givec15+ per battle.
I think that you mean Carriage Rider.

Muzzleloader
09-16-2019, 11:11 AM
What are quantum frags? Looking through my frags and seen them, just too many to keep track of.

scott-5496
09-16-2019, 11:27 AM
What are quantum frags? Looking through my frags and seen them, just too many to keep track of.

They are old frags from August BoS event that were used for Quantum 6 set talismans - got one set of them I think.

Blade
09-16-2019, 12:03 PM
Is LoL >X again giving warrior frags? I only played LoL >X during the first awakening part and I was surprised that the enemies are always the same, independend of the day (would make sense to somehow refer to the respective LoL-class + some special if you play while LoL <X is closed). The same is true for the rare soul frags. It would be a pity if this LoL dungeon would always give warrior frags.

I don't know yet if I will awaken the raven witch during this event part, as the rewards are rather lame (oracle talis).

Muzzleloader
09-16-2019, 01:26 PM
What are some good team for level 13 and 14. I dont have musashi or golden minataur.

Natasmai
09-16-2019, 01:38 PM
Is LoL >X again giving warrior frags? I only played LoL >X during the first awakening part and I was surprised that the enemies are always the same, independend of the day (would make sense to somehow refer to the respective LoL-class + some special if you play while LoL <X is closed). The same is true for the rare soul frags. It would be a pity if this LoL dungeon would always give warrior frags.

I don't know yet if I will awaken the raven witch during this event part, as the rewards are rather lame (oracle talis).

I believe they technically give all 3 basic class frags, but Warrior is maybe 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 over the sentinel and magus frags.

Level XI is warrior lilith, level XII is assassin lilith. I expected the other 3 levels to be the remaining classes so that even though they weren't locked to the LOL current class, they at least covered all 5 classes. However, as we can see, that is not the case.

Although, they wouldnt be able to lock the Frontier LOL to the current LOL I - X class because what would they do for the 2 days that LOL is closed.

Blade
09-16-2019, 01:51 PM
I believe they technically give all 3 basic class frags, but Warrior is maybe 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 over the sentinel and magus frags.

Level XI is warrior lilith, level XII is assassin lilith. I expected the other 3 levels to be the remaining classes so that even though they weren't locked to the LOL current class, they at least covered all 5 classes. However, as we can see, that is not the case.

Although, they wouldnt be able to lock the Frontier LOL to the current LOL I - X class because what would they do for the 2 days that LOL is closed.

When I played the LoL dungeon some weeks ago, I had a look at the rewards list and only warrior frags were listed. This was when it was warrior LoL day. So I thought next day would give magus frags, but it was again warrior. I would grind this Dungeon on the days that are assassin and gunner LoL (which we normally don't do as these 2 days are never included in the LoL frag events).

For the days when normal LoL is closed, there are several options to show some creativity! All LoL's as bosses, RNG rotation, something like that. Frags could also be random, or plain rare frags or even better: legendary soul frags!

R1ck
09-16-2019, 01:55 PM
What are some good team for level 13 and 14. I dont have musashi or golden minataur.
I used Rags suggestion:

Alex - Orbit
Warrior LoL - Troopers
Charlotte - Viper, cosmic
Major Malakhov - Singularity

Used to get 8 3* Evo colourless runes per run, a part from other rewards, like 10 Awakening fragments per run as well.

No losses, best time 2:22, average 3:20

scott-5496
09-16-2019, 02:44 PM
I am using:
Alex with Orbit
Charlotte with Vipers
KP with Greed
Madam with Singularity

No losses on any of the levels with that team. Nearly maxed relics just a few to go.

Muzzleloader
09-16-2019, 02:53 PM
Scott, I'll give it a try. Thanks. What times are you getting? Just trying to figure out how much SoT to buy.

Esquatcho
09-16-2019, 02:55 PM
I used Rags suggestion:

Alex - Orbit
Warrior LoL - Troopers
Charlotte - Viper, cosmic
Major Malakhov - Singularity

Used to get 8 3* Evo colourless runes per run, a part from other rewards, like 10 Awakening fragments per run as well.

No losses, best time 2:22, average 3:20

Was that full auto, or with a manual select on the dark lilith at the end or something else? This team comes close for me, but they all die like usual after the first time she goes down....

R1ck
09-16-2019, 03:04 PM
Was that full auto, or with a manual select on the dark lilith at the end or something else? This team comes close for me, but they all die like usual after the first time she goes down....

All auto, they were never close to die , maybe it is because of relics, mine are all complete.
My W LoL is on level 8, playing a new key right now and it seems it will take 7 normal refills.
New best time 2:09

Bakura
09-16-2019, 03:25 PM
All auto, they were never close to die , maybe it is because of relics, mine are all complete.
My W LoL is on level 8, playing a new key right now and it seems it will take 7 normal refills.
New best time 2:09
Great info...Thanks.
I have singularity on Magus LoL on my defense team.... would there be any downside to using him instead of Malakhov or Madame?

Natasmai
09-16-2019, 08:51 PM
any substitution for charlotte? It really irritates me that that is one of the only toons im missing. I assume her Immunity to silvers is the reason to use her here?

Muzzleloader
09-16-2019, 09:16 PM
I just ran one key on level 14 and earned 250 redemption frags. That's going to be alot of runs for chances to earn dupes. I wonder if the chances will be any better to pull sharbornes than pulling dupe liliths.

Bakura
09-17-2019, 12:16 AM
I just ran a LoL key, level 14.
*Best time was 1: 45
Avg. 2:20

Alex Ed- Orbit
KP- Greed/Warlord
Charlotte- Vipers/Cosmic
Magus LoL- Singularity

100% win on Auto.

That Dark Lillith video on LOTB's Facebook page is cool.
They're going to start doing "Video Profiles."
If you think she's insane now, wait until she is "Fully Awakened!"
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1832145693582464&id=814574058672971

Muzzleloader
09-17-2019, 12:19 AM
Same team except I use the major instead of LoL, similar results.

Olevipoeg
09-17-2019, 07:17 AM
Orbit it the key. Dark Lillith passive deal massive true damage. Orbit prevents it. Singularity is not needed. I use Madam with Alchemy. Gives better results with Sustaing Warlord.

Yup
09-17-2019, 07:19 AM
Charlotte is a must have for higher LOL levels with her immunity to silver buffs. Even Musashi (also immune to silver) won't work well....

URock
09-17-2019, 09:31 AM
@Ruby_LOTB: can we pls get info about the 3rd part of LOL event, if we get a second chance to pull the LOLs out of souls? I don't want to purchase my fragments now and then get a dupe LOL during the 3rd part of LOL event.

Stranger
09-17-2019, 11:10 AM
I just ran a LoL key, level 14.
*Best time was 1: 45
Avg. 2:20

Alex Ed- Orbit
KP- Greed/Warlord
Charlotte- Vipers/Cosmic
Magus LoL- Singularity

100% win on Auto.



As I don't have Alex I used Gambler with Banner + Resilience and Orbit put on Charlotte. Finally the usable team. My best time was 2:02. Thanks Bakura.

I ran level XIV but I don't get any Redemption frags. Is this normal? At least I've got one Light talisman.

infinite dreamer
09-17-2019, 01:26 PM
I ran level XIV but I don't get any Redemption frags. Is this normal? At least I've got one Light talisman.

I ran level XIV with 1 key yesterday and ended up with 200 Redemption frags. Not sure how many runs I did. What is a bit strange is that the Shardbornes I pulled from Nightmoon souls were 4* characters and the ones listed available for redemption frags are 3*. Probably just a visual error on the 3*?

Stranger
09-17-2019, 01:39 PM
According to announcement all Shardbornes are 4*. Shardborne soul in BoS shows 4* all. I can't check Redemption frags as I don't have any :rolleyes:

GrimDusk
09-17-2019, 01:40 PM
Nope. Redemption Frag Shardbornes are indeed 3 star characters. I don't know why, but they are.

scott-5496
09-17-2019, 01:50 PM
I have enough Redemption frags for four shots at these new characters - going to do them in a bit - I think we eventually get the Magus one through achievments so I am bound to get at least two of those!!

If you farm the cr*p out of level 14 you get a fair hit of these and I have had at least two drops of 50 frags that I saw while farming.

Edit: Can confirm the Shardborne you get from the Redemption souls are all 3 stars - my luck was OK, no magus but got one of sentinal and gunner as well as 2 assassin from the 4 souls I collected.

Sentinal takes a whopping 10 skill shards, 5 for gunner and another 10 for the assassins.

Muzzleloader
09-17-2019, 02:28 PM
Scott, how many keys did you use. I ran one last night on level 14 and earned 250 drags. That would be 8 keys and about 1500 ironite.

scott-5496
09-17-2019, 02:38 PM
I think it was 6 keys in total - dont think I have used 8 yet. I did get a couple of 50 drops though.

GrimDusk
09-17-2019, 04:03 PM
Magus LoL seems awful for PvP, he can barely hold his own in most situations. Is he just good for farming?

edsel
09-17-2019, 04:10 PM
Magus LoL seems awful for PvP, he can barely hold his own in most situations. Is he just good for farming?

And assassin, against Orbit he shoots blanks. True damage off the charts but when blocked by these useless. Really cool character and looks awesome fully awakened, but because if these talismans stillborn for arena and not worth investment of awakening. What a shame.

This upcoming arena event has great or terrible timing depending on which side of the new character fence you are on. Red star max awakened Lords are popping up, 5 purple star Dark Lilith today also. Fighting against these is truly a fools errand unless you have them too.

Ip4
09-17-2019, 04:19 PM
For me best is assassin and magus LOL,also warrior is ok

Maiden
09-17-2019, 05:43 PM
Magus LoL seems awful for PvP, he can barely hold his own in most situations. Is he just good for farming?


When you reach a high level with him its good for farming, until that, his dark ghost effect he can be a double edge weapon against your running play time, sometimes you already blasted the whole team but you stil got a random guy ghosted who is only standing there stealing your time. However, you can build up a team around him to remove ghost, or when he is powerful enough you kill the enemy team befoer ghosted.



About the Higher Lol dungeon. This team looks useful but I still can´t manage it on auto, I dont have Charly. I tried to use a replacement but at the end, from time to time my Alex/orbit its killed, also tried different combinations including M Lilith/fortune, or another char with orbit or alchemy or an extra greed for health but my results are inconsistent.


Alex Ed- Orbit
KP- Greed/Warlord
Charlotte- Vipers/Cosmic
Magus LoL- Singularity

Muzzleloader
09-17-2019, 05:52 PM
Maiden did you try the major?

Maiden
09-17-2019, 07:51 PM
Don´t have the Major neither :/

Yup
09-17-2019, 08:06 PM
Gunner LOL will deal massive damage to 1 target.. if he kills that target.. he deals massive damage to the other targets :) (Awaken level 2)

Thing is.. his defense isn't as good as the Warrior or Assassin LOL (Which are the 3 I have at the moment - no magus or sentinel).

