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Azagthor
11-29-2019, 06:30 AM
If you ever wanted to see which talismans all the enemies are wearing in Cyborg Dungeon Madness and Insanity without having to trudge through the dungeon with a notepad, it's your lucky day! Don't have any real tactical advice to give out at this point, but feel free to discuss strategy and teams down below. (Also, what do you think of this image layout, is it easy to understand?)

For more information, you can look up the Characters HERE (http://www.news.maiden-lotb.com/n3/character-en/) in the Compendium, and the Talismans HERE (http://www.news.maiden-lotb.com/n3/talisman-en/).



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Your face
11-29-2019, 06:35 AM
I like the layout nice work.

Brickster
11-29-2019, 08:17 AM
Yeah this is quality stuff. Keep it coming Azagthor. Thank you.

Blazpheme
11-29-2019, 08:44 AM
Nice work. I like the layout - simple and self-explanatory. Stuff like this is super helpful, so thanks for taking the time...

Bakura
11-29-2019, 01:37 PM
Nice job!
I was planning on going through the Labyrinth dungeon and documenting the talis on each toon so people know what talis to put on their team.
This is better than I planned on doing.

I can hear a newbie now complaining cuz they don't know what these talis pictured above are or what they mean.

Ooops, I just noticed your links to the compendium..... nice.
You nipped that problem in the bud before it got asked!!!

Segoy
11-29-2019, 03:15 PM
Thans Azagthor,

This is absolutely perfect. Simple and selfexplanatory for everyone. Thank you for going through the effort to prepare it.

DeathDealer-5301
11-29-2019, 06:35 PM
Awesome. I see peeps are still posting strategy over on the other thread. Maybe post a link to this so it's found from over there?

Azagthor
12-01-2019, 05:35 AM
I can hear a newbie now complaining cuz they don't know what these talis pictured above are or what they mean.
Ooops, I just noticed your links to the compendium..... nice.
You nipped that problem in the bud before it got asked!!!

Hahah yup, I decided to use the Compendium talisman images to make it easier for people to look them up over there. Just gotta look for the right icon! Had thought about using the little in-game square buff-icons, but they don't always match up with the talisman images, and are harder to identify at a glance. Compendium ones are much better, and properly colour-coded.




This is the team I've been using, gets around 3-3.30min auto runs. It's mid-range at the most, but does use a few event-exclusive talismans/characters. Should still be a decent starting point to help people with their own team building. As long as you can deal with Perfect Immunity and Perfect Immortality, Insanity isn't anywhere near as annoying/difficult as I'd expected.

Have had 3 defeats in 100 runs though, in different places, but it seems that Green Onyx Son can rarely be killed during the first wave. One loss was to Cyborg Eddie though, which shouldn't be possible due to my Orbits, so who knows what's going on in there...

UPDATE: The Rider talismans in Waves 2&5 can inflict Perfect Sleep on your whole team. Had been wondering what was causing that. Something to be mindful of.




Flight of Icarus Eddie
Lantern, Warlord, Cosmic
My strongest Eddie, capable of dealing huge amounts of multi-hit damage when Warlord triggers. Can cleanse and remove damage shields. Any hard-hitting and durable Eddie should work here.


The Killer Prime
Persecution, Shell, Cosmic
His permadeath passive helps deal with the Light talismans, and Bloodlust from his basic helps trigger my Warlords. He hits like a wet noodle beacuse I don't have any good talismans for him yet, but his job is to stay alive and debuff the enemy.


6* Warrior LoL
Orbits
Awakening his first level turns his basic attack into an AOE that removes Perfect Immunity, which a lot of enemies in here have. The Orbits help him cleanse your team and purge the enemy's buffs. The Orbits also mean the final Cyborg boss can't really damage you, as all he does is true damage.


Sentinel Onyx Son
Singularity
Gives everyon an Accuracy Up buff (super good with LoL's Extra Turn change), removes enemy buffs, revives fallen allies, and with Singularities, he will continually steal the shields the boss Cyborg gains every turn.

Bakura
12-01-2019, 07:25 AM
Insanity boils down to this:

Wave 1
The Boss Wrathchild inflicts Marks, so if you use Labyrinth talis, be prepared w/ immunity or Singularity on allies to reduce damage 35%.
The second G. Trixter has Frontier talis, he usually dies last.

