Odin, the Awakenable Mystery

[GrimDusk]

So, in the chaos that has been going around the servers recently, a detail has seemingly been omitted from the Forge of Destiny Event description in it's entirety: though all the Odins have the same skills, they are Awakenable. We do not know what all of the Odins will be like each fully Awakened, since we only have access to four of them at the moment.

With this in mind, some players have gotten their hands on Odin and Awakened him. This thread is to essentially point out what changes in each Odin as he is awakened.

EDIT: The final Odins have been released, so all of the stats are now here. I need to address that I was wrong with advertising one thing with all of the Odins: none of them have All Father as a passive until max awakening. Only Cosmic Odin gets that passive, and only at Full Awakening. Odin has no passive until max awakening, like most characters with a fury who become awakenable. I don't know yet which Odin is the best choice, but they all seem to have different focuses.

(Initial stats are taken from the Compendium)

(thank you to Chrismt for the Warrior Odin stats)

Warrior Odin

Talisman Slots: 3 red, 3 blank

HP: 9,697 –> 12,172
ATK: 876 –> 2,064
DEF: 456 –> 852
MAGIC: 876 (remains the same)
MR: 456 –> 555
SPECIAL: 428 –> 527

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

Father of Men: The first attack against each ally misses every turn. Transform all negative effects on each ally into a random shield. Grant immunity to blind, silence, and seal including innate effects, but not including passive disable, to all allies until they die. This passive can only be disabled at the start of battle.

(thank you to hugoW for finding me the Magus Odin changes)

Magus Odin

Talisman Slots: 3 blue, 3 blank

HP: 9,697 –> 10,687
ATK: 876 (stays the same)
DEF: 456 –> 555
MAGIC: 876 –> 2,163
MR: 456 –> 852
SPECIAL: 428 –> 626

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

Lord of the Aesir: 35% chance to inflict sleep on all enemies for 1 turn when you take damage. Inflict Doom on any enemy inflicted with freeze for 1 turn. Grant immunity to all negative effects, not including innate effects, for 3 turns at the start of battle. This passive can only be disabled at the start of battle.

Sentinel Odin:

Talisman slots: 3 green, 3 blank

HP: 9,697 –> 16,627
ATK: 876 –>975
DEF: 456 –> 753
MAGIC: 876 –> 975
MR: 456 –> 753
SPECIAL: 428 –> 626

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

The Wise Tree: Remove negative effects, including Silver Effects, and gain Perfect Immunity and Golden Hit for 2 turns at the start of your turn and after each action. Lower the DEF and MR of all enemies every turn. Grant Armor and Magic Pen to all allies every turn. Revive all allies upon death, but not self, and grant them Soul Protect and Shroud for the duration of battle.

Gunner Odin:

Talisman slots: 3 yellow, 3 blank

HP: 9,697 –> 13,657
ATK: 876 –> 1,074
DEF: 456 –> 555
MAGIC: 876 –> 1,074
MR: 456 –> 555
SPECIAL: 428 –> 725

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

Raven God: Inflict Stun or Perfect Stun on up to 4 random enemies at the start of battle for 1 turn. Grant Regen, Heal Amp, Spell Vamp, and Lifesteal to each ally at the start of battle for the duration of battle. Generate 1 Power and 20% fury for each ally alive at the start of your turn. Transform Immortality and Perfect Immortality into Permadeath and Perfect Death, respectively, on each enemy and Revive a random ally for each instance transformed.

Assassin Odin:

Talisman slots: 3 purple, 3 blank

HP: 9,697 –> 12,172
ATK: 876 –> 1,371
DEF: 456 –> 555
MAGIC: 876 –> 1,371
MR: 456 –> 555
SPECIAL: 428 –> 527

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

Foe of the Wolf: 50% Chance to counter attack. Deal additional random damage based on your MISSING HP every action. Heal for 50% of the damage you deal every action. Remove Negative Effects, including Silver, Heal all allies, but not self, based on your MISSING HP every action. Taunt all enemies for 2 turns, and gain Perfect Vanish for the duration of battle when your HP reaches 1 hp.