Also have 3 of the Shardbornes - Assassin, Magus, and Sentinel. Not really that stoked about them overall. Much like the Newbornes... meh.

For what it's worth.. I still use Raven Witch even though she does zero damage against Orbit talismans... she still steals immunity and immortality, grants extra turns, and clears silver buffs... Won many a battle due to that even though she was throwing blanks for the most part. If my A LOL was Awakened more.. I'd be more apt to try him more. But.. 3star purple evo runes are too hard to come by. Last A LOL dungeon I burned a couple thousand SOT on and only got 26 of the suckers. AND... I need them for Dark Lilith, Raven Witch and LOL.. so like 400 of them minimum :)

wipp
09-18-2019, 02:03 AM
Yup,if you dont mind me askin. How many souls did you have to open to get dark lilith?

Yup
09-18-2019, 02:51 AM
I got her with frags, she didn't drop for me from a soul. I did purchase a few event soul bundles.... I'm apt to spend the $100 once a month on the legendary package. And if I wait for events like these, it's no big deal to burn some ironite on 3 or 4 soul packs.

I am, of course sitting at 12 ironite at the moment :) Which is how I know it's pretty impossible to get anything of merit done in this app unless you are refilling SOT constantly.

Bakura
09-18-2019, 03:47 AM
I know "Navigator Frog" is a business..... and everything is about $ nowadays....gotta make revenue to keep the servers running, etc. But as fun and exciting all this "Awakening" and loads of dungeons are..... this is all clearly a HUGE marketing ploy to boost revenue. The resources needed to utilize the characters and cosmic talis are way too much! No one wanting FREE is going to get far or be competitive. It all trickles down to IRONITE. And in large amounts. Not many of the packages give a large amount.... unless you spend $100.
This need to invest more $ in order to evolve or advance, will cause an even greater divide between the spend and spend nots.

But remember, Iron Maiden is on Tour promoting this game.... so all this new material and gameplay (awakening/boss toons/dungeons) is all coinciding for the success and revenue of IM & NF.
Anyone been noticing a big influx of newbies?.... I wonder how many have started playing cuz they discovered LOTB at the concerts.

kgk56
09-18-2019, 06:55 AM
Nope. Redemption Frag Shardbornes are indeed 3 star characters. I don't know why, but they are.

True but why is the Magus alone a 4* and only a 3* with the others ?

Blade
09-18-2019, 09:09 AM
I got her with frags, she didn't drop for me from a soul. I did purchase a few event soul bundles.... I'm apt to spend the $100 once a month on the legendary package. And if I wait for events like these, it's no big deal to burn some ironite on 3 or 4 soul packs.

I am, of course sitting at 12 ironite at the moment :) Which is how I know it's pretty impossible to get anything of merit done in this app unless you are refilling SOT constantly.

Oh my goodness! 100 bucks per month? That's some heavy investment. Is that the whale approach we heard so much about? "Thanks" for this payment, I could not reconcile this with my conscience. This is more than what I payed in total since the game was released. On the downside: The developers will feel confirmed in their money grabbing approach, which is dangerous in my opinion!
This is not meant as an offense, but it rather shows what happened to the game. It was a happy peaceful free to play game at the start (there was no PvP in the beginning), moving to slight pay-to-win, onwards to heavy pay-to-win (classic freemium bullshit). What we see now is pay-to-collect (characters that are ONLY available for cash) and pay-to-play with these heavy SoT costs for all the dungeons that are released (at a ridiculously high frequency).
Recently I was around 9k Ironite, I used 2k for event souls in the first awakening event to get 1 LoL and used "some" more to get Magma Eddie and Malakhov. Then I was down to ~3k Ironite. I try to get up high in Ironite again but this is hardly possible with all the expensive dungeons. I planned to leave the game as soon as it is not possible anymore to compete by having good ironite reserves and a good ressource management. It seems like this critical state might be reached more or less soon.

I have one serious question alongside this: Why are you guys farming that new expensive LoL dungeon so intensively? For the awakening materials and the frags that can give the shardbornes, right? Or did I miss something? There is nothing else connected to the actual event that can be missed, apart from the event challenges e.g. grant spell vamp etc. Thanks for answering this! I am a bit lost in the game recently.

kgk56
09-18-2019, 10:23 AM
I have one serious question alongside this: Why are you guys farming that new expensive LoL dungeon so intensively? For the awakening materials and the frags that can give the shardbornes, right? Or did I miss something? There is nothing else connected to the actual event that can be missed, apart from the event challenges e.g. grant spell vamp etc. Thanks for answering this! I am a bit lost in the game recently.

I actually farm the Raven Dungeon to get the new awakenable Cultists, and thanks to Bakura (Shadow Wicker Man, MACLO Crimean Soldier & Derby Demon) it goes fast. I don't do it for the frags as I already have all the Shardbornes, Dark Lilith, 4 LoL ...

scott-5496
09-18-2019, 10:34 AM
I actually farm the Raven Dungeon to get the new awakenable Cultists, and thanks to Bakura (Shadow Wicker Man, MACLO Crimean Soldier & Derby Demon) it goes fast. I don't do it for the frags as I already have all the Shardbornes, Dark Lilith, 4 LoL ...

I am moving onto the Raven one today I think. I will likely go with the team Bakura developed as well. I just got the Shardborne all done today. No Dark Lilith for me but I did get a Warrior Shardborne from the event souls to complete the set so I can take that as I usually get sweet FA from them.

You have four LOL! Jeez, how did you manage that! I could get a second but not going for it yet as I was glad to get the Warrior and he is 5 star purple and decent. I have done a couple of Witches up to 2 and 3 purple stars and left them at that for now. 4 LOLS and a Dark Lilith is beastly! LOL. I defo want a Dark Lilith - she is a nightmare, though easily beaten in the LOL 14 - in an arena team or gauntlet in the right team she is going to take a some beating (if at all) is she is paired up with the right set of allies and Eddie.....scary stuff but dont want to buy stuff that I can get eventually so I think I keep my hands in my pockets for now.

I did buy the tour Eddie as I can live with that outlay and it helps keep the lights on I suppose!

kgk56
09-18-2019, 10:59 AM
I am moving onto the Raven one today I think. I will likely go with the team Bakura developed as well. I just got the Shardborne all done today. No Dark Lilith for me but I did get a Warrior Shardborne from the event souls to complete the set so I can take that as I usually get sweet FA from them.
The Bakura team is actually the best for Me ... 4 keys and 184 runs ... a few losses but never against the Witch, only the Owl


You have four LOL! Jeez, how did you manage that! I could get a second but not going for it yet as I was glad to get the Warrior and he is 5 star purple and decent. I have done a couple of Witches up to 2 and 3 purple stars and left them at that for now. 4 LOLS and a Dark Lilith is beastly! LOL. I defo want a Dark Lilith - she is a nightmare, though easily beaten in the LOL 14 - in an arena team or gauntlet in the right team she is going to take a some beating (if at all) is she is paired up with the right set of allies and Eddie.....scary stuff but dont want to buy stuff that I can get eventually so I think I keep my hands in my pockets for now.
I only miss the assassin LoL. I find dark Lilith a little lame but with the right talis & allies, maybe ...

Muzzleloader
09-18-2019, 01:27 PM
I just dont know what to do right now. I havent tried the ravens run yet. I only have one shardborne and no LoL. I can buy an LoL or wait. I have close to 3000 frags. Did people use thier awakening frags for level materials or did you just run the crap out of the LoL dungeons?

I dont know if I should start running the raven or stay with LoL. I can wait until the next LoL season for my toons.

Blade
09-18-2019, 02:04 PM
I just dont know what to do right now. I havent tried the ravens run yet. I only have one shardborne and no LoL. I can buy an LoL or wait. I have close to 3000 frags. Did people use thier awakening frags for level materials or did you just run the crap out of the LoL dungeons?

I dont know if I should start running the raven or stay with LoL. I can wait until the next LoL season for my toons.

Similar here, I first need to find out what all these dungeons are about and if they are worth it. So far I was pretty unobstrusive, have not yet played Maya, Airstrip or Raven. I mean they are permanent (or??), so I see no rush as there is nothing time limited with these (please correct me if I am wrong!). From the first view I think only Maya has good rewards, but I'm not sure.

I used 3 LoL keys during the first event phase for level 12. This was pretty ironite costly already. I used some more event souls to have enough frags to buy 1 LoL (warrior), to awaken him 3 times to get the Valor set. The 3 keys gave a lot of awaken material but not enough for the 3 awakenings. So I used some of the frags to get the upgrade material. This was rather easy and I didn't need many. But I am quite sure this will be different for the higher awakening steps. This time I won't awaken a character, as I don't need a set of oracles. Also I am sure there will be one event or another that has dungeon keys as rewards (at least it says in the august tuning notes that keys can be event rewards). I do not plan to buy another LoL with frags at the moment. I think the Talismans are more important, as we cannot get them anywhere else and all LoLs will be available for FC when the mega-event is over (mid of October).
Until then I try to understand the new meta, what all these new characters can do and where they fit, and I try to get my Ironite stocks up again, as these dungeons really drain your stocks easily.

edsel
09-18-2019, 02:49 PM
I got her with frags, she didn't drop for me from a soul. I did purchase a few event soul bundles.... I'm apt to spend the $100 once a month on the legendary package. And if I wait for events like these, it's no big deal to burn some ironite on 3 or 4 soul packs.

I am, of course sitting at 12 ironite at the moment :) Which is how I know it's pretty impossible to get anything of merit done in this app unless you are refilling SOT constantly.

I bought 7 event soul 10packs plus the challenge reward souls to get 750 frags Dark Lilith. A couple months of stacking 6300 ironite gone in a flash, but the Fear Of Missing Out got the best of me with this event character. Was hesitant with Lucifer on the horizon, but the "free way" of getting DL requires all 5 LoL max awakened clearing dungeon, a massive resource investment that will take serious time. Time that will most likely introduce new better characters that will make DL obsolete when she finally is acquired. And she is REALLY COOL just wish I could get 5 red stars to get the blocking opponent revive passive. That is going to make a great advantage in arena against so many troublesome teams. I wonder how much better Lucifer is? Could be a let down like Killer Beast event finale was to Killer Prime introduced earlier but so much better.

URock
09-18-2019, 03:15 PM
As a "free to play" player I concentrate on the most useful toons I got. In my case it's only the Raven Witch. Missing so many toons so it's easy to choose what to do: nothing but wait! Maybe another overpowered toon is published with 3rd part of LOL Event, but I'll never get him (or her?) because of shit RNG and no interest in money spending on 24/7 farming.
Lean back and wait for new bugs to come ... :-D

scott-5496
09-18-2019, 03:59 PM
I just dont know what to do right now. I havent tried the ravens run yet. I only have one shardborne and no LoL. I can buy an LoL or wait. I have close to 3000 frags. Did people use thier awakening frags for level materials or did you just run the crap out of the LoL dungeons?

