BOYCOTT this disgusting Cyborg Dungeon

[Cthulhu]

I don't care if the number of fragments is too high, and the fragment prices are also too high.

But when on each frequent "Server disconnect" this despicable dungeon charges a full round of SoT for NOTHING, this is where I draw the line.

On two mega refils, on the first this dungeon stole at least 228 out of the 604, and on the second run it stole 156 SoT.

You should boycott this particular dungeon and write to support that you actively boycott it.

Because at the end of the day, they are STEALING your SoT, which means your ironite, which for many of you means your actual, physical money.

I haven't checked if the same thing happens on other dungeons or not, but even if it happens on only one dungeon, it is one too many.

[Muzzleloader]

It not just this dungeon, it's the whole game. Nowhere to play unless you dont mind lost SoT.

[Your face]

I figure to get Bounty Hunter Eddie it'll cost most players $80 and that goes along with the 30 or so hours of playing just to reach 15000 fragments and the connection issues are worse than ever and character-specific talismans is a really really really really bad idea considering the Talisman issues they've already have had it seems more of the greed of the machine is really infecting all aspects of this game now and I consider myself a sucker for spending any money on this game ever other than supporting an awesome band. I have heard of player groups contacting Google and getting games taken off of Google Play until they fix their issues Google has a quality standard and if they do not stay up to that standard they can get taken from the available apps list just putting that out there

[Leviathan]

Hello everyone.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Cyborg Monday event. We will be extending this event for an additional 5 days, as well as increasing the Cyborg Fragment drop rate in Madness (from 8 -> 10) and Insanity (from 15 -> 25). We plan to push these changes in a server update later today.

We are aware of the current stability issues in game, and this event extension should allow for more time and flexibility to collect rewards. Please know that our engineering team's focus is entirely on improving server stability, and addressing other quality of life issues.

[MuzakMaker]

Hello everyone.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Cyborg Monday event. We will be extending this event for an additional 5 days, as well as increasing the Cyborg Fragment drop rate in Madness (from 8 -> 10) and Insanity (from 15 -> 25). We plan to push these changes in a server update later today.

We are aware of the current stability issues in game, and this event extension should allow for more time and flexibility to collect rewards. Please know that our engineering team's focus is entirely on improving server stability, and addressing other quality of life issues.

Wow!!! 2 whole extra fragments in a game we can't even play!!! Thanks for the help!!

Sarcasm aside, those 5 extra days and extra frags amount to a whole lot of nothing when grinding is a fools errand. I have not gotten more than 3 runs in a row without a server disconnect.

[Natasmai]

Hello everyone.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Cyborg Monday event. We will be extending this event for an additional 5 days, as well as increasing the Cyborg Fragment drop rate in Madness (from 8 -> 10) and Insanity (from 15 -> 25). We plan to push these changes in a server update later today.

We are aware of the current stability issues in game, and this event extension should allow for more time and flexibility to collect rewards. Please know that our engineering team's focus is entirely on improving server stability, and addressing other quality of life issues.

You have multiple players (customers) telling you that your game is STEALING from us.... essentially STEALING actual cash from our pockets... and your response is have a few more frags and another 5 days to keep getting ripped off even longer? Look the 10 extra frags on insanity is nice, and the extra 5 days seems ok, but this is a VERY tone deaf and inadequate response. Add this to the PATHETIC compensation pack you guys "gave" us a few days ago, and I'm wondering if you actually understand the gravity of the situation.

Look, shitty servers is borderline breach of contract with every user who downloaded the game from Google or Apple stores. Its probably not actionable by law, but we could make the situation very uncomfortable for your company's business relationship with Google and Apple. HOWEVER, blatantly STEALING from us what amounts to actual real world money is straight up internet fraud. This needs to be addressed in an appropriately sincere response in order to at least attempt to make it look like you care.

Ill just leave this link right here....

https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-fraud-schemes/internet-fraud

[Ip4]

VHE with new hat and wow it is new super van helsing
cyborg eddie with new hat and wow it is new super bounty hunter

fuck this....

[Smudger24]

I gotta say I've been getting increasing more pissed off at this game over the past months. This past week has been the final nail. Lost a lot of ironite and now sot from the game stealing, not cool. Sounds like you need VHE to be able to make this event remotely achievable, (which I don't have cuz of the last put your life on hold event) I've decided to casually play the game again, this event is ridiculous, ludicrous. I'm going to get back to my life. I already feel better. Yes I'll fall behind but what can you do. It's been fun for 3 and a half years, I'm going to try to make it fun again my own way.

