Powerslave Dungeon Launch Event - Earn Fragments to trade for Awakening Material

[Leviathan]

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The Powerslave Dungeon - a new permanent Frontier Dungeon has just launched!

To celebrate its release, we’re having a 6 day event where you can work towards Powerslave Awakening Material and 2 new character specific Talismans!

From now until January 20th at 4PM PT, complete Event Challenges in the Powerslave Frontier Dungeon to earn Powerslave Fragments, Gold, Talisman Soul Fragments and MORE!

You can access the Powerslave Dungeon by purchasing Key Souls with Gold (this event only) or with Frontier Coins. More details on the Dungeon below!

Powerslave Soul Fragments are used in store to purchase rare items including character specific Cosmic Talismans for Horus and Nomad! These rare items are available in the store only during this event, and it may be a long time before you see them again.

The Cosmic Horus Talisman provides an exclusive bonus when equipped to a fully Awakened Horus. This Talisman increases all stats in battle, and reduces incoming damage. It also grants Perfect Health to all allies, deals additional random damage every action and inflicts Perfect Stun and Perfect Disable.

The Cosmic Nomad Talisman provides an exclusive bonus when equipped to The Nomad. This Talisman increases the stats of yourself and your allies in battle, and reduces incoming damage. It ensures that all of your attacks land as Perfect Attacks and that you are Immune to all Silence and Ability Disabling effects - this includes the silencing effect from the Moonchild’s Seven Angels and Seven Demons passive. Finally this Talismans will grant 1 Power and a 25% chance for an Extra Turn to each ally every action.

You can also trade in Powerslave Fragments to pick up Horus’s unique Awakening material - the Powerslave Awakening Shard!

Purchase this Awakening Shard so you can finish Awakening Horus!



Awakening Horus!

Horus is now fully awakenable.

Gaze in the Eye of Horus and succumb to his power! In his fully Awakened form Horus’s Fury attack transforms into a powerful passive/fury combo that deals true damage to all enemies, removes Immunity and Shield Effects while disabling Singularity Talismans and inflicting Silence and Blind!

Horus will also grant Immunity to all allies at the start of battle for the duration of battle. It also deals random damage to enemies when they heal based on the heal amount.

For full details on the Awakening feature head to our Awakening Guide news post!



[B][I]Powerslave Dungeon Details[B][I]
Earn Pharaoh Ramesses Eddie by completing Powerslave Dungeon Achievements!

Once it is unlocked, the Powerslave Dungeon will be open for 2 hours total and can be played an unlimited amount of times during that period.

The first time you complete this dungeon, you will receive set rewards including a Legendary Soul, Talisman Soul Fragments and more. All subsequent victories are guaranteed to provide Evo Shards, as well as a chance of bonus rewards, including Eternity and Fortune Talismans.

The Powerslave Dungeon has 5 new Achievements associated with it. Complete these Achievements to earn Pharaoh Ramesses Eddie, the fully skill sharded Special Edition version of Pharaoh Eddie.

You can learn more about this character by checking the Compendium in the Book of Souls screen, and see full Achievement details in-game!

[Bartman9999]

Great, the game is not working for iOS users. But it is for other platforms
Should we expect massive crashes in iOS, same as with recent frontier and event dungeons?

[Bakura]

It's working for Android but clan checkin only gave 8 pts. not the level bonus, shorted 32 pts.

I've got Horus at lvl. 8 now... he looks cool.

(*edit.... re-loaded the game a 2nd time, it's now showing clan bonus... weird.)

[Bakura]

"Holy Shiznitz Batman.... this one is tougher than it looks!"

I think less experienced players will find this dungeon impossible
This is comparable to an INSANITY level requiring sentinels.

Seriously, the final stage has every GOD of Egypt, and the AI knows to save W. Sekmet until last to give everyone an extra turn w/ critical strike.
It must be Ramesses cleansing everyone huh?

This might be a manual dungeon cuz auto is so unstable.
I used Valentine talis..... they never revived anyone.
Witchdoctor doesn't prevent "perfect" permadeath.

It seems like so much time is spent looking for talismans to trial and error test certain combinations.... while dungeon time ticks away.

I did see that multiple sets of the same talisman count, but at this point I just have them on the ride alongs.

Just my two cents.

Good Luck!

[GrimDusk]

If this dungeon is so difficult, why bother playing it? Other dungeons are easier and give better rewards than this, so this is just a waste of time overall.

[Ydex]

Event frags for character-specific talismans, that's it. FOMO

[Saints_sin]

"Holy Shiznitz Batman.... this one is tougher than it looks!"

I think less experienced players will find this dungeon impossible
This is comparable to an INSANITY level requiring sentinels.

Seriously, the final stage has every GOD of Egypt, and the AI knows to save W. Sekmet until last to give everyone an extra turn w/ critical strike.
It must be Ramesses cleansing everyone huh?

This might be a manual dungeon cuz auto is so unstable.
I used Valentine talis..... they never revived anyone.
Witchdoctor doesn't prevent "perfect" permadeath.

It seems like so much time is spent looking for talismans to trial and error test certain combinations.... while dungeon time ticks away.

I did see that multiple sets of the same talisman count, but at this point I just have them on the ride alongs.

Just my two cents.

Good Luck!



i agree completely also there method for the awakening materials and talismans are terrible not everyone has access to those talis or the resources to buy them meaning they become Pay to win exclusives and i always liked this game for its lack of pay to win

[Bakura]

Considering there is only one difficulty, and it seems like many can't play or win this dungeon, I'm predicting they are going to adjust it according to feedback.
I'm betting facebook is blowing up with complaints.... as usual.
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I didn't get many completions, but when auto did win, this was the best team I used so far.

[Ydex]

It's hard, not impossible. A fully-awakened Horus is necessary.
Go and grind wherever you need to take care of that FIRST, then put him on a team with Ben Breeg and Killer Prime.

[Azagthor]

It's hard, not impossible. A fully-awakened Horus is necessary.
Go and grind wherever you need to take care of that FIRST, then put him on a team with Ben Breeg and Killer Prime.

How are you fully awakening Horus, if you need to do the dungeon challenges to get his awakening material?

[Ydex]

It's hard, not impossible. A fully-awakened Horus is necessary.



How are you fully awakening Horus, if you need to do the dungeon challenges to get his awakening material?

Fully awake, to all purple stars, or "level 10"

"Max" awake would be "level 11" with red stars, and require the final materials.

[Azagthor]

Fully awake, to all purple stars, or "level 10"

"Max" awake would be "level 11" with red stars, and require the final materials.

Ah cool, gotcha.



Feedback-

Pros:

The artwork for the two exclusive cosmic talismans is really nice :)
Glad to see you're continuing to add ways to earn special edition Eddies through long-term goals.
Nice to have a source of blue evolution shards.



