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Leviathan
12-20-2019, 12:12 AM
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Scrooge Eddie is making his Legacy of the Beast debut!

Put a Stake of Holly through your enemies hearts! Scrooge Eddie is a 5* Magus who strikes with magic attacks and negative effects. His icy stare is sure to Freeze anyone who dares cross his path. His, passive ability, ‘Bah! Humbug’, has a 50% chance to cleanse negative effects (including silver effects) and heals self when you or any ally takes damage. It will also remove 2 random beneficial and golden effects from all enemies when you take damage.

From now until January 2nd, 4 PM PT, brace yourself against the cold and delve into our latest Dungeon - Tiny Tim’s Revenge! This snowy Dickensian Dungeon comes with its own unique storyline and 4 difficulty settings!

The first time you complete Normal, Hard or Madness, you will be granted with set rewards including Christmas Souls and Snow Talismans. Beat Insanity to earn a host of other rare set rewards including a Catalyst Soul, T3 Evo Runes and Talisman Epic Soul Fragments. All subsequent victories are guaranteed to provide Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments and Snowflake Fragments, as well as a chance of up to 2 bonus rewards, including Singularity Talismans.

Snowflake Fragments are part of our Arctic Avalanche event, and can be traded in store (see Arctic Avalanche post for full details (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12766-Arctic-Avalanche-Info-and-Discussion)).

Magus Possessed Snowman fragments can be used in two different ways!

1) Event Currency!
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Trade the Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments you earn in the dungeon for items in the Event Shop. The following items are available:


Christmas Soul x1 (320 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, UNLIMITED)
Christmas Soul Pack (3 Souls) x1 (880 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, UNLIMITED)
Christmas Soul Mega-Pack (10 Souls) x1 (2500 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, UNLIMITED)
Heroic Legendary Soul 1x (750 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, 1 per event)
Catalyst Soul x1 (500 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, 2 per event)
Skill Shard x1 (250 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, 5 per event)
Rare Soul x1 (100 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments, 10 times per event)


2) Obtain a Magus Possessed Snowman - Not Recommended until AFTER event!

Use 400 Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments to claim a Magus Possessed Snowman Soul. The Magus Possessed Snowman Soul is guaranteed to grant a 4★ Magus Possessed Snowman.

Converting Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments into their Souls and/or opening those Souls is not reversible, so please avoid converting your Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments until after this event is over.

After the event is over you can then claim a Snowman Soul in order to add to your character pool, or have fodder for your next big Sacrifice. Alternatively, you could convert these fragments into Precious Soul Fragments!

Christmas Soul Details

The Christmas Soul is a limited time event soul which guarantees a 3★ to 5★ character of any class. This soul has an increased chance of summoning all previous Christmas characters and an exclusive chance of summoning Scrooge Eddie, The Ghost of Jacob Marley and the 3 Ghosts of Christmas - Past, Present, and Future!

This Soul will drop as part of the first time victory rewards in the Tiny Tim’s Revenge Dungeon, and you can earn Christmas Soul Fragments, as well as Soul Talismans, by completing Event Challenges.

Christmas Souls can also be purchased in the store using Magus Possessed Snowman Fragments.

Each Christmas Soul summoned will also grant the following bonus rewards:

10 Scrooge Eddie Soul Fragments
10 Krampus Soul Fragments (Assassin or Gunner)
10 Christmas Ghost Soul Fragments (Sentinel or Gunner)
10 Christmas Ghost Soul Fragments (Magus or Assassin)



Collecting 1000 Scrooge Eddie Soul Fragments guarantees one 5★ Magus Scrooge Eddie!

Collecting 750 Krampus Soul Fragments will create a soul that will give you either the 5★ Assassin or Gunner Krampus!

Collecting 500 Christmas Ghost Soul Fragments (Sentinel or Gunner) will create a soul that will give you either the 5★ Sentinel Ghost of Christmas Present or Gunner Ghost of Christmas Past!

350 Christmas Ghost Soul Fragments (Magus or Assassin) will create a soul that will give you either the 4★ Magus Ghost of Jacob Marley or Assassin Ghost of Christmas Future!

Check the Compendium in the Book of Souls for full character details!


Finally, we have a few deals available in the store to help:

We have an Any Class Power Up Pack, as well as a Magus Power Up Pack that will provide Ironite, a bit of gold, 5★ XP Shards to power up a new Scrooge Eddie!
Grab an additional boost of Magus Possessed Snowman Soul Fragments to trade for more items in the Event Store. This Fragment Mega Pack also contains Talisman Soul Fragments, Frontier Coins, Ironite and more!
Get a full set of Snow and/or Soul Talismans with some bonus Ironite, Gold and Sands of War, as a one-time only offer!
We have 3 Talisman Finisher packs on offer! Having trouble completing your Snow, Soul or Singularity Talisman sets? Head to the store and grab the corresponding finisher pack!
Lightbringer Relics are back to help bolster your characters for the event dungeon! Head to the Event Store to purchase these limited-time Relics and gain increases on your Attack, Defense and HP stats in the Lord of Light and Tiny Tim’s Revenge Dungeons.

GrimDusk
12-20-2019, 12:17 AM
Well, dungeon events are always nice to farm but I have a feeling that none of these new characters are anything crazy. Once again, Christmas characters are jokes.

Alvorada
12-20-2019, 12:25 AM
Well, dungeon events are always nice to farm but I have a feeling that none of these new characters are anything crazy. Once again, Christmas characters are jokes.

I hope so, because I'm about to go out on vacatiom hahahah

Yup
12-20-2019, 12:36 AM
Can not complete TT Revenge Madness.. not even once.. app crashes every time at Coalgiver battle. -- using Magus only .. Bass, Ev Wicker Owl, Alchemist, Madam.

Hartacus
12-20-2019, 12:57 AM
First soul drop Future Ghost. And with that, my luck has run out

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 01:25 AM
Are those Lightbringer relics just one level, or two?

BennySalazar
12-20-2019, 01:35 AM
First soul drop Future Ghost. And with that, my luck has run out



Same here! I had Gunner Krampus and thats it ... Grinding and saving for the rest

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 01:47 AM
Are those Lightbringer relics just one level, or two?

Yep, it's 2. Couldn't tell from the initial description.

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 02:12 AM
Can't seem to get a magus team very far on Madness. Anyone have a team suggestion or is everyone experiencing the crash issue reported by some?

MuzakMaker
12-20-2019, 03:20 AM
Anybody else experiencing disconnects consistently? I'm hitting them about every 3 or so runs.

Yup
12-20-2019, 03:31 AM
I seriously can not make it through madness or Insanity without a crash....

Over 20 attempts and I've managed 1 time through Madness (and it crashed at the Victory chest) and 2 times through Insanity.

Is this a "Crashmess" event??

Is there an achievement for losing the most SOT via crashes???

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 03:36 AM
I got through Madness fine and am running insanity now, but had to exit just now as it kinda hung up in a loop.
Been using Van Helsing or BHE.
W LOL and A WW, and then G Desert Guardian since I have yet to pull Prisoner for passive disabling. Can probably find much quicker team but will run as is for now.
Probably 50 insanity runs and about 3 minutes each.

Yup
12-20-2019, 03:42 AM
I'm running madness with Magus only and Insanity with Sentinel only.

Muzzleloader
12-20-2019, 04:03 AM
Anyone have any auto team on madness without dark clair?

I can manual with. Pope, soccer, alchemist, ferryman, but its slow.

infinite dreamer
12-20-2019, 04:16 AM
Anyone have any auto team on madness without dark clair?

I can manual with. Pope, soccer, alchemist, ferryman, but its slow.

On auto, I'm using M LOL (celestial, cosmic), Mystic Ed (inspiration, sustaining, cosmic immunity, random) , Alchemist (yin, yang) & Derby Demon (orbit). No losses yet, about between 3 and 4 minutes.

Yup
12-20-2019, 04:23 AM
If it doesn't crash.... (just unistlled/reinstalled so we'll see..)


Bass Ed (Revenge/Warp/Cosmic)
M Onyx Son (Celestial/Cosmic)
Madam (Alchemy/Cosic)
M LOL (Singularity) or Evolved Wicker Owl (Singularity) or Alchemist (Angel/Warlord/Cosmic - 3 purple stars) or Ferryman (Hex/Tranquility/Cosmic)


That works.. no problems surviving.. I simply can't get through without a crash. 30+ attempts and only made it TWICE without a crash... that amounts to 300+ SOT vaporized

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Edit.. nope reinstall did nothing.. 3 tries... 3 crashes. Ridiculous.

Note I auto-ran Normal and Hard without constant crashing.. but Madness and Insanity are EXCEPTIONALLY unstable.

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 04:29 AM
M Onyx Son - funny, in the past 2 weeks I've run 4000 Madness LOL and gotten 40 or so Onyx Sons. Not one single M, and also zero 5* Magus awakening shards. The game hates me.

Alvorada
12-20-2019, 04:30 AM
Magus team for madness:

Shadow of Wickerman (celestial)
maxed LoL (singularite)
Ferryman (hex and mark)
Alchemist (forje)

work on auto with no casualties, but I did just a few tries so far.

BennySalazar
12-20-2019, 04:30 AM
Can't seem to get a magus team very far on Madness. Anyone have a team suggestion or is everyone experiencing the crash issue reported by some?

No crash issues here. After many trials that all resulted in errors on autoplay. I finaly found a team on MANUAL with only magic characters. Since two of them ar not sharded it took ages to pass the level. (running time 8 - 9 mnts)

M Football Eddie Argetina (chance + future)
M Werewolf (tower + health)
Inugami, M Dog Spirit (banner + health) to block damage and stay alive
M Shardborne (singularity)

It's struggle every round until you can use the fury that grants ascension ...

Time consuming but it works

Probably there are easier ways if you have more top tier magic toons but due restrictions this seems the only way for me so far

Yup
12-20-2019, 04:32 AM
M Onyx Son - funny, in the past 2 weeks I've run 4000 Madness LOL and gotten 40 or so Onyx Sons. Not one single M, and also zero 5* Magus awakening shards. The game hates me.

Nah.. only hates iOS users. Apparently iOS users aren't supposed to be able to run Madness or Insanity levels during events :)

BennySalazar
12-20-2019, 04:38 AM
M Onyx Son - funny, in the past 2 weeks I've run 4000 Madness LOL and gotten 40 or so Onyx Sons. Not one single M, and also zero 5* Magus awakening shards. The game hates me.