Cosmic Odin:

HP: 9,697 –> 11,182
ATK: 876 –> 1,272
DEF: 456 –> 654
MAGIC: 876 –> 1,272
MR: 456 –> 654
SPECIAL: 428 –> 626
Talisman slots: 6 blank

Knowledge Seeker: Gains the ability to inflict a random negative effect, including silver effects, on each enemy for two turns (65% chance).

Cider of Idun: Freeze chance increases from 50% to 75%, and instantly grants an extra turn.

Throne of Yggdrasil: Now grants an extra turn and Ascension for 2 turns, and disables the following talismans: Orbit, Singularity, Yggdrasil, Valhalla, and Labyrinth on all enemies until they die.

All Father: Increases ATK, MAGIC, DEF, and MR by +10% every action. Increase Critical Strike Chance by +5% every action. Gain a Physical, Magic, or True Block for 2 turns every turn. Gain Perfect Accuracy for 2 turns if your HP is below 50%.

[hugoW]

:thumbs up:

[Azagthor]

Also, should I make more posts like this for the other Awakenable characters? Let me know if you'd want to see that.

Yes please, that would be wonderful! This is such a good idea, nice work mate :D

[GrimDusk]

It seems that the power and basic attacks are all the same when you awaken an Odin, and the fury doesn't change. Only the passive, stat changes, and talisman slots are different.

[SoulGravity]

I have been working on Magnus Odin, but still need stuff. I can make him a priority and get him max awakened. I'm 23k forge souls from my goal of what I want from this event.

[SoulGravity]

Fragments... And I'm t sure if they are forge or not, so many different names of frags I get lost easy

[GrimDusk]

Updated to now include Sentinel and Gunner Odin!

[Zugzwang]

Can the playable Odin’s passive be disabled then?

[GrimDusk]

Can the playable Odin’s passive be disabled then? Warrior and Magus' cannot (aside from at the start of battle), however it seems Sentinel and Gunner's can be.

[Puntwothree]

The passives have been added to their descriptions in-store, now, and it looks like slots are being added to the compendium. Still, it's nice to have it all in one place.

Stats are a bonus. Good work.

[SoulGravity]

Updated to now include Sentinel and Gunner Odin!

Awesome �� do you think that soon there will be assassin and cosmic Odin to make the collection 6 or just assassin making it 5?

[Yup]

There will be 6 total Odins. Just check the "Achievements" tab in the app. :)

[SoulGravity]

Thanks, when I seen after getting the first two, sentinel and gunner appeared, made me think there has to be an assassin and possibly a cosmic. That just solidified it. They will need to come up with more ways to get the fragments, can't afford to buy 80k fragments. Bad enough I screwed myself out of several thousand ironite trying to madam luck and the new Ragnar toon and shouldn't have went after Freya. I got suckered in...lol

[Yup]

80k?? You'll need 120K frags for all 6.... And at measly 1,500 frags each purchase.. you'll need deeeeep pockets.

[hugoW]

Those 1500 frags are just 10 times only.
Plus some ending pack of 7500 and the 7500 pack at the begining.

Assuming the future is the same way as now, its made for not being supposed to buy all of the odins.

[Muzzleloader]

It's set the same as the gods on steroids. The gods we easier to get than Odins are set up. Open the wallet or do the long term Raid option.

[Yup]

More closely related to the LOLs... which were all achievable by the end of the event.. but with Odin.. I don't think that's possible without spending spending spending. And even then all 6 would be a stretch. And then you throw in things like Freya and her cosmic which take the same frags.... I think they've set it up to ENSURE you can't get all 6 by the end of the event.

[Brickster]

I think they've set it up to ENSURE you can't get all 6 by the end of the event.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. The accumulation of forged frags is very slow compared to the LoL event last year.
The incentive to spend money is alot bigger this time around. Not for me though; I couldn't care less about this Norse mythology crap, they've overdone it way too much.