Cons:

This is essentially an event, and should have been included in the January Event Calendar.
Time limited cosmics and awakening materials in a dungeon with only one difficulty level. Will be unobtainable for many.
Adds to the feeling given by recent events and the Frozen nerf, that newer/middle players are being left behind. Events feel like they are slowly getting more and more demanding.
Selling the acheivement-required talismans for $14.99 each is actually hilarious. Can't be mad at such a power move.

[Lthepostman]

All right...this is the best one I could get so far on auto:

- Killer Prime (sustain, warlord, sacred)
- FFE (Greed, sacred)
- Horus awaken at lvl 1 (artifact+cosmic echo)
- LOL Max (impulse)

Best time on auto was 2:29 and it seems to work against that final wave, but sometimes I lose at the second wave when the opposite team goes first. They all attack FFE and kill him. Still struggling to find a 100% reliable team :( surely this is not possible with a green anubi on your team xD Another thing I noticed is this dungeon LAGS a lot, and strethces the amount of time required

[Rain88]

Although it's a grind events, it's still great to see an events regarding an existing character instead of introducing countless new characters.

[Yup]

Horus (5 purple stars) (Frontier/Cosmic Freeze)
Pharaoh (Brave)
Max awakened LOL (Cosmic HP/Artifact)
XMas Ghost (Avenger/Cosmic Nightmare/Warp)

[Order helps]

Auto's fine but takes foreeeeeeeeeeeeever.... mainly due to the boss battle and the constant healing and shroud being granted to that enemy team. Roughly 6 min runs.

Using FFE (Greed/Warlord) was faster but the AI targets FFE and he dies too often, With this team the AI targets the Ghost, which is resilient enough to withstand that.

The dungeon sucks... and the event is a clear $$$$$ grab with frags and (rare) cosmics on sale. Because even the achievements are not going to provide enough frags for the Horus awakening materials AND the Horus cosmic. I mean the dungeon doesn't even drop frags.. so you can't even grind for frags there.

There are also no "boss deaths" in this dungeon. Customarily if you kill the "boss" at each wave, the wave ends. Not in this dungeon. I was expecting the ability to kill Mummy/Nomad/Horus and those battle be over. That's not the case here. You *have* to kill every enemy specifically except the last battle, you can kill Ramses there to end that battle.

After yet another update debacle and then launching to see a $$$$ event.. I'm as close as I've ever been to simply deleting the app. Someone remind me again, why is this app worthy of my time? It certainly doesn't *give* players anything but opportunities to spend money.

[Ydex]

The problem is, after I've earned about 1800 of the event fragments, I'll be out of Frontier coins, but I'll still be two keys short of earning the four keys. This was designed with way too tight of tolerances, it's just disrespectful honestly. Unless someone has a way faster team than me, it will take 1500 FC before returning anything. Come on, devs. An event you have to BUY ?? Drop some frags or FC in the dungeon, at LEAST.

[Yup]

Frankly it's all a joke. Clearly they think very, very, little of their userbase.

Or perhaps it's a tactic... make it impossible to get anywhere unless you spend $$$.. then release a "hot fix" which is really a marketing scheme in disguise.

I know I have every character (except gunner xmas ghost) and I have max'ed talismans, including cosmics, and this dungeon is just ridiculous often taking 12-15 minutes PER RUN. Nothing should be that way with all the top end stuff. Then to require sub-standard talisman sets for achievements.. they WANT you to weaken your team and struggle. It's all a Big "FU" to players. Nothing more.

[Ydex]

With 5-minute runs, counting reload time, it still takes 9,000 FC to buy all the keys you'll need. Mind you, we're spending IRONITE too. The dungeon needs to drop, or reward, Frontier Coins, or more keys. Period.

[WastingYears81]

Am I missing something, do I need to purchase a key to see the dungeon during this 'event'? I was expecting to see it in the cosmos with a countdown timer like a normal event dungeon.

[Discordian]

I know I have every character (except gunner xmas ghost) and I have max'ed talismans, including cosmics, and this dungeon is just ridiculous often taking 12-15 minutes PER RUN. Nothing should be that way with all the top end stuff. Then to require sub-standard talisman sets for achievements.. they WANT you to weaken your team and struggle. It's all a Big "FU" to players. Nothing more.

Dude, if you spent half of your "whining on the forums" time popping a key, analyzing each wave of the dungeon, and then using your AWESOME ARMY of toons (much more awesome than mine, clearly!) to build a team with solid synergy then you too could be running the dungeon in less than "12-15 minutes PER RUN".

Imagine the possibilities!

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[Yup]

Go back to kindergarten, kid.

[Saigrim]

Just skip it all guys. I don’t get the mad rush for all this rehashed Powerslave stuff. Special talismans for two characters I never use? Meh! I’m at the point Yup is at. Trying to figure out why I keep playing. I know it’s purely the Maiden fan in me that keeps me going. Thankfully I’m not as “Oh my god! I gotta do all this stuff right now!” as I used to be.

Everyone is going to dump everything into this current event and be mad as hell when the next one, Troopers Respite, comes out with new characters.

[Bakura]

Alvorada's team is "Da Bomb!"
Thanks bro!

100% on Auto!

Best time- 1:36
Avg.- 2:30

BBE- Angel/Sustaining/Cosmic
Horus(lvl. 8)- Angel/Blight/Cosmic
KP- Greed/Warlords
Maclo Bot- Forge/Cosmic

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(I'm using Avengers x2 & Titan x2 on the ride-alongs, Mummy and Pharoah.
I will switch to Purge & Sacrifice later to complete the event goals and long-term achievements.)

[Wanderer]

Mummy Eddie hadn't seen so much action since yeeeears LOL

[Azagthor]

With 5-minute runs, counting reload time, it still takes 9,000 FC to buy all the keys you'll need. Mind you, we're spending IRONITE too. The dungeon needs to drop, or reward, Frontier Coins, or more keys. Period.


800 runs plus all four of the talisman-wearing achievement will get you the 10,000 fragments you need for the 6 awakening shards and both T3 unique Cosmics.

People are starting to find sub 3min teams. If we generously assume 3min runs including reload time, we can get 40 runs per key. That's 20 keys you'd need. Can get 4 from the talisman-acheivements, and 3 for 2M gold each, so only 13 you'll need to spend FC to purchase. Which will put you back 3,250 FC and 6M gold.

For 800 runs, at 15SoT each, that's 12,000SoT, which is 3,000Ironite. You'll be able to do all the regular character-using achievements in those 800 runs, which will refund you 500 ironite. Four talisman souls too, which will get you back 4M gold. Best of luck finding a reliable auto-team that uses the Anubis.

So overall, the theoretically cheapest way to get the three main items is doing the 800 runs, the four talisman-wearing achievements, and the six character-using achievements. Assuming of course you have all the required characters and talismans, and cane make them all work together for sub 3min runs. It will only cost you:


3,250 FC
2,500 Ironite
2M Gold







If you just want a single T1 cosmic, 100 runs will be enough. 150 runs plus at least two of the talisman-wearing achievements will get enough frags for both T1s, or 200 without the achievements. Buying the $30 fragment pack will do the same, without having to open a single key.