Did I understand it wrong or can you still can earn Onyx sons in the game???? If yes? Where please?

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 04:40 AM
YUP, you listed Revenge on Base Eddie but I don't see that anywhere. Avenger is it maybe?

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 04:42 AM
Did I understand it wrong or can you still can earn Onyx sons in the game???? If yes? Where please?

LOL XV has onyx and shardborn frags. XIV has just shardborn, not sure if lower have those though.

Muzzleloader
12-20-2019, 04:42 AM
Benny', you can earn shardborne and onyx frags in the LoL keyed dungeons.

BennySalazar
12-20-2019, 05:10 AM
Thanx muzzeloader and death dealer for the reply.

My team is not strong enough for LOL XV. I usualy play on 11 - 12. Before I beat 13 & 14 once but I can't do them on autoplay yet. I hope when I saved enough frontier coins to get alexander eddie that will change.

Ezz
12-20-2019, 05:11 AM
Good luck on the sentinel insanity challenge. I’ve tried about 10 different teams/tali combos and maybe got past the first wave twice? And I have not even come close to winning let alone with all toons alive. Sentinel tali color limitations are a problem here.

Oh and I’m not talking auto here either - 100% manual and they are still wiping the floor with my ass.

Azagthor
12-20-2019, 05:15 AM
If you want to see what talismans the enemies are wearing, check out THIS THREAD OVER HERE (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12873-TINY-TIM-S-REVENGE-Enemy-Talisman-Quick-Reference-for-Insanity-and-Madness).

Really like the location, the ice skaters are wonderful! Lovely bit of writing too, had a good chuckle reading through the dialogue.

Feels quite difficult, lots of ghosts with permadeath immunity, and so many silver effects being thrown around. Going to be quite tricky without characters like Dark Lilith and Charlotte.

Haven't crashed, but have been stuck on the loading screen whenever I try taking an assassin team into Normal. Both on my phone and emulator.

Yup
12-20-2019, 06:00 AM
YUP, you listed Revenge on Base Eddie but I don't see that anywhere. Avenger is it maybe?

Sorry yes.. Avenger.. grants the revenge buff.

Sentinel Insanity....

Pharaoh Ed (brave)
Evolved Wicker Ox (can't remember)
Killer Prime (Warlord/Tranquility/Sustaining)
S Ghost of Xmas (Alchemy/Cosmic) -- But any Alchemy wearing Sentinel should work.. S Onyx Son comes to mind.

This wins with no issue IF I can complete the run.. but out of 550SOT.. I managed only 4 runs without a crash.. Iv'e given up. They CLEARLy need to address something for iOS.

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 06:19 AM
Yup, you have maxed or near maxed relics?

Yup
12-20-2019, 06:20 AM
My relics are complete. Character all maxed. I don't buy the lightbringer relic stuff.


Man the crashing is so frustrating... I cross my fingers every time there's a cinematic.. because it might crash the app. I really wish they'd test things.

Heavy1974
12-20-2019, 06:39 AM
Opened the first 6 souls from clearing the first 3 floors-BOOOMM Ebenezer Ed.
Biggest luck in Event souls ever

Esquatcho
12-20-2019, 07:03 AM
Don’t have the yup team chars and seriously cant makeA dent in insanity! Really just need something to stop the silver buffs in the first round. I’m hoping the devs had a specific team in mind such that it’s just a case of us finding the obscure char to make it work...

Edit: if it helps others
Magus madness really just needs soccer ed and celestials on someone
For insanity ive had luck with the standard team of
Alex and charlotte (orbits/vipers)
Kp (warlord/greeds or the sustaining immu combo)
Ass werewolf (starfire)

GrimDusk
12-20-2019, 07:06 AM
Also any reason this new Eddie doesn't have a character discussion page?

Yup
12-20-2019, 07:50 AM
Also any reason this new Eddie doesn't have a character discussion page?

I think they are releasing characters so fast, they don't even bother any longer. They are at least 15 behind.. the xmas stuff.. new eternals... BHE....

Hartacus
12-20-2019, 09:05 AM
Magus team
Bass Ed - Celestial/Cosmic
M. LoL - Singularity
Alchemist - Forge/Cosmic
Madam - Alchemy/Cosmic
Average time 3 mins, still yet to lose

MetalKing
12-20-2019, 10:57 AM
For those with crashing issues; I had a similar issue a while back with a couple of games. I found that closing all unneeded apps that were running simultaneously/running in the background helped, as well as cleaning cache. Finally, I uninstalled a couple of apps that I don't run often to free up memory space and storage on my device.

scott-5496
12-20-2019, 11:11 AM
Only just starting out on this one. The first two levels are fine to do on auto for me. Magus level is OK too, using:

Bass Eddie (Alchemy/Cosmic)
Ferryman (Hex/Dragon)
Wicker Evolved Owl (Singularity)
Dark Clair (cant remember)

All good so far but Bass Eddie did come close to death a couple of times. So should be fine to 15 completed.

Insanity not tried a Sentinel team yet on auto.

I like the look of it - really quite cool and story was pretty decent too. All in all a decent looking dungeon so well done to the team for that.

I see others have put up Sentinel teams so it looks do able. Not sure I can be bothered with the massive grind on this one as I always have next to no luck on xmas characters first time round - every year it is the same for me so not too bothered if I miss out on a few of them...or al of them as I expect!

Ip4
12-20-2019, 11:17 AM
Why only 15 frag on insanity?

Azagthor
12-20-2019, 11:28 AM
Why only 15 frag on insanity?

Guessing because of the two week time frame?


Anyone else had any trouble with endless loading screens trying to take an assassin team into Normal?

Yup
12-20-2019, 12:07 PM
15 or 23... same as most dungeons.

No problems with loading here.. just consistent crashing... took me nearly 5 hours to do 15 insanity runs (manually) with Sentinels - and cost me at least 800SOT for those 15 runs.

But with BHE/W LOL/Dark Lilith/Moonchild.. the crashing seems to have subsided. (fingers crossed)

Natasmai
12-20-2019, 12:23 PM
yup, dumb question.... but have you tried turning down the graphic settings to minimum levels? sound off, etc...? I would try to minimize the resources the phone needs to run the app. I have android, but I have the graphics turned down to minimum and all the sounds off. My game damn near always runs smooth, even when others are complaining about crashes and connection issues. I ran insanity all night auto, no problems. Got about 300 runs in over my 5 hour sleep.

I really wish I could help figure out your crashing issues, it's so bizarre.

Roberval
12-20-2019, 12:25 PM
Hi ! what ur team? and tails? thanks

Iced_Earth
12-20-2019, 01:53 PM
which teams youre using for safe insanity farm?

Volrath
12-20-2019, 01:53 PM
Wow, Insanity on this dungeon is well...insane. I'm getting my ass handed to me. I can get through madness with all mages but not on auto.

I doubt I'll get the frags for Scrooge Eddie unless I tell my family on Christmas that I'm too busy grinding in a mobile game to do anything. I actually managed to pull the Ghost of Christmas Present, who seems quite good. Generally, if I get one featured character during these things I feel content.

SinGularity-8786
12-20-2019, 01:54 PM
What's the source of the Perfect stun on 4th wave?
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Ezz
12-20-2019, 02:34 PM
What’s making insanity so tough is the first wave with 5 ghosts. Between the long passives and talis things are so convoluted it’s almost impossible to figure who is doing what effect and why to be able to counter it.

That said I do have a sentinel team that can win manually - but maybe 40% of the time at best. I tried Yups team (subbing onyx son for the ghost which I don’t have) and it was calamity - never came close to passing wave 1.

Inishmore
12-20-2019, 02:37 PM
which teams youre using for safe insanity farm?

So far I ran Insane roughly 70 times on Insane and I had one defeat with the following team. Don't know why or how I lost, so it is probably not a 100% team. But it seems pretty reliable.

Alex Eddie: Orbits
A Werewolf: Ying and Yang
KP: Frontier and Cosmic
Charlotte: Viper

my time is around 2 min

MuzakMaker
12-20-2019, 02:55 PM
I've got no background apps open and all settings are set to low. The disconnects are only when it tries to finalize my win. Losses and the one draw do not have disconnects.

Beddie
12-20-2019, 03:28 PM
What's the source of the Perfect stun on 4th wave?
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Both Warrior Ghosts have Fallen Talismans Which inflict perfect stun upon death

(But for whatever reason I still get afflicted with perfect stun after one round)

Ezz
12-20-2019, 03:32 PM
Both Warrior Ghosts have Fallen Talismans Which inflict perfect stun upon death

(But for whatever reason I still get afflicted with perfect stun after one round)

This is my point - there is so much going on with passives and talis that it’s too hard to track cause and effect. I like a challenge that requires thought and strategy but this is to the point I’d have to build a spreadsheet and start analyzing to be effective. I get paid for that crap - I’m not about to start doing it for fun during my free time.

Ydex
12-20-2019, 03:41 PM
This is my point - there is so much going on with passives and talis that it’s too hard to track cause and effect. I like a challenge that requires thought and strategy but this is to the point I’d have to build a spreadsheet and start analyzing to be effective. I get paid for that crap - I’m not about to start doing it for fun during my free time.


I definitely build spreadsheets for fun in my free time. BUT in this case, there are so many bugs in the interactions between skills and effects and talismans and passives, that I don't believe a spreadsheet would explain what's happening.

nitro
12-20-2019, 04:06 PM
I'm auto farm on Sentinel Insanity....

Pharaoh Ed (Impulse) -3 on 50, 3 on 40
The Witch doctor (Forge + Chance cosmic)
Killer Prime (Warlord/Greed)
S LOL (Redemption + Sus+ Echo cosmic)
Average 3~ 3:10 min. It is slow but it works so far.

annouvis25
12-20-2019, 04:47 PM
i'm auto farm on sentinel insanity....

Pharaoh ed (impulse) -3 on 50, 3 on 40
the witch doctor (forge + chance cosmic)
killer prime (warlord/greed)
s lol (redemption + sus+ echo cosmic)
average 3~ 3:10 min. It is slow but it works so far.

if u dont have slol something else?

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 05:25 PM
if u dont have slol something else?

Sup had a team suggestion similar to this one. Try S Onyx Son, or any green guy that can carry alchemy I think. He also listed Wicker Ox if you have him to try in the mix.

