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Ceeg_LOTB
12-05-2019, 11:27 PM
Welcome Troopers, to this weeks Updates from the News Frontier!

Might not be our final name for the weekly update, but it’s a great pun courtesy of Durandal.

Asgard has come to the Arena!

Some exciting news to start us off regarding our next Arena run (December 7th 4pm PST/ 12am UTC to December 14th 4pm PST/ 12am UTC). By reaching the top of the Arena leaderboard, you can net yourself some electric new rewards. Those who climb their way to achieve Bronze and Silver status will receive special fragments towards summoning the all-new Thor Eddie. If you somehow manage to take the top spot, achieving Gold status, you’ll receive the thunder-wielding, hammer-slinging hero right away! This Eddie will be properly introduced to everyone next week with the Asgardian Assault event. He is going to be a long term chase goal for most players, so this upcoming Arena run is a big deal! The top 3 players will receive their rewards AFTER the end of the Arena run. Without further ado, here he is!

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Awakening Opportunity

Help us awaken your mythical allies! In the not-too-distant future, we may have an opportunity to give a fresh new coat of paint to an old favorite, but we need your help. Please vote for the classic ally YOU want to see Awakened. You might just see them in a whole new light in the months ahead.


Alliance General
Corrupt General
The Nomad
The Witch Doctor
The Prisoner
Icarus
Daedalus
Baroness Redan
Musashi


To vote on these, please follow this link - https://www.strawpoll.me/19043810

Sorry. No Sandworms [this time].

Community Spotlight

Nothing warms Eddie’s heart like the Community creating Art, Guides and Team suggestions for each other. So this week I would like to send a shout out to Azagthor, who has created an excellent Guide for the Brave New World. It includes drops, which levels to get them on and more. Truely a labour of love and worth the read.

Azagthor’s Guide to A Brave New World (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12776-BRAVE-NEW-WORLD-Quick-Reference-Guide)

I am keeping this weeks main section short, as we have a great read ahead of us in the Weekend Warrior with Durandal and special guest.

Weekend Warrior

Therapeutic Thursday, Troopers! ‘Tis I, your tastefully tantalizing thespian, Durandal - here for a very special installment of “Weekend Warrior”. Earlier this week, I came across a very interesting post in the forum written by our previous week’s Arena winner, Discordian. He exclaimed his enthusiasm towards the necessity of thinking outside the box when it comes to PVP strategies - how making carbon copies of “the best”, most “OP” teams might not always net the best results. With my curiosity piqued, I decided to reach out to him so I could learn more about this valiant warrior and the clan he represents. What answers have I uncovered? Let’s dive right in to find out!

What sort of qualities are important to you when building a defense team?

All credit to Romero's Legion, of course - I wouldn't be as motivated to do what I do if it wasn't for the constant banter with those lovable dorks on our server.

So building a defense team requires a different frame of mind than building a solid offense - a team that wins almost 100% of its battles on the offensive can be easily put down on defense. There are a few key reasons for this and delving deeper into these reasons can help elucidate a framework for figuring out which defensive configuration is right for you.

Firstly, you must consider that strategies which require a precise turn order are bound to fail with the AI (the I part there is dubious) running the show. For example, the team with which I won the very first gold medal for Romero's Legion after clans were introduced was amazing on offense - and would have been destroyed on defense. The idea was that two Magus Lords of Light, max-awakened, with echo cosmics, inspiration, and strike talismans would have everybody Dark Ghosted or Doomed by the end of the second turn - or first turn, if the enemy went first. At this point, one of the LoLs would use his power ability to make the other team simply disintegrate.

However, in the event that this was unsuccessful, it would be necessary for the Cosmic LoL holding Singularities to go LAST - with the power ability which stripped the enemy's positive buffs and my own negatives. Were this not the case, I myself might be doomed!

And secondly, if a rival team contained Charlotte - well, I'd just have to adapt, right? No Doom or Dark Ghost then! So the primary team I ran had some failings.