EDIT: The above calculations don't account for any dungeons drops. Have been told Talisman Soul Fragments are reasonably common. This may end up completely negating the Gold cost of the keys, or even become gold-positive.

[Esquatcho]

Mummy Eddie hadn't seen so much action since yeeeears LOL

Ha! So true!

[george-2964]

I think I found a team that works and uses the sentinel anubis, and event talis, but admittedly its kinda slow.

Breeg (frontier + ascension cosmic) (in the backseat mummy (avengers/sacrificial), pharaoh (titan/purge)
horus (brave)
S ghost (alchemy + void cosmic)
S anubis (Siege + grail)

Time varies between 3 and 10 mins

[kgk56]

BBE = Impulse + Mummy (Avenger / Sacrificial) + POM (Titan / Purge)
Horus = Eternal
KP = Greed / Warlord
Maclo = Forge / Cosmic

Full auto no loss less than 2mn, best 1:34

[Esquatcho]

Just in case it helps someone, Im cautiously doing OK with this team so far:

KP (Greed/warlord)
Soccer Ed (Serenity/Warlord/Cosmic)
Ghost (Soul/Sustaining)
Maclo (Forge)

[Blade]

800 runs plus all four of the talisman-wearing achievement will get you the 10,000 fragments you need for the 6 awakening shards and both T3 unique Cosmics.

People are starting to find sub 3min teams. If we generously assume 3min runs including reload time, we can get 40 runs per key. That's 20 keys you'd need. Can get 4 from the talisman-acheivements, and 3 for 2M gold each, so only 13 you'll need to spend FC to purchase. Which will put you back 3,250 FC and 6M gold.

For 800 runs, at 15SoT each, that's 12,000SoT, which is 3,000Ironite. You'll be able to do all the regular character-using achievements in those 800 runs, which will refund you 500 ironite. Four talisman souls too, which will get you back 4M gold.

So overall, the cheapest way to get the three main items is doing the 800 runs, the four talisman-wearing achievements, and the six character-using achievement. Assuming of course you have all the required characters and talismans for sub 3min runs. It will only cost you:


3,250 FC
2,500 Ironite
2M Gold




Thanks for putting that together! I don't know if "only" is the right term though, regarding the ironite costs. Also I don't know if it is really worth the struggle, but well, it's something fresh to do.
The dungeon is very hard, I highly doubt that the majority of players can play it on auto. I tried around some teams and failed hard until the team suggestion in the other thread was posted. In the beginning I had KP first and Horus then, which leads to some losses, so be aware. Also the Forge set was important (plus the shield from the robot), as the snipers can one-hit you otherwise. The AI boost is again horrific, getting so many extra turns and cleans all the time plus some regular fury from sekhmet. Set with labs is another nasty move.
Given that high difficulty, a free key to start with would have been a nice thing.

[Natasmai]

BBE = Impulse + Mummy (Avenger / Sacrificial) + POM (Titan / Purge)
Horus = Eternal
KP = Greed / Warlord
Maclo = Forge / Cosmic

Full auto no loss less than 2mn, best 1:34



Hopefully that POM with titan/purge is actually a Pharaoh eddie and not Piece of Mind. There is an achievement for Pharaoh eddie. just a heads up for ya.

[Azagthor]

Thanks for putting that together! I don't know if "only" is the right term though, regarding the ironite costs. Also I don't know if it is really worth the struggle, but well, it's something fresh to do.

Wasn't sure if it was funnier for me to put only in quotation marks or leave them off. "Only" felt a little too on the nose :p

[Volrath]

The difficulty in this dungeon is not consistent. I blazed through it the first two times and then on my third run (with the same team), I just could not keep the guys in the final wave down. Not sure what changed.

[infinite dreamer]

I spent my first key trying to cram sentinel Anubis on an auto team. Only ended up with 11 wins. Definitely have to come up with something better. Thanks to everyone coming up with ideas. That boss wave is tricky.

[singlemaltscot]

BBE = Impulse + Mummy (Avenger / Sacrificial) + POM (Titan / Purge)
Horus = Eternal
KP = Greed / Warlord
Maclo = Forge / Cosmic

Full auto no loss less than 2mn, best 1:34

Only had enough resource awaken Horus to Lvl 6, but cruising with this team on auto. ty

[Ip4]

Why BBE, isn't POME or Fronier Eddie better?

[singlemaltscot]

i'm guessing the talismans are more important. I ran FFE with Brave and it didn't work as well. I didn't try FFE with Impulse...

[Azagthor]

Here is my enemy-talisman infographic if all you want is a quick look at what you'll be fighting.

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If you want a PROPER look, go check out Bakura's incredible guide over here (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13005-Powerslave-Dungeon-Pics-Rewards-Strategy-Teams-Achievements). Amazing work!

[dukat]

This is the first event ever where you have to spend your own resources (Gold or FC) to even participate, let alone win it. This is one step closer to pay-to-win and clearly a step in the wrong direction.

[RTHEddie]

My team is working great, having borrowed ideas from Yup, Lthepostman, & Alvorado:

Breeg - Purge/Sustaining/DM Cosmic (Carry Mummy - Avenger/Sacrificial & POM - Titan/Blight)
KP - Warlord/Sacred/Sustaining
Horus - Artifact/Echo Cosmic
Witch Doctor - Forge/Void Cosmic

I do not have Malco so Witch Doctor seemed like the best idea to wear Forge. My times are running 2:26 to 2:41

[Esquatcho]

Anyone tested the T3 yet? I just bought it and it doesnt appear to be doing what it is supposed to!

I have it equipped to an awakened Horus (which is def above 5 star!) and he isnt giving me perfect health... I sure hope its not meant to be for max awakened only!

Can one of the devs please confirm? Or let me know if I should otherwise raise a bug ticket? Thanks!

[Blade]

Anyone tested the T3 yet? I just bought it and it doesnt appear to be doing what it is supposed to!

I have it equipped to an awakened Horus (which is def above 5 star!) and he isnt giving me perfect health... I sure hope its not meant to be for max awakened only!

Can one of the devs please confirm? Or let me know if I should otherwise raise a bug ticket? Thanks!

Olevipoeg opened a separate thread about this!
I don't have that cosmic yet, but as it is more or less a copy&paste thing from Cyborg, I'd assume it only works for a fully awakened Horus (or a special furyless edition that does not exist...yet?)

[Saigrim]

If you read the Launch Event newsfeed on this forum (Leviathan’s first post) it specifically says a fully awakened Horus. Makes sense, as Cyborg talisman is the same way.

[seneuk]

Thanks. I don't have Maclo too

[seneuk]

My team is working great, having borrowed ideas from Yup, Lthepostman, & Alvorado:

Breeg - Purge/Sustaining/DM Cosmic (Carry Mummy - Avenger/Sacrificial & POM - Titan/Blight)
KP - Warlord/Sacred/Sustaining
Horus - Artifact/Echo Cosmic
Witch Doctor - Forge/Void Cosmic

I do not have Malco so Witch Doctor seemed like the best idea to wear Forge. My times are running 2:26 to 2:41

THanks I don't have Maclo too

But average 1 lost/5 wins

[Azagthor]

Anyone tested the T3 yet? I just bought it and it doesnt appear to be doing what it is supposed to!