URock
12-20-2019, 05:45 PM
Question on Ghost Of Christmas Past (Gunner):

CANDELABRA (Present Basic Attack) "Deal Additional Physical Damage to all enemies if Thorn Shield is active on self"

How to activate Thorn Shield? He can't activate it himself and it's only possible with Thorn Talisman and then only with a chance of perfect hit.


source: http://www.news.maiden-lotb.com/n3/character-en/ghost-of-christmas-past-gunner/

DeathDealer-5301
12-20-2019, 05:57 PM
Question on Ghost Of Christmas Past (Gunner):

CANDELABRA (Present Basic Attack) "Deal Additional Physical Damage to all enemies if Thorn Shield is active on self"

How to activate Thorn Shield? He can't activate it himself and it's only possible with Thorn Talisman and then only with a chance of perfect hit.


source: http://www.news.maiden-lotb.com/n3/character-en/ghost-of-christmas-past-gunner/

Eddies with Thorn Shield - Alex, Iron Maiden, Vampire Hunter, Van Helsing.
Plus W Werewolf, Blue Souless Demon.

Link to the awesome guide by Deathbat is http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10506-I-ve-created-a-handy-guide-to-LOTB-Characters-and-their-Effects

Didn't check all of them, but I know Van Helsing casts it on allies. Also didn't check new characters for it if they aren't in the spreadsheet yet.

Ip4
12-20-2019, 07:16 PM
game crash like crazy on ios,that's becouse devs only use android devices for testing...if they test anything...

Yup
12-20-2019, 07:54 PM
(But for whatever reason I still get afflicted with perfect stun after one round)

Yeah and often when they are at 50% HP.. not dead. And it's not jsut that round.. any round with Fallen talismans seems to inflict perfect stun at some random HP level.

Fudjo
12-20-2019, 09:11 PM
Insanity autorun team:

Max Cyborg: Valhalla, Cyborg T3
Lilith Nightmoon: Inspiration, Serenity, Echo Cosmic
New Wrath: Starfire
AssWolf: Forge, Echo Cosmic

300+ runs, no losses. Average time is around 54 seconds. Fastest time was 39 seconds.

Bakura
12-20-2019, 09:22 PM
Yeah and often when they are at 50% HP.. not dead. And it's not jsut that round.. any round with Fallen talismans seems to inflict perfect stun at some random HP level.

S. Shardborne grants immunity to all stun effects for the whole team.


This mixed team works for Insanity (Auto):
Best time 1:51 / Avg. 2:45

Gambler Ed- Forge/Cosmic
A. Werewolf- Yin/Yang
Alchemist(Awakened lvl 7)- Blight/Hex/Cosmic
Charlotte-Orbit

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That first wave of ghosts is not a problem for this team.
Charlotte keeps them from getting silver negs(stun) too early, and Alchemist w/ Blight talis constantly cleanses and turns gold buffs into negs on enemies, while A. WW pummels the mess out of the enemies. Gambler hits hard and if anyone gets low on health, his Forge talis grant perf. health.

These toons are pretty common nowadays. I saw a much better team in another post, but not everyone has maxed D. Lilith or the new Eternity toons.

Awakened Alchemist now has 85% chance to turn enemies gold buffs to a silver neg, as opposed to his original 50%.
This really takes care of ghosted enemies quick (especially using Blight talis.)

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Old vs. New
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*That new Awakened Alchemist pic makes him look a little bit like Shakespeare! hahaha
"To Awaken or not to Awaken..... that is the question."
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Good Luck!
Merry Christmas 🎅⛄❄🎄🎁🥂

Ydex
12-20-2019, 10:05 PM
Well.. Alchemist/Blight. Good tip.
I have him at Full and hoped I'd use him in this Event.

Beddie
12-20-2019, 10:14 PM
Has anyone gotten a singularly drop yet?

Bakura
12-20-2019, 10:49 PM
Well.. Alchemist/Blight. Good tip.
I have him at Full and hoped I'd use him in this Event.
He's working great and hits harder than ever.
I think this dungeon is bugged, cuz the Blight wil still allow him to use his fury once in awhile, but never his special.... so better than w/ out Blights, cuz then he does his fury every turn and never cleanses.

I read someone else saying they had similar issues w/ Blights in this dungeon.

Yup
12-20-2019, 11:02 PM
Has anyone gotten a singularly drop yet?

Yes.

116 runs = 2 Singularities

15/Normal - 15/Hard - 5/Madness (because it crashes and needs babysitting) - the rest Insanity (still crashes constantly, but not as often with a mixed class team)

edsel
12-21-2019, 01:06 AM
S. Shardborne grants immunity to all stun effects for the whole team.


This mixed team works for Insanity (Auto):
Best time 2:29 / Avg. 2:45

Gambler Ed- Forge/Cosmic
A. Werewolf- Yin/Yang
Alchemist(Awakened lvl 7)- Blight/Hex/Cosmic
Charlotte-Orbit

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That first wave of ghosts is not a problem for this team.
Charlotte keeps them from getting silver negs(stun) too early, and Alchemist w/ Blight talis constantly cleanses and turns buffs into negs on enemies, while A. WW pummels the mess out of the enemies. Gambler hits hard and if anyone gets low on health, his Forge talis grant perf. health.

These toons are pretty common nowadays. I saw a much better team in another post, but not everyone has maxed D. Lilith or the new Eternity toons.

Awakened Alchemist now has 85% chance to turn enemies gold buffs to a silver neg, as opposed to his original 50%.
This really takes care of ghosted enemies quick (especially using Blight talis.)

7302
Old vs. New
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*That new Awakened Alchemist pic makes him look more like Shakespeare! hahaha
"To Awaken or not to Awaken..... that is the question."
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Good Luck!
Merry Christmas 🎅⛄❄🎄🎁🥂

LOL AS USUAL. excellent work Count Bakura

pepe-8610
12-21-2019, 01:23 AM
Over 400 runs and not a single singularity drop... Was hoping to get a second set but I guess that's not happening

DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 02:10 AM
I have maybe 300 runs and just a half hour ago I had a singularity drop. Checked inventory and that's the only stray one I have, so if you need a full set, be prepared for a lot of runs. Think you can pick up a few in the store if needed to finish a set. I'll have to check subtypes, not sure if I have a set of this one yet.

DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 02:52 AM
Last event with the snowmen and reindeer they listed exact drop chances. So with this event we don't have that, but does anyone know what it means when they say increased chance of pulling a toon? Can't find drop numbers on that.

Bakura
12-21-2019, 02:55 AM
LOL AS USUAL. excellent work Count Bakura

Thnx...... Merry Christmas Trooper .....
and thanks for the badges!

Here's to another year... 👍🍻

Azagthor
12-21-2019, 03:35 AM
Last event with the snowmen and reindeer they listed exact drop chances. So with this event we don't have that, but does anyone know what it means when they say increased chance of pulling a toon? Can't find drop numbers on that.

In the Book of Souls, clicking the (!) icon near the top right will show you the percentage drops from the Christmas Soul. You have to do a little bit of extra maths to work it out for each specific character, but there is a higher than normal chance of getting a 5* compared with regular Rare souls. Better chances than regular event souls too, but arguably harder to get.

Hmm, the 4* characters might be slightly harder to obtain than the 5*. If I'm doing my numbers right, 12.20% for a 4*, with then a 37.75% chance for the event characters. So 4.6055%. There are 9 of those, so... 0.5117% for a specific 4* character.

4.20% for a 5*, with a high 78.73% of an event character. 3.30666%. Only 5 of those, bringing us to 0.661% for a specific 5*. Hah, I'm more likely to get Scrooge than Coalgiver :p

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Or do you mean something more like what they posted in the Arctic Avalanche thread for the Snowflake Soul? I found this rather interesting, and hope they'll post similar charts again in the future. Helps us make more informed decisions, and gives an insight into how they design their various loot boxes.

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DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 03:45 AM
Thanks Azagthor, that's what I was looking for, just didn't notice it was in the book of souls there.

infinite dreamer
12-21-2019, 04:39 AM
Has anyone gotten a singularly drop yet?

1 singularity in 223 runs. Mostly insanity aside from the challenges. Just a dupe coalgiver Ed as far as X-mas character pulls so far.

Ip4
12-21-2019, 06:10 AM
30 event souls and still no event character....this game is pure evil...

Yup
12-21-2019, 07:54 AM
this game is pure evil...


Yes it is. Apparently I'm not allowed to get the Gunner Ghost.... I have had event characters drop, but let's just say they aren't really diverse... 1 Jacob Marley Ghost... 1 A Krampus... and the rest.. Alllllllllllllllllllllllll Sentinels..... and the Sentinel/Gunner frags.. well.. guess what dropped....

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And I still can't complete the Magus-Only Madness achievement because the app crashes.. it's basically a black hole for SOT never actually completing a run but always taking the SOT for it.

Hartacus
12-21-2019, 08:00 AM
Mixed Insanity auto team
Van Helsing Ed - Quantum
Musashi - Orbit
A. WW - Forge/Cosmic (Echo)
M. LoL - Alchemy/Cosmic

Musashi passive makes him immune to silver effects, Quantums do the same for VHE
The Dark Ghost from LoL coupled with perfect death from Forge talis makes short work of everything else.
And whatever isnt ghosted, A. WW hits like a truck anyway
^^^^
Just been stuck in an extra turn loop with A. WW on wave 1 (immune to perma/perfect death) with one of them dark ghosted. The +15% attack/magic from Forge. Was hitting for over 300,000. Anyone seen higher than that?

seneuk
12-21-2019, 09:26 AM
Hi
I'm trying to farm in the insanity dungeon.
I'have seen a lot of solutions but all of them (Fudjo, Bakura,Inishmore, Hartacus)
are using the assassin werewolf.
By which caracter can I replace it?
Thank you

Hartacus
12-21-2019, 09:54 AM
Hi
I'm trying to farm in the insanity dungeon.
I'have seen a lot of solutions but all of them (Fudjo, Bakura,Inishmore, Hartacus)
are using the assassin werewolf.
By which caracter can I replace it?
Thank you

Just tried a few variations, unfortunately nothing Ive tried gets past wave 3. The counter/perfect death combo is pretty central to my set up

Zugzwang
12-21-2019, 12:42 PM
We can claim a Fear of the Dark soul when the event is over?