So when considering defense, it's necessary to consider the strongest team you can put together that works, regardless of turn order, against the widest range of teams. The best way to test your defense team is to set it as an attack team, and attack the next 20 people on your list - then assume that you'll fare worse, being that players tapping get many more perfect hits per battle than the AI. So if you're doing better than 50% on auto, you're on the right track! And finally - don't borrow talismans from your defense toons for other challenges! That's like throwing your American-rules football team onto the rugby pitch and seeing the sheer terror in their eyes when they realize that they're not wearing 50 lbs of protective gear!

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Van Helsing Eddie has quickly become a popular pick in the upper echelons of Arena thanks to his consistent and reliable utility. How do you approach characters like this who offer useful stalling for powerful casters such as Magus Lord of Light?

Yes, he's powerful. Yes, he gives you two turns of supposed invincibility, but I like a challenge. This is why I wasn't using him for last week's Arena. VHE is great at stalling for 2 turns - then he's rather rubbish, isn't he? So some things to consider when putting a team together to best VHE - either because you don't have him, or like me, you're bored and want a challenge:

1) Celestial Talismans cuts that 2 turn "lead" down to 1 turn.

2) Remember what Marky Mark almost certainly didn't say - use Mark Talismans! VHE can't take damage through the usual means, sure, but all toons are susceptible to mark damage, even while under his protection. Use toons that mark, use the talis, and get a good perfect hit in (hint: Lamia dishes both out in droves). Kaboom!

3) Undamageable doesn't mean unbuffable. If Guy Fawkes has 20 perfect bombs on the toons when VHE's "invincibility" runs out - kerblam! Likewise, if everybody on the opposing team is undamageable, but stunned, they're not much use for those two turns. After those two turns, VHE is kind of a useless lump. My trademark Assassin Trickster with Labyrinth Talismans is far more dangerous!

4) VHE gets his power from - what else? - his passive. Take away his passive, and he's a punching bag with a goofy hat. The Prisoner and Dark Lilith are obvious choices, but there are many others - from Convicts to Evolved Wicker Ox to Beast Ed. While it's true that currently Singularity Talismans block Passive Disable and Perfect Disable even on the first turn, a little birdie told me that this is soon to change - and I feel like we'll be seeing a lot less of Mean Mr. Goofy Hat Punching Bag when it does!

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I noticed that Football Eddie contributed to your success in Arena. What sort of team do you think makes the most out of his abilities?

In response to the various Footballer Eddies - I use them quite a bit. First of all - Primordials or Light & Cosmic Echo? Sign me right up! And now that Primordials are dropping like sweets from the sugar shack in the Cyborg dungeon, I'd hope everybody's gotten at least one set.

But beyond that, the Footballer Eddies in their five-flavored kits were a great surprise. Since they were basically no-effort 4* toons, I dismissed them at first. Then I tried out Mexico Ed in the Raven's Altar dungeon - wow did my speeds increase! So I started playing around with them, learning their moves, and they're quite a delight. That fury can blast entire teams that aren't ready for it! And it's great that, to gain class advantage, all you need to do is select the kit which fits the mission - and you're off. So from there - like any Striker, these Eddies need a full team behind them for support. A blocker is often key - and it doesn't have to be fancy. The 3* Sentinel Desert Guardian with Eternals (or better yet, the new Impulse set) is just the ticket! Having an AoE hitter with Echo & Inspiration in the mix is always a boon for our Strikers as well. They go first, strip the other team down to their pants - and then let loose that spiky ball!

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Tell us a little bit about Romero's Legion and perhaps future clan activities you're excited for.