I have it equipped to an awakened Horus (which is def above 5 star!) and he isnt giving me perfect health... I sure hope its not meant to be for max awakened only!

Is it just the Perfect Health part, or are all the other parts of its effect not working either?

[Natasmai]

If you read the Launch Event newsfeed on this forum (Leviathan’s first post) it specifically says a fully awakened Horus. Makes sense, as Cyborg talisman is the same way.

The launch event info does indeed say max awakened. However, to no one's surprise, the in game information on the talisman itself and the store where you purchase it both do not refer to a "maxed" Horus at all. Now that in itself wouldnt be enough to confuse me, I would just assume it is the same as a cyborg cosmic, but the fact that they also offer a cosmic specifically for the nomad (who is not an awakenable character at all) puts the finishing touches on the confusion.

To be clear, I would recommend getting the T3 (or whatever you can afford after you are done grinding it out) of each before you get the awakening mats, so regardless the people who bought the Cosmic probably did the right thing, even if it was accidental. But it once again raises the question of whether they are just sloppy and very, very bad at their jobs, or whether they have malicious intentions of purposely confusing people into making incorrect assumptions.

I choose to believe that they are just really, really incompetent human beings.

[Alvorada]

Why BBE, isn't POME or Fronier Eddie better?

I tried FFE, but couldn't find a reliable setup.

BBE provides PI, which helps maclo and KP to get extra turns on final wave.

[Horus-2545]

Will there be a way to get Powerslave awakening shards after the event?

[Beddie]

Will there be a way to get Powerslave awakening shards after the event?
It’s like the Cyborg, Beast, Shinobi and Alchemist frags (will be available in awakening souls after event)

[WickermanBR]

It is being impossible for me to set up a team to autoplay and get the achievements for Ramsess Eddie (that's what interested me most in this new dungeon), so I set up this team and I'm playing manually.

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It has worked well if you are unoccupied to play hours in the manual.

Benjamin Breeg Eddie (Warlord / Energy / Cosmic with Future Passive);
Horus - Tier 7 (Artifact / Cosmic which increases HP, Atk, Magic, Def status);
Anubis (Lycan / Grail);
Killer Prime (Immunity / Warlord / Sustaining) ...
Plus the Pharaoh and Mummy Eddies for the achievements.

My strategy is as follows: I use only the BBE (Vile) Futurr Basic Skill the combination of Warlords, healing and extra turns is powerful; Horus's basic skill, to remove beneficial effects on enemies and load the fury bar (in case the BBE needs to revive someone); Anubis too, I only use the basic skill and; For Killer Prime I use the power skill to remove beneficial effects and the basic skill if I get an extra turn.

in 2 hours playing nonstop an average of 2 minutes per game, I died 9 times, all of them on the second wave, when things get out of control and those freaks get me down with a shot, otherwise I revive everyone with the BBE fury and the victory is guaranteed.

hope to help someone with this and sorry for my english.

[Yup]

These "events" are stupid. They are impossible to complete without massive SOT refills... which cost ironite... which costs $$$...

I challenge everyone to NOT use ironite refills of SOT, then let me know how "good" an event is.

[Ydex]

I've been burning through Ironite for the whole time I've been playing-- about 6 months.

That's not what's wrong with this event. THIS event drains Frontier Coins, and even GOLD --just to play it! eta: though Talisman soul frags do seem to be refilling Gold pretty well

[Yup]

Thing is, it doesn't matter if a 250FC key opens a dungeon for 2 hours, if you burn though the 120 SOT in 15 minutes or less and it takes 8 hrs to get another 120 SOT. Value for cost is really horrible. Honestly, this event may have been the tipping point for me. Clearly they want the $200+ from store items. That's the point.

[Natasmai]

im over 500 runs in and it has cost me less than 1000 ironite

You get 600 ironite from the 4 ramesses achievements alone...

Forcing us to pay FC to even join in on the event is a new low IMO. That is just rude. And this is coming from a guy with over 16,000 FC. I can spend it... but its just rude to think that the only way to get the Cosmics is if you spend 100's of FC.

[Ydex]

It's literally pay to play. Or, pay to pay to play?

[Yup]

You get 600 ironite from the 4 ramesses achievements alone...

Great.. 4 mega-refills.. then what....



Forcing us to pay FC to even join in on the event is a new low IMO. That is just rude. And this is coming from a guy with over 16,000 FC. I can spend it... but its just rude to think that the only way to get the Cosmics is if you spend 100's of FC.

They want you to spend the $40 for the 10 keys.. I believe they specifically set it up so that $40 is a "must" for many players. Add to this that it's only a 4 day event 4 days to get 4000+ frags merely for Horus awakening materials and a Horus cosmic, assuming you have the keys necessary... you CAN'T really do that without spending money in most instances, If you actually want other items, liek the Nomad cosmic.. well.. you may be screwed without direct cash input.... and if you actually have a life the time demand is ludicrous.

It's no secret I've spent my fair share cash on this app, if not more. And I don't fault capitalism, but when things start to appear to me to simply be blatant money-grabs with VERY LITTLE VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR, well.... I mean Horus awakening material plus 8 rare cosmic talismans, plus keys, all for cash, or what amount to cash to run a FC-only dungeon. They COULD have used the evolution event to offer one of those rare cosmics.. but nope.. they give away shit everyone probably already has and then charge for decent things.

I mean really.. how often are users actually using Horus and the Nomad???? really? Seriously.... Is it worth $200 to power up a character you will only use when an achievement requires it?? All that effort for Alchemist awakening materials.. how many are using him fully awakened??? Same for Cosmic Shinobi.... Unless there's a "bug' like The Beast/Lantern thing or a character is WAY overpowered (Moonchild/Dark Lilith), characters just sit for the most part.

The over-exposed money-grab of this event has kind of put a very foul taste in my mouth regarding this app. I've barely launched it since the event went live - mostly clan check in and trooper badges to support others.

[Bakura]

Will there be a way to get Powerslave awakening shards after the event?
I think saw where one of the devs stated that all max awakening shards will drop in Awakening souls.
Lthepostman stated he got 2 Alchemist max awakening materials from like 10 awakening souls.

[edsel]

New best time 54seconds7514

[Ace]

Day one players leaving the legacy garbage. The way how you manage this game is coming to an end. Very soon. And Lilly has a message to you devs. F... you, f... you very, very muuuuuch.

[Ydex]

Excuse me, Devs and Admins?

We're all running timed keys that we can barely afford.
Think you could have announced you were going to do server maintenance?

[Leviathan]

Hello Troopers,

We have just pushed a server update that has reduced the difficulty of the last wave of the new Powerslave Frontier Dungeon.