I dont know if I should start running the raven or stay with LoL. I can wait until the next LoL season for my toons.

I ran the LOL dungeons level 14 for my upgrade stuff - not really used that many awekening shards yet - just bought a few warrior packs for my LOL. and from that I also had enough to get my Witch started up to 3 purple stars (and a second one to 2 purple stars). I have done airstrip and half of Mayan so now looking at Raven's Alter to hunt down those targets. It is, at the moment, best place to get 3 star coloured upgrade evo shards which I will need a lot of for Witches and maybe Assassin LOL eventually.

What was the Lucifer character - assassin too?

Bakura
09-19-2019, 02:42 AM
Raven's Altar vs. LOL XI-XV

Run Raven's Altar for 3* colored evo shards (best place to get them, every run they drop 2 or 3) and also Awakening frags... to get Awakening materials in special store. Also rare souls, Wicker awakening shard and mimic talis. Book of life/Tarot cards Cosmic evo materials.

LoL 11-14 for random Awakening materials/ Awakening frags/ 3* colorless talis evo runes/ shardborne souls/soul frags. Also colored soul frags, Lol awakening shard and light talis.

Both drop skill shards & FC and usual coins/ironite/SoT/.

Did 4 Raven keys today.... burned last of ironite.... but worth it to evolve 2 awakening toons each another lvl.

URock
09-19-2019, 07:25 AM
Colored Evo runes = rainbow runes?

Bakura
09-19-2019, 09:07 AM
Colored Evo runes = rainbow runes?

Rainbow is actually "colorless"... meaning it is not color specific. (universal)

If your referring to the comment above, I actually said colored evo shards.... meaning color specific.
The Ravens Altar dungeon drops all 5 different colored evo shards needed to evolve characters and in huge amounts to Awaken LoL's, Raven witch, and D. Lilith. It also drops the 3* rainbow/colorless shards.... but these are pretty common.

The Lol dungeon has the rainbow/colorless 3* runes to evolve talis and cosmic talis.
Both dungeons are a "Hotbed" for those respective resources.

Btw.... when I first saw those terms on the forum, I thought the same as you, but figured it out eventually. It does kinda sound confusing, but I hope I made it clear for you.

URock
09-19-2019, 09:17 AM
@Bakura: ty \m/

scott-5496
09-19-2019, 09:52 AM
LOL 14 you do get really decent rewards - loads of talisman for sure as I had to sell a load of them! I thin if you have the ironite and you want to awaken these two new dungeons are decent and worth doing. Not if you are tight for ironite though. Today I am mostly getting through 104 gold daily dungeon keys...at no real SoT cost to be honest. I never bothered with them so going to see how it goes burning through 100 of them!

kgk56
09-19-2019, 10:53 AM
I ran the LOL dungeons level 14 for my upgrade stuff - not really used that many awekening shards yet - just bought a few warrior packs for my LOL. and from that I also had enough to get my Witch started up to 3 purple stars (and a second one to 2 purple stars).

Why did You upgrade your 2nd Raven ? Dark Lilith is an assassin too : you will need the evo stuff.

scott-5496
09-19-2019, 10:56 AM
Why did You upgrade your 2nd Raven ? Dark Lilith is an assassin too : you will need the evo stuff.

Probably because it will be a very long time until I get the Dark Lilith as I can only now get it through achievments which will take ages - so my next assassin focus is likely to be a LOL, not Dark Lilith as I need the LOL to get the Lilith I think.

Ip4
09-19-2019, 10:59 AM
I don't know for you people but for me maximum is 7-8 star,it's very hard to go above that...

kgk56
09-19-2019, 01:31 PM
My Warrior & Magus LoL are 5* level 9, Gunner & Sentinel LoL 3*, Raven 4* & Dark Lilith 3*

Bakura
09-19-2019, 03:45 PM
My Warrior & Magus LoL are 5* level 9, Gunner & Sentinel LoL 3*, Raven 4* & Dark Lilith 3*
Talk about collecting the whole set!

Natasmai
09-19-2019, 06:02 PM
I have Warrior and Magus LOL at 10 stars, just need the tardis box pieces for the 11th and final level.

My Raven and Dark Lilith are at 8 stars each. The quantity of 3* purple runes are the roadblock there.

I also have Wicker Wolf at 8 stars

URock
09-19-2019, 06:54 PM
I also have Wicker Wolf at 8 stars

What is that?

GotN
09-19-2019, 09:06 PM
What is that?

The new Wicker Wolf/ Owl/ Ox Characters can be earned from achievements by playing through the Raven‘s Altar. Those are the awakenable Characters beside LoLs and the Raven Witch.

GrimDusk
09-19-2019, 11:13 PM
Has anyone made the Magus LoL work in PvP? He’s still kinda trash for me. I’ve stuck with malakhov for now.

Bakura
09-20-2019, 01:24 AM
Has anyone made the Magus LoL work in PvP? He’s still kinda trash for me. I’ve stuck with malakhov for now.
I'm using him w/ Singularity along side W Lol w/ Vipers, Alex w/ Orbit and an Alchemist with that 2 set talis that won't let him use special or fury, so he's locked in to just basic move to cleanse each time.
I have like 85% defense, but most was probably lower than100 ranked. I've been hanging anywhere from 90 to 110.... just playing a few times a day. I'm so over the AI BS in arena.

But his Dark Ghosting and Doom are great.
I wish singularity was a 5 set, cuz he's not very durable w/ out a good cosmic.
I thought about going back to Malakhov but, I'm bored using the same old toons, even if they work....I like switching it up, just for fun.

But, yeah his pros are: use singularity, d. Ghost and doom.

Natasmai
09-20-2019, 03:44 PM
What is that?

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Bakura
09-20-2019, 08:39 PM
Some people scoff at these new toons, but once you've experienced them, you realize they're pretty freaking cool.

I have Wicker Wolf Evolved and Wicker Owl Evolved both at level 6.... I will max them when done awakening the LoL's.

They compliment each other. Considering we have to farm the Raven's Altar Dungeon for shards anyway, these are actually a nice bonus!!!6245

Btw, for anyone wondering..... there are 3 NEW Awakenable Wicker Characters obtainable by completing the Raven's Altar challenges.
-Wicker Wolf Evolved
-Wicker Owl Evolved
-Wicker Ox Evolved

wipp
09-20-2019, 09:19 PM
I have to admit,even tho i scoff at them.he does look pretty cool with his homemade wings

MetalKing
09-21-2019, 03:54 PM
If anyone is still trying to complete challenges in the last few hours, vamp can be inflicted by carriage rider Eddie and by mushasi.

R1ck
09-23-2019, 02:22 PM
This pack should be modified, only one 5* colourless shard while 25 are required to awaken last level of a character.
It costs 1000 Awakening frags, really expensive.
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Bakura
09-23-2019, 11:15 PM
Preach it brotha!!!!

Yes.... I fully agree. I opted for opening 3 Awakening souls instead and got a 5* plus extras.
Grinding LoL 14 is better if one could afford to.

This awakening crap is fun and challenging..... but seriously? the resource requirements are way too high.
Very, very few gamers will have maxed awakened toons anytime soon.

Besides with the AI being so jacked and broken in arena, once you finally get a fully Awakened toon, will it really change that much as far as competition.
I sometimes feel that with all the new toons and talis, awakened LoL, even getting all the relics...... my team gets destroyed more than ever in arena.

Irony is when all your hard earned tools, invested time, money and efforts = worse than before.

"And it makes me want to cry, and throw my hands up to the sky

So understand
Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years"

Yup
09-24-2019, 12:55 AM
Truth is.. if you aren't investing in PvP heavily.. all of it is unnecessary.. even for the Gauntlet. And certainly the storyline, what little there is of it, requires new characters or "awakened" characters.

At the core of the app there's no real playability once you have defeated Killer Beast in Night city. After that point.. it's all simply FOMO driven....

Bakura
09-24-2019, 08:45 AM
This pack should be modified, only one 5* colourless shard while 25 are required to awaken last level of a character.
It costs 1000 Awakening frags, really expensive.
6288

Your wish is their command!
It's coming.
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scott-5496
09-24-2019, 09:58 AM
Truth is.. if you aren't investing in PvP heavily.. all of it is unnecessary.. even for the Gauntlet. And certainly the storyline, what little there is of it, requires new characters or "awakened" characters.

At the core of the app there's no real playability once you have defeated Killer Beast in Night city. After that point.. it's all simply FOMO driven....

I agree. There really is little to no need to push for the new shiny thing all that much...but most of us do. I can grind and farm all day If I want to so that is never an issue for me but the new shiny should all be achievable over time for me anyway. Like the pay only characters - I can see why some want them to be exclusive to buyers but I do think they should be available for all at some point. But they have me with these as I want to get the Eddies and I can afford it so I do.

Also , I suppose they do nto want to say much about these pay only characters - if they were to say they will be available in the future they would not get the early birds liek me buying them so they are playing it the sensible commericial way I guess.

Muzzleloader
09-24-2019, 05:00 PM
With the release of these awakenable toons I am about to call quits to the game. I have only been going through the motions the last few weeks and slowly falling behind. When the liliths and gods came out it seemed the distance between have and have nots was widening. Now the LoLs and such topped that. These are definetly for end gamers and serious grinders. I just have lost the drive to continue the never ending grind. I'll see it through the the end of the mega event and see how it goes, I now understand why my uncle gave me his account. The grin he gives me when we talk about the game shows he doesnt regrett leaving.

I dont know how newer players even contemplate evolving LoLs and level needed toons for gauntlet and missions. We thought the cosmic talis bottlenecks and grinds were unbearable, but they topped it with the mega event requirements.

wipp
09-24-2019, 06:21 PM
O come on.its really not thT bad.at least we dont have a deadline to do it. I dont enjoy the grinding but i do like that us older players have something to work towards when we open the game. Dont give up that easy

Yup
09-24-2019, 06:39 PM
This app is impossible without constant and continual SOT refills. 240-360 SOT per day is pathetic.

Muzzleloader
09-24-2019, 07:23 PM
Let's say you have 50 3* colored evo shards and no awakenable materials. What would it take in time and resources to fully awaken a toon? That's where many players are at, how can they save while having to evolve all the other toons.

I have alot of resources from when I took over, but without mega refills everyday it's hard to stay competitive. That doesnt count on the real money purchase only items. .

