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Natasmai
10-21-2019, 05:57 PM
Much like Ferryman... once his passive is disabled.. he's a glass canon. So you need a "protector" or that 2 rounds doesn't exist. Head to head.. Van Helsing v Prisoner.. Prisoner will win.


Oh but you say.. Serenity talismans on Van Helsing.. sure protection against silver perfect disable that way.. not red passive disable. So you need immunity as well.... could do that via a cosmic. But then you start chipping away at Van Helsngs attack power.. It's all relative I guess.

He's not a bad character by any means, but there are holes. Like I posted on attack he can be great.. not so sure he's viable for defense though.

I mean.... A team with Van Helsing, Ferryman, and a toon with Singularity seems deadly as hell... Like Major, or cosmic/magus LOL... cant kill the singularity for 2 rounds, cant passive disable for at least 3 rounds... Am I missing something?

I think Van Helsing is outrageously broken and will need an emergency nerf, honestly.

Well until everyone is running him, then it is just a stupid 2 turn delay on both sides.

Yup
10-21-2019, 06:14 PM
There are holes... I've tested and have yet to find anything which "autos" and he works well with. Manually.. yeah you cna wipe the floor with him at times given the proper talismans.

trooper206
10-21-2019, 07:03 PM
Much like Ferryman... once his passive is disabled.. he's a glass canon. So you need a "protector" or that 2 rounds doesn't exist. Head to head.. Van Helsing v Prisoner.. Prisoner will win.


Oh but you say.. Serenity talismans on Van Helsing.. sure protection against silver perfect disable that way.. not red passive disable. So you need immunity as well.... could do that via a cosmic. But then you start chipping away at Van Helsngs attack power.. It's all relative I guess.

He's not a bad character by any means, but there are holes. Like I posted on attack he can be great.. not so sure he's viable for defense though.

Of course the holes should be there..Simply because a new character will be released next month that will counter celestials, orbits,the passive of Van Helsing, etc ;). Nevertheless, if you start with one of the two blockers that are standard in arena, and have singularity talis on a character equipped, this may do the trick.

It is all a matter of finding a good team combination that can protect VH's passive and attack a little decent. Then your defense will be somehow ok, I guess. We will have to wait and see after some experimenting then.

Muzzleloader
10-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Now you dont need to complain for awhile since you pulled the event toons.

URock
10-21-2019, 07:17 PM
Now you dont need to complain for awhile since you pulled the event toons.
If you're talking about me: there is always a reason to complain!

URock
10-21-2019, 07:47 PM
I will setup a fun-team on PvP with the Halloween 2019 Event-Toons, so that everybody facing my team will remember this great time we had during this event ;-)
I don't got the time to climb high in arena and I need to get down in rankings to get easier and faster Iron Coins.

Natasmai
10-21-2019, 10:24 PM
I'd like to play with a team for arena with van helsing, but I'm currently running a 100% defense, why change it. Keeping in mind I'm only in the 2500 reset area and I usually climb to mid 2600/2700 each week. All I need and takes no effort

GrimDusk
10-21-2019, 10:30 PM
Oh but you say.. Serenity talismans on Van Helsing.. sure protection against silver perfect disable that way.. not red passive disable. So you need immunity as well.... could do that via a cosmic. But then you start chipping away at Van Helsngs attack power.. It's all relative I guess.


Singularity Talismans block both, so just have a character with those on the team.

Yup
10-21-2019, 10:39 PM
Yeah.... we'll see :) MOST singularity wearer's are easily killed if you target them.... There aren't a whole lot of toon capable of 6 blue talismans.. and there are even fewer that are worth while once you reach a certain level. This is why Major Makov is so prevalent in upper tiers.

Like I posted... he's not a bad character.. I just don't see him as a game changer, that's all. I'm not a fan of using characters that are ENTIRELY dependent on some other character being alive. This is EASILY seen if you use Van Helsing on attack and merely kill the Alex Ed with Orbits first then deal true damage..... the rest of the team falls like dominoes in many instances.

I just don't trust the AI and defense.. that's the main thing. Manually on attack you can keep him alive rather easily.