Wave 2
The Boss Child of the Damned has Rider talis, they inflict sleep for 2 turns and heals self & allies when anyone's Hp hits 1, plus reduces damage by 50%. He can take a little while to terminate healing so much, but when he inflicts sleep, his attack can awaken you.... so no big deal.

Wave 3
Prisoner inflicts passive disable on all for first round and can inhibit your buffs due to his primordials inflicting perf. corruption.The Boss Gangland Ed has Eternity talis which can give all damage type shields, but he is actually quite easy to terminate.

Wave 4 The Boss Lonestar Ed has seige talis which grant immunity to physical damage, but he is actually quite easy to terminate.

Wave 5 The Boss Cyborg Ed Maxed Awakened has fury and a passive which grants invincibility, fully heals and revives all allies when his Hp reaches 1. He has Space talis that grant Vanish each turn and 35% chance to heal each ally every turn, plus grants all damage type shields for 2 turns to anyone who falls below 30% Hp.
G. Hellraisers (2) one has Rider talis that heal allies and inflicts perf. sleep for 2 turns when you reach 1% Hp. The other one has Lightbringer talis which grant perf immortality each turn. Those along with Eddie's passive, causes them to revive quite a bit. So inflict perma death to stop the cycle. (Killer Prime)

I'm sure there's alot more anyone could say on the matter, but after a day and a half grinding this dungeon, these are the major issues that stick out.
I used the above character/talis image and the compendium links to help w/ providing this info.
👍Thanks Azagthor

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Beddie
12-01-2019, 08:33 AM
Is bounty hunter Eddie with the hassle?

Yup
12-01-2019, 08:45 AM
It really depends on what characters and how easy it is for you to farm the dungeon(s).

Insanity isn't very difficult with newer, awakenable, characters. I've farmed it for a couple days and I've only got a couple thousand frags left. So it's doable with the right characters. I'll have BHE tonight. If you run insanity, the ironite return essentially makes up for the cost of a mega-refill, with about 20-30 short. So it's not as costly in terms of ironite as it may seem.

Bakura
12-01-2019, 08:49 AM
Is bounty hunter Eddie with the hassle?
I'm debating the same question.

I have enough frags for the Max Awakening of Cyborg and the T3 cosmic.
I will get that first. I think a maxed Cyborg will be better and more used in the game than another copy with a passive.

I have Tour Ed, Gangland, and Lonestar Eds ... I never use them.
I was skeptical of Van Helsing, but he's my #1 Ed.
I don't think Bounty Hunter's passive compares to maxed Cyborg's Fury/Passive.
And I probably won't need both.

I'm thinking I will stop this dungeon and go back to the Labyrinth to grind for yellow bricks to max out Cyborg and Cosmic LoL (to earn Lucifer) rather than waste time and ironite for BHE.
I quit trying to collect them all once I missed Guy Fawkes.

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*update..... I got him! He wasn't cheap or easy.... but he's worth it!!!

Azagthor
12-01-2019, 08:58 AM
Wave 5
G. Hellraisers (2) one has Valhalla talis that if they kill one of your guys, it revives their ally w/ 60% Hp.

Had to quickly double check this, but the Hellraiser on the left thankfully 'only' has Grail/Riders, not Valhalla. You'll still need to deal with Perfect Sleep though.

Bakura
12-01-2019, 10:07 AM
Had to quickly double check this, but the Hellraiser on the left thankfully 'only' has Grail/Riders, not Valhalla. You'll still need to deal with Perfect Sleep though.

Thanks for catching that!
I updated the info.