How much time and resources have each of the last dungeons cost? I know they are releasing these for long term players to stay interested, but it just causes bigger rifts as time goes by.

edsel
09-24-2019, 07:30 PM
O come on.its really not thT bad.at least we dont have a deadline to do it. I dont enjoy the grinding but i do like that us older players have something to work towards when we open the game. Dont give up that easy

Yes. Imagine from the devs standpoint generating content to lure new players and retain old ones. Tough to give a balance for people with few resources something to participate in while not boring players with 300+ maxed sharded characters and all talismans. Awakening gives many of us something to do after you have every character and have done everything. I still love the game and want to continue, new content is appearing sparratically with event dungeons but they burn quickly. Now that we have new ultra powerful characters to Awaken it provides an objective for all the farming and expense. What does a player need a 999 stack of shards for? Good to have a use for all the built up resources, now if they only bring back the gold store...sitting on 250M+ and can't find a good use for it.
This arena event is set up great with challenges that require active strategizing rather than 400 wins and stretch goals that made arena events lengthy chores. Mega event is well constructed also, NF is doing a great job of generating interest for participation. Building suspense for what lurks behind the curtain we are eagerly awaiting the ultimate character in stage 3. And thanks for not NERFING anymore, making a countermeasure via new talisman or character hurts way less than reducing the strength of a character or talisman set we work hard to get and upgrade.

Yup
09-24-2019, 09:50 PM
They just nerfed Gambler... just saying...

URock
09-24-2019, 10:38 PM
They just nerfed Gambler... just saying...
Wait until you see the Awakenable Gambler :-DDD

Bakura
09-25-2019, 01:02 AM
I now understand why my uncle gave me his account. The grin he gives me when we talk about the game shows he doesnt regrett leaving.

Dude.... I'm not one to laugh at anybody's pain..... but that part was funny..... I could just imagine.
Thanks, I needed a chuckle.

The game has been and is even more now - Very Obsessive...... it's like a life not a game. I know this, yet still partake. But one day soon I won't have so much time to burn, and I'll have to quit this habit.
If it wasn't for the forum it would seem alot more isolated and less fun. The Game + Forum makes for great comradery.
Facebook is too bitchy to be a part of .... you could give them 1,000 ironite for free, and they'd still complain.

Wasn't there supposed to be "Guilds" in the works?.... that would be cool.

Yup
09-25-2019, 05:15 AM
Wheres the fabled "wiki" with all the information???

Bakura
09-25-2019, 09:17 AM
Wheres the fabled "wiki" with all the information???
Well, from what I gathered from this forum, they expected us gameplayers to make it w/ nothing rewarded in return.
I think Deathbat's Excel spreadsheet is the closest we are going to get.

Here's another thing missing..... what about the event they recently skipped?

emahncke
09-25-2019, 10:00 AM
Wheres the fabled "wiki" with all the information???

https://lotbgamer.com/

A very useful site

Natasmai
09-25-2019, 06:06 PM
I just took the last 4 or 5 days off from "playing" the grind. I ran low on ironite and needed to stock up. I played the Arena event instead and only did my daily skull quests and troopers i ran in Powerslave without buying any SoT. I dont feel I missed out on anything, I still was gaining resources thru the Arena rewards, and today I jumped right back in at farming 3* bricks in the Ravens Altar while knocking out more achievements. I have still awakened a character 21 times (the next Achievement is 30 BTW) and I still have tons of the white snow frags to buy more awakening materials if needed... I havent farmed LOL keys in a while as I think the Raven's Altar gives better rewards.

I really dont understand the complaints. Take a few days to restock, play minimal SoT in low cost dungeons, keep your troopers happy, and jump back in when ready.

Ip4
09-25-2019, 08:28 PM
Cant find screens what is needed for 19-10 star dark lilith,can someone give me link?

Yup
09-25-2019, 09:25 PM
Cant find screens what is needed for 19-10 star dark lilith,can someone give me link?

I think ......... a valid credit card, date of birth, first born child .. and... a sample of your DNA.

edsel
09-25-2019, 09:35 PM
I think ......... a valid credit card, date of birth, first born child .. and... a sample of your DNA.

You forgot left nut

druid138
09-25-2019, 09:52 PM
Cant find screens what is needed for 19-10 star dark lilith,can someone give me link?

https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12326-Character-Awakening-Requirements-and-Initial-Thoughts

Ip4
09-25-2019, 09:54 PM
Thank druid that's what i needed ;)

Yup
09-26-2019, 03:06 AM
You forgot left nut

Nut not necessary.. they have your DNA.. they can make their own clone.

Bakura
10-01-2019, 02:22 AM
300 free ironite
https://tinyurl.com/yxsx8sv6

or enter this code:
WVX5A-47R83-7REQB

Lthepostman
10-01-2019, 07:25 AM
Thanks Bakura \m/

Yup
10-03-2019, 10:55 PM
Well thank heavens they've slowed down n character releases......... I mean that's what 12 in less than a week.. or were there more....

GrimDusk
10-03-2019, 11:39 PM
Okay, so here's what I've gathered: The Cosmic Lord of Light is 100% worth getting. He has all grey talisman slots like Musashi, and his skills seem to allow for some nice combos against all characters. I have a feeling this won't be the last "Cosmic" character we shall see. In addition, the Onyx Sons are okay, nothing crazy, and Lucifer himself seems to be quite good. However, this is some crazy ass long term goal: either get him now or battle in the LoL frontier dungeon for eternity and attempt to gain enough awakening materials, gold, and Frontier coins to get every Lord of Light to max, Dark Lilith to max, and push through the final LoL level with her and Cosmic LoL.

Amarthir
10-04-2019, 12:01 AM
Okay, so here's what I've gathered: The Cosmic Lord of Light is 100% worth getting. He has all grey talisman slots like Musashi, and his skills seem to allow for some nice combos against all characters. I have a feeling this won't be the last "Cosmic" character we shall see. In addition, the Onyx Sons are okay, nothing crazy, and Lucifer himself seems to be quite good. However, this is some crazy ass long term goal: either get him now or battle in the LoL frontier dungeon for eternity and attempt to gain enough awakening materials, gold, and Frontier coins to get every Lord of Light to max, Dark Lilith to max, and push through the final LoL level with her and Cosmic LoL.

The irony is that for a brand new player just got done installing the game. For the amount of time it would take for them to get Lucifer, he will probably by insignificant by then lmao.

wipp
10-04-2019, 12:02 AM
I just baught the cosmic lol its gunner class

edsel
10-04-2019, 12:18 AM
I just baught the cosmic lol its gunner class

Cosmic has slightly less stats than regular gunner lol but better abilities and awesome no talismans restriction635763576358

Stormseye
10-04-2019, 12:27 AM
Lol XV Dungeon Bugged again. See the Bug Report

GrimDusk
10-04-2019, 02:11 AM
Well I just looked at Edsel's Lucifer to see what the awakened bonuses are, and the final upgrade makes him basically take no damage from attacks, automatically give an Alchemist-esque cleanse, and he only really takes damage upon being stunned. I'm sorry, did the devs not see how much of an issue that is?

rags-6094
10-04-2019, 04:18 AM
Issues? At the moment the game won’t even open, I’m so over this Lotb, is this a weekly event or what? Loading stuff ups weekly, fix it fix it fix it fix it fix it agghhhh!

Tim28213
10-04-2019, 04:23 AM
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This is a new one for me. Eddie head flashing 3 times then pause, flash 3 times then pause...loop
At least it isn’t the weekend. I’m able to log back in after just a few minutes.

fanghorria
10-04-2019, 04:56 AM
Just after reading I thought Cosmic LoL didn't have a class just like the talismans and could be used for let's say that assassin only in the gauntlet?

Yup
10-04-2019, 05:22 AM
Well I just looked at Edsel's Lucifer to see what the awakened bonuses are, and the final upgrade makes him basically take no damage from attacks, automatically give an Alchemist-esque cleanse, and he only really takes damage upon being stunned. I'm sorry, did the devs not see how much of an issue that is?

They plan it.. release OP so everyone clamors for it.... then nerf later.

Ip4
10-04-2019, 05:43 AM
What characters using for today event?blind.mr.echo....

Also is red LOL better than gunner and sential LOL?i have blue and purple and need to buy third...

URock
10-04-2019, 10:48 AM
Event challenges:

Heal shield (Warrior Pyro Soldier & Troll -P)
MR+ (Warrior-Mayan Priestess -P)
Echo (Necropolis -P)
Blind (Warrior Snowman, Assassin Minotaur & Trickster -P)
Sleep(Gunner Pyro Soldier -P)
Tocix Burn (I don't know)


Thanks to @Deathbat
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eGqJo1oP0r6MqxNrhjk78QyPQTOYX2-B/view

scott-5496
10-04-2019, 10:51 AM
Event challenges:

MR+ (Warrior-Mayan Priestess - P)

Yeah, been using her as well as Killers Ed (with Trooper for the echo), Assassin Hellhound, Gunner Pyro, The Beast - all but done except the Toxic Burns and some MR+.

scott-5496
10-04-2019, 11:08 AM
Toxic comes from Eddie/Killers and then from The Beast (Fury), Sentinel Trickster (Basic) and Magus Hellraiser (Basic) - well that is my team along with Mayan Priestess to finish off MR+.

Muzzleloader
10-04-2019, 11:15 AM
Warrior chopper power move for toxic burns

Stranger
10-04-2019, 11:26 AM
Toxic burn - I used Demos spawn A to passively inflict crave to all enemies and then Iron Ed's future basic to inflict up to 5 Toxic burn. It goes fast.

Stormseye
10-04-2019, 11:35 AM
NoTB Eddie for Toxic Burns
Major Malakhov - Heal Shield
Sentinel Bomber Boy for MR
Magus Mayan Priestess for Sleep
Crimson Pharaoh Dog for Echo
Fear of the Dark Eddie for Blind or talismans on Sentinel Bomber Boy
Gunner Pyro Soldier for Blind/Heal Shield
Assassin Lamia, Reaper Boss does Echo on power move.

URock
10-04-2019, 11:54 AM
Cosmic Lord Of Light Dungeon

"This dungeon also has the chance of dropping a small amount of each type of class specific evo materials."

...no! Droprates under 1% or what?

Lthepostman
10-04-2019, 12:23 PM
New sentinel Onyx son also works great for Blind (even on auto).
Well, looks like Lucifer is gonna be a far far away achievement. I burned 1800 ironite and got nothing. I actually got two sentinel Onyx sons. Great loot considering that I will get him anyway via normal achievements. That makes the whole situation even more irritating.....

Ip4
10-04-2019, 12:52 PM
I still think dark Lilith is better than lucifer

GrimDusk
10-04-2019, 12:55 PM
I still think dark Lilith is better than lucifer

At lower levels of Awakening, Lucifer, Cosmic LoL, Sentinel LoL, Gunner LoL, and Assassin LoL, are all not as good as Dark Lilith or the Warrior/Magus LoL’s. At max level, though, they are going to become unstoppable. Lucifer can remove any form of damage block (including Perfect Heal Shield) and his final passive leads me to believe he’s unkillable unless your team is heavily focused on stunning the enemies.

fred10141988
10-04-2019, 12:58 PM
Any auto team for Lord of Light XV?

URock
10-04-2019, 01:11 PM
Any auto team for Lord of Light XV?
It's bugged! Read the forum!!!