Azagthor
10-22-2019, 01:43 AM
Dracula seems like he could be good, but he also has low health and defensive stats.
I faced a lvl1 Dracula in the arena the other day, and their team went first. Even at level 1 he nearly 1-shot one of my characters.


If you're talking about me: there is always a reason to complain!
See, you just gotta keep positive! No matter how grim things might seem, with a bit of hard work, you can always find something to complain about :D

blade685
10-22-2019, 09:57 AM
Event so far:
1st 10-pack of event souls: Gunner Werewolf
2nd 10-pack of event souls: Assassin Werewolf
3rd 10-pack of event souls: nothing but 4* and 3* dupes
4th 10-pack of event souls: it was the same pack as the 3rd
5th 10-pack of event souls: VAN HELSING EDDIE (my new trooper)

now going for the next pack to get Dracula with frags and than stop this boring event. (Graphics, music & toons are top, but too many times repeating)


6 pack = only shit dupes and one green wolf that i won with frags here you can see bad rng ^^

URock
10-22-2019, 11:30 AM
Event so far:
1st 10-pack of event souls: Gunner Werewolf
2nd 10-pack of event souls: Assassin Werewolf
3rd 10-pack of event souls: nothing but 4* and 3* dupes
4th 10-pack of event souls: it was the same pack as the 3rd
5th 10-pack of event souls: VAN HELSING EDDIE (my new trooper)
6th 10-pack of event souls: again pack #3 but enough fragments to buy Dracula

-event completed-

scott-5496
10-22-2019, 01:04 PM
Mehhh...


Van Helsing can help on attack. He'll take out the darn Alex Ed/Orbit combo in 1 turn in many instances, opening up the rest of the enemies to True Damage.... so.....

I haven't played much with G Werewolf. I've been focusing more on getting the Evolved Wicker toons - 1 left....
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And the reason no team is 100% is because of how Labyrinth talismans block 98% of all damage for the AI and that damn Assassin Wolf in the first battle. I've had 3 losses in 600 runs (then I stopped grinding for a while)... All 3 were due to that single Assassin Werewolf in the first battle.

I really like my wicker toons - one fully maxed so far and the other two are close - really good for daily dungeon and quite fun to play with in arena and gauntlet.

Volrath
10-22-2019, 01:30 PM
I think Van Helsing is outrageously broken and will need an emergency nerf, honestly.

Well until everyone is running him, then it is just a stupid 2 turn delay on both sides.

I totally agree. The next arena event is going to be unbearable because of him. You may be able to get him with passive disable sometimes but there are plenty of ways around that. And in the dungeon, you're better off grinding in Hard than Normal because the round with him adds so much more time since my guys just have to sit around and shoot the shit until those 2 turns are over.

URock
10-22-2019, 06:31 PM
I tested a little bit in PvP. Van Helsing is not broken and not a gamechanger. Sometimes strong and sometimes oneshot, but funny.

Hartacus
10-22-2019, 11:33 PM
At the risk of making myself look an idiot, can anyone tell me why I keep getting wrecked by the Madness Werewolves?
Hallowed Eddie - Orbit
S. Heirophant - Greed/Cosmic/random red
Musashi - Alchemy/Cosmic
A. Heirophant Eternity/Cosmic

Everything suggests to me that I should breeze through, immunity to true damage from Orbit, 1 turn invincibility from Alchemy and failing all that, endure for 2 turns from S. Heirophant passive. Am I overlooking something glaringly obvious or is it broken?

Muzzleloader
10-22-2019, 11:54 PM
Orbit may not be working. The alchemy does not defend against the reflected damage from the wolves, multi hitters especially multi hits per attack reflect damage per hit.

You need to have a way to stop the reflected damage and also have high HP. Many have struggled with this event. Without a few key toon/talis many cant find a 100% auto win rate.

Hartacus
10-23-2019, 01:04 AM
Could be that one of the mongrels hit everyone with passive disable, having watched it on 1x speed. That could be where the problem lies

Yup
10-23-2019, 01:05 AM
Alchemy's Invincibility DOES protect against reflected damage.. but only that first turn. You need to kill that M Werewolf before your first turn is over. Or have a team resilient enough to take the damage once invincibility is gone.

namaste
10-23-2019, 01:35 AM
All this game freezing with the thrown in bs of doom from characters that dont even have the skill is utter BS. Auto play is not smart enough to use the remove silver effects and it is becoming an utter shitfest.