We have also added 3 free Powerslave Key Souls to the Store that you can claim now. These Key Souls will be available to claim until Jan 20th at 4pm PT.

Get full details here. (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13010-Hot-Fix-January-16th-2020)

[Bakura]

I was getting ready to drop a Pwrslve key, good thing I listened to that inclination to "check the forum."

Also,.... I figured they would eventually adjust the difficulty, alot of players don't have key toons and were giving up on attempting this event.

Thanks devs/Leviathan! Great looking dungeon, and nice to see Horus in action again 👍😉

[Esquatcho]

The launch event info does indeed say max awakened. However, to no one's surprise, the in game information on the talisman itself and the store where you purchase it both do not refer to a "maxed" Horus at all. Now that in itself wouldnt be enough to confuse me, I would just assume it is the same as a cyborg cosmic, but the fact that they also offer a cosmic specifically for the nomad (who is not an awakenable character at all) puts the finishing touches on the confusion.

To be clear, I would recommend getting the T3 (or whatever you can afford after you are done grinding it out) of each before you get the awakening mats, so regardless the people who bought the Cosmic probably did the right thing, even if it was accidental. But it once again raises the question of whether they are just sloppy and very, very bad at their jobs, or whether they have malicious intentions of purposely confusing people into making incorrect assumptions.

I choose to believe that they are just really, really incompetent human beings.

Oh god, I am pretty angry right now. I am years away from awakening horus and was duped into bloody grinding for a talisman! I seriously hope that they can fix the description so others arent duped (if they already arent). omg

[Ydex]

I was getting ready to drop a Pwrslve key, good thing I listened to that inclination to "check the forum."

They posted the communication AFTER the update was pushed.

[Esquatcho]

Leviathan, when it says fully awakened for the cosmic, does that mean max awakened (L11)? Some people refer to fully awakened as level 10...

Also, are you going to do something about the horus talisman description?

[Muzzleloader]

There's a free powerslave key in the store

[Ydex]

The Cosmic Horus Talisman provides an exclusive bonus when equipped to a fully Awakened Horus.

Beside the fact that the in-app description states "5-star Horus," FULLY awakened means TEN stars, all purple. MAX awakened means 11 stars, all red. What a communication fiasco.

______________________

Leviathan, please respond:

Leviathan, when it says fully awakened for the cosmic, does that mean max awakened (L11)? Some people refer to fully awakened as level 10...

Also, are you going to do something about the horus talisman description?

[Esquatcho]

Beside the fact that the in-app description states "5-star Horus," FULLY awakened means TEN stars, all purple. MAX awakened means 11 stars, all red. What a communication fiasco.

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Leviathan, please respond:

Im hopeful that it does actually mean 10 stars! Otherwise, I hope there is some compensation for the ironite wasted!

[Leviathan]

Leviathan, when it says fully awakened for the cosmic, does that mean max awakened (L11)? Some people refer to fully awakened as level 10...

Also, are you going to do something about the horus talisman description?

This Talisman description should now be corrected. And when we say a 'fully awakened' character, we are referring to the Max Awakened state (a Level 11 with red stars). A character is not considered fully awakened if they are level 10 with purple stars, they are simply 'awakened'.

I hope that helps!

[URock]

Bug: I clicked on the 3 free key package and an error window popped up. Restated the game and the package is gone and no keys in my inventory.
WTF?

[Azagthor]

I believe this reflects the update, the only changes are to the boss wave?

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[MuzakMaker]

This Talisman description should now be corrected. And when we say a 'fully awakened' character, we are referring to the Max Awakened state (a Level 11 with red stars). A character is not considered fully awakened if they are level 10 with purple stars, they are simply 'awakened'.

I hope that helps!

What would help is CLEAR, CONCISE, and CONSISTENT communication. All 3 of which you all fail on consistently.

[Bakura]

New updated dungeon is great.
Thanks devs!

Set has no talis.... Ramesses is just Eternal.

It's easy enough we can use S. Anubis... no need for seperate 300 runs at the end just for him!

Best time 0:55
Avg. 1:15

Soccer Ed- Valhalla/Cosmic(Immortality)
Horus- Blight/Mark/ Cosmic
KP- Greed/Warlord
Anubis- Lycan/Cosmic/Green

Lycans grant the whole team Echo, Lifesteal, and Spellvamp.

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I might as well change my signature now, cuz that elusive Ramesses is finally within reach!

[Blade]

Thanks devs for the tuning of that dungeon and the free keys!

I think this was really necessary. These dungeons should be hard, ok, but this was over the top I think. All my teams lost once in a while despite having the top characters, talis and all relics. Can''t imagine how demotivating this was (and mybe still is) for new(er) players.
Now it looks like players with a good inventory and relics can use all needed characters for the achievements at once and still go without losses, which should always be possible in my optinion.

[MuzakMaker]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is yet again we have another key added to the game that looks near identical to another. To all my other colour blind players: it's now becoming more clear that they do not care about colour blindness.

I'm lucky I'm not as severe as a coworker who I showed the keys to. He couldn't tell apart Powerslave, Mayan, Frozen wasteland or Raven Witch keys.

They've already made different designs for the keys, why aren't they being used in the book of souls?

[Saigrim]

Initial event posts concerning resource costs were greatly exaggerated I’d have to say. After ignoring the first two days I decided to give it a run. I started with 9015 Ironite and the three keys one could purchase with gold. Obtained another seven keys through event and the free keys from the store. Also, I went ahead and purchased one fragment pack. All said and done, I ended up with a Maxed Horus, both T3 Cosmics, and even finished the Maxed Horus Achievement. Didn’t worry about the Anubis as I already had Ramses, and wanted to blast through as many runs as possible per key. Total Ironite today is 8640. Not a bad run.

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Thanks to all you guys who lay the groundwork for a viable team. It is greatly appreciated from this here fellow.

[Azagthor]

Initial event posts concerning resource costs were greatly exaggerated I’d have to say.

Thanks to all you guys who lay the groundwork for a viable team. It is greatly appreciated from this here fellow.

Glad my initial numbers were off, and people have been able to find more and more efficient teams for this dungeons!

I'm on track to get my 150 wins, with two of the talisman-wearing achievements, which will let me get both T1s. The 'nerfed' dungeon is still fairly tricky, but at least it is doable for me now. Can't get Annubis to work, but can hit in all the other achievement characters, and manage a 2-3min time. Not 100% safe though, Horus loves stealing the fury from Football Eddie which occasionally means the Desert Sniper in the 2nd wave gets to keep his Shroud and can cause some real trouble.

I've been told Blights can be found in one of the Eternity dungeons? Probably too late for me to go get a set, but will probably have to go look into that sometime soon.

[Ydex]

In the Wrath dungeon, Blights drop quite a lot.

[Muzzleloader]

Azagthor, you may try putting immortality cosmic on soccer ed, angel on horus. Sacred on anubis. I dont have ghost but I would use it over KP.