Have fun every one else pulling their hair out for this thing, and good luck.

[Ydex]

You don't need VHE. I have VHE and I only ever use him for Assassin-specific challenges and Gauntlet. Alex Ed with Orbits can auto this dungeon on Insanity.

[Yup]

Cyborg Ed awakened just a few times also works (Space talismans)

[Saints_sin]

What needs done is we need SoT regeneration increased like come on most of us are level 100 so sure back when the biggest dungon was LoL X and we could get 15 runs out of a 120 SoT but things like mayan eternity and even cyborg where things are 12 and 50 SoT a run 120 just isnt enough we need at least 150 SoT minimum at level 100

[Yup]

I agree. No dungeon anywhere should cost more than 10SOT ever.. or they need to bump the SOT to 250 and the mega refill to at least 1k.

[MuzakMaker]

We are definitely missing the malice part. Let's just remember Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to Malice what could easily be attributed to stupidity.

Now I'm not calling the devs stupid but I do believe this is way more likely due to errors in the programming than a plot to steal our resources in the hopes that we spend more money.

[Ydex]

QUICK QUESTION --
what do you do when the dungeon just s t o p s ??

I'm looking at Wave V of Cyborg dungeon for five minutes, all toons just s t a n d i n g there


...


update: I hit gear/exit, and immediately a frozen wave of attacks completed, then the "Defeat" registered

[Yup]

it means.... servers are lagging :)... if it lasts for a loooooooooong time..... chances are you'll get an error that says new game data is available.... At least that's the common outcome here. But sometimes.. if you wait long enough it'll kick in. All depends on how important that run is to you... it's basically a crap shoot. After a while I just force quit and relaunch..

[Natasmai]

There are links within links on that page. Many things partially cover what they are doing, but not describe it entirely. A little bit of failure to delivery promised goods (a working digital product in this case) a little bit of business fraud, and some things that arent even described because how do you explain designing a game to steal the digital resources that they sell to you for real world dollars. Its complicated, but I'm sure the FBI would love to hear about how a foriegn company is doing it to their citizens. Or perhaps thw FBI would like to know that Google and apple are willing participants in the fraud. I bet Google and apple would take quick action.

I saw it. It may be an honorable attempt at reconciliation or an elaborate ruse. History of actions does a better job of showing true nature than does one post to the contrary, so future actions will determine sincerity. Time will tell.

[Natasmai]

We are definitely missing the malice part. Let's just remember Hanlon's Razor. Never attribute to Malice what could easily be attributed to stupidity.

Now I'm not calling the devs stupid but I do believe this is way more likely due to errors in the programming than a plot to steal our resources in the hopes that we spend more money.
I would agree with you, until you see the response that they gave us. IMO, that poor response shows some effort towards malice. At the least it proves complete apathy.

[Yup]

I agree that there's probably no malice.. but yes TONS and TONS of apathy.

[MuzakMaker]

I would agree with you, until you see the response that they gave us. IMO, that poor response shows some effort towards malice. At the least it proves complete apathy.

I don't see any malice in their response. I see at worst the apathy the Yup mentions and at best it's probably just some tone deafness that prevents them from realizing just how much these server errors impact us.

At my job, because we are actively developing we get what could be considered "priority access to dedicated servers" and I wonder if they have the same. I was not exaggerating when I said that I wasn't getting more than 3 runs without a server error and with the resource stealing that means I have to force restart the app each time.

[Smudger24]

I agree that there's probably no malice.. but yes TONS and TONS of apathy.

Decided to check out rating comments at Google play. Even half of the most positive ones mention connection problems.

What caught my eye though was some of the dates on the responses saying that they are aware of the connection issues and are hard at work on them, dating back to March and April. So I'm sure their hard at work on them now and it will be fixed soon... 😕

[Yup]

I've posted several times that it was the March 2019 update that caused the issues as I see them....

[Ydex]

1141 SoT, I walk out of the room, come right back and game has crashed. Log back in, 1097 SoT. That's 44 SoT (equivalent of 3.66 Insanity Runs) just *poof* gone.

[EdManDan]

Hello everyone.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Cyborg Monday event. We will be extending this event for an additional 5 days, as well as increasing the Cyborg Fragment drop rate in Madness (from 8 -> 10) and Insanity (from 15 -> 25). We plan to push these changes in a server update later today.

