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Smudger24
12-05-2019, 04:38 PM
Cyborg dungeon is dropping onslaught primordials and I have some will from before. Does anyone have bulwark ones? I've never seen them.
Caesar815
12-05-2019, 04:43 PM
Yes, they really do exist. Got 6 each, so I have 3 complete sets. I don’t know wehrte and why 🙄
edsel
12-05-2019, 04:48 PM
When introduced at the bugged sac even they were only Bulwark. Now Onslaught and Will have been available also. You should have seen them before they were nerfed three weeks after their intro-so much more powerful than now.
Smudger24
12-05-2019, 04:59 PM
When introduced at the bugged sac even they were only Bulwark. Now Onslaught and Will have been available also. You should have seen them before they were nerfed three weeks after their intro-so much more powerful than now.

Oh no I remember before they got nerfed. I missed out on getting them in the beginning, and yes I hated them. I may have even missed the second time they came available cuz I was away or something. I was pissed.
Yup
12-05-2019, 07:29 PM
There's another dungeon that drops them.. can't recall which.. Gangland? Airstrip? Labyrinth?... Somewhere though.
MetalKing
12-06-2019, 03:57 AM
I paid real cash to earn them at the time before the nerf. When it happened I almost quit the game. Buyer beware.
HK-47
12-06-2019, 04:47 AM
What was the original effect of Primordials?
infinite dreamer
12-06-2019, 02:19 PM
What was the original effect of Primordials?

Here's the thread introducing them:

https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10290-Ancient-Power-Sacrifice-Event-Sacrifice-Characters-for-EXCLUSIVE-Talismans!&highlight=primordial
teys285
12-06-2019, 03:02 PM
Has anyone got any Primordial drops? I was very excited when I saw that they were rewards, because I don't have any, but I didn't have any drops whatsoever. I'm half way throgh the 400 runs and no sign of talis... I'm only able to auto duel the Hard, but even when I manually do the Madness, i don't get the damn talisman... Are they really that rare, or I'm very, very unlucky?
Mateja
12-06-2019, 03:14 PM
Has anyone got any Primordial drops? I was very excited when I saw that they were rewards, because I don't have any, but I didn't have any drops whatsoever. I'm half way throgh the 400 runs and no sign of talis... I'm only able to auto duel the Hard, but even when I manually do the Madness, i don't get the damn talisman... Are they really that rare, or I'm very, very unlucky?

It's completely random. Someone gets a full set in 200 runs and someone goes up to 500 for a single talisman. They drop frequently on insanity, i have several sets so i didn't count but i'd say 5-8 dropped in my 500+ runs.
Lower difficulties drop them less often too.
infinite dreamer
12-06-2019, 04:11 PM
Has anyone got any Primordial drops? I was very excited when I saw that they were rewards, because I don't have any, but I didn't have any drops whatsoever. I'm half way throgh the 400 runs and no sign of talis... I'm only able to auto duel the Hard, but even when I manually do the Madness, i don't get the damn talisman... Are they really that rare, or I'm very, very unlucky?

Sounds kind of unlucky. I've gotten 19 or so from 1,388 runs. They do tend to drop in bunches from what I noticed.
Caesar815
12-06-2019, 04:33 PM
Sounds kind of unlucky. I've gotten 19 or so from 1,388 runs. They do tend to drop in bunches from what I noticed.

I got 3 in about 1k runs
real_schweiger
12-06-2019, 04:51 PM
sometimes it seems, things drop the more the less you need them. I got my BHE yesterday and received 3 complete sets of primordials as well - Toons that can wear them are running out, as I already had 4 sets before that event started.
SyTreXx
12-06-2019, 04:52 PM
Sounds kind of unlucky. I've gotten 19 or so from 1,388 runs. They do tend to drop in bunches from what I noticed.

lol looks like you got ours too..

I got 2 from 700 runs, helped me complete a set so i’m happy.
infinite dreamer
12-06-2019, 05:54 PM
lol looks like you got ours too..

I got 2 from 700 runs, helped me complete a set so i’m happy.

Doh, if only we could trade or give away stuff. I already had a few complete sets from way back, so I could've helped you out.
teys285
12-06-2019, 07:41 PM
Damn, guess I'm unlucky... Well, now that I know that the event is not bugged, I'll actually focus again on the dungeon, try more Madness and Insanity and hope to get a full set...
HK-47
12-06-2019, 11:59 PM
Here's the thread introducing them:

https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10290-Ancient-Power-Sacrifice-Event-Sacrifice-Characters-for-EXCLUSIVE-Talismans!&highlight=primordial

Thanks, so from what I can tell they just included more effects in the pool. Funny, I was just thinking Primordials could use a buff to the pool of effects
Bakura
12-10-2019, 03:29 AM
Thanks, so from what I can tell they just included more effects in the pool. Funny, I was just thinking Primordials could use a buff to the pool of effects

Good original question.
I was wondering the same thing, since I started about the time they were nerfed.
I think now they just give Critical strike, Perf. Immunity, Ascension, or Perf. Immortality.

Here's a pic from that thread by Stormseye, and a comment by Yup.
For anyone else wondering, these 2 screenshots explain it all.

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I only use Primordials in lower gauntlet levels.
They should update them to be 5 tali set.... that would make them useful again.
Yup
12-10-2019, 03:46 AM
Originally they granted the entire team at least 3 yellow buffs for 2 turns at the start and inflicted at least 2 negative buffs for 2 turns at the start on enemies..... then each turn, they'd repeat more yellow buffs for 2 turns, more silver negative buffs for 2 turns... (but the first set of buffs still had 1 turn left).... so essentially, unless you removed them a team could easily have each and every yellow buff available on the entire team for the entire battle and the enemy could have each available silver debuff on them the entire battle... then.. they nerfed them. Which was good.

Just my opinion, but I think they function well as they currently are.... they won't sway a battle in themselves like they originally did, but they do offer a boost/debuff which can help.
Muzzleloader
12-10-2019, 04:04 AM
I was told some players were actually using the sandworms, since the primordials were so powerful.
infinite dreamer
12-10-2019, 02:24 PM
I was told some players were actually using the sandworms, since the primordials were so powerful.

While I didn't level up a sandworm, I remember leveling up just about anyone with 3 yellow talisman slots to use them. I'm pretty sure they stacked initially when using multiple sets.
razgriz
12-16-2019, 04:17 AM
Has anyone got any Primordial drops? I was very excited when I saw that they were rewards, because I don't have any, but I didn't have any drops whatsoever. I'm half way throgh the 400 runs and no sign of talis... I'm only able to auto duel the Hard, but even when I manually do the Madness, i don't get the damn talisman... Are they really that rare, or I'm very, very unlucky?

I got a set earlier this year and with the recent event dungeon that had them as drops i got another 13 of them, its been the same with some of the others when they put them in event dungeons: valor, eternal, and eclipse i got 2 full sets of each just from this years event dungeons

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