On the second wave anubis may die but can be revived. Angel on horus will keep him awake, onslaught would be better for the hp.

[Azagthor]

On the second wave anubis may die but can be revived.

All the times my Onyx Son died (6/175 runs), he couldn't be revived. Must be due to the Desert Warrior's power move inflicting permadeath.

I played around with my team a bit more, tried out Lanterns on Horus. Cut about 20s off my runs on average, as they worked well with the Warlords on KP. Ended up doing 175 runs over five keys. Might as well push that out to 200 tomorrow... still need two more Eternal talismans for a full set!

[Maiden]

I've got 4k of fragments after doing all the specifics talisman challenges. I´m not really interested in keep farming this one, Awaken Horus is far away of being my priority... I still got to finish Sentinel, Assa and Gunner Lol to get that Lilith and also awaken her...

So... 4k fragments.. best deal I can picture is t2 for Horus and t2 for The Nomad... yea I can´t really use that talisman for Horus until fully awaken him, btw frags for awakening Horus will drop from A souls, therefore, no need to purchase them right now...

Thoughts? Am I missing something before purchasing those talis?

[Muzzleloader]

Agazthor, what team are use using? Ghost may be better than KP. Does your Horus ever get stunned. I put angel on him so he would cleanse. Him not being stunned can help in the last wave by clearing enemy buffs.

I used, horus, soccer ed, anubis, maclo. Sacred/penance/sustain on anubis worked.

[Azagthor]

Agazthor, what team are use using? Ghost may be better than KP. Does your Horus ever get stunned. I put angel on him so he would cleanse. Him not being stunned can help in the last wave by clearing enemy buffs.

I used, horus, soccer ed, anubis, maclo. Sacred/penance/sustain on anubis worked.

I'm using:

Football - Valhalla
Onyx Son - Celestials
KP - Warlord & Grail
Horus 6* - Shell & Lanterns
All have high hp& damage cosmics, but I don't have most of the talismans sets mentioned here, or any good green ones at all really.


I've got the Ghost, but I don't have Maclo or Witch Doctor to use Forges, so I've been using KP for permadeath. Doesn't help with the 3rd wave, only Perfect Death works there. The Onyx Son keeps me alive for at least the first round in Wave 2, removes buffs, and he can hit surprisingly hard, especially after Football's Ascension-giving fury. I've been tempted to try out Ghost with Annubis, but with my lack of Echo cosmics for Horus, I would be sacrificing too much AOE damage.

I don't remember seeing Horus getting stunned, there are plenty of debuffs being thrown around in there, but the most annoying one is probably the Blind in the wave 4.

Didn't know the Eternity dungeons dropped so many good talismans, the Compendium hasn't been updated to include that info yet. Will probably make a start on those during the next lull between events.

[Bakura]

@Azagthor

The S. Ghost w/ Alchemy was essential to cleaning Blind, plus he strengthened defense against Nomad and company, mainly cuz Invincibility from Alchs..
Something else he had caused my Anubis to take no damage at times. Plus, I think he granted healing buffs. (Not sure, alot of buffs going on from multiple toons/talis.)
KP was nice, but for guaranteed survival, I switched him out for Ghost.
If you have an Immortality cosmic, put it on Ed, keep him alive and his Valhallas will revive the others.
Put them in order of Horus (to remove buffs) then Ed, then Ghost, lastly Anubis.
This should do it for 99% win rate, in a timely manner.

If you have them, Sustain/Cosmic/ Mark work great on Horus.

Good Luck... and "May the Schwartz be with You!"
(Spaceballs reference)

[Azagthor]

@Azagthor

The S. Ghost w/ Alchemy was essential to cleaning Blind, plus he strengthened defense against Nomad and company, mainly cuz Invincibility from Alchs..
Something else he had caused my Anubis to take no damage at times.
KP was nice, but for guaranteed survival, I switched him out for Ghost.
If you have an Immortality cosmic, put it on Ed, keep him alive and his Valhallas will revive the others.
Put them in order of Horus (to remove buffs) then Ed, then Ghost, lastly Anubis.
This should do it for 99% win rate, in a timely manner.


I gave that a go, but it didn't work for me. Was giving me 3:30-4min runs. I probably don't have the relics or the talismans to make it work properly. Not a problem though, can always re-run the dungeon with Anubis in the future. Thanks for all the suggestions folks :)

[scott-5496]

It has gone 100% defeat free now for me as soon as I took out Horus and put in Anubis for the final runs to get that achievement. I did end up getting my second Pharaoh Ramses but that is fine.

Running with

FFE
MACLO
KP
Anubis

Still sitting at an OK 1 min 30 ish average with that team and no defeats over last couple of keys since Horus came out and MACLO and Anubis went back in.

[Blade]

I kicked KP out to get the achievements done with 100% win rate:

Footy (Valhalla+immortality cosmic to be really sure)
Horus (Angel against stun, Blight+cosmic)
MACLO (Forge+cosmic)
Anubis (Redemption+guard for extra fury)

Fastest 1:02, slowest up to 3 mins if you have bad luck, e.g. maclo getting many extra turns while final boss still has invisibility.

Now I swapped KP back in for Anubis, but it is not much faster, although KP can remove invisibility from the boss due to greed/warlord combo. Still the AI is extremely stupid at times and tries to do everything to make your run slow. Also they attack in a strange order sometimes, also leading to a longer run time. All this reduced the runs per key to some ~48 for me, so that I had to change things after 2 runs of a fresh key. 50+ would have been the goal to match the event and achievement demands nicely.
Now I try to get enough frags for the cosmics and awakening materials. Pity that the event runs out soon already, one day more would have been appreciated!

@devs: I have a question about the key:
Does the key for that dungeon move to the frontier shop and will the price stay the same as it is now? I remember there was some confusion a while ago concerning the trooper dungeon key related to the key costs. Thanks!

[Beddie]

Yeah the key’s gonna be in the Frontier shop

[Blade]

Yeah the key’s gonna be in the Frontier shop

This info is not in the opening post, just like the future price. Or did I miss the info somewhere, where did you get it from? It would be logic, yes, but there have always been surprises...
Because of earlier confusion, it's better to ask :)

[Muzzleloader]

Blade, about the number of runs. Using the same team without chances. I had 56, 63, and 69 wins all without a loss. I can't see why the big difference except maybe due to time played which may have caused slowdowns.

[Blade]

It's a lot of rng with the order of attacks and which team goes first. Should all even out over time I think. Don't know about the runs yesterday as I had friends over so I just ran key after key, but without looking at the rewards or event counters.
In total I have 8260 frags now. I could not play much on friday and sunday, thursday was still a bit complicated as I did not have the right team for 100% autoplay yet. I tried to catch up on saturday and especially yesterday with 5 keys. Given that, it is a bit disappointing that these weren't enough runs to ge the 10k frags. I could buy a pack with cash, but won't do it.