I think I got Valhalla on my mind because I don't have them and while repetitively visiting the compendium tali section it's the very first one, so I clicked on it to check it out.
Plus, I don't have Riders either, so I got confused.
In my defense, I'm going to be 50 in January and I smoked alot of weed back in the 80's/90's. 😂

I just wanted to point out some highlights I noticed while watching my phone play the game.
Also, I tested your diagram. It works!

scott-5496
12-02-2019, 10:14 AM
I am likely going to keep going on this one - there is an ironite cost but to be honest it is worth it as I won't have spent that much and I agree with Yup - you get most of it (not all of it) back. I too will get the new BHE in an hour or so and will then go for the T3 and whatever else I can get with what is left over. I was actually considering going for just 2 T2 or if I can a T3 and T2 one for the BHE and one for the awakened Cyborg but maybe not as that shows the height of my lazy ness in moving talisman around...yeah, no I will go for one! LOL

SyTreXx
12-02-2019, 11:23 PM
Hey guys can anyone check my trooper and help me find the best combination for fast farming insanity ?

I use wLOL / Viper / cosmic
M Lol / Alchemy/ cosmic
Madam / singularity
M football

It takes way too long and I get defeated 3/10
I need a better Ed I think.

I tried Alex/ orbit or hallowed / orbit and lost. Also lost with VHE.

Can anyone help me find a good combination? My trooper name is
Aviv-2226

Thx.

Nifelheim
12-03-2019, 12:38 AM
Aviv, I'd put orbit on wlol, and replace madame with raven witch (labyrinth) and for Eddie use flight of Icarus. Should be around 3 min mark.

SyTreXx
12-03-2019, 01:45 AM
Aviv, I'd put orbit on wlol, and replace madame with raven witch (labyrinth) and for Eddie use flight of Icarus. Should be around 3 min mark.

I don’t have labyrinth. Took me 7:30 minutes to win with that team..

Nifelheim
12-03-2019, 02:10 AM
I don’t have labyrinth. Took me 7:30 minutes to win with that team..

i dont have mLOL, so dont know how much it matters, but perhaps try putting singularity on him.

im using foi-with tower(from clan shop), beast(starfire) wlol(orbit) raven witch (lab) for 3 min.

beast was discounted in frontier shop last event, but not anymore.

Smudger24
12-03-2019, 02:17 AM
Hey Yup, you said the ironite return is pretty good. I've been farming insanity just with a regular 120 refill here and there. I usually get 1 ironite back, 2 if I'm really lucky using the whole refill.

Is everyone getting decent returns on ironite?

SyTreXx
12-03-2019, 02:20 AM
i dont have mLOL, so dont know how much it matters, but perhaps try putting singularity on him.

im using foi-with tower(from clan shop), beast(starfire) will ol(orbit) raven witch (lab) for 3 min.

beast was discounted in frontier shop last event, but not anymore.

I used Light on Foi, don’t see the point of putting tower on him since my problem, I think, is putting enough damage in the last wave. That space cyborg is annoying af

Thx anyway.


Hey Yup, you said the ironite return is pretty good. I've been farming insanity just with a regular 120 refill here and there. I usually get 1 ironite back, 2 if I'm really lucky using the whole refill.

Is everyone getting decent returns on ironite?

Pretty much the same for me..5 top.

Smudger24
12-03-2019, 05:01 PM
Has anyone found a magus team for insanity. Finished 2 of 15 manually. Since I'm not bothering with this eddie, thought I'd at least try some of the challenges.

Natasmai
12-03-2019, 06:59 PM
I used Light on Foi, don’t see the point of putting tower on him since my problem, I think, is putting enough damage in the last wave. That space cyborg is annoying af

Thx anyway.



Pretty much the same for me..5 top.

I see regular 10 ironite in the rewards on insanity. NOT the ironite/SoT/Gold etc you see in the first screen, but the actual items in the loot chest. it is usually 10 FC or 10 Ironite if you get the extra item


Has anyone found a magus team for insanity. Finished 2 of 15 manually. Since I'm not bothering with this eddie, thought I'd at least try some of the challenges.

I used Mystic Eddie, Ferryman, M LOL, and... Darkstar Clair I think? maybe not... Basically the best way is to cheese the wins with Doom/trigger doom. It's not great but it did it.

EDIT: I looked, but I didnt save a screenshot of the team for some reason. sorry.

Smudger24
12-03-2019, 11:14 PM
Thanks Natasmai, was serching and finally found one from Bakura I used.

M.Football Ed- Lightbringer/ Cosmic
M. LoL max- Singularity
M. Crimean Soldier-Inspiration/Sustain/Cosmic/purple
M. Wicker Evolved Owl max- Celestial/Cosmic

Worked on auto avg was 2:10. Thanks Bakura.