Lufata-7894
10-04-2019, 01:13 PM
It's not bugged, you need to apply PERFECT death to those bastards in wave 4.

Volrath
10-04-2019, 01:20 PM
Good lord, that took me quite a while to figure out. "Why the hell do they keep coming back?!" Then I noticed they both had Brave talismans and the only way to pull it off was to hit them with perfect death. Thankfully, you only need to hit one with it and then kill the remaining one to end the cycle.

Ip4
10-04-2019, 01:31 PM
Perfect death have magus LOL only?

Lufata-7894
10-04-2019, 01:39 PM
Perfect death have magus LOL only?

Hallowed eddie basic attack, magus anubis basic attack has a 35% chance and gunner's anubis power move. I am using Malakhov power move.

Muzzleloader
10-04-2019, 02:24 PM
Any suggestions on who to use manually for level 15?

URock
10-04-2019, 02:35 PM
It's not bugged, you need to apply PERFECT death to those bastards in wave 4.

Look there: https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12360-Lol-XV-bugged-again&p=107295&viewfull=1#post107295

BUGGED...until the devs or players post that it is fixed!

PS: everything new developed from the Frogs is BUGGED! So wait a little and save Ironite!

fred10141988
10-04-2019, 03:01 PM
Look there: https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12360-Lol-XV-bugged-again&p=107295&viewfull=1#post107295

BUGGED...until the devs or players post that it is fixed!

PS: everything new developed from the Frogs is BUGGED! So wait a little and save Ironite!

Ty for reminding.

scott-5496
10-04-2019, 05:20 PM
I used the same team as I did for 14 but first of all went for power through and had to do a revive at the end boss level. After that I brought back in Charlotte and it seemed OK the second time - may have been luck. Not sure there will be an auto team for this one - 14 is still fine for farming at least!

Bakura
10-04-2019, 05:30 PM
LoL 15 seems to be bugged, but this team rolled right through.
It's expensive at 35 SoT, so a fast team may not be needed.
Best time 3:04

Flight of Icarus Ed - Radiant/Cosmic/Random Green
Magus LoL - Singularity
Charlotte - Orbit
KP - Greed/Warlords

6360

For anyone wondering, the bug is on level 15 stage 3.
The 2 Gunner Onyx Sons,
when the last one dies, the other revives.... repeat.
Silver such as perfect death and Doom bounce off.... does not stick. Magus LoL rolled right through them w/ KP.

Update: Sometimes the loop happens and M. LoL kills the onyx before ghost is applied, then Icarus Ed can use a special and Ghost him.
The major reasons to do this dungeon is for the necessary Awakening Shards to evolve a toon to max. I got one in the first 5 runs (much better than lvl 14), and the awakening frags drop as 15 instead of 10.

The Educated fool
10-04-2019, 05:31 PM
NoTB Eddie for Toxic Burns
Major Malakhov - Heal Shield
Sentinel Bomber Boy for MR
Magus Mayan Priestess for Sleep
Crimson Pharaoh Dog for Echo
Fear of the Dark Eddie for Blind or talismans on Sentinel Bomber Boy
Gunner Pyro Soldier for Blind/Heal Shield
Assassin Lamia, Reaper Boss does Echo on power move.

Good stuff, man! \m/ Also consider U.S. Cavalry Eddie for Echo... he does the whole team with his passive. It goes quickly. :cool:

Bakura
10-04-2019, 05:46 PM
Assassin Bat w/ Reapers works excellent for Echo (figure it out.)

Also, Corrupt Feldmarschall grants Magic penetration to all allies which causes Gunner Pyro's passive to inflict sleep on all enemies, plus it grants perf. heal shield to all allies.
Throw Blind talis on both, and there's 4 out of 6 challenges completed by these 3 toons.

Ancient Mariner
10-04-2019, 07:29 PM
Assassin Bat w/ Reapers works excellent for Echo (figure it out.)

Also, Corrupt Feldmarschall grants Magic penetration to all allies which causes Gunner Pyro's passive to inflict sleep on all enemies, plus it grants perf. heal shield to all allies.
Throw Blind talis on both, and there's 4 out of 6 challenges completed by these 3 toons.

you sir deserve a thank you

Esquatcho
10-04-2019, 09:48 PM
I used the same team as I did for 14 but first of all went for power through and had to do a revive at the end boss level. After that I brought back in Charlotte and it seemed OK the second time - may have been luck. Not sure there will be an auto team for this one - 14 is still fine for farming at least!

Whats your 14 farming team man?

Also I went through 15 manually without a problem (2nd time once I knew about perfect death!) using gambler (lab) / Hallowed (whatevs) / KP (frontier) / charlotte (vipers) / prisoner (primordials)

Muzzleloader
10-04-2019, 10:41 PM
On level 14 when the LoL dies the first time she strips all the buffs from my team except when charolette kills her with her power move and invincibility remains and she doesnt sleep KP and the major. Does anyone have an explanation for 5hat?(

URock
10-05-2019, 11:33 AM
I failed two times on level 15. I went through the 3rd stage with Hallowed Eddie, but the boss stage is impossible for me.
Reviving is too expensive, because I need all Ironite for farming.
I got no Labyrinth Talismans. What Team is the best?
The more Talismans and toons are thrown into this bugged game, the less I understand the mechanix.

Smudger24
10-05-2019, 07:23 PM
Flight of Icarus Ed - Radiant/Cosmic/Random Green
Magus LoL - Singularity
Charlotte - Orbit
KP - Greed/Warlords

I have everything else but is there any substitute for Icarus Ed? Been waiting a while for him, but he eludes me. Would like to auto lv 15. But can hardly manual it.

Yup
10-05-2019, 07:32 PM
For the Boss stage.. tapping to target Lucifer can help if you find you are getting wiped out by Lilith or the others. Kill Lucifer and the battle's over.

Bakura
10-05-2019, 07:33 PM
I saw on FB and here, that Hallowed Ed can get past the bug w/Trooper talis, but not sure if he can win the battle.
I seriously think it's bugged, cuz the gunner onyx twins somehow won't take certain silver debuffs... and it's not a passive ability.
I think we are all waiting for a fix. The only real reason to grind 15 is for the Awakening Shards needed to max the character. If you're not at that point, just grind 14 or less.
Good Luck!

6370

It's gotta be bugged, cuz the "ally" who dies to trigger passive should not be himself, plus the "random" ally who is revived should not be the same each alternating revive. If it's not bugged, then it's poor strategy design or the AI cheats w/ the word random.

6372

zzzoron
10-06-2019, 01:04 AM
Is level XV supposed to give Redemption frags along with the Absolution ones? If not, me getting some should be a bug.

Muzzleloader
10-06-2019, 10:49 AM
Is there going to be another announcement about spending falling angel frags? I am ready to spend mine on LoLs, but am waiting to see if something else pops up to be able to purchase.

Ip4
10-06-2019, 11:01 AM
No i read somewhere if you don't spend til 15.09 after thet you can only convert them in precios souls...

Bakura
10-06-2019, 11:22 AM
Is there going to be another announcement about spending falling angel frags? I am ready to spend mine on LoLs, but am waiting to see if something else pops up to be able to purchase.

From the in-game newsfeed:
6377


No i read somewhere if you don't spend til 15.09 after thet you can only convert them in precios souls...
6378

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Ip4
10-06-2019, 11:32 AM
Is there any point saving 2 or 3 Magus LOL characters or is better to save one and sacrefice two?

Muzzleloader
10-06-2019, 12:04 PM
I guess I am about done with the game for awhile. I am not impressed with the super grinds they require to awaken all the new OPs. I spent ironite and pulled Lucifer and comic LoL. I can buy 3 LoLs or 2 and some talisman, I have enough FC for the rest. I just lost the enthusiasm to continue the grind so they can just add another grind. My hamster wheel needs repair.

The RNG for the onyxs proved just as bad for me as with the liliths. I pulled a few good toons so I wont be totally left behind.

Rory
10-06-2019, 03:58 PM
those reviving characters on stage 4 of lord of light XV are extremely annoying.

Only got past it by intentionally missing.

I had a character with Viper talismans, which put perfect bleed on them. Then I had the Angel of Death, who inflicts perfect death if the target has perfect bleed on them. But they would do so much damage that the target would die (and resurrect the other reviving character), before the perfect death was applied.

but by attacking and intentionally missing, and not getting a good or perfect attack, the perfect death effect was applied, allowing me to actually kill those characters.

But omg, is that ever a punishing stage for people - if you don't have the right handful of characters you are stuck and not going anywhere.

URock
10-06-2019, 05:11 PM
I opened 8 Morningstar Souls and got...Piece Of Mind Eddie and crap. I'm so happy, thank you Frogs! 2 souls to go (from event challenges), but I expect nothing than crap...as the last events since...I don't know when I got the last 5* event toon.
As a free to play player I will go on, but I will never put money into this bugged roulette game.

Yup
10-06-2019, 06:45 PM
I have enough FC for the rest.



How do You know? Given Gambler/Angel are at 4500.. I expect these LOLs to be above 5K FC each. Did they mention FC pricing somewhere?

GrimDusk
10-06-2019, 06:47 PM
How do You know? Given Gambler/Angel are at 4500.. I expect these LOLs to be above 5K FC each. Did they mention FC pricing somewhere?

Yeah, I believe they're 2500 FC.

Yup
10-06-2019, 06:48 PM
Oh. so cheap. :)

Muzzleloader
10-06-2019, 07:02 PM
I hope they dont change the price. It was posted at 2500 FC per LoL. I guess they can sell them cheap and make up on the back end in when you try to fully awaken. Along with all the other toons released and awakenable toons 3* colored evo shards are the new premium resource.

Muzzleloader
10-06-2019, 10:02 PM
I was reading Lucifer's fury description. It shows he will revive a dead ally, not just an ally. That differs from charolette power move that revive an ally, which may or may not be dead. Next toon should revive an ally that can be revived, excluding doomed or perma-deathed allies. That would make it even a more reliable reviver.

Yup
10-06-2019, 10:06 PM
Or they need a "Cremate dead enemies" ability.. which ensures all dead enemies can not be revived, even if they died without permadeath/perfect death/doom/ghost.dark ghost. But then.. they need some sort of tombstone marker where the character used to be to indicate it can not be revived.

Muzzleloader
10-06-2019, 10:33 PM
Cremate may be adequate. Many have seen dead bodies drag themselves across the battlefield and attack. I dont know how to handle the invisible enemy with only thier buffs showing or a myriad of other strange phenomenons.

They could create a yeti or bigfoot toon that may or may not exist. They only leave footprints or bits of hair, they would have unknown abilities.

Bakura
10-07-2019, 01:12 AM
Not sure what the final verdict is whether this LoL level 15 is "officially" bugged, but I'm grinding it with success.
Here is my 2 cents on the topic.