I think I should go for the horus T3 (3.5k), 6 awakening mats (3k) and the nomad T1 (1k) = 7.5k. Or what would be your suggestion? It is interesting to see that the character frag event that just started brings back the cyborg cosmic. So can we expect to see nomad/horus cosmics also come back that quickly?

[scott-5496]

Pretty sure they will have to come back at some point - newer players wont be able to do these events but may have a Cyborg so over time they need to be able to get one too and will do when they can and have the roster - over time all things will be for sale or in an event like this I think.

[Blade]

Blade, about the number of runs. Using the same team without chances. I had 56, 63, and 69 wins all without a loss. I can't see why the big difference except maybe due to time played which may have caused slowdowns.

I just saw that I have 246 runs with ramesses. Had to do 3 or so with anubi, claim the souls, open it and put ramesses in the team, switch anubi out for KP and change maclo and KP's order. So this might have costed 1 or 2 runs ;) Still I hope I can do the missing 54 runs with only one key sometimes soon!


Pretty sure they will have to come back at some point - newer players wont be able to do these events but may have a Cyborg so over time they need to be able to get one too and will do when they can and have the roster - over time all things will be for sale or in an event like this I think.

Makes sense, yes! So I though about not buying the nomand T1 and instead wait until this cosmic shows up again to get the T3. On the other hand what to do with the left over frags? I just got the horus T3 and the awakening materials. This time we need to upgrade and evolve the character-spefic cosmic, I think this was different for cyborg!

[Yup]

Cyborg was the same.. specific cosmic AND specific awakening materials.

[Natasmai]

I just saw that I have 246 runs with ramesses. Had to do 3 or so with anubi, claim the souls, open it and put ramesses in the team, switch anubi out for KP and change maclo and KP's order. So this might have costed 1 or 2 runs ;) Still I hope I can do the missing 54 runs with only one key sometimes soon!



Makes sense, yes! So I though about not buying the nomand T1 and instead wait until this cosmic shows up again to get the T3. On the other hand what to do with the left over frags? I just got the horus T3 and the awakening materials. This time we need to upgrade and evolve the character-spefic cosmic, I think this was different for cyborg!

It is too late now, but I would have suggested buying both T3 and then whatever you could do on the awakening mats after. The awakening mats will show up in Awakening souls as soon as next week i suspect. it wouldnt take long to get the mats that way, the T3 will cost much more (as we can see with the cyborg here) and be maybe 2-3 months out.

Just my 0.02, but I suspect this is the best way to approach all of these events in the future.

[Blade]

Cyborg was the same.. specific cosmic AND specific awakening materials.

I thought that the Cyborg cosmic was already evolved and we just needed to level it to max. But I might be wrong.


It is too late now, but I would have suggested buying both T3 and then whatever you could do on the awakening mats after. The awakening mats will show up in Awakening souls as soon as next week i suspect. it wouldnt take long to get the mats that way, the T3 will cost much more (as we can see with the cyborg here) and be maybe 2-3 months out.

Just my 0.02, but I suspect this is the best way to approach all of these events in the future.

Indeed I should have waited a bit longer for your replies, but was afraid to miss the countdown timer. Maybe I did the wrong decision, but wanted to have the materials ready to fully awaken Horus if some event forces me to do so.
Yes, the awakening mats will show up in the souls at some point. But the pool of items grows and the drop rates are very low. I have other priorities though, as I have only 1 awakened LoL so far and need to go the long long way to get Dark Lilith (and maybe Lucy). I just never used the Nomad yet! When he was good, I did not have him. And as soon as I got him, he was "useless". Mine is not even sharded yet :D Sure the cosmic makes him better, but I still think horus is much better. Now I wonder if I take the Nomad T1 or wait until they show up again. Do you guys now what happens if you claim a powerslave soul from the frags? A 1* gold idol is shown, but is that all?

[Yup]

I thought that the Cyborg cosmic was already evolved and we just needed to level it to max. But I might be wrong.



Actually, I think you're right.. I had forgotten about that aspect. Cyborg's cosmic was purchased as a level 1 3 star.. just needed to level it to 20. Whereas the Nomad/Horus T3s are 1 stars and have to be leveled and evolved.

[Blade]

FYI:
- the powerslave dungeon key is in the frontier shop, same prize as during the event. No bad surprise this time!
- if you claim a soul and open it, it costs 50k and gives 1x 1* gold idle (selling price 50k) and the 200 frags back. Perfect cycle.

I decided to take the T1 Nomand cosmic. Better than nothing or the few precious frags.
Now I run one last key in the powerslave dungeon to finish the 300 ramesses runs. After that I can finally get the tallis back to other characters.

Concluding remark:
In general it was a nice idea to have an event to introduce a new permanent dungeon. Personally, I don't like these 2 hour dungeons (or even longer), I'd prefer 1 hour for more flexibility to use the phone for phone stuff. Difficulty was very high in the beginning, the tuning of the nasty last wave was highly appreciated. At least one free key to start with to have time to get to know the dungeon and to work on strategies would have been really cool. Maybe let this very first key just run for 1 hour or so if you are very stingy. The reward system was great with all the smaller steps. Event duration was a bit short for me. I tried to get the 10k frags and used almost all free time (in a rather busy weekend), but could not reach it although I wanted to spend the ironite for hitting the 10k. One (or two) days more would not hurt anyone.
A big thanks to the community - again a great work and many helping players to find good strategies for that dungeon!

[Beddie]

Yeah glad to see people getting Ramesses

[Blade]

Yeah glad to see people getting Ramesses

You're the master of 1-line comments :)

Yeah it's nice to have the next Ed for the collection. So we see a Tour, Ed-Hunter, Fawk, Lone Star and Sirius dungeon aswell? ;)

BTW the powerslave key brought me to 297/300 runs with Ramesses! Nooooo! So again only 51 runs with that key, damn!

[Beddie]

You're the master of 1-line comments
Thanks for that

[Natasmai]

FYI:
- the powerslave dungeon key is in the frontier shop, same prize as during the event. No bad surprise this time!
- if you claim a soul and open it, it costs 50k and gives 1x 1* gold idle (selling price 50k) and the 200 frags back. Perfect cycle.

I decided to take the T1 Nomand cosmic. Better than nothing or the few precious frags.
Now I run one last key in the powerslave dungeon to finish the 300 ramesses runs. After that I can finally get the tallis back to other characters.

Concluding remark:
In general it was a nice idea to have an event to introduce a new permanent dungeon. Personally, I don't like these 2 hour dungeons (or even longer), I'd prefer 1 hour for more flexibility to use the phone for phone stuff. Difficulty was very high in the beginning, the tuning of the nasty last wave was highly appreciated. At least one free key to start with to have time to get to know the dungeon and to work on strategies would have been really cool. Maybe let this very first key just run for 1 hour or so if you are very stingy. The reward system was great with all the smaller steps. Event duration was a bit short for me. I tried to get the 10k frags and used almost all free time (in a rather busy weekend), but could not reach it although I wanted to spend the ironite for hitting the 10k. One (or two) days more would not hurt anyone.
A big thanks to the community - again a great work and many helping players to find good strategies for that dungeon!