César Farfán
12-04-2019, 03:33 AM
The team I've been working on it:
Alex Ed: Vipers / Cosmic
W Lol (7): Orbit
A Werewolf: Starfire
Raven Witch: Eternity/ Cosmic
Starfire returns damage (as everyone knows) so, sometimes team wins without needs to attack. Additional, Assassin Ww has revenge, lol has extra turn, and Alex/ RW has echo on cosmic talisman, so, this way make much easier.
Got defeated sometimes, but 2/2:30 it's the time regularly.

SyTreXx
12-04-2019, 04:28 AM
The team I've been working on it:
Alex Ed: Vipers / Cosmic
W Lol (7): Orbit
A Werewolf: Starfire
Raven Witch: Eternity/ Cosmic
Starfire returns damage (as everyone knows) so, sometimes team wins without needs to attack. Additional, Assassin Ww has revenge, lol has extra turn, and Alex/ RW has echo on cosmic talisman, so, this way make much easier.
Got defeated sometimes, but 2/2:30 it's the time regularly.

Thank you!
Finally managed to knock down the time from 7-8 mins to 2:30.

I was sure I tried this before, but apparently not...

tex-0775
12-04-2019, 03:20 PM
I don’t have any of the (asshole) werewolves, so i went through a lot of combinations before i stumbled upon a “set and forget” team for insanity

Gambler with forge
Malachov with singulatity
WLOL with vipers/cosmic (not fully awakened)
AssBat with starfire

Fastest time is 1min 34secs, but i guess it was a lucky punch, time is usually 2 1/2 to 3 minutes, so not the fastest, but i have been running the dungeon for 6 hours (guessing here) and no losses (relics: 50ish%)

SyTreXx
12-04-2019, 05:40 PM
Who is AssBat?

Stranger
12-04-2019, 05:49 PM
Assassin Angel of Death

7138 (http://www.news.maiden-lotb.com/n3/character-en/angel-of-death-assassin/)

Caesar815
12-04-2019, 07:19 PM
I can’t manage to autoplay insanity. I have to play myself and I need to be very careful. So, it takes too much time and therefore I decided to autoplay madness with the following team: aver. time: 0:45 100% wins:

WLOL (9): Viper/Cosmic T1 +15%ATK
AlexEd: Valor
AWerewolf: Starfire
MLOL (8): Alchemy/Cosmic T1 +15%MAG

Works great, but not strong enough for insanity. I don’t know if I can manage ringer 15k frags more the achieve BHE. Otherwise, I’ll take T3 and the pyramids and concentrate on the BNW event more by now.

Ydex
12-04-2019, 07:35 PM
For anyone wanting to hit an Ultimate sacrifice in the December Sac event--

Cyborg Eddies sac for 9000 essence at level 1, 11250 at level 100. (that's 22.5 essence per level up)
500 frags at 29 avg. per Insanity run, that's a Cyborg per 17.241 runs, at 12 SoT per run, that's 206.896 SoT

So, for 45,000 essence (4 Eddies) that's 827.584 SoT

Yup
12-04-2019, 07:38 PM
y'all realize all this talk just means the sac event is going to drop shit rewards :) When you get a leg up, best to keep it quiet or they adjust to make it less beneficial.

SyTreXx
12-04-2019, 07:38 PM
I can’t manage to autoplay insanity. I have to play myself and I need to be very careful. So, it takes too much time and therefore I decided to autoplay madness with the following team: aver. time: 0:45 100% wins:

WLOL (9): Viper/Cosmic T1 +15%ATK
AlexEd: Valor
AWerewolf: Starfire
MLOL (8): Alchemy/Cosmic T1 +15%MAG

Works great, but not strong enough for insanity. I don’t know if I can manage ringer 15k frags more the achieve BHE. Otherwise, I’ll take T3 and the pyramids and concentrate on the BNW event more by now.

Caesar if I can auto insanity I’m sure you can too.