-Auto-Grind Team-
Hallowed Ed- Orbit
Killer Prime- Greed/ Warlord
Major Malakhov- Singularity
W. LoL (Maxed)- Vipers/T3 Cosmic

*This order kept them healed better than any other variation.
*Tapping Lucy (to focus attack) helps but is not mandatory.
* This is not a 100% survival, but best I've seen thus far (95%.)
* The Red Onyx twins in stage 1, seemed to be the biggest obstacle.
*Out of the 3 LoL keys grinding 15, I got (4) Max Awakening shards.

Good Luck!6379

Amarthir
10-07-2019, 02:57 AM
Oof. After an alcohol induced decision caused me to buy 31 event souls to top off my LoL fragments and try to get Lucifer, I ended up not getting Lucifer and I used my Lord of Light soul and got a dupe Cosmic Lord. BUMMER!

I did get 3 Onyx sons, being warrior Magus and sentinel ones. They seem okay I guess. Anyone think I should save my dupe Cosmic Lord? I know he's a good character anyways.

Yup
10-07-2019, 04:23 AM
I Have dup Dark Liliths and A Dupe Gunner LOL.. While not imperative I hold onto them. I figure I'd at least keep them in stock until I REALLY need a sacrifice and can't hit it any other way. I "awakened" them just 1 level so the ability and initial stat boosts kick in.

Bakura
10-07-2019, 06:52 AM
During a good buzz:
"Effff it! Live for today..... let's roll the dice and see what I get."

The next day sober:
"Ahhh my head hurts..... and what the f#@k happened to all my dang ironite!!!"

LoL..... always seems like a good idea at the moment.

Ip4
10-07-2019, 08:36 AM
Oof. After an alcohol induced decision caused me to buy 31 event souls to top off my LoL fragments and try to get Lucifer, I ended up not getting Lucifer and I used my Lord of Light soul and got a dupe Cosmic Lord. BUMMER!

I did get 3 Onyx sons, being warrior Magus and sentinel ones. They seem okay I guess. Anyone think I should save my dupe Cosmic Lord? I know he's a good character anyways.

Save him,you need him for Lucifer achievement...

scott-5496
10-07-2019, 10:30 AM
Not sure what the final verdict is whether this LoL level 15 is "officially" bugged, but I'm grinding it with success.
Here is my 2 cents on the topic.

-Auto-Grind Team-
Hallowed Ed- Orbit
Killer Prime- Greed/ Warlord
Major Malakhov- Singularity
W. LoL (Maxed)- Vipers/T3 Cosmic

*This order kept them healed better than any other variation.
*Tapping Lucy (to focus attack) helps but is not mandatory.
* This is not a 100% survival, but best I've seen thus far (95%.)
* The Red Onyx twins in stage 1, seemed to be the biggest obstacle.
*Out of the 3 LoL keys grinding 15, I got (4) Max Awakening shards.

Good Luck!6379

This is the team I have used - also had a variation of it as well that worked but I think you are right - this one is a little more reliable with most team members able to survive with decent HP left - I have had one fail so far where Eddie was taken out - thought did not seen how but it was final level.

Segoy
10-07-2019, 01:00 PM
Hello guys,

I feel I need to share my current desperation and the ticket I just sent to NF (I will keep you informed if there is any response):

Dear Sam and all Nodding Frog,

I just finished opening 75 Nightmoon souls and the feeling I've got is one of a man totally beat down.

These souls were supposed to have double chance of 5* character (i.e. 2.54%), which, avareged, should have given me at least one 5* character per 50 souls. Well, it didn't, even after opening the 75 souls. OK, I understand that is "an average probability".

After opening these 75 souls, I've got about 6 or 7 (six or seven) 4* characters (don't remember exact number, as I was opening them in over a week period). But I opened the last 54 souls today and got only 4 or 5 (four or five) 4* characters. Out of these were two warrior Shardborns, the rest of the (total) given 4*s were 3* rubbish old characters.

And this is one of the two core problems:

a) These remaining 3* rubbish characters were primarily "the old ones" - those that are in game from the very beginning. I understand that you need to keep roster of old characters for the new players as well, but these could be easily summonable from the common "Rare" souls. The Event souls, on the other hand, should be of slightly higher value (not just considering that they even cost more Ironite in the Store, or are viable for real money). Therefore, they should consist of characters not older than e.g. 12 months. (3-*-5*).

b) The other problem is that the list of summonable 3*-5* characters (available in the roster for the given Event soul) gets longer and longer with each event and thus we have less and less chance of summoning a new character. E.g. - 12 months ago I had a much higher chance of pulling out a highlighted (event) toon (it doesn't matter if it is 3*, 4* or 5*) than I have today. If compared to situation (available roster) two years ago (or even three years ago, with the launch of the game), the situation is even more visible. There were limited numbers of 3*, 4* and 5* characters available from Rare or Event souls.

What good is it for us if we have double the chance (of almost nothing = nothing) to summon a 5* character, when there is already not a list of just e.g. three to five 5* characters, but instead, there are already 38 (!!!!) five stars characters, 100 four star characters (4*) and sixty 3* characters (current Striker soul roster) (if I counted it correctly on the small screen available). Even if we pull out a 5* character (the laws of average and probability seem not to work in players' favour here), there is a 71% (~27/38) chance that we will pull out a character that is more than 1 year old and most of us already have it. Should there not be the five brand new Football Eddies, the odds for a new 5* character would be even lower!

This is simply not acceptable, as it means an open mockery and straight-out-laugh to our faces - constantly swinging the odds to the favor of the company in time. No, I am not speaking about hard-to-prove issues like broken AI in the Arena, talismans not working, shift to pay to play strategy, etc. - this is pure math that can be verified by all players and you, developers, too.

Summary: Event souls should have limited roster of available characters (50% or less of today's numbers), they should consist only of "newer" characters and the inchreased chance of pulling out a 5* character should be 3-5% (I don't write that the chance should be trippled or quadrupled on purpose, as trippled or quadrupled zero is still zero).

Thank you for your time and response.

Kind regards,

Muzzleloader
10-07-2019, 01:10 PM
Segoy, your results are very typical of event souls. I opened 80 souls and was lucky to pull Lucifer in the last ten. I did not pull any other 5 *. I did get several red and blue onyx along with a couple of other 4*

By far the worst purchase in the game are event souls. I only buy event souls if I am willing to buy the whole lot for the main character. I only did it this time because I am seriously considering quitting and want a few good toons if I want to return. No reason to save ironite if I quit. I am waiting for the next good sac event to dump my load of hoarded souls.

Segoy
10-07-2019, 01:35 PM
Segoy, your results are very typical of event souls. I opened 80 souls and was lucky to pull Lucifer in the last ten. I did not pull any other 5 *. I did get several red and blue onyx along with a couple of other 4*

By far the worst purchase in the game are event souls. I only buy event souls if I am willing to buy the whole lot for the main character. I only did it this time because I am seriously considering quitting and want a few good toons if I want to return. No reason to save ironite if I quit. I am waiting for the next good sac event to dump my load of hoarded souls.

Hi Muzzleloader,

I think we are 100 % the same on this. I also don't buy event souls, unless it is certain I will get the character from the fragments. I also seriously consider quitting and that's why I wanted Dark Lilith and now I am thinking about Lucifer. The same with sac event - I am waiting for the fabled Halloween sac event and then it is done.

We became too much of hampsters in a wheel in this game - constantly chasing any given "event" - and to what purpose? I don't have inventory/resources to play Gauntlet higher than "A" and even if I had - I wouldn't have the time to play it. The same goes for Arena. And to spin the hampster wheel only for a new collection? One out of 10 new toons may be a game changer, but there is zero to none chance I will pull it out from the given 10 event souls. And I don't have 5900 (6*900 + 5*100) Ironite per month to help me get those 750/750 event frags for a new character.

Good luck on fulfilling your/our resolution.

Muzzleloader
10-07-2019, 01:57 PM
Segoy, I inherited this account from my uncle at the turn of the year. He accumulated a good amount of resources over that time. He played for about 11/2 years and seen the folly in the never ending chase, that's when I entered the chase. I have the toons/talis to be in the top 50-100 in arena and gauntlet, I just dont have the time or enthusiasm to compete.

I really enjoy the game, but if you dont want to spend money or even more time you will slowly fall behind. They throw so many new toons/talis it's difficult to fully try them out. The arena is just a slugfest of new OPs, with never ending bugs that benefit the opponents. I can deal with the gauntlet problems, a lot fewer matches with a better mix of opponents.

The scene they created for a grindathon to awaken characters put me at the precipitate of leaving.

Segoy
10-07-2019, 02:06 PM
Exactly.

If, at least, the music was better (edited). I mean - the themes and riffs are awesome (of course, coming from IM), but the overall music experience is horrible - loud bangs and change of music/style whenever you switch different "screen", initial "scream" at the beginning of the battle, etc. - I ended up running the game on silent (although I have the game running almost all day long due to grinds). It is just annoying - neverending loop of the same short samples. Now, if there was a longer/complex "soundtrack" that would play unchanged regardless of what you do on the screen (kind of as "Iron Maiden radio") - that would be an awesome thing!

Bakura
10-07-2019, 02:18 PM
Hello guys,

I feel I need to share my current desperation and the ticket I just sent to NF (I will keep you informed if there is any response):

Dear Sam and all Nodding Frog,

I just finished opening 75 Nightmoon souls and the feeling I've got is one of a man totally beat down.

These souls were supposed to have double chance of 5* character (i.e. 2.54%), which, avareged, should have given me at least one 5* character per 50 souls. Well, it didn't, even after opening the 75 souls. OK, I understand that is "an average probability".

After opening these 75 souls, I've got about 6 or 7 (six or seven) 4* characters (don't remember exact number, as I was opening them in over a week period). But I opened the last 54 souls today and got only 4 or 5 (four or five) 4* characters. Out of these were two warrior Shardborns, the rest of the (total) given 4*s were 3* rubbish old characters.

And this is one of the two core problems:

a) These remaining 3* rubbish characters were primarily "the old ones" - those that are in game from the very beginning. I understand that you need to keep roster of old characters for the new players as well, but these could be easily summonable from the common "Rare" souls. The Event souls, on the other hand, should be of slightly higher value (not just considering that they even cost more Ironite in the Store, or are viable for real money). Therefore, they should consist of characters not older than e.g. 12 months. (3-*-5*).

b) The other problem is that the list of summonable 3*-5* characters (available in the roster for the given Event soul) gets longer and longer with each event and thus we have less and less chance of summoning a new character. E.g. - 12 months ago I had a much higher chance of pulling out a highlighted (event) toon (it doesn't matter if it is 3*, 4* or 5*) than I have today. If compared to situation (available roster) two years ago (or even three years ago, with the launch of the game), the situation is even more visible. There were limited numbers of 3*, 4* and 5* characters available from Rare or Event souls.