We are aware of the current stability issues in game, and this event extension should allow for more time and flexibility to collect rewards. Please know that our engineering team's focus is entirely on improving server stability, and addressing other quality of life issues.

As Christmas approches, the spirits of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come will visit all of you. :p

[EdManDan]

Maybe they should plug the servers into Steve's Bass Amps. :rolleyes:

[Mathi12]

This dungeon just stole me 60 SoT, it's nearly a full refill on my lvl 40 account.

What happened to this game? I played it a little at launch, but dropped it after a couple of days, but game worked fine. Now I'm back and it's a mess! Every single menu can get you a connection error, and sometimes like now it's literally unplayable

[EdManDan]

This dungeon just stole me 60 SoT, it's nearly a full refill on my lvl 40 account.

What happened to this game? I played it a little at launch, but dropped it after a couple of days, but game worked fine. Now I'm back and it's a mess! Every single menu can get you a connection error, and sometimes like now it's literally unplayable

Gives a new meaning to: "The sands of time, for me are running lowwwwwwwwwww...."

[Bakura]

1141 SoT, I walk out of the room, come right back and game has crashed. Log back in, 1097 SoT. That's 44 SoT (equivalent of 3.66 Insanity Runs) just *poof* gone.
If you sit on the toilet 'till your legs go numb while looking at your phone, no problems occur.
.... But, as soon as you doze off or walk out of the room.... BAM! ... connection error.

😉 True story.

[EdManDan]

If you sit on the toilet 'till your legs go numb while looking at your phone, no problems occur.
.... But, as soon as you doze off or walk out of the room.... BAM! ... connection error.

 True story.


The real question is: Do you wash your hands after? :eek:

[Blazpheme]

I did the math, and realized that I would never be able to get enough frags for this new character without spending thousands of ironite that I don't even have.

I have no desire to punish myself, my tablet, and my bank account just to get this new Alternate Eddie that will probably pop up later in some banner packs or heroic souls anyway.

Instead, I have decided to skip this whole miserable event...

[Cthulhu]

This dungeon just stole me 60 SoT, it's nearly a full refill on my lvl 40 account.

What happened to this game? I played it a little at launch, but dropped it after a couple of days, but game worked fine. Now I'm back and it's a mess! Every single menu can get you a connection error, and sometimes like now it's literally unplayable

From my point of view, they have too much junk code from the earlier versions of the game, and this is why every new addition has so many freaking problems.

Up until one week ago, the Gauntet was completely broken, awakened characters would be constantly available throughout the S, SS, and SSS ranks. You could have in total 100 gauntlet wins and not even be in the top-50 of the Gauntlet ranking.

(of course, people would not complain about the Gauntlet state. Go figure)

I have said it again, the developers should bite the fucking bullet and remake the game from scratch. This will have a considerable cost, but now with all those endless problems, in the long run, they will spend more time and money for a truly mediocre end result.

[Mario.Ahner]

No malice? They answered here in this thread, so they know, that at the moment the game is stealing resources from the players. Not stopping the "event" ist the intent needed for fraud. If someone would sue them at the moment, they would be in big trouble.

Also helpful would be, if enough players would ask for refund at Google/Apple

[Neuritico]

I agree with most of part of your complains...it's very expensive event, stability of server is not 100% and for some reason who play by Iphone situation is also worse than Android...it happen to lose SOT sometime Ironite...and sometime during the fight happen something strange (final boss is able to find some good trick not listed in his skills or talismans). But aside all this...that they should fix as soon as possible, I really like this event, especially music. This time we ca hear bought somewhere in time also with Bruce as vocal. Quality of characters used for this event is also good.

[Bakura]

The real question is: Do you wash your hands after? :eek:

There's no need to.... I poop marshmallows!
(Joke)
Hell yeah, I wash.... probably too many times a day. LoL

But my point is... sometimes the connection errors are so bad, you have to take your phone everywhere to monitor it while grinding events.
*Like when you shower, stick your head out the curtain to make sure it's still going.
*Or while getting busy with a chic, stop to gulp some gatorade and check your phone to be sure your grinding while you're grinding.
*Or while at a funeral, you sit near the window to make sure you get a good cell signal, but sit in the back so as not to look disrespectful while checking your dungeon grinding during the eulogy.