So Romero's Legion is more than just a bunch of LotB fans who randomly hooked up and happened to pick a random clan. We knew each other going in, and formed with an idea of who we'd like to be. We have our ardent - if sometimes shy - leader, GC - he's a great dude, even if the persistent rumours of his addiction to naughty internet photos are true. wipp's our elder statesman, both in terms of having played forever and acquired a huge knowledge base, but in terms of actually having been in a serious metal band! Stonewall is the class clown, who repeatedly tried to attack me in the arena but was put down by my "spicy D". He's never gonna live that one down. Highace is a balanced voice of reason when the rest of us get carried away. And I'd hope I don't need to introduce Deathbat to all y'all. Plus we have so many other amazing members that I can't write out bios for all of them - but suffice it to say, we each help the others build teams, figure out how to conquer opponents, and help each other tune up for that next step in the Arena, or figure out a team for that next challenge in the Gauntlet. And I will not confirm nor deny that we have a media sharing platform as well, so that movies, Maiden shows, and so on can be shared... we're a band of brothers to the end.


That's it for this weeks update, don't forget to start slaying in the Arena On Saturday December 7th for a chance at Thor Eddie!

Signing off

^ Ceeg

Yup
12-05-2019, 11:37 PM
Odd.. Thor Ed looks nothing like Hemsworth :)

URock
12-05-2019, 11:48 PM
Hemsworth got short hair in last Avengers movies. Looks ugly.
Thor Eddie looks much better 😀

RobG-9641
12-05-2019, 11:59 PM
Ceeg & Durandal, you did really really good with this update. Tons of insight and useful information. Glad to see you’re pulling it from the community. But, out of obligatory complaining, why no awakened Sandworm?!? There was even preliminary artwork designed for it!!

Ceeg_LOTB
12-06-2019, 12:23 AM
Ceeg & Durandal, you did really really good with this update. Tons of insight and useful information. Glad to see you’re pulling it from the community. But, out of obligatory complaining, why no awakened Sandworm?!? There was even preliminary artwork designed for it!!

Do you mean this artwork?

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Ydex
12-06-2019, 12:36 AM
Very cool, boosting Azagthor here. Can you drop them a bonus in-game?

Discordian
12-06-2019, 12:44 AM
Very cool, boosting Azagthor here. Can you drop them a bonus in-game?

I second this. Azagthor went above and beyond with this one - wish I'd had it when I first tackled the BNW X levels! Drop a Moonchild soul into his BoS - or something else to thank him for his general awesomeness!

Amarthir
12-06-2019, 01:46 AM
I've been waiting my whole in-game life for Thor Eddie lmao.

hugoW
12-06-2019, 02:11 AM
Proud of my fellow clan mate Azagthor! Shout out to Frogs of War, and the Romero's Legion for the immeasurable experience in the game and tips, Candidates to the top Clans in the upcoming event

kkkreg5
12-06-2019, 03:17 AM
So now Gauntlet is creeping into Arena...

Strongly disliked this aspect of the game when introduced with Arena then Gauntlet now back to Arena. Instead of introducing new content, we just get the same with a different "coat of paint" and passed for "new". This is truly disappointing.

Muzzleloader
12-06-2019, 03:38 AM
Its thier way of trying to make players play all aspects of the game.

GrimDusk
12-06-2019, 05:06 AM
Damn, so Eternity Eddie has been dethroned as the Arena Reward Eddie and has been replaced by this new Thor Eddie! Looks like he could be interesting. Also, I guess singularities are being nerfed in favor of Necropolis' new passive?

Azagthor
12-06-2019, 08:45 AM
Proud of my fellow clan mate Azagthor! Shout out to Frogs of War, and the Romero's Legion for the immeasurable experience in the game and tips, Candidates to the top Clans in the upcoming event

What a lovely surprise to wake up to! Thanks for the kind words everyone, I hope you find that guide useful. I published it a bit early, wanted to get the basics out quickly to help people with the BNW current. I'll be adding more things to it, so feel free to add you own favourite tips, tricks, and character/talisman combinations into the comments there. The more information the better :)

Loved the interview with Disco too, very informative! Can't wait to see what teams he puts together with the awakened sandworms :D

Saints_sin
12-06-2019, 08:55 AM
Its a great guide and thor eddie i wonder will we see odin and loki join him

Beddie
12-06-2019, 09:07 AM
Saturday December 4th?