Hartacus
10-23-2019, 01:51 AM
All werewolves die in the first turn, A. Heirophant with 3 rows of beneficial effects sees to that, unfortunately once all 3 die in one fell swoop, so do I

namaste
10-23-2019, 02:00 AM
After this last update almost every single run now in this dungeon ends up freezing....... X_x

Alvorada
10-23-2019, 03:11 AM
After this last update almost every single run now in this dungeon ends up freezing....... X_x

Same at LoL. Server doesn't handle the new feature.

Mateja
10-23-2019, 12:15 PM
Did anyone else notice they removed achievements for 600 and 800 runs? Not only they raised the required frags up to 1000, they took away 5 free souls (doesn't look much but it's a bit less than 2 mega refills of grinding) as well but only for the people who weren't fast enough. Another kick in the nuts guys.

Esquatcho
10-23-2019, 12:20 PM
Did anyone else notice they removed achievements for 600 and 800 runs? Not only they raised the required frags up to 1000, they took away 5 free souls (doesn't look much but it's a bit less than 2 mega refills of grinding) as well but only for the people who weren't fast enough. Another kick in the nuts guys.

I think they are there, just the order is all messed up now right?

scott-5496
10-23-2019, 01:24 PM
They are still there - just further down the list.

infinite dreamer
10-23-2019, 01:33 PM
At 660/1000 for Van Helsing. Haven't gotten a loss in over 24 hours and managed to lower the time between 1:30 and 2:00 (best time I've done is 1:08). Since I don't have gunner Minotaur, I'm using Charlotte (orbits), Gambler (mark, warlord, cosmic), KP (sustaining, warlord, sacred) & Magus LOL (celestial, cosmic). The mark talismans help a lot on the final wave.

Mateja
10-23-2019, 01:36 PM
Triple checked and restarted, they don't show anywhere to me.

Edit:
On another hand, catalyst soul drops in the dungeon are a nice touch. Got at least 8 of them in something over 400 runs (can't say how much exactly).

Hartacus
10-23-2019, 07:18 PM
Very late to the game working this one out but Insane is so much easier than Madness to auto.
Hallowed Eddie - Orbit
Gunner Minotaur - Strike/Invisibility
Assassin Heirophant - Eternity/Cosmic
Musashi - Alchemy/Cosmic
Absolutely shreds every round. Only parts that take any time are round one because of Labyrinth and round five because of VHE passive. Averaging around 2 mins

Unwon
10-23-2019, 07:35 PM
Almost done with 800 runs, gotten quite a lot of catalyst souls and probably 40-50 rare souls. Very desperately grinding for 1000 van helsing frags, will take me another few days

pepe-8610
10-23-2019, 11:47 PM
Thought I was going to grind this event and get 800 runs, but got bored of the constant bugs in the dungeon. Kind of sad actually, as this game has massive potential to be amazing.

Azagthor
10-24-2019, 04:45 AM
Thought I was going to grind this event and get 800 runs, but got bored

Compared with the recent Cosmic Cup event, the time/reward ratio for this one was way off. Going from 14/200 frags at 4SoT for the Striker souls, to 5/250 (10-pack) at 8SoT for Halloween kinda sucks. The doubled chance for a 5* does not make up for the souls being nearly 8 times resource intensive to acquire.

I made the decisions early on that I wasn't realistically able to do much in this event with my current character/talisman sets, and my time was better spent on the other events and continuing to work through other parts of the game. Did the 150 Drac run achievement, might go for the 200 after getting my Orbits in LoL. I know not all events will be achievable by everyone... but I now understand why the Frontier Dungeons are so popular! Being able to slowly complete challenges in our own time is a wonderful thing.

MetalKing
10-24-2019, 11:45 AM
Not a bad month. I got van helsing, warrior and magus werewolf. Plus I acquired virtual xi and notb. I'm still looking for an all sentinel team to beat hard Dracula. I have ffe and killer prime. Please recommend some characters.