Try
Alex/viper
WLoL/ orbit
RWitch / eternity
G Minotaur / primoral

Azagthor
12-04-2019, 08:13 PM
For anyone wanting to hit an Ultimate sacrifice in the December Sac event--
Cyborg Eddies sac for 9000 essence at level 1
I'm leaning towards that... might get the Cosmic, the awakening, and enough Cyborgs to get my first Ultimate.


Caesar if I can auto insanity I’m sure you can too.

Try
Alex/viper
WLoL/ orbit
RWitch / eternity
G Minotaur / primoral

There have been a lot of varied teams being shared around the place. Some quite different to each other!

My own is slow ~3min, and only 98% reliable (Sent Onyx Son occasional gets killed in the first wave), but is getting it done.

Flight of Icarus Eddie - Lanterns, Warlords, & Cosmic. Can deal a lot of damage.
W.LoL - Orbits. Decent damage, and cleanse/purge effects.
Killer Prime - Persecution, Shell, & Cosmic. He's here to debuff, talismans are to help keep him alive. His passive permadeath deals with the Light talismans.
Sent Onyx Son - Singularities. He's squishy, but can deal good damage, and the singularities keep stealing the boss Cyborg's shields.

César Farfán
12-04-2019, 08:27 PM
I can’t manage to autoplay insanity. I have to play myself and I need to be very careful. So, it takes too much time and therefore I decided to autoplay madness with the following team: aver. time: 0:45 100% wins:

WLOL (9): Viper/Cosmic T1 +15%ATK
AlexEd: Valor
AWerewolf: Starfire
MLOL (8): Alchemy/Cosmic T1 +15%MAG

Works great, but not strong enough for insanity. I don’t know if I can manage ringer 15k frags more the achieve BHE. Otherwise, I’ll take T3 and the pyramids and concentrate on the BNW event more by now.


My friend, team I said before works well automatically in insanity.
. (Some losses, but let's say 1/10)
Got to say, I'm impressed you said need to do it manually.

AndyCatzo
12-04-2019, 10:41 PM
I can’t manage to autoplay insanity. I have to play myself and I need to be very careful. So, it takes too much time and therefore I decided to autoplay madness with the following team: aver. time: 0:45 100% wins:

WLOL (9): Viper/Cosmic T1 +15%ATK
AlexEd: Valor
AWerewolf: Starfire
MLOL (8): Alchemy/Cosmic T1 +15%MAG

Works great, but not strong enough for insanity. I don’t know if I can manage ringer 15k frags more the achieve BHE. Otherwise, I’ll take T3 and the pyramids and concentrate on the BNW event more by now.

I'm going to post the team I'm using to autoplay insanity, it is not as good as others since it is taking an average of 3:30 to 4 minutes per run, but it works (99%):

Alex Ed - Orbit
KP - frontier/cosmic echo
Mag Crimean soldier - mark/advantage/cosmic
Rwitch (awaken 3*) - labyrinth/cosmic immortality

AndyCatzo
12-05-2019, 01:58 AM
I'm going to post the team I'm using to autoplay insanity, it is not as good as others since it is taking an average of 3:30 to 4 minutes per run, but it works (99%):

Alex Ed - Orbit
KP - frontier/cosmic echo
Mag Crimean soldier - mark/advantage/cosmic
Rwitch (awaken 3*) - labyrinth/cosmic immortality

I made an adjustment to my team and now I'm getting 100% of success but the times went a little bit up to an average of 4:30 😅

Only change I made was Crimean soldier for W Minotaur with heal and invisibility

annouvis25
12-05-2019, 08:29 AM
I'm leaning towards that... might get the Cosmic, the awakening, and enough Cyborgs to get my first Ultimate.



There have been a lot of varied teams being shared around the place. Some quite different to each other!

My own is slow ~3min, and only 98% reliable (Sent Onyx Son occasional gets killed in the first wave), but is getting it done.

Flight of Icarus Eddie - Lanterns, Warlords, & Cosmic. Can deal a lot of damage.
W.LoL - Orbits. Decent damage, and cleanse/purge effects.
Killer Prime - Persecution, Shell, & Cosmic. He's here to debuff, talismans are to help keep him alive. His passive permadeath deals with the Light talismans.
Sent Onyx Son - Singularities. He's squishy, but can deal good damage, and the singularities keep stealing the boss Cyborg's shields.

i test it nobody dies and i clear the stage the in less than 3 minutes 10 battles auto 10/10 very good ceasar thank you i will upload and print screen

Caesar815
12-05-2019, 12:30 PM
Caesar if I can auto insanity I’m sure you can too.