URock
12-06-2019, 10:37 AM
Eddie's got a new Hammer

"He is going to be a long term chase goal for most players"
Translation: every week only the Top 3 players will get him or the needed fragments. More and more players will be unbeatable in Top rankings, so less and less people will play PVP.

What about giving EVERYBODY the chance to destroy these boring Top Teams with all the same lineup?
We need new counters for: Labyrinth-Toons, Dark-Lilith-Lucifer-Werwolf-Van Helsing Teams.
In the top rankings same and same teams are used: boring!
More balancing pls!!!
What about limitations on PVP (class or level limit) changing every week?

PS: what about an attack/skill ignoring ALL shields and immunities to break through the walls? Thor-Eddie could be the one...

Iced_Earth
12-06-2019, 11:35 AM
Devs, please make Thor-Eddie possible for every Player...

dragonmat89
12-06-2019, 12:54 PM
As someone with thousands of SoW to burn having not played Arena much for months (it's surprising how quickly they build up as event/sac rewards) I'd be happy to have something else to work towards in the Arena. The new "Spend SoW to buy Talisman Soul fragments" feature was also appreciated for the same reason :P

dragonmat89
12-06-2019, 12:57 PM
Eddie's got a new Hammer

"He is going to be a long term chase goal for most players"
Translation: every week only the Top 3 players will get him or the needed fragments. More and more players will be unbeatable in Top rankings, so less and less people will play PVP.

Interesting, I read this as being the top three get him/fragments this week as an initial leg up to a future way or everyone earning small amounts of fragments (e.g. between 5 and 50 per week depending on Arena rank, working towards a 1000 fragment total or similar). Maybe I'm being optimistic but having something that is ONLY available to the top three seems a bit extreme even by the current standards.

Beddie
12-06-2019, 01:15 PM
Guess we’re gonna have to wait a week for the Asgard event

Nifelheim
12-06-2019, 02:24 PM
Viking Eddie with passive?

Volrath
12-06-2019, 02:30 PM
Whoever wins the Awakening poll, I hope it's not a Gunner or Assassin. There's been a disproportionate amount of those classes being awakened and it's pretty tough on the 3-star evolution shards.

Ceeg_LOTB
12-06-2019, 05:11 PM
Saturday December 4th?

Fixed, thanks!

Discordian
12-06-2019, 05:21 PM
Does anybody else find it highly problematic that the one toon on the list that still gets regular play is leading the votes for awakening?

Prisoner gets used despite the fact that he mainly exists for his passive - and when they fix singularities next week, he'll probably be used even more.

When was the last time any of you pulled out your Corrupt General (not counting in Gauntlet)?

I hope people will put some consideration into voting for a toon who actually needs a boost - not just voting for their favorite already-useful toon.

$0.02

Ydex
12-06-2019, 05:37 PM
Conversely, wouldn't it be nice if the Prisoner actually had some useful skills in the current meta? That he still gets used, but only for his Passive, is a problem of sorts.

But, yeah I get what you're saying.


My two cents is-- it better NOT be one of the two toons that are locked behind 3,500 frontier coins. I actually voted for the Prisoner defensively, to prevent this. What I actually thought was, Icarus would be cool.

Mateja
12-06-2019, 06:04 PM
Awakened Witch Doctor anyone? No?
Damn I love that toon. Hits like a truck and with only a couple of negs he can one shot almost anyone. His passive is also pretty good. Still use him sometimes, in or out of gauntlet and he got me through most of the higher levels of LoL and BNW when I was newer.