Natasmai
10-24-2019, 03:10 PM
i think thats all you need... just fill in with other good sentinels. desert guardian is a surprisingly good toon, obviously any of the new toons... werewolf, pope, etc... but FFE + KP should handle it no problem.

Ip4
10-25-2019, 11:13 AM
40 souls and no event characters...what to say...

scott-5496
10-25-2019, 11:40 AM
40 souls and no event characters...what to say...

Same old same old - really! Event souls are never my friend!

Hartacus
10-25-2019, 05:15 PM
All from souls gathered around the event that I didnt already have:
Hallowed Eddie, FOI Eddie, Samurai Eddie, Angel Eddie (From FC farmed)
Assassin/Sentinel/Warrior Werewolves, Dracula, Musashi x2, Assassin Lillith x2
Still got 45 souls to go for VHE from frags though not gonna hold my breath getting anything else decent by then. Last character I unlocked from an event prior to this was Aces Bomber Eddie so Id say I was overdue some stuff

Bakura
10-25-2019, 05:33 PM
Same old same old - really! Event souls are never my friend!

Yep,..... The best way to get any toons is to grind.
Once you have most of the other toons, opening souls is just sac fodder.
Event souls sometimes will grant a common new toon (i.e. magus werewolf)..... but it takes a miracle to get any major new event toon (i.e. Van Helsing/Dracula/Ass. Werewolf)
It does happen.
But I dropped tons and only got a m. werewolf.... dupe.
I got Count Dracula from a regular mystic soul the night before the event, but only after opening tons of souls.
The other werewolves were guaranteed from grinding frags.
Even the 2x Halloween heroics I opened gave me my 3rd NOTB & 3rd Daedalus.

This is why I don't gamble.

Anyway.... back to grinding.... so close to Van Helsing!

Ydex
10-25-2019, 05:37 PM
I got Van Helsing, Magus and Sentinel Werewolf from event souls.

Pretty lucky...I could only auto the dungeon on Hard.

Ip4
10-25-2019, 05:51 PM
i am on 450/1000 Van Helsing fragment,do i have chance to autoplay befor event end?7 days?Also what is best ironite packs for 50euro?

Yup
10-25-2019, 05:54 PM
There's still a week left.

Ydex
10-25-2019, 05:56 PM
i am on 450/1000 Van Helsing fragment,do i have chance to autoplay befor event end?7 days?Also what is best ironite packs for 50euro?


There's still a week left.

Plenty of time for them to introduce some new, buggy features!

nitro
10-25-2019, 08:06 PM
I just open 5th mega pack and nothing.....

Stranger
10-26-2019, 02:46 PM
From 100 souls I pulled only 2 werewolves, a few 4* dupes and a lot of 3* garbage. The 5 free souls from compensation pack have gave me Dracula and a gunner Werewolf - the only one I missed. What an irony.

Ip4
10-26-2019, 07:42 PM
80 souls still only garbage :)

Muzzleloader
10-26-2019, 09:07 PM
It would be nice to be able to earn 80 souls. With all the crashes they are trying to make us purchase souls if we want VH. I guess this may be a new tactic to force purchases.

apeterrr
10-26-2019, 10:03 PM
Just finished the endless grinding for Van Helsing.

All insanity, using Alex with Orbits, Ferryman with hex, immunity and cosmic T2 LVL30, G Minotaur with primordials and Prisoner with primordials after trying all suggested teams. Lost average 1 every 30 battles. Spent around 1600 ironite.

Got 3 set of valor, Van Helsing, 3 G Wolves, 1 Count Dracula, 2 S Wolves, 1 M Wolve, 1 G Minotaur, 1 Hallowed Eddie, a few 4 star dupes and a lot of useless 3*.

So, a good event but very time consuming not forgetting the crazy number of bugs.

Muzzleloader
10-26-2019, 11:24 PM
If it wasnt for the continual crashes I would have a chance to grind 100 souls. I would like to acquire a set of labyrinth talisman as active as that of the wolf in that first wave. I've never seen my set block as many hits as his does.