Celobeast
12-21-2019, 12:47 PM
You can try valhalla talisma in fallen flight of icarus eddie (better), or fligt of icarus.
Using this team, 100% safe until now, average time 1:56
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Valhalla, celestial, sustain inspiration warlord and forge.

Bakura
12-21-2019, 02:17 PM
Why does it seem like there's a pattern with these event dungeons, where as time goes by, the team you used on day 1 stops being effective and you have to change your team.

My 99% team started getting Defeats and taking longer.
So I changed some talis around and switched out a character.

This team is the quickest I've used as of yet, and 100% so far.

Best time 1:33 / Avg.1:56 on Auto.

Gambler- Forge/Cosmic
A. Werewolf- Inspiration/Warlords/Cosmic/Green (mystical)
A. LoL (Max)- Yin/Yang
Charlotte- Orbit
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DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 02:25 PM
Mixed Insanity auto team
Van Helsing Ed - Quantum
Musashi - Orbit
A. WW - Forge/Cosmic (Echo)
M. LoL - Alchemy/Cosmic

trying to find a faster team. I don't have Musashi, think anything else would be a good replacement? Know his passive is a big benefit and could make it hard to replace.
Now running Van Helsing, A WW, W LOL, and KP. 3 minute runs but only mid level relics. Could be I just can't get much faster without relic upgrades.

Bakura
12-21-2019, 02:40 PM
trying to find a faster team. I don't have Musashi, think anything else would be a good replacement? Know his passive is a big benefit and could make it hard to replace.
Now running Van Helsing, A WW, W LOL, and KP. 3 minute runs but only mid level relics. Could be I just can't get much faster without relic upgrades.
I tried the Hartacus team too, it was 3+ mins. for me, and I have all the relics.
I tried a few different teams, all were about 2.5 to 3.5 mins.

Once I started using Assassin LoL it got 1.5 mins. faster. His fury just rains down damage. I put Inspiration on A. Ww. so as he counters he also reduces buffs and then A. LoL just ends it.
Or if they are all ghosted, the perf. death from the Forge ends it.

Whenever I would suffer Defeats w/ other teams, it was always from Coalgiver Ed.
The A. LoL gives the team perf. Force shield and kills Ed before he gets going. A. LoL also doesn't take damage until the rest of the team is dead.

Ip4
12-21-2019, 02:55 PM
is Coalgiver Eddie in event soul?Still no event character in 40 event soul...:mad:

Hartacus
12-21-2019, 02:59 PM
Id been texting during rounds so wasnt sure of the true time it took, just know best is sitting at 2:44

SyTreXx
12-21-2019, 03:45 PM
I got 3 singularity in 230 fights...don’t really need it..
This game knows how to not give stuff you need when you need it.


Ah..I have way to many losses on insanity...can’t seem to find a stable farm team

Muzzleloader
12-21-2019, 03:50 PM
Bukura, does the order matter on your team?

Mateja
12-21-2019, 05:05 PM
My fastest team so far is Gambler (Forge), Wrathchild (Vallhala), Charlotte (Viper) and A. WW (Yin/Yang), best time 0:57, average ~1:40, no defeats in 350 runs. Just now swapped Wrathchild with a second WW (Starfire) to see if it will go faster but it seems more or less the same.

george-2964
12-21-2019, 05:10 PM
I have found a team that has worked without defeats in two mega refills, so I though I'd share (all relics are maxed):
Alternate cyborg (persecution/warlord/t3 cyborg cosmic) - persecution could be swapped with sacred
Killer prime (sustaining/warlord/inspiration)
Killer (Forge/future t3 cosmic)
A Warewolf (starfire)

Basically the Killer disables passives, killer prime permadeaths and starfires destroy the ghosts in the first round, without my toons dying due to forge talis. Sometimes 1 or 2 toons die, but the cyborg can solo most rounds except for the first.

Best time is less than 2mins

Muzzleloader
12-21-2019, 05:15 PM
Metaja, I am using the same team and average about 2:15. Fastest 0:55, slowest I know was 3:30.

I tried Bakura team and was a little faster, but they killed charolette several times.

DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 05:28 PM
So... Does Starfire return damage actually taken, not raw damage delt to you? So with like Van Helsing you don't get hurt, so no damage returned?

Mateja
12-21-2019, 05:43 PM
So... Does Starfire return damage actually taken, not raw damage delt to you? So with like Van Helsing you don't get hurt, so no damage returned?

That's right, if you block damage Starfire won't do anything.

infinite dreamer
12-21-2019, 05:53 PM
is Coalgiver Eddie in event soul?Still no event character in 40 event soul...:mad:

Yes, he's the only x-mas character I've pulled. (18 souls opened so far)

Ip4
12-21-2019, 06:33 PM
Yes, he's the only x-mas character I've pulled. (18 souls opened so far)

Not for me,53 souls opened and only two snowman...shit!

Almight-0147
12-21-2019, 06:38 PM
Bounty Hunter Eddie with Valhalla and t3 cosmic
raven witch with Starfire
assassin werewolf with forge/cosmic
wrathchid with light/cosmic
100% on auto avg time is 1:50 min best is 1:30min, hope this helps:)

kkkreg5
12-21-2019, 06:56 PM
In the Book of Souls, clicking the (!) icon near the top right will show you the percentage drops from the Christmas Soul. You have to do a little bit of extra maths to work it out for each specific character, but there is a higher than normal chance of getting a 5* compared with regular Rare souls. Better chances than regular event souls too, but arguably harder to get.

Hmm, the 4* characters might be slightly harder to obtain than the 5*. If I'm doing my numbers right, 12.20% for a 4*, with then a 37.75% chance for the event characters. So 4.6055%. There are 9 of those, so... 0.5117% for a specific 4* character.

4.20% for a 5*, with a high 78.73% of an event character. 3.30666%. Only 5 of those, bringing us to 0.661% for a specific 5*. Hah, I'm more likely to get Scrooge than Coalgiver :p

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Or do you mean something more like what they posted in the Arctic Avalanche thread for the Snowflake Soul? I found this rather interesting, and hope they'll post similar charts again in the future. Helps us make more informed decisions, and gives an insight into how they design their various loot boxes.

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They are offering packs with Legendary and Mythic Christmas souls but no mention of these dropping Scrooge or ghost frags. Does anyone know?

César Farfán
12-21-2019, 07:25 PM
I´ve been doing (trying) this with this team
Alex- Viper/ cosmic
W LoL (awakened lvl8) Orbit
A WW Starfire
KP- Advantage, Warlord, Sacred.

Just one thing... and it´s so frustrating, Alex steal benefits from each neggative in the enemy, well, frecuently he does it with ghost and dies... it´s really stupid how everyone has problems with others things, and me... :(
So, the team it´s really good. If someone can prove it, or another Ed, unfortunatelyfor me, he´s the best i got.

Beddie
12-21-2019, 07:28 PM
They should drop frags (albeit redundant frags cus there’s good odds a leg or myth will give out an event char)

DeathDealer-5301
12-21-2019, 07:32 PM
They are offering packs with Legendary and Mythic Christmas souls but no mention of these dropping Scrooge or ghost frags. Does anyone know?

Pretty sure those are gotten just from the 10 frag groups you get from each Christmas soul. 1000 for Scrooge and so on listed in the event list.

Maiden
12-21-2019, 09:05 PM
Bounty Hunter Eddie with Valhalla and t3 cosmic
raven witch with Starfire
assassin werewolf with forge/cosmic
wrathchid with light/cosmic
100% on auto avg time is 1:50 min best is 1:30min, hope this helps:)

I switched to this team with some talisman differences and it's working really fine, so far so good no losses! Good one there, thks!

Yup
12-21-2019, 10:09 PM
Scrooge Ed's passive is fantastic in these dungeons...

MuzakMaker
12-21-2019, 10:18 PM
game crash like crazy on ios,that's becouse devs only use android devices for testing...if they test anything...

I'm still getting consistent crashes on android. Let's be real, this team is too small no matter how they test we will still be faced with bugs and server issues and they don't seem to be doing anything to address it.

Yup
12-21-2019, 10:21 PM
I finally got through Magus-only madness with a different team. And I've pretty much lowered the crash rate to almost gone in Insanity by using a different team. Seems the constant crashing may be related to specific characters in specific dungeons. IT stil crashes every now and then, but not every run, or every other run like it was.

Yup
12-21-2019, 10:24 PM
They are offering packs with Legendary and Mythic Christmas souls but no mention of these dropping Scrooge or ghost frags. Does anyone know?

Those Legendary/Mythical Xmas souls do NOT drop any frags. But the standard Xmas souls will.

seneuk
12-21-2019, 10:26 PM
Thaks hartacus

URock
12-21-2019, 10:56 PM
Insanity Sentinel only is shit. Nothing works for me.
This should be fun? Sry... it's frustrating.
I need too many other things then this stupid new X-mss toons.

purplepeople
12-21-2019, 11:17 PM
Insanity Sentinel only is shit. Nothing works for me.
This should be fun? Sry... it's frustrating.
I need too many other things then this stupid new X-mss toons.

Yeah it doesn't seem worth it -- luckily the rewards for the sentinel-only challenge aren't anything special.

SyTreXx
12-21-2019, 11:35 PM
I finally got through Magus-only madness with a different team. And I've pretty much lowered the crash rate to almost gone in Insanity by using a different team. Seems the constant crashing may be related to specific characters in specific dungeons. IT stil crashes every now and then, but not every run, or every other run like it was.

What did you use for magus only?

Bakura
12-22-2019, 02:15 AM
I´ve been doing (trying) this with this team
Alex- Viper/ cosmic
W LoL (awakened lvl8) Orbit
A WW Starfire
KP- Advantage, Warlord, Sacred.

Just one thing... and it´s so frustrating, Alex steal benefits from each neggative in the enemy, well, frecuently he does it with ghost and dies... it´s really stupid how everyone has problems with others things, and me... :(
So, the team it´s really good. If someone can prove it, or another Ed, unfortunatelyfor me, he´s the best i got.

I tried Alex w/ Vipers too..... he keeps stealing ghost and then dies.
I stopped using Alex, but if you have to, use another tali, like orbit. The Vipers cause him to counter attack, so if he stops countering he then steals ghost much less.

Good Luck!

Knut-3112
12-22-2019, 03:28 AM
I've done 335 runs, mostly on Madness and not a single Singularity talisman. Can anyone confirm they dropping on madness or lower or do they only drop on insanity?