.... and so on, and so on. Hahahaha🤣

[EdManDan]

There's no need to.... I poop marshmallows!
(Joke)
Hell yeah, I wash.... probably too many times a day. LoL

But my point is... sometimes the connection errors are so bad, you have to take your phone everywhere to monitor it while grinding events.
*Like when you shower, stick your head out the curtain to make sure it's still going.
*Or while getting busy with a chic, stop to gulp some gatorade and check your phone to be sure your grinding while you're grinding.
*Or while at a funeral, you sit near the window to make sure you get a good cell signal, but sit in the back so as not to look disrespectful while checking your dungeon grinding during the eulogy.

.... and so on, and so on. Hahahaha藍

I know exactly what you mean. rotf :D

[Caesar815]

There's no need to.... I poop marshmallows!
(Joke)
Hell yeah, I wash.... probably too many times a day. LoL

But my point is... sometimes the connection errors are so bad, you have to take your phone everywhere to monitor it while grinding events.
*Like when you shower, stick your head out the curtain to make sure it's still going.
*Or while getting busy with a chic, stop to gulp some gatorade and check your phone to be sure your grinding while you're grinding.
*Or while at a funeral, you sit near the window to make sure you get a good cell signal, but sit in the back so as not to look disrespectful while checking your dungeon grinding during the eulogy.

.... and so on, and so on. Hahahaha🤣

You made that point really clear bakura 😂. I totally agree with you ... as usual 🤘🏻 That’s how the road goes while grinding

[Caesar815]

It not just this dungeon, it's the whole game. Nowhere to play unless you dont mind lost SoT.

Just stealing SoT would be not that big problem in contrast to stealing ironite.

The fact with vanishing ironite is discussed on another thread, I know. But this just concentrated on the es fact of refreshing the r list in the arena. It also happens when you revive in a dungeon and get the loading icon. I lost for one revive in cyborg madness 175 ironite!!!!

This is NOT amusing any more!

[EdManDan]

Before going through all that trouble, I'd quit the game.

Instructions on how to quit a game that you're addicted too.

Have a few beers. (In this case not Trooper Beer, since you mad at Maiden).

Once the liquid courage kicks in, go to the sacrifice tab.

Have a few more beers.

Then start strong.
Start with all the collectibles and send them to the alter.
Then move down the list.

Wake up the next morning with a strange feeling of freedom.

Up the irons! I mean down the irons in this case ;)

[AncientEvil]

I have absolutely had it with this bs!!! One week of winning with a new character, followed by another week of winning with a new character that makes everything in its wake obsolete, on repeat.

Everything sucks except for the featured awakenables and overpowered crap.

Keep my money and buy yourself something nice, it's the last penny I spend on this monstrosity of bugs.

You've had 3+1/2 years to fix your goddamn game and it's worse than ever. The bugs list is a mile long. I've been here 5 months and lost over 2 weeks of gameplay because of bad login errors, astoundingly long updates, and just straight up unplayable lag.

Stop telling us nothing and do something moderators.

[AncientEvil]

Fine. This competition has bled me dry of money anyways.

[Muzzleloader]

If you dont spend money the game is a real challenge to stay up on toons/talis. With enough money the game isnt challenging such as any freemium game.

[Neuritico]

You’re right but what I’m saying is if you take a break then come back and spend whatever disposable income to spend on this game — the stuff you missed is irrelevant as far as “keeping up” because there is a brand new meta so you’re right there with the pack of current cashers. If a meta is really fun or there is cool new content then I’ll spend money if it’s not my favorite I’ll spend much less or not at all for a bit. I’ve never spent enough to take away the challenge though. That would defeat the purpose of playing (for me) in the first place.

What you say is right, but I noticed you already got BH, already maxed, considering that only 3 days passed from the launch of this event, it just means you bought at least 7/8 fragment's packs maybe 10 of them. that's your business and I wanted to do the same too, just I stopped myself because 24000 Yen for a toon it's very too much and that's not the end... 10000 fragments * 2 for cosmic talismans, skill fragments, time, SOT, Ironite and all the other staffs for to evolve/awake 2 toons.....it's simply too much expensive..... " it should have been Black Friday discount".

[Saigrim]

What you say is right, but I noticed you already got BH, already maxed, considering that only 3 days passed from the launch of this event, it just means you bought at least 7/8 fragment's packs maybe 10 of them. that's your business and I wanted to do the same too, just I stopped myself because 24000 Yen for a toon it's very too much and that's not the end... 10000 fragments * 2 for cosmic talismans, skill fragments, time, SOT, Ironite and all the other staffs for to evolve/awake 2 toons.....it's simply too much expensive..... " it should have been Black Friday discount".

