Question for the devs about new Clover talisman interaction

[Brickster]

Dear devs,


I'm wondering how the new Clover Talisman effect (+25% accuracy) works against Bounty Hunter Eddie's passive effect which lowers accuracy of all enemies by 75% (unless it's already 100%).

For example:
Does an ability with a 80% chance effect increase to 105% and then gets decreased by 75% to an effective 26% (rounded) chance?
Or
Does an ability with a 80% chance effect increase to 100% (can't go over 100) and then gets decreased by 75% to an effective 25% (rounded) chance?
Or
Does an ability with a 80% chance effect first decrease by 75% to 20% and then increase by 25% to 45%?

The difference between the first two obviously doesn't really matter that much in terms of gameplay, but I'm wondering out of curiosity.
The third option does differ a lot from the first two options though. Especially on very high or low base chances.


Thanks for the update and thanks in advance for your reply.

[Saints_sin]

intresting thought process tbh

[Durandal_LOTB]

To my understanding, this type of modifier functions in an additive way rather than in a multiplicative manner.

To use your example for explanation,

Let's say your ability has an 80% chance to do an effect:

Clover Talismans will boost it to 105%(80+25%) followed by Bounty Hunter Eddie reducing it to 30% (105-75%). Add or subtract any positive or negative effects, and you'll get your final total.

[Saints_sin]

To my understanding, this type of modifier functions in an additive way rather than in a multiplicative manner.

To use your example for explanation,

Let's say your ability has an 80% chance to do an effect:

Clover Talismans will boost it to 105%(80+25%) followed by Bounty Hunter Eddie reducing it to 30% (105-75%). Add or subtract any positive or negative effects, and you'll get your final total.
useful to know will there be a compensation pack for clans who have lost runs due to odin freezing

[Durandal_LOTB]

useful to know will there be a compensation pack for clans who have lost runs due to odin freezing

A premium segue, Saint. I don't believe I can officially announce anything at this time since we are still working on a solution. However, once improvements are made, released, and are confirmed to be successful, we can then review what the next best options are.

[Saints_sin]

useful to know been done out of 12 and stopped doing any more this week cause its not worth the freezing might try again after reset

[ShadowedLies]

Any word on getting raid rewards. Second time I've seen the popup but gotten no rewards.

[Natasmai]

To my understanding, this type of modifier functions in an additive way rather than in a multiplicative manner.

To use your example for explanation,

Let's say your ability has an 80% chance to do an effect:

Clover Talismans will boost it to 105%(80+25%) followed by Bounty Hunter Eddie reducing it to 30% (105-75%). Add or subtract any positive or negative effects, and you'll get your final total.

That brings up a second question. If it is 80+25=105 then apply BHE effect... wouldn't the accuracy stay at 105% because BHE doesn't affect any ability which is at 100%?

[Durandal_LOTB]

That brings up a second question. If it is 80+25=105 then apply BHE effect... wouldn't the accuracy stay at 105% because BHE doesn't affect any ability which is at 100%?

To my understanding BHE's "100%" text is really just referring to abilities with guaranteed effects such as "Inflict 2 Physical Burns on all enemies." Abilities written like this will not suddenly be reduced to 25% in this case. It should be triggering as long as the base percentage value of the ability is less than 100%.

[Brickster]

To my understanding, this type of modifier functions in an additive way rather than in a multiplicative manner.

To use your example for explanation,

Let's say your ability has an 80% chance to do an effect:

Clover Talismans will boost it to 105%(80+25%) followed by Bounty Hunter Eddie reducing it to 30% (105-75%). Add or subtract any positive or negative effects, and you'll get your final total.

Thank you for replying!

[Esquatcho]

To my understanding BHE's "100%" text is really just referring to abilities with guaranteed effects such as "Inflict 2 Physical Burns on all enemies." Abilities written like this will not suddenly be reduced to 25% in this case. It should be triggering as long as the base percentage value of the ability is less than 100%.

Yeah, thanks for taking the time to clarify good questions like these!