What good is it for us if we have double the chance (of almost nothing = nothing) to summon a 5* character, when there is already not a list of just e.g. three to five 5* characters, but instead, there are already 38 (!!!!) five stars characters, 100 four star characters (4*) and sixty 3* characters (current Striker soul roster) (if I counted it correctly on the small screen available). Even if we pull out a 5* character (the laws of average and probability seem not to work in players' favour here), there is a 71% (~27/38) chance that we will pull out a character that is more than 1 year old and most of us already have it. Should there not be the five brand new Football Eddies, the odds for a new 5* character would be even lower!

This is simply not acceptable, as it means an open mockery and straight-out-laugh to our faces - constantly swinging the odds to the favor of the company in time. No, I am not speaking about hard-to-prove issues like broken AI in the Arena, talismans not working, shift to pay to play strategy, etc. - this is pure math that can be verified by all players and you, developers, too.

Summary: Event souls should have limited roster of available characters (50% or less of today's numbers), they should consist only of "newer" characters and the inchreased chance of pulling out a 5* character should be 3-5% (I don't write that the chance should be trippled or quadrupled on purpose, as trippled or quadrupled zero is still zero).

Thank you for your time and response.

Kind regards,

This game is just a means for them to profit on people's "Fear of Missing Out".... your long email will fall on deaf ears.
It's like writing a letter to a casino complaining about slot machines not paying out.

Besides, you got 75 event souls which = 750 needed frags for Dark Lilith.... right?
You got the main toon plus sac materials, that's the way it's designed.

Congrats on your new boss toon.

If you got the main event toon, why are you upset and writing an email?

Segoy
10-07-2019, 02:40 PM
Hi Bakura,

Almost, but not quite true comparison - the casino slot machines are not programmed to constantly lower chance of winning (whatever low it already is) in time, what is the case of Rare/Event soul character roster.

Yes, I did get the Lilith out of the frags - and I am happy to have her. But I am complaining on the rest of the mechanics - zero to none chance to pull 5* character and whatever character you pull out, it is the old one. I was just pointing out the shifting trend which might not have been visible in the first year, but now, having 3 years worth of characters in roster is essentially an inflation to the game.

I believe it was worth mentioning.

Yup
10-07-2019, 04:00 PM
With EVERY new character released the odds of getting a 5 star character are decreased.

I.E. you may have had a 1 in ~175 chance in September... in October you have a 1 in ~200 chance.

wipp
10-07-2019, 05:21 PM
Its a dirty tactic used by gaming companys. I now open my event souls and buy ten extras and stop there( with nothing) i think if they release a game changing char we should all get it through the grind

Rory
10-07-2019, 05:25 PM
Many have seen dead bodies drag themselves across the battlefield and attack.

I've even seen dead ghosts attack. It was a bit confusing.

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R1ck
10-07-2019, 05:34 PM
I've even seen dead ghosts attack. It was a bit confusing.

6382

The worst part it happens on LoL XV aswell with those Gunner onixs, making you lose a lot of time.

Muzzleloader
10-07-2019, 05:51 PM
As yup said maybe we need a cremate skill to fully kill someone, but I dont know how you would cremate a ghost. Wait until we have zombies and only head shots will kill them. So we may need a fury they delivers head shots then cremates the bodies.

Bakura
10-07-2019, 05:58 PM
Hi Bakura,

Almost, but not quite true comparison - the casino slot machines are not programmed to constantly lower chance of winning (whatever low it already is) in time, what is the case of Rare/Event soul character roster.

Yes, I did get the Lilith out of the frags - and I am happy to have her. But I am complaining on the rest of the mechanics - zero to none chance to pull 5* character and whatever character you pull out, it is the old one. I was just pointing out the shifting trend which might not have been visible in the first year, but now, having 3 years worth of characters in roster is essentially an inflation to the game.

I believe it was worth mentioning.
Good point. I feel/share your frustration.

My comparison to a casino wasn't regarding "chance percentages".... it was comparing greedy, cheating, business practices, and preying on the hopes of others. I don't gamble.... it's a method setup to enrich one side and destroy the other.... kinda like banking.

But you and others bring up a great point of the ever increasing pool of obsolete toons from which we have a fraction of a percent chance to get the "new latest and greatest."


As yup said maybe we need a cremate skill to fully kill someone, but I dont know how you would cremate a ghost. Wait until we have zombies and only head shots will kill them. So we may need a fury they delivers head shots then cremates the bodies.
Or Navigator Frog could fix the bugs.... this "failed" Doom is not normal.

But I like the TWD meets LotB concept! Good call!!! ;)

And maybe a Ghostbusters method of trapping ghosts in a box..... then your special move is to unleash them all on a foe.

HuckFinn150
10-07-2019, 10:08 PM
I've given up on red eyes with event souls. I've only gained Lamia, Cosmic LoL and Magus Shardborn from fragments. I've also noticed the old toons change from 2* up to 4*, which isn't right. A common soul toon shouldn't be available via an event soul. I believe this is being done to water the pool down to make it near impossible to get the event toon. In the football event souls I've only seen corrupt rescuers and worms and soldiers. Like I said in another post. I'm on the blue eyes wagon with no way off for the foreseeable future.

Rory
10-08-2019, 05:24 PM
tbh I'd prefer for Event Souls to only have chances for the relevant event characters. And for the rest of the slots to be things equivalent to the sacrificial hearts.

Like, for the Nightmoon souls. iirc that event, you had a tiny chance for Dark Lilith, a small chance for various shardborne, and then the usual pool 3-5 star characters.

Instead, I think it might be better for the nightmoon souls to generate Dark Lilith, the Shardbornes, and Moons. The moons being equivalent to sacrificial hearts of various levels.

Because it's kind of lame to do one of those event tasks to get an event soul, and you get something like that undead allied soldier which you get just for logging in daily.

I think getting sacrificial heart equivalents instead of normal pool characters would help player morale a bit too, because sacrifices get you useful stuff. Getting characters that you just end up sacrificing anyway is functionally the same, but the perception is different. Like, you get some sacrificial hearts, you think "ah well, lets see what I get for sacrificing these", while getting sandworms you think "Again ? Screw this nonsense!".


Ofc, whale-type customers who buy enough ironite to get 75 event souls for guaranteed things, might form the vast majority of the income stream, so it might be pointless to argue about this, but vOv.

Segoy
10-09-2019, 07:36 AM
tbh I'd prefer for Event Souls to only have chances for the relevant event characters. And for the rest of the slots to be things equivalent to the sacrificial hearts.

Like, for the Nightmoon souls. iirc that event, you had a tiny chance for Dark Lilith, a small chance for various shardborne, and then the usual pool 3-5 star characters.

Instead, I think it might be better for the nightmoon souls to generate Dark Lilith, the Shardbornes, and Moons. The moons being equivalent to sacrificial hearts of various levels.

Because it's kind of lame to do one of those event tasks to get an event soul, and you get something like that undead allied soldier which you get just for logging in daily.

I think getting sacrificial heart equivalents instead of normal pool characters would help player morale a bit too, because sacrifices get you useful stuff. Getting characters that you just end up sacrificing anyway is functionally the same, but the perception is different. Like, you get some sacrificial hearts, you think "ah well, lets see what I get for sacrificing these", while getting sandworms you think "Again ? Screw this nonsense!".


Ofc, whale-type customers who buy enough ironite to get 75 event souls for guaranteed things, might form the vast majority of the income stream, so it might be pointless to argue about this, but vOv.

Excellent idea, too! I fully back you up on this alternative solution, too.

Zugzwang
10-09-2019, 12:02 PM
Exactly.

If, at least, the music was better (edited). I mean - the themes and riffs are awesome (of course, coming from IM), but the overall music experience is horrible - loud bangs and change of music/style whenever you switch different "screen", initial "scream" at the beginning of the battle, etc. - I ended up running the game on silent (although I have the game running almost all day long due to grinds). It is just annoying - neverending loop of the same short samples. Now, if there was a longer/complex "soundtrack" that would play unchanged regardless of what you do on the screen (kind of as "Iron Maiden radio") - that would be an awesome thing!
If you go to settings and turn off either just the music or both the music and the sound effects maybe down halfway and play Maiden (or whatever) in the background it’s not as monotonous. The game does work nicely with other music playing apps. I personally turn the sound effects down about halfway and listen to music and they blend in well.

Ydex
10-09-2019, 05:28 PM
I turn music all the way down, sound effects at about 20%, then play the Powerslave album on repeat.

I like to leave a little of the sound effects audible, so if my auto-farming hangs on a full inventory, etc. I'll notice the noise is missing.

Bakura
10-09-2019, 07:49 PM
I turned the music off a long time ago.

Certain sections would play the same guitar solos all the time. It made me wonder if Adrian & Dave ever thought while recording them, that people would hear them a billion times over.

It's weird now when listening to albums, then that part of the song that you've heard in arena or gauntlet plays, and you get a little stressed or your mind starts thinking game strategy.

Natasmai
10-09-2019, 08:49 PM
Love maiden, but I have had all game sound off from day one. I don't even know what it sounds like. If i want to hear maiden, I'll play something from my collection

scott-5496
10-10-2019, 09:16 AM
Love maiden, but I have had all game sound off from day one. I don't even know what it sounds like. If i want to hear maiden, I'll play something from my collection

Me too. I listen to new dungeon music to see what they are using when something new happens but other than that I listen to my music through an amp and speakers, not through iPhone (though if I am doing some manual battles I sometimes stick in the headphones (maiden ones of course LOL) if out and about!

Roberval
10-10-2019, 11:34 AM
Hi! In the last floor give fallen angel frags? thanks

Blade
10-10-2019, 12:41 PM
I also turned down music and effect sounds after the first few weeks of playing. My mobile has sh!tty boxes and, honestly, this redundant sounds drive me crazy! Sometimes I switch the sound back on if there is a new dungeon or so but that's it. Playing on mute but having maiden blasting on the 5.1 surround system is much better in my opinion :)

wipp
10-10-2019, 01:08 PM
Slayer also syncs up to the game play quite well

edsel
10-10-2019, 03:46 PM
Slayer also syncs up to the game play quite well

So right. Best soundtrack for many reasons. Satanic violent destructive lyrics mixed with invigorating powerful sound. I always liked Iron M because the songs had history involved, like ancient mariner tale, Egypt Powerslave, Alexander the Great. It was like learning things in a fun format for the 80's stoner who rarely attended class. Slayer has always been my favorite band, and oddly enough their lyrics apply to the Legacy subject matter very well and the thrashing sound really makes it better than the in game background tunes. Like watching MTV with the sound off and playing an album you love for the sound instead.

Bakura
10-10-2019, 04:46 PM
I always liked Iron M because the songs had history involved, like ancient mariner tale, Egypt Powerslave, Alexander the Great. It was like learning things in a fun format for the 80's stoner who rarely attended class.
Damn, ya'll talking about me again? Hahaha ;)

We actually had a teacher who let a kid play Rime of the Ancient Mariner in it's entirety in English class, cuz we were covering that poem.