Bakura
10-27-2019, 12:35 AM
If it wasnt for the continual crashes I would have a chance to grind 100 souls. I would like to acquire a set of labyrinth talisman as active as that of the wolf in that first wave. I've never seen my set block as many hits as his does.
Just like in Arena against Raven Witch with Labrynths. It literally takes 20 attacks (4 toons × 5 turns) to finish her off. It's why I hardly play. Then she keeps reviving allies while trying to kill her. Atleast Malakhov's time bombs keep her stunned and W. LoL reduces her Hp.
Meanwhile, if I put Labs on a Set, he crumbles like a cookie.
Hence the complaints about Arena AI boosts.
AI using Labs - 90% blockage
Player using Labs - 30% blockage

Ip4
10-27-2019, 11:20 AM
First event soul on 99 soul open(assassin werewolf)

Muzzleloader
10-27-2019, 01:26 PM
Ip4, at least you can grind. The game usually crashes each normal refill, overnight grinds cant be accomplished.

Ip4
10-27-2019, 01:39 PM
I was bored and because this connection errors buy 2x pack with 1500 fragment that help me to finally stop autofarming 24h,now I have time for real life things ;)

Muzzleloader
10-27-2019, 02:10 PM
That's what there are trying to do, make us spend real life money on something we cant attain by grinding due to their problem.

Ancient Mariner
10-27-2019, 02:43 PM
guess we'll soon deserve another compensation pack as i'm experiencing even more connection problems than before :/

Grunf
10-27-2019, 03:28 PM
It's now 4 days that i'm farming for last piece of Valor talisman, stuck at 5/6
I'm playing madness lvl, and it's frustrating.
anyways, i will not buy last piece, fuck you:rolleyes:

real_schweiger
10-27-2019, 04:47 PM
It's now 4 days that i'm farming for last piece of Valor talisman, stuck at 5/6
I'm playing madness lvl, and it's frustrating.
anyways, i will not buy last piece, fuck you:rolleyes:

That really sounds like bad luck. I´m running towards my 4th full set today - I don´t know whom to equip with all these :/

zzzoron
10-27-2019, 05:08 PM
Just for the statistics:
Grinded for 91 event souls = 0 event characters ( not counting the S/M wolfs).
I think I'll never buy event souls.

Unwon
10-27-2019, 05:39 PM
Crazy how many times throughout the day the game starts disconnecting. I play like 2-4 normal refills and then suddenly I can’t log into the game for 30 mins. I’ve lost much time to this and I’m almost at 1000/1000 van helsing frags which makes it more frustrating

Muzzleloader
10-27-2019, 05:41 PM
You are luckier than I. I cant play more than 1 normal refill without losing connection.

Amarthir
10-27-2019, 05:47 PM
90 souls in and I have everyone except for Van Helsing Eddie. Course now I can't get into the game so there's no way for me to spend all day getting the last 10 souls.

Muzzleloader
10-27-2019, 06:34 PM
Amarthir, they want you to purchase those remaing souls, oops you cant even do that. I know this will never happen but they should add several days to all current event due to thier problem not allowing us to play.

Ancient Mariner
10-27-2019, 08:01 PM
they should add several days to all current event due to thier problem not allowing us to play.
especially if you consider that these conection problems are taking place right during the weekend, that is the moment when those who work have more free time

Bakura
10-27-2019, 08:12 PM
Besides connection issues, what about like 3 or 4 events at once. At the time of this post, we currently have going on:
1- Dracula's Descent
2-Gauntlet ending
3-Sacrifice event
4- Shifting Sands event
I mean, come on!
Sooo much to do.... so little time for real life.

Muzzleloader
10-27-2019, 08:29 PM
They want your money, thier goal is to get as much as possible or have you quit playing. They need the space for more open wallets.

Ydex
10-27-2019, 08:49 PM
Imagine being a brand new player, downloading the game and it doesn't run longer than 5 minutes. Doesn't matter how many whales they attract if nobody can play the game.

Beddie
10-27-2019, 10:01 PM
What's the best sentinel team to auto hard?

