25000 runs with key dungeons too high.

[Smudger24]

Not sure if anybody else is struggling with this. But with server resets every hour, new data updates in between resets, sluggish play, game hangs, 10 secs in between each run.

Lucky to get 20 runs out of a 2 hour key. I've wasted a few keys now, only able to get a few runs out of them cuz I can't get back into the game after opening it. With 5 days left and I work, the weekend was my time to put my fair share into it.

Hopefully something is done about this. I'd like to get that viking, but it's looking further away with every black screen spinning skull.

[Rain88]

i don't think anyone is not struggling with this. It's a REALLY hard task even without all the constant disconnection

[Esquatcho]

Yeah I agree. If things were running smoothly and you could let a couple of megas run overnight on Frozen, itd be fine. But you cant let anything run without having to restart a hundred times. I spent nearly and hour just trying to get frozen setup to run overnight and come back to only 150 sot having been used.

[Feajy2]

Just another pay 2 win event. Want new Eddie? Play many as you can, than buy frags packs. Well nothing new. I play few mobile games that are free to play with microtransactions and, with microtransaction they have good events with high chances to drop rare toons. Opposite there is greedy monster called Iron Maiden: Legacy of The Beast with greedy frogers. :D

[slauki]

this 25k stuff in 7 days is complete crap. first it's way too much and 2nd they cannot even ensure a proper and stable game environment. so how we are supposed to reach that? well either you reduce the amounts needed or you increase the duration of the event, otherwise this is just a stupid ripoff. same with the so called raids. many of our members cannot enter odin again, the same bug for weeks now. the game is really in a shitty state if we want to be honsest, but well this is nothing new ;)

we should get compensation packs every week, based on all of these messups...

[GotN]

Totally agree. 25k Runs under those circumstances are not doable. They have to rethink and adjust this achievement!

[Tim28213]

Last night I bought 2 mega refills thinking to run overnight. Twice I woke up and found connection error and new game data available. Of the 1200 SoT I purchased last night I still have 900 remaining. During the night there were at least 2 error/new game data available restarts that came up.
Devs even people trying are unable to run enough to get close to the goals you have set. The server environment has once again become completeLy unreliable.

This is a great game. Fun, addictive, great dedicated players. If the devs could find a way to make it stable and a little less buggy we would really appreciate it.

[Doomsday667]

It's not possible to do any run continuously. I want to log in and game freezes like every day. The event goals are too high to reach under these circumstances. They are tough enough without connection errors. Devs, rethink how you can compensate that. Our clan is motivated to do their best, but just a few of them are able to play.

[Tinklestinkie]

Unplayable not to mention that powerslave is good for progression with many of the event goals. Only problem is that it perpetually hangs on 4th stage. Hangs, as in impossible to continue with wasted ironite and keys.
Nothing can load no map can sustain
Bad form.

[MuzakMaker]

I have not been able to play more than 10 minutes in a row. When you combine that with the 10 sec wait between battles (on top of the 30-90 secs of loading) and that we are getting new data randomly with 0 warning, I'm honestly shocked players are still opening keys.

Earlier I was hoping for either an extension of the event OR a lowering of runs required. Now, I can't see this working without both the extension AND the decreased requirements.

I understand that servers can have increased stress while everyone is stuck at home, what sucks is that events don't seem to care and it almost feels like they were structured for virtually no server load expected.

[Madrik]

servers are shite but we will plod on

[Caesar815]

The game is nearly unplayable since the event started ... how are we supposed to reach 25k runs if we even can’t access the Game .... 🤬?

[Madrik]

I seriously think they either need to extend it by a considerable amount or cut the required runs back by a large amount and offer a care package in the form of missing frags..... you cant even run a full key FFS without either new game data or it bloody freezing with the perpetual spinning logo... can the devs actually release anything that friggin works correctly.

also keep an eye on your trooper badges ive earned around 700 badges today but they havent been added on

[Saints_sin]

its a lot of runs yes 834 per clan member for a 30 person clan also its not really worth it for what you get a heroic legendery is sort of shit for the effort personally think it should be a viking ed soul for 25000 runs

[GotN]

That makes totally no sense what you are saying (could be I misunderstand it cause of your horrible interpunctuation so maybe you should learn to express yourself a little more accurate). Doing 25k runs gives you the Eddie + the T3 talisman.