Unlike the 3rd grade teacher who wouldn't play my friend's KISS ALIVE 2 on music Fridays.
Seeing that album for the first time changed my life.

kkkreg5
10-10-2019, 07:00 PM
Damn, ya'll talking about me again? Hahaha��

We actually had a teacher who let a kid play Rime of the Ancient Mariner in it's entirety in English class, cuz we were covering that short story.

Unlike the 3rd grade teacher who wouldn't play my friend's KISS ALIVE 2 on music Fridays.
Seeing that album for the first time changed my life.

We got to hear Rime and Rush's Xanadu in my English class back in '88.

Discordian
10-10-2019, 08:09 PM
Hahaha... in 5th grade, we had to recite a poem to the class (we could read from the text) - I read the entirety of Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Which took like 45 minutes or something. My teacher was super-impressed with me, especially when I explained to the class (who by that point hated my guts) the themes of the poem.

Little did she know that I only found out about Coleridge from listening to Maiden! \m/

Bakura
10-10-2019, 10:27 PM
Speaking of Heavy Metal's educational influence....
If it wasn't for Megadeth & Queensryche, I would probably have grown up trusting the government and mainstream media.

Remember Dee Snyder and the gang fighting Tipper Gore & the PMRC in congress?

Missing class and gettin buzzed while headbangin' taught us a knowledge you can't buy in college..... at least the university I went to, anyway!

😎🤘

druid138
10-10-2019, 10:43 PM
Speaking of Heavy Metal's educational influence....
If it wasn't for Megadeth & Queensryche, I would probably have grown up trusting the government and mainstream media.

Remember Dee Snyder and the gang fighting Tipper Gore & the PMRC in congress?

Missing class and gettin buzzed while headbangin' taught us a knowledge you can't buy in college..... at least the university I went to, anyway!

Not to further hijack the thread, but if anyone wants to spend an hour listening to a discussion about the intellectual history of metal, check this out. The speaker, Don Anderson, was part of the best metal band ever (other than Iron Maiden, of course) - Agalloch.

https://youtu.be/0Y6DcENupuw

JudasFromHell
10-11-2019, 07:12 AM
well.... got lucky with Lucifer after all. The drop rate of the new megatoons is freaking low.

One question: anyone made a top 5 of the LoL's? I am close to 1500 fragments now. I already have the warrior, gunner and assassin. Would you guys pick magus over sentinel?

Yup
10-11-2019, 07:47 AM
Sentinel's Fury is a massive hitter..... And fully awakened the passive kicks in to grant immunity to Doom and Crave

Magus's Ghost passive is easily defeated.... But Fully awakened he gains the ability to instantly kill anyone with doom or dark ghost on them...

You're choice. There really is no "best" one.. it all depends on how you want to play and what other characters you want to use for support.

JudasFromHell
10-11-2019, 07:50 AM
Sentinel's Fury is a massive hitter..... And fully awakened the passive kicks in to grant immunity to Doom and Crave

Magus's Ghost passive is easily defeated.... But Fully awakened he gains the ability to instantly kill anyone with doom or dark ghost on them...

You're choice. There really is no "best" one.. it all depends on how you want to play and what other characters you want to use for support.

It will take an awful lot of time to fully awaken the toons i guess. So in that case i am going for the sentinel. Thanks dude \,,/

Bakura
10-11-2019, 08:17 AM
I would suggest looking at your 3* evo shards.... which ever color you have the most of, get that toon, then you can evolve him the quickest.

Just my suggestion.

HuckFinn150
10-11-2019, 10:13 PM
When will the eternity talismans come back? I was waiting on the reset to get my last and they were removed from the store.

ian16
10-13-2019, 01:47 PM
where the best lol to farm 1* colorless awake shards ?

maidenoz
10-14-2019, 06:44 AM
Hi all,

Any recommendation on which one to max awaken first - Lucifer or Warrior LOL (both currently at level 5). I'm kind of thinking Lucifer for the Arena, but Warrior is so useful.

Thanks in advance,

Olevipoeg
10-14-2019, 06:51 AM
where the best lol to farm 1* colorless awake shards ?
This is the question i'd like to get good answer too. I have grinded LoL dungeons XI and XII so far.

Segoy
10-14-2019, 10:56 AM
Hello,

Today, as at the last day of the event, I will have enough frags to buy a whole set of either Viper or Celestial talismans. I already have one set of each, but which one should I choose to have the second set of?

Thank you.

Muzzleloader
10-14-2019, 11:04 AM
Do you have sacred or blight?

Segoy
10-14-2019, 11:34 AM
Yes, I bought those, too (1 set of each). I have currently 2434 Fallen angel frags left. Overaly, I pulled out two G LOLs, bought 1 Cosmic LOL. I am thinking about buying W LOL and the rest of the shards will go either to Vipers of Celestial.

Natasmai
10-14-2019, 02:17 PM
where the best lol to farm 1* colorless awake shards ?


This is the question i'd like to get good answer too. I have grinded LoL dungeons XI and XII so far.

I wouldnt bother farming them. Its more important to farm the 4 and 5 * colored and colorless.

For the 1* I just used whatever I got while running the LOL XI-XV and bought the rest in the "specials" tab in the store. You use the awakening frags to buy them and the 1 & 2* packs only cost 200 frags. Way easier and cheaper than trying to farm them. Also, the awakening frags drop from the LOL and Ravens Altar dungeons in bulk. Ive spent 1000's of the frags and I still have a few thousand left.

Look closely at what each of the packs gives you. They all give some amount of colorless and then each of the packs is color coded as well.

Ip4
10-14-2019, 04:33 PM
75 morning star souls and no Lucifer in them,why always must be harder way?

AhabsHarpoon
10-14-2019, 08:21 PM
Anyone with a Gunner Onyx Son have a tali recommendation? Eternal?

LSMaiden
10-14-2019, 09:57 PM
After many hours spent on the event, I don't know how many sands of time and soul fragments I got TWO Lord of Light Soul.. Assassin TWICE!.... Are we serious?? Twice the same?!?! On this type of souls there must be something that avoid you to pick up the same character. I really cannot accept this it's absolutely frustrating! If there is a reason that will drive me to leave the game is this one...

Muzzleloader
10-14-2019, 10:46 PM
That's the game, just get used to pulling dupes in events like this. In the lilith event the first 10 were either red or blue. It took 17 lilith souls to get all five.

With the shardborne out of 7 souls 5 blue and 2 red. Got green with green frags no yellow or purple.

You are more likely to pull dupes repeatedly than get each individual. Many will confirm these findings.

I did get lucky and pulled 3 different soccer Eddie's and bought the second 2 before pulling dupes from souls.

LSMaiden
10-14-2019, 10:52 PM
I have already faced this situation with Lilith or Eternity Souls.... but this case is much different.. to get two souls it was hard in terms of time spent on the game and in terms of ironite. And also the possibility to get soul fragments disappear now (much different from Lilith soul/event)

I 'm asking about the possibility to swap one of the two Lord of Light soul I have, I'm really upset

Muzzleloader
10-14-2019, 11:05 PM
I dont think it was any more difficult to earn LoLs than when lilith or the Gods were released.

Beddie
10-15-2019, 06:18 AM
Welp shows over

Yup
10-15-2019, 06:41 AM
They really should implement some sort of no-dupe drop for new character in event souls or in new character fragments --- but of course, that'll NEVER happen.

Segoy
10-15-2019, 07:08 AM
I have already faced this situation with Lilith or Eternity Souls.... but this case is much different.. to get two souls it was hard in terms of time spent on the game and in terms of ironite. And also the possibility to get soul fragments disappear now (much different from Lilith soul/event)

I 'm asking about the possibility to swap one of the two Lord of Light soul I have, I'm really upset

Hi man,

I totally understand. I am in the same situation. I pulled two gunner LOLs - in pulls being done in two different weeks. I completely back you up on these. There should be some anti-dupe mechanism.

Then claim that they read all of these forums and pay attention to what are the main concerns of the players... To admins: I am sorry I just don't believe these false promises for already a long time, now.

Olevipoeg
10-15-2019, 07:47 AM
I don't have such troubles. I didn't get any LoLs from event souls. I did get Lucifer so I'm not complaining. :)

thealchemist
10-15-2019, 08:29 AM
I was lucky enough to get Lucifer via event souls (around 40-50) as well as a magus Onyx son. I got a warrior Onyx son from the onxy soul and the sentinel LOL from a 2nd LOL soul so luckily no dupe. Bought Gunner and Assassin LOLs with frags (in case G and A class are more expensive like Osiris and Set turned out to be) leaving Warrior and Cosmic to purchase with FC.

blade685
10-15-2019, 08:59 AM
it is just a dupes game, for last example: soccer eddies my last was 6 green lol :rolleyes:
Just a bad joke ^^

Ezz
10-16-2019, 12:58 AM
Ummmm I have like 4000 fallen angel fragments - and everything is gone from the store. Is the LOL event over? Am I stuck converting these into nothing now?

blade685
10-16-2019, 06:35 AM
over after the reset yes

Bakura
10-16-2019, 11:38 PM
Ummmm I have like 4000 fallen angel fragments - and everything is gone from the store. Is the LOL event over? Am I stuck converting these into nothing now?
This was in the LoL Mega Event in game newsfeed.
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edsel
10-17-2019, 12:14 AM
This was in the LoL Mega Event in game newsfeed.
64986499

Dude I would be pissed if I had 3k frags and missed out on buying 2 LoL or all the other stuff. This forum is a must for staying abreast of developments and strategy. I would fail miserably if I didn't have all my troopers support.

Ezz
10-17-2019, 12:51 AM
Dude I would be pissed if I had 3k frags and missed out on buying 2 LoL or all the other stuff. This forum is a must for staying abreast of developments and strategy. I would fail miserably if I didn't have all my troopers support.

3819 to be exact - and yes it stings quite a bit.

And also the newsfeed is wrong - you cannot convert these frags into precious soul fragments. U can only claim souls that when opened give the frags back. Infinite loop

Bakura
10-17-2019, 02:14 AM
3819 to be exact - and yes it stings quite a bit.

And also the newsfeed is wrong - you cannot convert these frags into precious soul fragments. U can only claim souls that when opened give the frags back. Infinite loop
Email support. They are supposed to fix that at the event end.

I had 950 fallen angel frags yesterday. I was waiting on some funds that never came through (was gonna buy 3x $10 paks for 600 more frags).... at 5 mins before reset, I settled for the Celestial talis and a cosmic rune.
I'm still trying to accept that. I was so close to a 4th LoL.

It would be cool if the Satellite 15 continued to give frags, 6 months from now u could get another LoL.
hahaha

Ezz
10-17-2019, 07:53 PM
NF support was super cool and worked with me on my blunder of missing the end date. Overall I am very happy and appreciative of their understanding.

Esquatcho
10-18-2019, 02:12 AM
NF support was super cool and worked with me on my blunder of missing the end date. Overall I am very happy and appreciative of their understanding.

Thats awesome to hear! Good one NF!