Actually, I should have him later this evening, and I haven’t spent a dime. I’ve been stockpiling ironite for some time as I just don’t feel the rush to awaken every toon the moment I get them. Granted, my phones been running all friggin weekend, but once I got started I decided to just do it quick and be done with it. I’ll probably have enough evenings over the next week to earn the T3 cosmic and call it a day.

Also, I don’t have all the dungeon achievement characters, but knowing they are there any time I take a notion to go get them takes the need out of me to have them right this second.

[Muzzleloader]

That's why you have to realize some people spend alot of real money in this game. You cant be a top player without deep pockets. Even if the items are earned and not purchased, you need inexhaustible supply of ironite. Thank those who do spend money on the game, they keep the utilities paid.

[drrchmnd]

That's why you have to realize some people spend alot of real money in this game. You cant be a top player without deep pockets. Even if the items are earned and not purchased, you need inexhaustible supply of ironite. Thank those who do spend money on the game, they keep the utilities paid.

Only thing I am going to disagree on is the deep pockets. IF they put out a good 5$ purchase a week they would be making bank. By that I mean a random soul or three where you can get anything from a rare soul to a mythical plus ironite plus SoT etc... or event boosters (shards talisman etc) even if it is a random quantity (with a minimum) or quality item...

This would probably kick start a lot of spending but they don't do it regularly enough to make it worth while. Most people are going to go crap I need X amount of gold/ironite/SoT/SoW/etc and mutter about how expensive it is. But if you need 500k in gold and you can get it plus ironite plus a rare for 5$ or some combination along these lines would you spend the $?

[Ydex]

Those dungeon key packs are a good little under-5$ purchase. A real micro-transaction, as it should be.

They need to add Eternal and Labyrinth, though. Some of us DON'T have every character, and need the FC.

[Muzzleloader]

I am not talking about micro transactions. I am talking about earning every new toon/talis that either requires massive grinding or outright purchase with real dollars or in game currencies.

For those who have maxed all or nearly all the awakenables characters. Many had resources from years of playing. The grinding to earn the awakenable evo material took some serious grinding which requires time and ironite. Micro transactions would not earn those resources.

I inherited this account, my uncle hoarded alot of resources. This has allowed me to coast as I slowly am losing interest in this game. I am not complaining that people spend money to be in the top, that is how games are designed.

[Ydex]

The Awakening is expensive as fuck. I thought I'd approach this latest event like, all I'm gonna do is get a Cyborg Ed, Awaken him, and get a decent Talisman. My thinking was, literally, I just needed a good Gunner Ed--and not going for the "top prize" would be more conservative. Well guess who just spent 90$ on 300 yellow bricks? Turns out, there's really no other way to get THREE HUNDRED of them. And since I've already gotten the 6 last-stage awakening materials, what else am I gonna do? NOT complete the one thing I was trying to do?

Guess there was a good reason I've steered clear of Awakening up until now.

I still don't know how I'm gonna get 10+ more 5* gunner awakening shards. And--here's the kicker--I can't even use the Talisman until I do.

This will be my first and last awakened character.

[Azagthor]

The Awakening is expensive as fuck. I thought I'd approach this latest event like, all I'm gonna do is get a Cyborg Ed, Awaken him, and get a decent Talisman.
This will be my first and last awakened character.

That was my thinking when I started this event. I already had Cyborg Eddie, so might as well grab those Awakening Shards and whichever Cosmic seems realistic for me to earn. Then you remember I can't actually farm the upper LoL levels yet, and even if I could, the extreme SoT costs there (35 in XV right?) means you're probably looking at a pretty high ironite cost to get enough fragments to Awaken Cyborg. Bounty Hunter, which not having Cyborg's awakened skills, starts to sound more attractive... while his skills are the same as un-awakened Cyborg, at least he ONLY requires ironite, and can use the cosmic, and can be used right away, instead of in some future where Cyborg wll be outclassed by the time I finally awaken him. I should stop thinking...

[Ydex]

I'm too stubborn to change course at this point. They know that once you've invested yourself in something you'll do whatever it takes to follow through with it.