The base for this team is Killer Prime

Maiden
10-28-2019, 09:36 PM
I´m about to get VHE in a couple of days and thinking at loud I might say some pros and cons :

First I decided to go for Van Helsing, before starting I thought "hey, never I had a stellar char before, but this time I only need to play and I´ll have the frags... at this time finally I got the Ironite to chase VHE, and also it looks like we have plenty of time for this, aaaand probably we wont have so many events overlaping like before..." so I started my first long quest (?)

At the begining, the event was really, really nice, the dungeon itself, the new chars, even the silly jokes in the storyline were enjoyable. Additionally in the first couple of days, the rewards were awesome, I managed to pull Dracula with the first 10 souls, and some 5* (dupes) appeared. Furthermore the challenging aspect of the dungeon was nice too.

After some days everything was on wheels, the dungeon gave you back A LOT of ironite so yeyyy, and even though I didn't pulled anything new, having 10 chars per round for future sacs was a good investment. Also, as soon you were doing the challenges you had that sensation of easy going.

Then, that 1000 frags goal was still far, and a some events started to pop up, almost one after another, and it started to feel overwhelming, at least the returning ironite it was good, and again that little relief of having some toons to sac was really nice.

Around the last days the feeling its really on the other hand, that last goal, those 800 rounds are really behind and the only motivation now its "I dont want to quit the dungeon after all the time spent here" but I´m not close to enjoying it anymore, I ve running and jumping from sac, arena, gauntlet and trying to understand about clans, and I even not mentioning the event shifting something that I'm just kicking ahead...

Today I'm playing the dungeon and I just wanna vomit, a lot :D but heeey VHE its so close (haha), its mental because I'm not sure if I ll like it´, but again I just dont want to lose all the time spent here...

Finally, maybe tomorrow Ill have that Eddie, I still think the event idea, the dungeon, and the goals were really nice, really! BUT with al played, almost no time to spare and so many things still to do, the final goal for VHE was way to much, I´m ´probably not doing again something like this...

Ye... all this writing just to say it the farming was to much but I just wanted to share it :D

Muzzleloader
10-28-2019, 10:00 PM
The last big grind I did was for the ferryman, that was before i took this account over. You only needed 75 souls for the prize, they did a 33% increase, so now you have to earn 100 souls. The ferryman event took 30+ hours of phone time, but at least it didnt have constant crashes. Then you could reliably auto grind over night so it wasnt too bad. Anyone try and calculate the time involved for this event, including the lost grinding time due to connection errors.

Ydex
10-28-2019, 10:07 PM
At one point I had estimated about 40 hours, earning VHE through fragments on Insanity runs + achievements. That was no crashes, 90 seconds for each battle/load time.

Bakura
10-28-2019, 10:53 PM
The connection errors are the worst they have ever been.
Instead of rebooting, sometimes I just leave it off.

A couple of times I have changed a whole team's worth of talis, go to the next screen, connection error happens, go back.... nothing stuck. I gotta re-do everything I just did, again.

But, I really love Van Helsing. I'm using him in arena. Along w/ his passive, he has a basic that cleans Doom, perf. Disable and perf. Death. Goes well with toons using Singularity & Orbit.

I have Labrynths & Cosmic on him.
He even won a battle where it came down to Him and Alex Ed w/ orbits. Ed kept healing, but eventually Van Helsing won.

Perseverance pays off. Get him.... he's worth it.

Ydex
10-28-2019, 10:56 PM
Another great VHE move-- he can Cleanse the whole team if anyone is stunned.

Maiden
10-29-2019, 07:45 AM
Hopefully by the end of the day, I'll have it!

Alvorada
10-29-2019, 02:31 PM
If I can play the game, maybe I could get him.

Close app due a conexion bug and now I can't login.

It is not a punctual problem, I not sure if a I played a whole refill without a bug.

IronIndy
10-29-2019, 05:38 PM
100 event souls opened and got all event toons except gunner werewolf mostly thru frags. From the time I started grinding on insanity till I got all 100 souls over the past week my ironite only dipped about 1200 from when i started grinding. Too time consuming in my opinion but not big hit on ironite.