Beddie
12-06-2019, 06:07 PM
Yeah Witch Doctor would be cool

rags-6094
12-06-2019, 06:28 PM
I think it would be good to have an awakenable Magis Eddie, 5* of course, Magis Eddies really aren’t holding their ground these days.
The current dungeon task brought that one to light for me. It would be good to awaken King Ed or Seventh Son Ed and while we’re at it can we have a T3 cosmic to suit the said Awakenable Magis Eddie please?

That T3 cosmic for Cyborg is awesome to say the least...

stormlordrising
12-06-2019, 07:07 PM
Great guide really enjoyed it. I voted for Musashi. Need a sword swinging Awaken character. and yes I bought him bc frankly he never dropped for me and was glad I could. I also liked the chart for the new event for DEC showing the breakdown of what you can get. Please keep that up. It will definitely enfluence how I spent my snowflakes fragments.

MetalKing
12-07-2019, 10:35 AM
If we could vote based on nostalgia, I would choose carriage rider, because he was my first good Eddie when starting the game. Another character not on this list would be alchemist. Choosing from the characters on the list, my first choice is prisoner and second choice would be Redan. Prisoner needs a better power skill other than seal. It has its uses, but he is a weak single target hitter. I like the Redan character but don't see her used much anymore.

SinGularity-8786
12-07-2019, 01:46 PM
Is it possible to vote for a break from releasing more and more awakenable toons in such short intervals?

Beddie
12-07-2019, 02:03 PM
Is it possible to vote for a break from releasing more and more awakenable toons in such short intervals?
They’ll probably rig it

Ip4
12-07-2019, 03:26 PM
Viking Eddie in different clothes so no more new Eddies exist in this game,from now we will see only old Eddie in new look,thats stupid....noob tactics....

Muzzleloader
12-07-2019, 03:35 PM
The Russians and Ukrainians will not allow a fair voting process. They want to control and bankrupt us with new awakenable toons.

Zugzwang
12-07-2019, 11:06 PM
I'd vote Witch Doctor too. Give BOS toons some love.

Sohvar_nashtok
12-07-2019, 11:32 PM
I agree with rags-6094, Magus could really use some love right now...

Beddie
12-07-2019, 11:39 PM
Maybe make the Alchemist or Grim Reaper Eddie Awaken-able.
Grim Reaper needs that boost and Alchemist just makes sense

kkkreg5
12-08-2019, 12:23 AM
Wasn't this crap supposed to start today?

Beddie
12-08-2019, 12:25 AM
No you see it was suppose to start Saturday December 4th (In 2021)

Alvorada
12-08-2019, 05:48 AM
Viking Eddie in different clothes so no more new Eddies exist in this game,from now we will see only old Eddie in new look,thats stupid....noob tactics....

I agree with you. Speed of light, storm and virus eddie don't.

Discordian
12-08-2019, 08:03 AM
Wasn't this crap supposed to start today?

I'm certainly playing under the assumption that, since the exact dates of the particular arena week were spelled out in the text of the post, it's on - maybe there just wasn't an announcement for it.

Easter egg for people who've joined the forum?

kkkreg5
12-08-2019, 07:47 PM
I'm certainly playing under the assumption that, since the exact dates of the particular arena week were spelled out in the text of the post, it's on - maybe there just wasn't an announcement for it.

Easter egg for people who've joined the forum?

You never can tell with this group. It's happened in the past were announcements were made but nothing...

Ydex
12-08-2019, 08:10 PM
It was a typo which has been subsequently corrected, see below:

Some exciting news to start us off regarding our next Arena run (December 7th 4pm PST/ 12am UTC to December 14th 4pm PST/ 12am UTC).

Beddie
12-08-2019, 09:20 PM
So it should’ve started today?

Ydex
12-08-2019, 09:26 PM
Oh. yeah, idk

URock
12-08-2019, 10:41 PM
Marketing: "New event on December 7th!"
Devs: "What?"

Hartacus
12-09-2019, 12:13 AM
Another long-term goal Eddie. As someone who is still yet to unlock Virus Ed, I can't wait to never use it

kkkreg5
12-09-2019, 12:24 AM
The rubber band snapped or the hamster died again....