Almight-0147
12-22-2019, 04:56 AM
They will drop in all, depending upon luck, I got 4 of them in insanity so far.

Yup
12-22-2019, 07:08 AM
What did you use for magus only?

Fieldmarshall (Avenger/Tower) -- Also used Alchemist, but he used Fury too much
Scrooge Ed (Destiny)
M Onyx Son (Celestial)
Jacob Marley Ghost (Reaper/Ruin)

232 runs -- 2 Singularities.

Natasmai
12-22-2019, 07:33 AM
I'm at just about 1600 runs and I've had 14 singularity drop.

Discordian
12-22-2019, 09:59 AM
Huh... 1907 runs, only 12 talismans so far. Almost all on Insanity.

URock
12-22-2019, 11:18 AM
Insanity mixed team:

Van Helsing Eddie (Forge+Cosmic Immunity)
Lilith Nightmoon (Hex+Persecution)
W LOL max awakened (Orbit)
A WW (Yin+Yang)

Best time: 1:44 (it depends on that stupid cheating AI)

BennySalazar
12-22-2019, 11:26 AM
Has anyone gotten a singularly drop yet?

Yes, I had one singularity talis on 240 runs

Luckily I have a set from before cause I need it for the MAGUS challenge on Madness




Team for MAGUS autoplay:
M Football E/argentina
The Alchemist (forge)
M Shardbrone (singularity)
M Lilith (destiny)

Not the fastest, but I haven't got many top tier magic tiers. this one does the job fine


Team for regular autoplay on Madness
ONI E (celestial)
S Onyx Son (singularity)
A Werewolf (forge)
M Lilth (destiny)

This team works on Insanity as well but you can't leave your phone alone, because you not always get through the first round but if you do you ll make it to the end easily. Still looking to finetune for auto-insanity for more safety

razgriz
12-22-2019, 02:06 PM
thanks almight-0147, i dont have 5 light talis so i kept space talis on wrathcild and i'm able to hit 1:54min avg, with best being 1:34 min;

Iced_Earth
12-22-2019, 03:17 PM
Huh... 1907 runs, only 12 talismans so far. Almost all on Insanity.

Hey Discordian, would you share your Team ? Thanks:)

URock
12-22-2019, 04:46 PM
I switched Van Helsing to Cyborg Eddie (full awakened). Seems to be a better average time.

Cyborg Eddie (full awakened, Persecution+Boost+Cyborg Cosmic)
Lilith Nightmoon (Hex+Persecution)
W LOL max awakened (Orbit)
A WW (Yin+Yang)

Best time: 1:23

PS: another talisman on Lilith Moonchild?

Ip4
12-22-2019, 05:04 PM
magus only didn't work,game freeze everytime on end....fuck that i need 10 more souls for Scrooge Eddie...

URock
12-22-2019, 05:27 PM
magus only didn't work,game freeze everytime on end....fuck that i need 10 more souls for Scrooge Eddie...
So you got 1000 frags? Respect! I am farming since today, because I needed other things first.

Ydex
12-22-2019, 05:40 PM
I ran auto all night without losing or crashing--
Killer Prime - Sacred/Warlord/Sustain
Max Cyborg - Valhalla/T3
Killer Beast - Starfire*
Prisoner - Sacred/Boost/Sustain

Usually about 1:30. The longest runs are about 3 minutes, but the outcome is inevitable.

...


*eta: 1st wave always passive disabled and perma-deathed, but IF Cyborg doesn't one-shot them, they wreck themselves on the Starfire while my whole team is stunned.

URock
12-22-2019, 05:52 PM
The 2500 fragment pack is the best, right? So 10 souls, 10 days (less if 24/7 farming) = Willy Wonka Eddie?

Ip4
12-22-2019, 06:03 PM
So you got 1000 frags? Respect! I am farming since today, because I needed other things first.

this event requires near 2000 ironite for me...

Ydex
12-22-2019, 06:12 PM
I didn't run a spreadsheet on it but others have reported around 2000.

Caesar815
12-22-2019, 06:53 PM
this event requires near 2000 ironite for me...

This is what I expect at least. I suppose it will cost around 3k. But in the end I finally have all the new Xmas toons. Still waiting for two ghosts and Wonka Scrooge 😂🎅🏻

razgriz
12-23-2019, 04:25 AM
1k frags for scrooge ed: 10frag per christmas soul=100 souls (unless u get him with one then will be less) 10 c.souls @ 2500 pss frag= 25,000 frags @ at least 15 pss frags per insanity run @ 12 sot:
25000÷15=1,666.66667 matches
1,666.666667×12= 20,000 sot
20,000÷120=166.66667 sot refills
166.6667×30= 5,000 ironite
again this is if ur not lucky enough to get each main character with a christmas soul and have to get the full 100 souls; good luck to everyone on getting them

angelkelly
12-23-2019, 05:18 AM
Another crash based event.

MuzakMaker
12-23-2019, 06:16 AM
1k frags for scrooge ed: 10frag per christmas soul=100 souls (unless u get him with one then will be less) 10 c.souls @ 2500 pss frag= 25,000 frags @ at least 15 pss frags per insanity run @ 12 sot:
25000÷15=1,666.66667 matches
1,666.666667×12= 20,000 sot
20,000÷120=166.66667 sot refills
166.6667×30= 5,000 ironite
again this is if ur not lucky enough to get each main character with a christmas soul and have to get the full 100 souls; good luck to everyone on getting them

You're forgetting that we get up to 16 Christmas souls through the event achievements and first time completion of the first three difficulties. You really only need 21,500 frags

So your math should be:
21,500÷15=1,433.333.. . matches
1,433.33...×12= 17,200sot
17,200÷120=143.33... sot refills
143.33...×30= 4,300 ironite

It's only a savings of 700 ironite but with the constant events every single ironite matters.

razgriz
12-23-2019, 07:08 AM
honestly i'm just hoping i get at least one 5* this time, i haven't gotten a event 5* character from an event soul since The Count i think that was halloween 2018; not counting mega events that give us fragments with satalite 15 and for 2-3 months worth of build up

Olevipoeg
12-23-2019, 07:12 AM
My first calculations indicated Ironite need nearly 2000. I'm at 75% from getting Scrooge now. I started having 2700 ironite and now I have with all bonuses and King I reward in Arena about 2200. So the ironite drain is much lower as expected.

Knut-3112
12-23-2019, 08:06 AM
Over 400 runs on madness and still no talis. Starting to suspect they only drop from insanity, but I cannot autofarm it reliably. Manually yeah, but there's no way I'm gonna do it that way.
I still have some tali sets I haven't used before so I might try them out as well, but I doubt they're going to change anything here.

URock
12-23-2019, 10:19 AM
So far:

First 8 souls from challenges = Magus Ghost
3 10-packs = zero new toons (yeah!)

Now I need a little break, because I need to do Labyrinth Dungeon to max a little child from the moon...


PS: it's so lame that we can't buy needed stuff and need to farm another dungeon during a farm-event.

Smudger24
12-23-2019, 02:12 PM
Love the chances for characters. Never had enough time or ironite or luck to get VHE or BHE. Been missing out on a lot of the new characters lately.

56 christmas souls all old 3 star characters. Been playing this game since the beginning, don't remember it being so difficult and boring. Farm one dungeon for 14 days straight in hopes to get most of the characters. How exciting.

DeathDealer-5301
12-23-2019, 03:25 PM
I'm waiting until I can open 99 Christmas souls at once, so I can enjoy one large disappointment instead of multiple small disappointments. I'll still farm after that as long as I'm missing 4* or better Christmas toons.
My original insanity farm team was reliable but slow. Last night got average run time down to under 2 minutes so it's going much faster now.
Ironite use doesn't seem too bad if you've spent the last 2 weeks farming LOL XV like I have.

I'm using a variation of this team Almight posted...
Bounty Hunter Eddie with Valhalla and t3 cosmic
raven witch with Starfire
assassin werewolf with forge/cosmic
wrathchid with light/cosmic

but I don't have wrathchild, so using KP instead with Warlord and Inspiration
Ran for a while with W LOL but that was slower by a noticeable amount.

chrismt
12-23-2019, 04:19 PM
My team for insanity on fully auto with fairly easy toons to own

Shadow Wicker eddie with Celestial + cosmic immortality
A werewolf with quantum + cosmic immortality
Wrath child with valhala + cosmic death mark
A LOL with serenity + trap + cosmic echo

Specifically in that order so A lol can remove ghost on the 1st round.

Fastest time 0:52, average 1:45, longest I’ve noticed 3:42.

Haven’t lost a battle in over 500 runs.

URock
12-23-2019, 05:07 PM
Now I need a little break, because I need to do Labyrinth Dungeon to max a little child from the moon...

Moonchild maxed and it replaced my Charlotte. Moonchild and Lilith Nightmoon were so expensive, so now they should work for the money, right?
They do their best and team seems 100% safe...next 10-pack of Disapointment-Souls is in sight...

Ip4
12-23-2019, 05:44 PM
Event done,100 souls and I only don't have Gunner crampis from this event...

URock
12-23-2019, 05:46 PM
Event done,100 souls and I only don't have Gunner crampis from this event...
You can sacrifice the new Eddie and do it again:D

URock
12-23-2019, 05:56 PM
41 Disapointement-Souls opened: Assassin Ghost
New toons: 2

DeathDealer-5301
12-23-2019, 07:18 PM
Ok, here goes. I can't open 100, so first the single one...
Sentinel Dog of War. Oh well...

Next the 99...
2 Assassin Krampus
2 Ghost of Christmas Past
Clansman, new for me
Nomad, new for me
Nutcracker
3 Ghost of Christmas Future
bunch of dups... of regular and the deer, elf again I already had. Rest is all basic junk

Clean up inventory and claim the new souls...
Christmas Ghost Soul Sentinel/Gunner * 2 = One of each
Krampus soul = Assassin, done with Krampus
Scrooge is a sure thing
Christmas Ghost Soul Magus/Assassin * 2 = one of each - Jacob Marley and Future

Wow, I think I got all the main ones.
I think there is at least one more elf, I only have green, think there is a blue one? Not sure if that's in the Christmas soul. Once I get another soul I'll take a look and see what I'm missing

Also have gotten 4 talisman drops, 2 were overnight last night, so like 800-900 runs to get the first 2.

Damn, just checked and I don't have Coalgiver yet. That really sucks. 3 of some 5* but not a 4* Coalgiver.