Hartacus
10-29-2019, 08:39 PM
Thank the lord I never have to see that bloody dungeon again. 1,924 runs to get the frags needed. VHE certainly did the job on Gauntlet AA round 2 against the two Lilliths

Ancient Mariner
10-29-2019, 08:53 PM
After the first 15 souls which gave me nothing special I played enough to get 2500 frags and so other 10 souls.

While opening them I was thinking that after the struggle to get those frags through all those connection problems I deserved to get V. Helsing Eddie but it was more like a dream, and instead... Red eyes and then Bam he appeared! I reacted laughing my ass off, couldn't believe to have been so lucky but fortunately I was, no more need to grind

thealchemist
10-30-2019, 04:03 AM
Took my time with this event and only completed the 800 runs today. 3 Valor talismans (need 1 more to complete the set though) and with my last 13 event souls dropped today I got a pleasant surprise. Not only the Gunner Werewolf but the Assassin too. Can't complain to get 2 5* event toons from only 40 event souls. No Van Helsing but the next best thing!

Also a nice pull there Ancient Mariner with those odds. It does happen from time to time :)

Maiden
10-30-2019, 09:53 AM
After 2178 runs I finally got VHE: https://makeagif.com/i/x6f3mB

Blade
10-30-2019, 11:24 AM
Congrats, Maiden! I still have a lot of grinding to do to get him. Did not have that much time to play, the connection problems in the odd loss once in a while in insanity did not help here. Hope that the remaining time is enough, I would be ok with an prolonged event due to the server problems. Pretty sure I need all frags to get him for sure, as my soul drops were awful recently.
The frag demand is too high in my pov, but I know, many goals in the current state of the game are set for people that either play 23h per day or spend a lot of money.

Unwon
10-30-2019, 11:56 AM
How come you did 2k+ runs? I got 1000 frags from 1250 but I'm just doing a bit more now. Gonna end event at 1500 runs total gained FoTD frags at about 24.250

Maiden
10-30-2019, 12:06 PM
Congrats, Maiden! I still have a lot of grinding to do to get him. Did not have that much time to play, the connection problems in the odd loss once in a while in insanity did not help here. Hope that the remaining time is enough, I would be ok with an prolonged event due to the server problems. Pretty sure I need all frags to get him for sure, as my soul drops were awful recently.
The frag demand is too high in my pov, but I know, many goals in the current state of the game are set for people that either play 23h per day or spend a lot of money.

Thks Blade, and absolutely agree there yea... I only chased VHE cos I thought I had the time to do it (2 weeks looked like plenty of time...silly me) and the ironite but I just ended the event with almost no time to spare!


And Unwon, I don´t know, did you run it on Insanity? I did the whole event on Madness, I couldnt manage to assemble a reliable time on insanity, maybe it's that maybe it's just bad luck with the random frag drop, I had plenty of ironite in return though!

scott-5496
10-30-2019, 12:16 PM
I'll support any event where you are able to grind for the character - I can do those each time they come up due to me being able to play al day most days. So I welcome these but I have to say this was a major time drain and I really hope they cut back a bit on future events like this as this was pretty extreme...saying that it is better than having to spend loads of ironite/buy ironite for a character that is for sure...well for me anyway!

Pretty sure I got all that I wanted from this event too so no grumbles other than the time drain and my phone getting quite warm! Add this event to the sac and I have caught up on a lot of missing characters in the last few weeks so I am very happy about that......still no gunner mino (or sentinel) and no gunner pdk form heroics but I can live with that!

I now need to get my gold back up quickly as this the first time I have been under 100M in a very, very long time - likely a year or more! Starting to get the sweats just thinking about it lol......not helped with my gold costs for LOL awakens....just on the back of a major gold cost on the sac event too...oh well!

Unwon
10-30-2019, 12:26 PM
Ah makes sense, i did it on insanity even tho I lack bunch of good talismans as i just recently returned from a break and missed out on them. My mvp was bass eddie, the fury skill just made things possible. The ironite drops were amazingly high!