[Yup]

Revision.. I think they've set it up so you can ONLY get 1 Odin by the time the event ends.. unless you spend, spend, spend.

Disappointing... should have at least been able to collect 60k frags for 3.... but there are 40+ days left so.. who knows.

[scimitar]

Please tell me those who have a fully awakened Odin (magus, warrior). His passive - only he does not receive debuffs or all allies? Played in the arena (a week ago) - it concerned everyone

[Yup]

From what I've seen via a trooper with a Maxed G Odin and running dungeons.. he DOES receive debuffs.... if he's not supposed to.. it's broke.

[scimitar]

This is probably what I wanted to know: is it broken or not

[Yup]

I think Raid Odins are wearing an "Odin Cosmic T3" talisman.. that may be the differing factor.

[slauki]

More closely related to the LOLs... which were all achievable by the end of the event.. but with Odin.. I don't think that's possible without spending spending spending. And even then all 6 would be a stretch. And then you throw in things like Freya and her cosmic which take the same frags.... I think they've set it up to ENSURE you can't get all 6 by the end of the event.

if we are lucky we will get one or two. this event is really lame, since we need 3 months of heavy grinding for 1/6 of all odins. not sure what's the idea behind this, but it's not player friendly at all imo...

[Yup]

.. and what's really lame is even if you wanted to actually spend $$$.. even spending $200 a month (10 purchases @ $20 each)... that would only yield 15k frags a month.. not enough for even 1 Odin a month.

So in 3 months.. total spend of $600.. you get 45K frags.... only 2 Odins via purchase. Possibly 3 if there was a "start/end" purchase -- I can't remember....

You can probably get one more Odin when you add in the 3 months of event frags as well... but forget about Freya or her cosmic...

So nothing a player does allows for even close to all 6 Odins and the additional stuff (Freya/cosmics, etc).

Freya and her cosmic was, seemingly, purposefully used to ensure more than 1 Odin during the event was not possible without purchase.

It's just NOT a player-friendly mega-event. It's a money grab at best.

And 2 months from now.. all the Odins will be outdated when the next Clan Raid level opens with a new god....

It would be one thing to spend money like that on a character that will serve you well for then next 6 months to a year. But the power creep in this app, and speed of new character releases, is so rapid... it's simply not worth the money. In fact, it's getting so any money spent on characters is largely wasted.

They priced new characters at $200 basically (750 frags). And there's no real way to know if a character is even worth it until you have him...They've overestimated character values. Ragnar is a $10 character, not $200.. He's about as useful as the $20 Eds.... but he's not an Ed. Odins.. $50 characters.. not Eds and not THAT powerful for a player because the player versions aren't boosted as much as the raid Odins...

[slauki]

It would be one thing to spend money like that on a character that will serve you well for then next 6 months to a year. But the power creep in this app, and speed of new character releases, is so rapid... it's simply not worth the money. In fact, it's getting so any money spent on characters is largely wasted.


yep this is very true. why would any sane person spend money on chars, if they are only useful for maximum 4 weeks? the value of the sales is extremly low. every buyer will feel cheated sooner or later. remember the selling banshees pre nerf, this was customer disrespect at it's finest and an all time low money grab. and a sign of moral bankrupcy as well. usually they are not as dirty as other companies i can tell you but from time to time they really go mad out of nowhere....

[Yup]

I guess they bank on short term memories being horrible.. or user decay being extreme... or a users inability to do any math.

[MuzakMaker]

I don't think it's a horrible idea to only have one Odin available without purchase during the event if they had simply said at the onset "By the end of the event you will be able to buy ONE Odin of your choice. The rest will need to be earned through clans at a later date".

Odins don't seem to be game changing (I've one shot the 2 maxed ones I've faced in arena) and it's up to the game designers to determine the pacing that most players can obtain them and impose any limits they want to help that happening.

The problem is that this was completely different from the previous mega events and they didn't bother to be transparent with this shift.