Maiden
12-23-2019, 07:47 PM
For those who are still doing the dungeon remember that snow talisman also prevent perfect stunt, they might make everything a little faster, good luck!

Ancient Mariner
12-23-2019, 08:03 PM
How do you people collect so many souls? :confused:
Are you neverending farming or am i missing something? If i'm right there's no way to buy souls pack as it worked once for every event of this kind..

I hate when you can't use your ironite to buy souls pack, but have to farm 24/7 to get frags to convert in souls...it's utterly boring and i won't keep my device busy 24/7 just for this game

DeathDealer-5301
12-23-2019, 08:09 PM
How do you people collect so many souls? :confused:
Are you neverending farming or am i missing something? If i'm right there's no way to buy souls pack as it worked once for every event of this kind..

I hate when you can't use your ironite to buy souls pack, but have to farm 24/7 to get frags to convert in souls...it's utterly boring and i won't keep my device busy 24/7 just for this game

You can buy the packs for $$$, but you're right, not for ironite. Yes, I've been grinding since the start, but my first few days were much slower. I've run some at night now that the servers seems stable again. I thought I was done but still missing Coal Giver. Probably get a few dozen more souls over the next week and hope for the best.

Yup
12-23-2019, 08:20 PM
Grind wouldn't be so bad if the app didn't crash so often. Seems they just don't care it crashes.

MuzakMaker
12-24-2019, 12:53 AM
Grind wouldn't be so bad if the app didn't crash so often. Seems they just don't care it crashes.

The more crashes you experience the more likely you are to cave and just buy one of the Christmas packs.

URock
12-24-2019, 10:49 PM
71 souls opened:

1x Magus Ghost
1x Assassin Ghost
1x Sentinel Ghost (with frags)
1x Gunner Krampus (yeah...my first, but years too late)

Beddie
12-24-2019, 11:32 PM
Opened 33 souls
4 red eyes and all of them non event 4 stars

DeathDealer-5301
12-25-2019, 04:38 AM
Gave up on Sentinel Insane challenge after 2 hours. Had the suggested toons and talismans but must not have the relics high enough. Mid level global relics but no sentinel specific and no free coins to buff with at the moment. Rewards for it aren't enough for me to revisit at this point.

Azagthor
12-25-2019, 04:58 AM
Has anyone had much experience with those store-gold Lightbringer Relics? Can they make a real difference, or are they mostly used to speed things up once you've got a reliable team?

DeathDealer-5301
12-25-2019, 05:44 AM
Has anyone had much experience with those store-gold Lightbringer Relics? Can they make a real difference, or are they mostly used to speed things up once you've got a reliable team?

I've bought them before and this time too. It makes a difference, but I think the boost is based on Base stats. The higher your relic boost the less noticable these will be. If you're getting wiped out in battles this probably won't be enough, but if you are close it will help for sure. Just need to figure out if the gold cost is worth it. I wouldn't have gotten them this time but I'm also running LOL farming, and this time it boosts LOL dungeon too.

URock
12-25-2019, 10:29 AM
81 souls opened:

1x Magus Ghost
1x Assassin Ghost
1x Sentinel Ghost (with frags)
1x Gunner Krampus (yeah...my first, but years too late)
+ a 2nd Gunner Krampus (with frags)

Caesar815
12-25-2019, 12:43 PM
70 xmas souls opened so far:

1x Ghost M
1x Ghost A
1x Krampus A
1x Ghost G/S (whatever it’ll be - haven’t openend the soul through frags yet).

And a lot of 4* dupes. Feels like getting 4* toons is much easier than 3* ones during this event.

Beddie
12-25-2019, 01:25 PM
36 souls
0 5 stars
6 4 stars (one was an event character (magus Snowman)
1 event 3 star

Got Marley from the 350 frags

Iced_Earth
12-25-2019, 06:04 PM
101 souls

1x gunner Krampus, dupe
1x Assasin krampus, dupe, frags
2x coalgiver, dupe
1x green 1x yellow ghost, 2x from frags
2x scrooge ED, one from frags
1x magus ghost, assasin one through ghostsoul
1x green elf, dupe

Tons of colourless 3x evo runes, skillshards

The grind was insane, but it seems.. really worth

Ydex
12-25-2019, 08:18 PM
You can get Coalgiver from the Xmas souls?

real_schweiger
12-25-2019, 08:30 PM
Yes, I got him from one of my (so far) 90 souls.
The red-eye drops were really rare, I think I pulled 4-5 4*Toons, no 5*. At least all 4* were christmas toons (coalgiver, 2x wickerdeer, Ghost of any christmas)

Running the final runs for the 1000 frags and I get all I "need" - that´s ok but could have been better, of course ;)

SinGularity-8786
12-25-2019, 09:52 PM
100 event souls and again not a single event specific character...

Bakura
12-25-2019, 10:58 PM
101 event souls.

Drops:
2x G. Krampus (dupe)
2x A. Krampus (new for me)
1x M. Ghost
1x A. Ghost

1x Coalgiver Ed and various reindeer, elves, snowmen (all dupes)

Frags:
Scrooge Ed
M. Ghost
S. Ghost
G. Ghost
A. Ghost
Krampus (unopened)

10 Singularity


Thanks Devs for a beautiful dungeon and the awesome "Appreciation Gift Pack!"

Merry Christmas to all at Navigator Games/Nodding Frog....
especially Ceeg, Durandal, Leviathan, Ruby, Kaz and any other moderators.

🎅🍻🎄🎁☃️🥂❄

Azagthor
12-26-2019, 05:05 AM
Finally stopped trying to make Insanity work and used a couple of mega-refills on Madness yesterday. Got my first 10-pack of souls, and was expecting the old blue-eyed monster to say hello.

Instead pulled G Krampus and the Blue Ghost! That's my Christmas luck all used up :cool:


Continuing on Madness will probably cost me a fair bit more in ironite than those able to farm Insanity, but there is still over a week left to go, so I might stick with it, try at least to get one of the 5* ghosts. And hopefully Coalgiver.

DeathDealer-5301
12-26-2019, 05:32 AM
Azagthor, what team were you trying on insanity?

Phoenix-7282
12-26-2019, 08:46 AM
Sentinel ghost has all blue slots. So why is it wearing brave in the dungeon?

Yup
12-26-2019, 09:15 AM
.. REALLy wish they would address the 80% crash rate... 2 runs crash 2 runs crash 2 runs crash 2 runs crash 2 runs crash. I'd be embarrassed if it were my app.

Beddie
12-26-2019, 10:36 AM
They hate us, that’s why

URock
12-26-2019, 10:40 AM
101 Event Souls:

1x Scrooge Eddie (frags)
1x Magus Ghost
1x Assassin Ghost
1x Gunner Ghost
1x Sentinel Ghost (with frags)
1x Assassin Krampus
1x Gunner Krampus (yeah...my first, but years too late)
1x Gunner Krampus (with frags)

MetalKing
12-26-2019, 12:53 PM
40 event souls opened, 1 duplicate coalgiver. Several other 3 and 4 star characters.

Caesar815
12-26-2019, 02:04 PM
10 souls missing to open - then I’ll have all of them 😊

Yup
12-26-2019, 07:32 PM
Countless souls.. and 2 shots with frags.. I can't seem to pull the Gunner Ghost.. have all the others (close to a second Scrooge).. and have had Sentinel Ghost at least 8 times. Really annoying that I have to collect another 500 xmas souls.. so 12,500 frags to get another shot at Gunner Ghost via frags.... which in all probability will again drop the Sentinel Ghost. If they are going to have 2 character in 1 frag collection they REALLY ned to lower the frag requirement like they did for the assassin/magus ghosts.

Natasmai
12-26-2019, 08:34 PM
ive heard people say the ironite returns on madness were almost break-even. didnt test it though. its give it a go.

DeathDealer-5301
12-26-2019, 10:22 PM
Did a test in Insanity and was losing about 8 Ironite per 30 Ironite refill, so not horrible compared to some dungeons.

Yup
12-26-2019, 10:34 PM
Did a test in Insanity and was losing about 8 Ironite per 30 Ironite refill, so not horrible compared to some dungeons.

Probably come out ahead if you weren't losing runs due to crashing :)

Muzzleloader
12-26-2019, 10:39 PM
I had about a 30% ironite on 1200 insanity runs.

Azagthor
12-27-2019, 05:24 AM
ive heard people say the ironite returns on madness were almost break-even. didnt test it though. its give it a go.

I'm still farming on madness, the ironite return is around 50%, it's not break-even. The SoT drops are pretty negligible too, I've been getting ~68 runs per mega-refill, which mean the average run cost gets reduced from 10 to just below 9. The double drop of Possessed Snowman Fragments is also rather uncommon, the average fragment drop per run is just over 9 (instead of the usual 8). Also haven't had a single Skill Shard or Singularity drop in 400 Madness runs. Frontier Coin drops aren't too impressive either, had 40 from my last 150 runs.


Now we're half way through the event, what do you all think of the new characters? Are any of them game-changers? Any super useful for certain dungeons or challenges?

Caesar815
12-27-2019, 06:09 AM
I don’t get any iron Ironite back. It’s nearly the same as it was with cyborg dungeon. Everybody was posting how much SoT he got back and, yet, I was still wondering ... now the same problem. As I assumed earlier to have a total cost of about 2k ironite. In the meanwhile after around 2k runs in madness I think my costs are about 2,5k ironite and I still need 10 Xmas souls more. So it will go up to around 3k at the end.

And during the same time another dungeon event has started of which I’m certain, I won’t achieve the goals, so I better not try because of the lack of more time/needed toons/and ironite..

Phoenix-7282
12-27-2019, 06:48 AM
Got all the ghosts, Nutcracker and assassin Krampus so far. (Some with fragments). Should be getting Scrooge in two days. Happy with the event.

The 4th wave with gunner Krampus in insanity seems to have some bug. Sometimes Krampus puts a ton of marks when he attacks. The wickerdeers aren't responsible for that because they are still alive. None of them have any talismans that could apply marks. Not sure what is happening there.

Yup
12-27-2019, 08:17 AM
Wickerdeers die and inflict marks. Could be reflected damage from the Krampus attack.

Phoenix-7282
12-27-2019, 08:36 AM
Wickerdeers die and inflict marks. Could be reflected damage from the Krampus attack.

But both wickerdeers were alive when it happened. They don't have any revival talismans. Must have something to do with reflected damage as you said. I have starfire in my team.