Maiden
10-30-2019, 02:09 PM
Ohh Bass Eddie has become such a good char, I finally found just now it in this last Sac event, I actually pulled 2 in less than 4 days (from rare souls).. and he will be in heroic rotation soon, I think they want us all to have it finally hahahah

And Scott, ye iit was a good sac! I lost around 20kk with the sac event! but it was worth it :D 2 Musashi, 1 count, 1 Redan! and some other missings char like I said Bass Eddie! so happy indeed ;D

Blade
10-30-2019, 02:19 PM
I'll support any event where you are able to grind for the character - I can do those each time they come up due to me being able to play al day most days. So I welcome these but I have to say this was a major time drain and I really hope they cut back a bit on future events like this as this was pretty extreme...saying that it is better than having to spend loads of ironite/buy ironite for a character that is for sure...well for me anyway!

Pretty sure I got all that I wanted from this event too so no grumbles other than the time drain and my phone getting quite warm! Add this event to the sac and I have caught up on a lot of missing characters in the last few weeks so I am very happy about that......still no gunner mino (or sentinel) and no gunner pdk form heroics but I can live with that!

I now need to get my gold back up quickly as this the first time I have been under 100M in a very, very long time - likely a year or more! Starting to get the sweats just thinking about it lol......not helped with my gold costs for LOL awakens....just on the back of a major gold cost on the sac event too...oh well!

I think we all love events were we can get the character in a guaranteed way! But this one is really really time consuming! Hope I will make it in the remaining time, as I cannot play the whole day. Also, daily reset time is tricky here, as you cannot stack up SoT and let in run over night, as the reset will usually stop it. I cannot say yet which characters I got, as I have not yet opened any Halloween souls. Fingers crossed!
My phone is also getting really warm, and I recognised that my battery cannot even load properly when the dungeon is running. Had this several times now.
Same is true for the gold here, first time below 100M since long time.

Ydex
10-30-2019, 04:58 PM
Ohh Bass Eddie has become such a good char, ...
I found Bass Eddie to be soooo boring to play, lol. Scrolling through his skills and they're all like, a whole paragraph of mediocre stat boosts. What groove did you find with him? I'm curious.

Yup
10-30-2019, 05:17 PM
Throw a set of Revenge on him... he's always been good :)

Maiden
10-30-2019, 05:25 PM
yea its kinda pain in the neck to learn every ability on him (although those are pretty similar at the end) but its been quite helpful as an assistant, cleaning silvers, powering up the team and removing golden buffs, I tried some heavy hitter teams for gauntlet relying only on him as back up and it did work! Sometimes with alchemist, other celestials, keep testing configurations.

Segoy
10-31-2019, 06:39 AM
Yesterday morning - FREEDOM!!!!

I finally grinded all the frags to buy the remaining 70 Helloween souls, to have 100 in total. I learned the hard way that I never have luck with event souls. So I had to farm for a guaranteed WHE (grinded only on madness, though. Ouch!).

So I dropped all of them at once and.... No, I didn't get VHE in the first place (....he was second:cool:) The first one was the Count!!! (assassin). That was really great, as I longed for him since its release and didn't get him in the Heroic Helloween souls either. Plus I have the frags for another VHE, Dracula, both A and G Werewolfs (naïve hope). So in total it means 5 or 6 5* characters.:cool:

But the time we had to invest in this... At the end, it was just soooooo booooring... The server crashes didn't help either.

Some general observations:
The Dracula dungeon had bot positive and negative aspects.

Unfortunatelly, I cannot speak out loud the positive ones, as devs are reading these forums and they diligently remove everything from the game that might (even slightly) benefit players.

Negative - if the devs want to keep the player base, they need to do it in smarter way. Not once during this grind I asked myself: why am I doing all of this? Sacrificing my time and family just to stare into the phone, to "get" some characters (that are really only 1s and 0s) and if Navigator frogs shut down their server, I'll be left with complete nothing??? Do I get something from the grind? Money? No. Food? No. Shelter? No. Then why the heck am I doing it? For satisfaction (like hoping to get a 5* character out of 99 rare souls)? Heck no! As Ahabsharpoon said - Legacy of the Beast - guaranteed chance of disappointment.

So, NF needs to carefully consider this aspect, because when people realise they are becoming pathologically addicted, they might just decide to quit, for the sake of it.