[Neuritico]

I bought enough packs to get the T3 cyborg cosmic right away before they raised the drops. After they raised them I was able to run insanity nonstop for about 22 hours with only a couple disconnects due to the mega refills I bought. I grabbed the Bounty Hunter Ed today. Now I’m just runnin normal Level cyborg dungeon at night to see if I get the little achievement for doing it 150x15 times totals runs. I like clearing those just for fun. Not because I want the rewards. Something relaxing about completing event challenges.

I’ve also been seriously culling my talismans and toons over the last day. I’m thinking of changing the combos I’ve been using and dropping the extra dead weight so I can be more creative with my setups. I made about 200 million gold selling all but one or two sets of the talismans I want to keep. This is the second time I’ve done it since the game was released. It’s very cathartic for me actually. I get tired of playing only the current meta and like to see some other combos work. It’s a shame there are still a lot of bugs that can hinder that enjoyment but the connectivity has been better the last couple days so there’s that.

I agree with your point of view about the mechanics of game. this is kinda card's game with some more features around them; App store is plenty of games like this, i play it 'coz Iron Maiden, Concept Art and music. Such kind of games are intended for new players...veterans after a bit become annoyance, new players (newbee) they arrive, buy, play, give good feedbacks, then after a certain amount of playing they should leave and go for other games. the problem who is rising now each new event becoming expensive more and more....so basically it might be there are more veterans still playing than new players downloading the game?

[namaste]

If you sit on the toilet 'till your legs go numb while looking at your phone, no problems occur.
.... But, as soon as you doze off or walk out of the room.... BAM! ... connection error.

😉 True story.

Lol... so true :)

[Natasmai]

The Awakening is expensive as fuck. I thought I'd approach this latest event like, all I'm gonna do is get a Cyborg Ed, Awaken him, and get a decent Talisman. My thinking was, literally, I just needed a good Gunner Ed--and not going for the "top prize" would be more conservative. Well guess who just spent 90$ on 300 yellow bricks? Turns out, there's really no other way to get THREE HUNDRED of them. And since I've already gotten the 6 last-stage awakening materials, what else am I gonna do? NOT complete the one thing I was trying to do?

Guess there was a good reason I've steered clear of Awakening up until now.

I still don't know how I'm gonna get 10+ more 5* gunner awakening shards. And--here's the kicker--I can't even use the Talisman until I do.

This will be my first and last awakened character.

getting the bricks has become extremely easy, im not sure why you would have an issue. Especially gunner bricks. They drop in the Labyrinth (gunner & colorless), Gangland (gunner & assassin), Raven's Altar, and the Airstrip (gunner & warrior) Frontier dungeons in varying quantities. I believe Labyrinth is probably the best droprate, but also the most difficult option. Airstrip or gangland is likely the next best and both are super easy to clear. Raven's is more of a catch all as it drops all colors.

[Ydex]

getting the bricks has become extremely easy, im not sure why you would have an issue. Especially gunner bricks. They drop in the Labyrinth (gunner & colorless), Gangland (gunner & assassin), Raven's Altar, and the Airstrip (gunner & warrior) Frontier dungeons in varying quantities. I believe Labyrinth is probably the best droprate, but also the most difficult option. Airstrip or gangland is likely the next best and both are super easy to clear. Raven's is more of a catch all as it drops all colors.

I was aware of Labyrinth dungeon, but I can't afford FC for dungeon keys. I'm saving for KP. Because a Labyrinth hasn't randomly dropped for me, and isn't available in a micro-transaction, I don't have a key.

Thanks for the tip on Raven's Altar, Gangland, Airstrip. This is my first awakened character.


Any pointers on picking up 5-star Gunner Awakening Shards? Turns out I was mixed up on 4/5-stars and now only need two fives ... grinding LoL XV

[Natasmai]

use the awakening frags to purchase the 5* colored items you need. Unfortunately it is the only reliable way to get what you need. If you are a super lucky gambler... try using the awakening souls to hope for the ones you need... but my rule is "Hope in one hand and Sh!t in the other, see which one fills up first". It is far safer to just spend the 1000 frags per 5* and be done with it.

[Ydex]

Thanks, I figured. I've always popped the awakening souls for the 3200 sacrifice essence, but turns out I should have been saving the frags. Well anyway, I've got a huge backlog of random awakening material.

Now grinding for one more 5* gunner awakening shard and I'll have my MAX Cyborg. Got the T3 talisman, too. Should be a good farming Eddie.


...


eta: 1200 SoT on LoL XV. 3 defeats, 3 draws. 540 awakening frags. One more run should do it.