Technically, keep in mind it costs 100 gold to create the soul, so every time you do the loop you are losing 100 gold.

Also, from my perspective (similar to what Discordian posted earlier) I was kind of pissed off about the retuning. Not only did we spend lots of time and resources fine tuning a team to clear it in a reasonable time, but the retuning actually hurt my times causing me to redo the work I already did so I could fine tune it back to the time I already had worked out.

I can understand tuning it down so more people have access to the event, but like Disco said... Do the work BEFORE you release the event. Next, I would rather see the event be a bit hard, a bit challenging... then a few weeks later, release a detuning patch to make it easier for regular farming. This is how the Labyrinth Dungeon was handled. Was I a bit upset that I put in the effort to completely clear all the challenges and then have the dungeon nerfed hard? sure, but I made that choice knowing it was likely to happen and I enjoyed the frustration of figuring out the puzzle. Now, the Labyrinth dungeon is a key farming location so I completely understand the nerf. Same with the Powerslave dungeon, but I think it could have been handled better.

[Azagthor]

Concluding remark:
In general it was a nice idea to have an event to introduce a new permanent dungeon.
The reward system was great with all the smaller steps. Event duration was a bit short for me.
Was nice having an event for this, but please include them in the Event Calendar in the future, so we can better plan how to spend our ironite and time. Duration certainly felt a bit short too, especially for the character-exclusive cosmic rewards.

The reward system was really cool, with clear milestones and multiple small goals to reach. With every 10 runs giving something, it felt doable, and you were constantly rewarded for every bit of extra effort you put in, with larger payouts every 25, 50, and 100 runs. Contrast that with the current character fragment event, where the two fragments challenges are for 250 and 2,500 fragments. It's a huge jump between the two, and you have to fully commit without knowing you'll be able to make it. The Powerslave system encouraged you to keep going with guaranteed rewards and pacing. Was still a long grind for people who wanted to get everything, but there were plenty of rewards for everyone and multiple drop-out points, and encouragements to continue. Not sure how difficult it was to set up and balance, but hopefully we'll see more of it in the future!


Technically, keep in mind it costs 100 gold to create the soul, so every time you do the loop you are losing 100 gold.
Probably not worth it, but if you're close to one of those "Claim X Souls from Fragments" achievements, and you absolutely can't wait...



Also, from my perspective (similar to what Discordian posted earlier) I was kind of pissed off about the re-tuning. Not only did we spend lots of time and resources fine tuning a team to clear it in a reasonable time, but the retuning actually hurt my times causing me to redo the work I already did so I could fine tune it back to the time I already had worked out.

I can understand tuning it down so more people have access to the event, but like Disco said... Do the work BEFORE you release the event. Next, I would rather see the event be a bit hard, a bit challenging... then a few weeks later, release a detuning patch to make it easier for regular farming. This is how the Labyrinth Dungeon was handled. Was I a bit upset that I put in the effort to completely clear all the challenges and then have the dungeon nerfed hard? sure, but I made that choice knowing it was likely to happen and I enjoyed the frustration of figuring out the puzzle. Now, the Labyrinth dungeon is a key farming location so I completely understand the nerf. Same with the Powerslave dungeon, but I think it could have been handled better.
You know I love you both, and I wouldn't be able to do half the things I now can in this game without the patient advice you've both offered me and many others. If we didn't have people like you able to solve those initial near-impossible pre-nerf puzzles, what hope would the rest of us have?

It is a tricky problem though, and despite being someone who would not have been able to beat the dungeon before the nerf, I understand where you're coming from. If our places were swapped, and I'd spent a lot of time and resources only to have everything change a couple of days later, I'd be somewhat put out too. The challenge wasn't broken, it was just aimed at the 1%. But when so many people were struggling, the devs are put in the position of deciding who they want to upset, and the option that allows them to sell ironite to the highest number of people will often win. It is a little concerning how often this happens though, with dungeons (both frontier and event) requiring nerfing only a couple of days after launch. Not quite sure how they test these dungeons, or if they're able to see what percentages of players have access to the various teams needed to beat those pre-nerf versions? When nerfs are needed though, as opposed to reducing the difficulty weeks/months later to aid farming, the sooner the better. Wait too long, and there will be more players in your situation, and less time for everyone else to catch up in time-limited events.

Perhaps if there were two difficulty levels in the dungeon, or if it wasn't tied to a short event with character-exclusive rewards, or the long awaited source of blue 3* evo shard, this may not have been such a problem? Blade's suggestion of offering an introductory "free key" with the launch of each new frontier dungeon is another good suggestion. Allowing players to more accurately gauge the level of difficulty and make informed decisions before having to spend resources on keys is always good thing. Would need a significant UI overhaul, but having a way to look into each dungeon, and only using a key when you start the first battle could achieve this?

[Natasmai]

I remember when i was in your position and being "annoyed" at all the 1% who always said how easy the stuff was or whatever. I wanted to be sure that when i got into the 1% I wouldnt forget how hard it is for the rest. I try to post alternative options when I suggest teams or talisman that are harder to get. Still, I find myself losing touch with the struggling lower players. I was irritated with the "randomness" of the sacred talisman on the final wave* adding tons of time to some runs and not others. Otherwise, I didnt think this was a difficult dungeon and it never occured to me that anyone was really struggling with even clearing it. Honestly, while I figured it would eventually get a detune for farming purposes, I was truly shocked that they released an emergency nerf patch.

SO I guess I have officially lost touch... sorry guys. I'll continue to try to suggest "easier access" options for teams when I can and keep in mind how huge the power gap really is between the haves and have-nots.


*Sacred Talisman need a SERIOUS rework. They are insanely powerful for a 2 set, they have WAY too many options for what they trigger, and on top of that none of the options are actually listed or described in anyway. This is EXACTLY the perfect example of complete shit communication that we players hate and desperately want to be corrected. There NEEDS to be better descriptions of abilities and effects in this game. For instance... Did anyone know that one of Sacred's options is a direct heal of an unknown amount to a random ally? That is how Moonchild is getting random heals when he clearly shouldnt.

[Bobby2613-8511]

SO I guess I have officially lost touch... sorry guys. I'll continue to try to suggest "easier access" options for teams when I can and keep in mind how huge the power gap really is between the haves and have-nots.


I don't write often but I read the forums everyday. All I can say is many of you guys (and I don't want to name everyone cause I'd fear to forget some) are very, very helpful. You help us understand things and always give helpful advice. But I think one thing that might help the "disconnect" is the relics. If I'm not mistaken having all relics give you +180% Health, +120% Attack/Magic, +80% Def/MR and +65% Fury. This is easily forgettable and even though the player might have all the right characters/talismans being under par for those relics can make a world of difference between "easy" and "crazy". For me, these are the tougher thing to get cause you can get IC almost only by playing PvP which isn't the priority when you start playing this game. Well, only my 2 cents and again, thank you all for being the ones showing us the right path. :)