[Maiden]

I don't think it's a horrible idea to only have one Odin available without purchase during the event if they had simply said at the onset "By the end of the event you will be able to buy ONE Odin of your choice. The rest will need to be earned through clans at a later date".

Yep, absolutely there. However, I believe it´s a premeditated idea not to share that info with us. Mofo, anxiety, and more are marketing strategies to make us spend money in a game. Also, if they are not set to what they said, they can change the pace of releasing frags according to their expectations/results week/event after week/event.

The other problem is the char devaluation/depreciation. If they only release 1 Odin within these 2 months(?) mega event. For how long are you going to need to play in order to get the others? Does it worth? (Hello Lucifer!!!) Maybe just to have an excuse to keep playing when you have nothing else to do. But again just for the lol of having it. Isn´t bad though. But we all know that the balance between the time you need to invest in order to have a char is rather bad with the usefulness of that char by the time you got it.

Problem isn´t the long rung, devaluation it is :/ Maybe when I finally got a second Odin (assuming I´ll have one by the end of the mega event xD) he got rebuffed and revamped? :D :D :D

[RobG-9641]

It needs to be 1 Odin for the Mega event. Otherwise, Arena would become Maxed Viking or Cyborg and 3 Odin. Everyone at top of arena would have same copycat defense... 1 Odin at least provides a glimmer of diversification in upcoming arena defenses.

[Maiden]

Because not everyone at top arena has the same defense now... xD

[URock]

Who cares about bugged arena?

[emahncke]

Sooooo, which Odin should I get? Already have 20k frags, but not sure which one to go for. Any recommendations????

[GrimDusk]

People seem to like Warrior the most. Magus and Cosmic seem underwhelming, Sentinel is okay, and Gunner is right behind Warrior.

[emahncke]

People seem to like Warrior the most. Magus and Cosmic seem underwhelming, Sentinel is okay, and Gunner is right behind Warrior.

You're the best GrimDusk!!!!

[JudasFromHell]

Thanks for this great post! What shards are needed for a max awakened Odin?

[Olevipoeg]

Cosmic Odin final stats:
HP 11182
ATK 1272
DEF 654
MAGIC 1272
MR 654
SPC 626

[Brickster]

Who cares about bugged arena?

Quality comment right here.



In other news:
Magus Odin passive's wording is a bit vague. He blocks negative effects on ALL ALLIES for the first 3 turns of the battle, not just himself.

[GrimDusk]

Not only is it a bit vague, it is also extremely busted as per usual. I had a fight against a GRE the other day, and there was a Magus Odin. Since Magus Odin basically says "fuck you" to negative effects, I couldn't passive disable GRE... even when Odin was dead. This led to an endless cycle of me killing Odin and GRE reviving him immediately. Essentially, the block negative effects never fades on allies.

[Brickster]

Not only is it a bit vague, it is also extremely busted as per usual. I had a fight against a GRE the other day, and there was a Magus Odin. Since Magus Odin basically says "fuck you" to negative effects, I couldn't passive disable GRE... even when Odin was dead. This led to an endless cycle of me killing Odin and GRE reviving him immediately. Essentially, the block negative effects never fades on allies.

It does fade after 3 turns, like the text states. But after Magus Odin dies it seems to reactivate.

[MetalKing]

Poll:
For those of you that finally got an odin for this mega event, which one did you pick?
Assassin (1)
Cosmic
Gunner
Magus
Sentinel
Warrior

[Yup]

Cosmic....

Only 18K more frags to #2~~~~~~~ What a stupid event.

[emahncke]

Poll:
For those of you that finally got an odin for this mega event, which one did you pick?
Assassin (1)
Cosmic
Gunner
Magus
Sentinel
Warrior

I have 22k frags, and will get Cosmic Odin....just because of the "AllFather" passive

[AndyCatzo]

Poll:
For those of you that finally got an odin for this mega event, which one did you pick?
Assassin (1)
Cosmic
Gunner
Magus (1)
Sentinel
Warrior

I bought magus Odin

[Puntwothree]

@Yup, I don't think you can call this a money grab event if spending money doesn't actually help you all that much.