Saigrim
12-09-2019, 12:26 AM
The rubber band snapped or the hamster died again....

That poor little furry bastard. He’s had more lives than Benjamin Breeg.

kkkreg5
12-09-2019, 12:34 AM
Yup said they just go down to the pet shop and replace with an identical one like our parents used to do...

Saigrim
12-09-2019, 12:43 AM
It’d be nice to have my gauntlet rewards so I can claim my Moonchild. I’ve logged in multiple times, and nothing.....

Natasmai
12-09-2019, 03:01 PM
Conversely, wouldn't it be nice if the Prisoner actually had some useful skills in the current meta? That he still gets used, but only for his Passive, is a problem of sorts.

But, yeah I get what you're saying.


My two cents is-- it better NOT be one of the two toons that are locked behind 3,500 frontier coins. I actually voted for the Prisoner defensively, to prevent this. What I actually thought was, Icarus would be cool.

as far as im aware, his skills have NEVER been useful. His passive was so powerful that it was worth going into a fight "a man short" just for his passive.

PRISONER DOES NOT NEED TO BE AWAKENED, this is a HUGE mistake.

Beddie
12-09-2019, 03:02 PM
All he needs is a buff to his abilities

MuzakMaker
12-09-2019, 03:21 PM
I do fear that a max awakened Prisoner would mean PD against the entire team for the whole match. That would be too OP in my opinion and would just lead to a new OP character or Talisman set being introduced as a counter.

dragonmat89
12-09-2019, 03:47 PM
I do fear that a max awakened Prisoner would mean PD against the entire team for the whole match. That would be too OP in my opinion and would just lead to a new OP character or Talisman set being introduced as a counter.

That was Prisoner's original passive before they tweaked it...

MuzakMaker
12-09-2019, 04:40 PM
That was Prisoner's original passive before they tweaked it...

Hence my fear. We saw something similar with Raven Witch where her skill was a little to powerful so they nerfed her and put the original skill behind the Max Awakening.

Ydex
12-09-2019, 04:53 PM
Max Awakened Prisoner that can disable Talismans :p

Beddie
12-09-2019, 04:58 PM
Max Awakened Prisoner that can disable Talismans :p
Hey That’s my idea

Ydex
12-09-2019, 05:11 PM
Max Awakened Prisoner that can disable Talismans :p


Hey That’s my idea

Just stirring the pot, :D ha haha hah

Durandal_LOTB
12-09-2019, 06:49 PM
Marketing: "New event on December 7th!"
Devs: "What?"

To add some clarity, the bonus rewards for achieving top status in Arena is not an "event" in the traditional sense. It's a limited-time incentive to go absolutely gloves-off, hammer-down in Arena this week to help usher in this very cool new Eddie. Even so, Thor Eddie will be a long-term chase reward available to all players. You'll learn more about him and how to get Thor Eddie Soul Fragments later this week when his event kicks off.

Mario.Ahner
12-10-2019, 06:31 AM
yeehaw, long-term, nf knows how to bring fun to lotb.

Ydex
12-10-2019, 06:56 AM
what, not enough events for you?

Yup
12-10-2019, 07:08 AM
well.. some people have lives and cant' spend Friday night to Saturday night racking up 8K points.

To be frank... as someone that has been and can get to the top... there should be a limit to the number of attacks one can perform in 24 hours. -- But yeah.. you want them spending $$$ for refills I get it.

The Educated fool
12-15-2019, 08:06 PM
:cool:

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Zugzwang
12-15-2019, 08:25 PM
well.. some people have lives and cant' spend Friday night to Saturday night racking up 8K points.

To be frank... as someone that has been and can get to the top... there should be a limit to the number of attacks one can perform in 24 hours. -- But yeah.. you want them spending $$$ for refills I get it.

I floated a max cap idea as well but it was shot down. It was per week but per 24 hours is also a good idea.