Try
Alex/viper
WLoL/ orbit
RWitch / eternity
G Minotaur / primoral

Thx for your believing in me and my team buddy. I tried something different based on my madness team and your improvement suggestion:
I changed MLOL against Charlotte and gave her orbits. Just change AWw for another warrior and I can pretty easily finish the warrior achievement for madness.
Works perfectly on insanity. Takes about 2 min in autoplay. Haven’t lost any match out of 15 by now.

Caesar815
12-05-2019, 12:32 PM
And thanks to you, too Cesar. You also gave the believe and inspiration for a change in my team - so I did. And I succeed in insanity for the first time ever in any dungeon that had insanity.

Caesar815
12-06-2019, 06:19 PM
Btw: as far as the madness warrior achievement is concerned I changed AWw against KB with warlords/vampiric and cosmic T2 (chance).
Worked perfectly. 100% within 0:50 min. avg.

drrchmnd
12-07-2019, 03:47 AM
y'all realize all this talk just means the sac event is going to drop shit rewards :) When you get a leg up, best to keep it quiet or they adjust to make it less beneficial.

Considering the last really decent sacrifice event was 2018 halloween.....

Sohvar_nashtok
12-07-2019, 04:49 AM
I'm somehow still having trouble with the W-Madness challenge. Anybody have any suggestions? I have close to a bunch of these teams but I'm usually a character/tali set off. Sohvar-5797. I can auto Insanity (albeit a little slowly) but just not sure what to do with challenge.

DeathDealer-5301
12-07-2019, 05:44 AM
I'm somehow still having trouble with the W-Madness challenge. Anybody have any suggestions? I have close to a bunch of these teams but I'm usually a character/tali set off. Sohvar-5797. I can auto Insanity (albeit a little slowly) but just not sure what to do with challenge.

Thinking football Eddie with primordial. LOL with what you have or maybe orbit if boss is killing you., heirophant with singularity is a must, and the either a heavy hitter, or see what kills you and try to address it with 4th toon. Probably need to all be fully harded. Haven't played with some of the new talismans but 4th toon may need a 5 or 6 set, but don't recall what you have. Start with this and update what you tried if still having issues.
Look up the other thread if you haven't already, I have some post on this challenge and a few others also posted teams. Even I had about 5 losses to get 30 wins.

Caesar815
12-07-2019, 11:01 PM
Finally got BHE. Took a long time of grinding and a total cost of about 1,7k ironite I think. Now I try to get t3 as well 🤘🏻 Here we go again....

Sohvar_nashtok
12-07-2019, 11:22 PM
Thinking football Eddie with primordial. LOL with what you have or maybe orbit if boss is killing you., heirophant with singularity is a must, and the either a heavy hitter, or see what kills you and try to address it with 4th toon. Probably need to all be fully harded. Haven't played with some of the new talismans but 4th toon may need a 5 or 6 set, but don't recall what you have. Start with this and update what you tried if still having issues.
Look up the other thread if you haven't already, I have some post on this challenge and a few others also posted teams. Even I had about 5 losses to get 30 wins.

Thanks DeathDealer. I've only been playing 6 months and trying to keep 1 of every toon I come across so it's sometimes overwhelming to think over 300 characters and who's best to use for what lol. And they just keep coming out with newer shinier toys @_@.

Azagthor
12-15-2019, 08:49 AM
Alright, now the Cyborg dungeon is ancient history, it's time to look towards the future. For the next time-limited event dungeon, most likely Tiny Tim's Revenge later this month, would you like to see anything different or would these simple enemy and talisman combination images be enough to get you started? Shouldn't be too difficult to add people's team recommendations and tactical advice a couple of days into the event for example, once things are all figured out. I really liked Bakura's excellent tactical wave breakdowns on the first page here, I'll try rope him into doing another one of those again!

Beddie
12-15-2019, 09:14 AM
Yeah this guide was extremely useful