I think you have to think of it more as, like, a Pokemon set-up. You get to choose one dude without spending any money. Make sure you choose wisely, b/c you might not get another. (If you spend $100 maybe you get one more, but even that's capped.)

This is a tough concept to swallow for completion-ists who want to Catch 'Em All. But it's not inherently "anti-player," and it's not really money-grab either (because the Whales out there have only a minimal advantage).

There is also a possibility that they make all these guys available via some kind of soul or for FC at the end of the mega-event.

[Yup]

Money grab in terms of they HOPE you fall for the purchase limits only then to realize they won't really help you much.

And they've already posted they will be possible to achieve via clans/raids somehow.

[Puntwothree]

So they're preying on just the people who can't do math?

Makes sense.

[Yup]

Yeah they hope you spend spend spend.. and THEN realize you won't have enough frags for more than one or two at most.

[Jdawg]

I went for the warrior Odin. His passive, like the magus can’t be disabled after the first turn.
Father of men reads:
The first attack against each ally misses every turn. Transform All Negative Effects on each ally into a Random Shield. Grant Immunity to Blind, Silence, and Seal including innate effects, but not including Passive Disable, to all allies until they die. This passive can only be disabled at the start of battle.
This has good survivability and he hits hard. You put vipers on him and he counters which builds up fury nicely. I’m rather happy with him.

[dragonmat89]

Cosmic as the cynic in me thought that one might be more expensive to get afterwards in whatever way they are later available.

[Phoenix-7282]

So I am split between choosing warrior or magus Odin. Can anyone having warrior tell me if he transforms silver effects or only red effects?

Edit - Well, since no one answered, I decided to test it out in the arena by fighting people with warrior Odin. Yes, Odin transforms silver effects too. He might be the best.

[BillLion]

So I am split between choosing warrior or magus Odin. Can anyone having warrior tell me if he transforms silver effects or only red effects?

Edit - Well, since no one answered, I decided to test it out in the arena by fighting people with warrior Odin. Yes, Odin transforms silver effects too. He might be the best.

Thanks for posting this. I am also trying to choose between these two and would value input.

[Maiden]

Oh sorry, yes indeed, he does at the beginning of your turn. Which it's really good but don´t get too high expectations, you can easily die with Silvers on you.

[Phoenix-7282]

Oh sorry, yes indeed, he does at the beginning of your turn. Which it's really good but don´t get too high expectations, you can easily die with Silvers on you.

You are right about that. I ended up flipping a coin and bought him anyway. :)

[RTHEddie]

This is a great post! I am happy that I found this...I've been sitting on Forged Soul fragments for a while now simply due to indecision. But my question is do we know when/if Baphomet will become a playable character? And will it be Forged Soul fragments to purchase him? I think that is my only hesitation in parting with 20k fragments right now is really this question.

[Maiden]

This is a great post! I am happy that I found this...I've been sitting on Forged Soul fragments for a while now simply due to indecision. But my question is do we know when/if Baphomet will become a playable character? And will it be Forged Soul fragments to purchase him? I think that is my only hesitation in parting with 20k fragments right now is really this question.

There will be no more additions to the Forge Fragment Store. Baphy won't be purchasable with forge frags. If he becomes available at some point, is going to probably be through the mentioned God Souls who will also contain Odin. You can dig for more info here https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13359-Forge-of-Destiny-Mega-Event-Info-and-Discussion&p=125879#post125879

[RTHEddie]

There will be no more additions to the Forge Fragment Store. Baphy won't be purchasable with forge frags. If he becomes available at some point, is going to probably be through the mentioned God Souls who will also contain Odin. You can dig for more info here https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13359-Forge-of-Destiny-Mega-Event-Info-and-Discussion&p=125879#post125879

Thank you Maiden. I appreciate the info :-)