Lthepostman
12-27-2019, 11:35 AM
Honestly I just take whatever is good for me from this kind of events. I'll grind enough to get the guaranteed 5* ghost and hope to see the yellow one. I got the other 4* from the souls I opened (1 from the ass/magus) and don't really expect to see Scrooge in the next 15 souls I'll open towards my last goal. The only things I am concerned about is missing a nice 5* magus ed which will be really helpful during next magus based season in gauntlet. I hope that they will refresh the magus roster before that season comes cause nowadays they wouldn't stand a chanche in AAA against strong meta teams.

DeathDealer-5301
12-27-2019, 02:31 PM
Just got my 2nd Scrooge, so yeah, I've opened over 200 Christmas souls. Still no Coalgiver. Going to take some time off to grind in the PVP for some iron coins today.

Almight-0147
12-27-2019, 04:01 PM
Used 100 event souls,Got all Ghosts, coalgiver Eddie, Gunner Krampus (2) Scrooge Eddie, was not able to get assassin Krampus and Nutcracker, satisfied with the event.

Azagthor
12-27-2019, 06:13 PM
There is an interesting bug with the Yellow Ghost's beneficial effect removal passive. When it removes a snow shield at the beginning of a battle, it causes the shield to explode as if it had been broken with damage, instead of removed. I wrote about it, and my testing to replicate it the bugged character thread here (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12734-Compendium-of-Bugged-Chars-Talismans&p=116158&viewfull=1#post116158). Has anyone else noticed that happening with any of the other exploding shields? I don't have a Green Minotaur to test Stone Shield, or the Magma Beast Eddie for the Magma Shield.

DeathDealer-5301
12-29-2019, 04:29 AM
It took 240 Christmas souls, but I finally got Coalgiver Eddie. Returns on this dungeon were OK. Think I averaged 1 FC per run, maybe a bit less. I'm also stocked with over a dozen 5 star toons for future sac event, not to mention all the toons from Vortex and regular sac of dup's. Think in the past few weeks I've add 40 new toons.

Azagthor
12-29-2019, 12:33 PM
It took 240 Christmas souls, but I finally got Coalgiver Eddie. Returns on this dungeon were OK. Think I averaged 1 FC per run, maybe a bit less. I'm also stocked with over a dozen 5 star toons for future sac event, not to mention all the toons from Vortex and regular sac of dup's. Think in the past few weeks I've add 40 new toons.

That's a good haul! Did you end up getting all the event characters?


I was thinking of opening 50 souls and stopping there, as I'd already got lucky with the Gunner Krampus and Gunner Ghost from regular souls, but I somehow got my numbers wrong and ended up with 600/1000 Scrooge fragments... and hoo boy is the sunk cost fallacy hitting hard! If I use an emulator all day, and my phone overnight, I can get the ~1000 runs I'll need to get the grumpy old man. Will take over 50 hours.

This will hopefully be the last event dungeon I'll ever need to farm madness for! Got a taste for Insanity from the Cyborg, but just don't have a reliable way to handle silver debuffs for this one. On the plus side, I will never, ever, ever run out of Cosmic XP Shards!



Oddly enough, after 850 runs without any trouble, I had two defeats earlier today. Just an incredibly unlucky situation where several things all went wrong at the same time. Have swapped out Killer Prime for the Gunner Ghost, sacrificing Curse for a more reliable Buff Removal passive. Hopefully there wont be any more defeats in the next 850 runs.

DeathDealer-5301
12-29-2019, 02:59 PM
Yes, after the first 100 souls I had all but Coalgiver so that's why I kept going. I forgot about the store items so I'm going to get enough frags for all those.
Really haven't taken time to look at the new toons but it sounds like Scrooge would be useful. You'll have to decide if it's worth it for you to keep grinding for him.

MuzakMaker
12-29-2019, 08:27 PM
Redeemed my 70-80th souls today and here's where I'm sitting.

1 Assassin Ghost
3 Sentinel Elves

3 non-Christmas 4 stars
73 non-Christmas 3 stars

I haven't claimed any of my frags yet. I'm waiting for soul number 100 to see what I still need.

It's a good thing I already have all of the previously released toons and I'm only going for the new stuff. Otherwise this would feel like a giant waste of my time.

Yup
12-30-2019, 02:11 AM
This dungeon crashes much less often if you do NOT use troopers in it... at least that's my experience with Insanity.

I've been grinding for the past 3 days jsut to try and get the gunner ghost... no luck.. and it sucks.

Celobeast
12-30-2019, 12:37 PM
I got no crashes, using android, almost 1650 runs and just crash one time, using troopers there all days and no problems here.
Someone knows a team using only sentinel to finish that mission?Still not able yet to finish that.

Ip4
12-30-2019, 01:49 PM
Crash is only on ios,i can't play any dungeon on ipad mini 2,that's why i buy android phone...

DeathDealer-5301
12-30-2019, 02:01 PM
I got no crashes, using android, almost 1650 runs and just crash one time, using troopers there all days and no problems here.
Someone knows a team using only sentinel to finish that mission?Still not able yet to finish that.

I gave up on Sentinel after 2 hours, perty sure you need Max or near Max relics even if you have the right toons. Reward isn't worth the effort at this point.

Celobeast
12-30-2019, 02:43 PM
I gave up on Sentinel after 2 hours, perty sure you need Max or near Max relics even if you have the right toons. Reward isn't worth the effort at this point.

Even with all maxed relics and maxed lord of light i gave up auto-play, as you say, reward isnt worth, just the felling of left something unfinished is killing me :D

nitro
12-30-2019, 06:26 PM
This is what I used for Insanity auto runs.

BHE : Valhalla + T3 cyborg cosmic
Raven Witch : Starfire
WrathChild : Light + T1 Echo cosmic
A WW : Forge + T2 Echo cosmic
Average time 1:01 ~ 1:30.

MuzakMaker
12-30-2019, 07:01 PM
Crash is only on ios,i can't play any dungeon on ipad mini 2,that's why i buy android phone...

I still get crashes all the time on android. Conveniently they happen whenever I set the app to grind while I sleep or do something else where I can't watch it.

Yup
12-30-2019, 09:40 PM
It would seem all the crashing is related to loading of cinematics - either between battles or at the end with the victory cinematics. And it'll crash when there's no more SOT left rather than presenting the popup.... if running troopers it'll crash every 3 or 4 runs or more often. Without Troopers it'll crash every 10-15 runs. I'm actually AMAZED when I can burn through 100-150 SOT without a crash.

----------------

Addendum...

I'm pissed....

Grinded, grinded, grinded... no Gunner Ghost...

2 Scrooge Eds (via frags)... COUNTLESS Sentinel Ghosts (like double digits.. 12 I think.. I sac'ed a bunch.. 4 from frags).. at least 3 of the other ghosts EACH.. but no damn gunner ghost.

Seriously... total shit. Devs stop placing multiple rare characters together in a single high frag souls for an event unless the OTHER character will ACTUALLY drop. I've claimed those frags no less than 4 times and all 4 times have been the S ghost. And then I got like 8 other S ghosts from the xmas souls........ but in hundreds of souls STILL have NEVER seen the Gunner Ghost. WTF???

SinGularity-8786
12-31-2019, 01:05 AM
Same here too... But stopped after 3rd Sentinel Ghost.

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 06:18 AM
I’m still missing sentinel ghost. Got gunner twice from frags. 😐 why can’t it be just like you said yup. If you got the one toon with one soul, then program code should give you option two toon with the second soul. The duping should start with soul three again in my opinion ... (unless if there are just two toons) ...

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 06:36 AM
Does anybody have team suggestions for M challenge in madness. Thought about trying sort of raven’s altair’s team which consists of M toons except for Maclo bot that I’m going to exchange with M LOL I think. Any ideas to that so I can finish that event achievement, too?!

razgriz
12-31-2019, 07:03 AM
u by any chance have dark clairvoyant? on jan1 since i have off i'm going to be using either crusader/7th son/edward as they're my heavy hitters for m.eds then its between lilith, clairvoyant, a.mariner, minotaur, soulless demon, madam, onyx son, and werewolf.

talismans i plan on using will be celestial, starfire, forge, frontier, destiny, labyrinth, singularity, oracle

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 07:26 AM
u by any chance have dark clairvoyant?

No, I’m missing her and lab talis at the moment.
But I got all the other toons and talis you mentioned. I thought of using Scrooge Ed because - I think it was yup who said - that she was amazing in that dungeon.

razgriz
12-31-2019, 07:32 AM
ok, yeah i remember that post though forgot about having scrooge since i've been focused on tring for g.ghost. scrooge's passive would def. be a great asset to deal with the neg. effect ghosts

Yup
12-31-2019, 07:39 AM
Scrooge Ed is fantastic at these dungeons. because of his passive to clear gold buffs on enemies when he's hit.

I THINK.. I used Scrooge (Destiny/Warp), Madame (Alchemy), Ferryman (Hex/Tranquility/Cosmic), and Corrupt Fieldmarshall (Tower/Avenger) -- You can substitute the Alchemist in there for anyone as well. He's often the first to die though and this team doesn't have a "reviver" on it -- but Alchemist with Labyrinths should hold up.

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 07:44 AM
Scrooge Ed is fantastic at these dungeons. because of his passive to clear gold buffs on enemies when he's hit.

I THINK.. I used Scrooge (Destiny/Warp), Madame (Alchemy), Ferryman (Hex/Tranquility/Cosmic), and Corrupt Fieldmarshall (Tower/Avenger) -- You can substitute the Alchemist in there for anyone as well (he's often the first to die though and this team doesn't have a "reviver" on it).

Yes thx a lot. I’ll try that one although I don’t have field-marshal. But I’ll figure it out anyways. Cheers

Xanofar
12-31-2019, 07:48 AM
I have opened 91 Christmas souls so far. I haven't gotten very many of the actual Christmas characters from it except...
5 were Gunner Krampus. I don't even know what I'm going to do with them all. I capped and sharded one, and put three at level 1 unsharded on my Arena Defense team as a joke. I guess I'll sacrifice the 5th?

Still can't get the Nutcracker though.

