PvP is not worth playing anymore.

[DynamoJaeger]

If you have all relics, there is no reason to continue playing. Especially since they added ridiculous talismans to make characters literally unkillable (i just encountered a sentinel banshee which would just full heal when I gave her the killing blow and cleanse every heal block effect I casted no matter what) and op characters that recquire a specific character or a specific set of talismans to at least attempt to do something. The fact that you have to awaken characters to counter specific talisman sets like Labyrinth doesn't help at all.

Worst part is, you are forced to play PvP in order to get certain event achievements.

If gauntlet and dungeons had way less restrictive rules, it would be the only reason to keep me playing constantly. But, right now, I only connect daily just to farm trooper badges and dungeons whenever I can.

[Fudjo]

I like watching Iron Maiden monsters beat each other up.

[Yup]

Anymore??? It's never changed.

When PvP was introduced.. if you didn't have Vampire Hunter Eddie and Immortality talismans there was no way you could climb the ranks. None of that has changed, it's just different characters and talismans now. Same as it ever was.

[Muzzleloader]

The ironite from rewards are worth it. If you have all relics and such you can save to buy dupes of wrathchild and moony. Reaching 4000 pts isnt that difficult for 300 ironite.

[MuzakMaker]

The Ironite is worth and if you're one of the few (well I guess right now many) who have the time to devote the skill-less grind for Top 3 which nets you talisman sets that aren't available elsewhere. The ironite is pretty nice too but once you reach a certain spot you can easily maintain getting 200 a week with only the 1 attack a day for daily achievements.

Extra Iron Coins are also nice when we get those stupid spend resources events.

[DynamoJaeger]

The ironite from rewards are worth it. If you have all relics and such you can save to buy dupes of wrathchild and moony. Reaching 4000 pts isnt that difficult for 300 ironite.

I get like 150-200 ironite each week for being at 2700-like rank every week. I sometimes derank on purpose to get to easier battles to get the achievements.

But playing PvP seriously sucks.

[Muzzleloader]

Not many think the arena is fun. Even the top ranked players winning every battle after 1000 battles it gets old. Some want the bragging rights of ending on the podium. I was going for the podium this week, but the arena has become virtually unplayable while the rest of the game is slow, excluding the Odin battles.

[Yup]

Also be aware the talismans from the souls basically means you get the talismans a week or two before everyone else can get them. It's not like they are exclusive to the arena top 3. Yeah that advance access can help if it's a good talismans set... for a week or two, but that's it.

Most of the time arena runs are pointless unless you find some crack in the current meta no one else is aware of yet. Like running LAD initially before everyone had him.. or using a Banshee with it's cosmic before everyone figured out the right talisman combos for her.

[RTHEddie]

I was able to get LAD a couple weeks ago and I've toyed with him here and there but he was almost quickly forgotten when I earned Thor and haven't really had a chance to get back to him. To Yup & Muzzle, are you guys seeing LAD often at top arena? I've read in different places that he is an arena force or has he since been uncomplicated?

[Muzzleloader]

He is every where at the top! Hes the flavor of the day with a ride along banshee.

[Yup]

RTH he's the ONLY Eddie at the top -- Thor would be mixed in if LAD's fury had some sort of counter/cleanse/block.. but there isn't one. The week before LAD was out, Thor was becoming king taking out all the Max Cyborg teams. I made it to #1 with Thor... and then #2 with LAD the following week (#1 that week was also LAD)

Every single LAD battle is seriously 4 fury triggers or less. No more 10 minutes waiting for Moonchild with Labyrinth/Vampire to die.

[Saints_sin]

yeah its seriously annoying i dont want to be that guy but does anyone else think that lad needs a nerf in the form of changing a talisman slot so he cant run midguards cause thats the problem with him

[MuzakMaker]

Midgards aren't nearly as much of an issue as the fact that generating fury in arena is a freaking joke with the streak bugs

[Yup]

I agree it's not necessarily the Midguards that's the issue. The issue is that LADs fury has no counter or block and can't be cleansed. THAT is what need to change.. but I suspect the next OP character/talisman set will do just that.

[Maiden]

Yep despite the fact that his fury is just click-and-die, LAD with Midgards is really really weak, there is no need to nerf... the bug lies with Banshee talisman... if she were working as is supposed to we wouldn´t have such a problem with LAD.

[Ip4]

with all high end characters i don't have will to play any battle,yesterday i awaken new cosmic lilith to max and that's it...also stoped playing boring skull quests...

[Muzzleloader]

If you want to quit playing skull quest, I hope they give somene else the ironite you diont want.