Yup
12-31-2019, 08:04 AM
Ancient Mariner (Avenger/Energy) works well too. And of course M LOL, but I figured that may be a non-starter as well. M Onyx Son with Celestials is good....

annouvis25
12-31-2019, 01:21 PM
[QUOTE=DeathDealer-5301;115722]Sup had a team suggestion similar to this one. Try S Onyx Son, or any green guy that can carry alchemy I think. He also listed Wicker Ox if you have him to try in the mix.[/

DOESNT WORK TO ME I LOST FROM FIRST ROUND

annouvis25
12-31-2019, 01:22 PM
Anybody can tell me sentinel team tha works for last stage????

Celobeast
12-31-2019, 04:19 PM
The souls characters drop sucks, I opened 121 souls, just 2 five stars ( 2 krampus) about 18 four stars all dupe, just one or two from event, the character i most want was coalgiver, but 0 coalgiver to me, all the other christmas events I didn't have luck, now again, opened 2 yellow/green ghost, and got 2 yellow ghost, still missing the green ghost and eddie coalgiver. I'll keep farming until open 150 souls, to try another ghost and coalgiver. Someone have luck to got the coalgiver this year?

razgriz
12-31-2019, 05:11 PM
is coalgiver even part of the characters? i've opened 64 c.souls got 3a.krampus, 1 scrooge, 2 s.ghost, 3 m.ghost, the 2 5* gunners are avoiding me

Maiden
12-31-2019, 06:54 PM
The souls characters drop sucks, I opened 121 souls, just 2 five stars ( 2 krampus) about 18 four stars all dupe, just one or two from event, the character i most want was coalgiver, but 0 coalgiver to me, all the other christmas events I didn't have luck, now again, opened 2 yellow/green ghost, and got 2 yellow ghost, still missing the green ghost and eddie coalgiver. I'll keep farming until open 150 souls, to try another ghost and coalgiver. Someone have luck to got the coalgiver this year?

I got Coalgiver with the 10 first souls... and its a dupe for me... If there would be a way to give it to you I´d do it!!

Besides Coalgiver I only got Sentinel Ghost from the Souls (opened 90 already, everything else was bleh...) but I´m really happy though, I had with fragments every other new toon and my missing A. Krampus! just a little more to Scrooge and I´m done.

DeathDealer-5301
12-31-2019, 06:58 PM
is coalgiver even part of the characters? i've opened 64 c.souls got 3a.krampus, 1 scrooge, 2 s.ghost, 3 m.ghost, the 2 5* gunners are avoiding me

I had to open 240 to get Coalgiver, think someone worked out the odds and it's about 5% for 10 souls, so not great. On "Average" you should have it in 100 souls, but, well, sometimes it takes 240 LOL

DeathDealer-5301
12-31-2019, 07:00 PM
[QUOTE=DeathDealer-5301;115722]Sup had a team suggestion similar to this one. Try S Onyx Son, or any green guy that can carry alchemy I think. He also listed Wicker Ox if you have him to try in the mix.[/

DOESNT WORK TO ME I LOST FROM FIRST ROUND

I gave up on the Sentinel one, I had mid level relics and the suggested toons for the most part, but just couldn't get it. Think after 2 hours I had one success and couldn't do it again, so I gave up.

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 08:36 PM
The souls characters drop sucks [...] Someone have luck to got the coalgiver this year?

Got him 2 times this year and to be honest already had him several times. I sacrificed him 4 times during this year and still have one.

But I got the same gunner/sentinel ghost problem as you celo. Got 2 times G ghost out of G/S soul. Still missing S ghost 👻. Gosh

Opened about 120 souls. I don’t know if I continue grinding ... in the end I rather get a second Scrooge or a 4th Krampus.... than anything else I need - as always.

Caesar815
12-31-2019, 09:28 PM
Ancient Mariner (Avenger/Energy) works well too. And of course M LOL, but I figured that may be a non-starter as well. M Onyx Son with Celestials is good....

The team I ran for M achievement was in the end:
Scrooge (celestial & cosmic)
LOL (alchemy & cosmic)
LOL (oracle)
Crimean S (warlord, sustaining & inspiration)

Didn’t change the positions. I’m sure the team would be faster if Crimean began. But it was safe auto farming though.

Addition:
But 1 time the game got stuck, when Crimean used frozen flesh for S ghost. Ghost was frozen permanently and was ghosted. As he couldn’t act and finish his 1 round, the counter never reached zero and he didn’t die.

MuzakMaker
01-01-2020, 02:54 AM
Redeemed my 70-80th souls today and here's where I'm sitting.

1 Assassin Ghost
3 Sentinel Elves

3 non-Christmas 4 stars
73 non-Christmas 3 stars

I haven't claimed any of my frags yet. I'm waiting for soul number 100 to see what I still need.

It's a good thing I already have all of the previously released toons and I'm only going for the new stuff. Otherwise this would feel like a giant waste of my time.

Opened up my final 20 souls and was created with

2 sentinel elves
1 non-christmas four star
17 non-christmas 3 stars

Opened up my Frag souls
2 Sentinel Ghosts
1 Assassin Ghost
1 Magus ghost

Now the question is can I fit in the about 300 more runs to try to get that gunner ghost? I am getting tired of these either or souls for new characters. I don't mind it for the krampuses as they are both already released toons but boy is it annoying to spend all that time grinding and get boned by rng

Azagthor
01-01-2020, 03:13 AM
I had to open 240 to get Coalgiver, think someone worked out the odds and it's about 5% for 10 souls, so not great. On "Average" you should have it in 100 souls, but, well, sometimes it takes 240 LOL

It's half that rate, works out at a 0.51% chance for Coalgiver each soul. So your 240 isn't too unlucky.

Would have liked to get my hands on a Coalgiver for ego reasons, but quite pleased I managed to get all the ghosts and krampuses in the 100 event souls. They should give my roster a well needed boost :)

Yup
01-01-2020, 09:40 AM
Now the question is can I fit in the about 300 more runs to try to get that gunner ghost?


Good f'n luck.. 1600 runs.. hundreds of souls.. 4 full frag pulls.. and never saw the gunner ghost.

FYI, although I had Coalgiver from last year.. I never saw him in this event until the LAST 10 souls I dropped (will drop).. then he popped up.

zzzoron
01-01-2020, 10:16 AM
Good f'n luck.. 1600 runs.. hundreds of souls.. 4 full frag pulls.. and never saw the gunner ghost.

FYI, although I had Coalgiver from last year.. I never saw him in this event until the LAST 10 souls I dropped (will drop).. then he popped up.

Confirm: Santa dropped from the 10th pack. And no G ghost for me either.

Bakura
01-01-2020, 08:40 PM
Well, I decided to finish the Sentinel/Insanity challenge, just to check off the list.
I used a variation on Yup's setup (thanks man!)

Best time 5:48 Manual
Avg. 9 mins. Manual

Pharoah Ed- Brave
S. LoL- Artifact/Cosmic
S. Ghost-Alchemy/Cosmic
KP-Greed/Warlords

The main issue is that the camera view is so low, it's really difficult to select targets or get perfect hits.
7390

Yup
01-01-2020, 09:21 PM
The main issue is that the camera view is so low, it's really difficult to select targets or get perfect hits.

Seems to happen a LOT... I realize they are recycling code.. but I wish they'd fix this. It can be damn near impossible to target an enemy due tot he view angle, and some dungeons completely hide enemies behind allies.

Muzzleloader
01-01-2020, 09:36 PM
Besides the view and angle all the stacks of buffs interfer with the game.

At least in ravens alter the buffs on raven in the last wave is offset.

MetalKing
01-02-2020, 12:19 AM
75 souls now. Marleyx3, future x1, hunter wickerdeerx2, Assassin krampus, ghost of Christmas past, coalgiver duplicate, ghost of Christmas present, several other 4 stars, multiple 3 stars. Probably not getting scrooge. Out of ironite.

razgriz
01-02-2020, 12:34 AM
1 scrooge, 2 g. of present, 4 a.krampus, 2 g. of future, 2 g. of marley are the event toons i got with 84 souls and the frag souls, still trying for g. ghost

Heavy1974
01-02-2020, 09:13 AM
Didn`t counted the runs, got all Ghosts and Scrooge. Best Event result for me yet.
2 Souls away from Krampus soul...

Yup
01-02-2020, 09:27 AM
Didn`t counted the runs


Just check the Achievements.. the 150 run reward.. how many times x 150 + any remaining - total runs.

Azagthor
01-02-2020, 10:04 AM
It can be damn near impossible to target an enemy due tot he view angle, and some dungeons completely hide enemies behind allies.

Killer Prime? More like Killing-My-View-By-Being-So-Massive Prime.

Alvorada
01-02-2020, 06:52 PM
101 event souls gave 2 new toons: magus ghost and nutcraker.

Assassin krampus still evades me, as I geted a dupe gunner for the krampus soul.

But, I had luck with the ghost souls: 1 assassin out of 2 magus/assassin souls and one each in 2 gunner/sentinel ghost souls.

End-up with all new folks and one of two christmas toon I missed.

Celobeast
01-02-2020, 06:57 PM
Im my last attempt to get the Coalgiver and Sentinel Ghost, I got them, last 10 pack soul I opened popped up Coalgiver, after with 500 fragments I got Sentinel Ghost, so after 150 Souls and 2138 runs on tiny team dungeon, Im done with this event. :)

infinite dreamer
01-02-2020, 07:00 PM
Im my last attempt to get the Coalgiver and Sentinel Ghost, I got them, last 10 pack soul I opened popped up Coalgiver, after with 500 fragments I got Sentinel Ghost, so after 150 Souls and 2138 runs on tiny team dungeon, Im done with this event. :)

Congratulations, nice job Celobeast! I hear ya, that is a lot of grinding.

Caesar815
01-02-2020, 09:13 PM
Still missing S ghost. Since X-Mas toons have been released I’m only missing him.
Maybe next X-Mas event 🎄🎅🏻😂.

And the most annoying thing about that is the fact that I got 2 chances to get him out of the ghost souls but got G ghost 2 times.

Bakura
01-03-2020, 03:00 AM
Killer Prime? More like Killing-My-View-By-Being-So-Massive Prime.
Yep! I mentioned previously about the camera angle making it extremely difficult to target & get perfect hits, especially if they have perf. blind.

I found my self having to time his "sway" for a gap to open up in order to target enemies in the middle, especially ghosts.

Horus-2545
01-03-2020, 04:04 AM
Sadly I got sentinel ghost twice and no past ghost. I got Marley 3 times and not the other. Poor luck. Odds are really only 1/8 to do that.