[MarkyMark]

its a lot of runs yes 834 per clan member for a 30 person clan also its not really worth it for what you get a heroic legendery is sort of shit for the effort personally think it should be a viking ed soul for 25000 runs

If you manage the 25k, you'll have enough frags for Viking Invader Ed and the T3 Cosmic (the rest of the challenges other than dungeon grinding are all pretty easy). Without that 6,000 frags for the 25k challenge, you can't get the Ed. So it's kind of an all or nothing deal unless you want to spend money on frags.

834 runs per clan member is nuts, that's 120 runs per member, per day assuming all 30 members are fully active. Even the cheapest frontier dungeon is gonna cost you 1,200 SOT per day for that (Frozen Wasteland / Hard) and most will want to grind more expensive dungeons to knock out achievements etc. at the same time. The new Ed looks pretty good, but is he that good? I dunno.

Given there's been two days of really limited playability for most, it gets even harder tbh.

[Puntwothree]

I have not been able to play more than 10 minutes in a row. When you combine that with the 10 sec wait between battles (on top of the 30-90 secs of loading) and that we are getting new data randomly with 0 warning, I'm honestly shocked players are still opening keys.

Earlier I was hoping for either an extension of the event OR a lowering of runs required. Now, I can't see this working without both the extension AND the decreased requirements.

I understand that servers can have increased stress while everyone is stuck at home, what sucks is that events don't seem to care and it almost feels like they were structured for virtually no server load expected.

It almost sounds like you want the challenge to be easier so the rewards are easier to obtain. That can't be it, though...

But if it were, I would be tempted to agree with you. :-p.

[MuzakMaker]

It almost sounds like you want the challenge to be easier so the rewards are easier to obtain. That can't be it, though...

But if it were, I would be tempted to agree with you. :-p.

I think I might be one of the few who thought the challenge wasn't that bad. 120 runs per member per day can be done with 2 or 3 keys a day.

But those first 2 days were a complete mess. I'm all for a challenge, but there is a fine line between challenge and insurmountable obstacles.

[Shao]

Don't pay anything left in the shop... you'll see they'll make real efforts. right now people pay with a totally degraded game experience... why would they buy more computer servers... we keep paying a game that gets down on day to day... they don't take us at all seriously... just has the time of replies to tickets issued..

[Shao]

They even multiplied by 3 the break time between keeps... to slow down progress

[Puntwothree]

I think I might be one of the few who thought the challenge wasn't that bad. 120 runs per member per day can be done with 2 or 3 keys a day.

But those first 2 days were a complete mess. I'm all for a challenge, but there is a fine line between challenge and insurmountable obstacles.

However, if you skip the Ed. the other rewards are all very achievable with much, much less effort.

99.5% of the player base will be excluded from the top Event reward as-is, but 99.5% of clans should be able to get at least a Viking Cosmic and a couple other goodies. Maybe the lesson is that it's OK to skip some challenges in order to save your ironite and regroup. (I'm not saying I'm happy about the idea.)

There should probably be some small consideration from the Dev. team for the re-introduction of the 10-second timer and the disconnect issues. Due to disconnects, the most precious resource we're likely to lose is Keys. Due to the timer, we lose speed... maybe as much as like 20% depending on what Frontier we're doing. So, lower each challenge goal by 10-20% (timer increase) and throw us some master keys. That would be a nice gesture. It might not ultimately change the reality that some of us will lose our Ed.

[MuzakMaker]

However, if you skip the Ed. the other rewards are all very achievable with much, much less effort.

99.5% of the player base will be excluded from the top Event reward as-is, but 99.5% of clans should be able to get at least a Viking Cosmic and a couple other goodies. Maybe the lesson is that it's OK to skip some challenges in order to save your ironite and regroup. (I'm not saying I'm happy about the idea.)

There should probably be some small consideration from the Dev. team for the re-introduction of the 10-second timer and the disconnect issues. Due to disconnects, the most precious resource we're likely to lose is Keys. Due to the timer, we lose speed... maybe as much as like 20% depending on what Frontier we're doing. So, lower each challenge goal by 10-20% (timer increase) and throw us some master keys. That would be a nice gesture. It might not ultimately change the reality that some of us will lose our Ed.

You hit a point I was trying to make(and probably failing at) quite well. It's okay that not every one finishes events and challenges. The issue comes around when almost nobody finishes what the final goal should be.

Stretch goals are a great way to make things more accessible while still providing a challenge for higher end players. For instance if we needed 15k dungeons for Ed, 20k for the t3 cosmic and then 25k got us something nice like enough awakening mats to polish off maxing Viking Ed we might see more disappointment but less anger with how this event launched.

And I agree considering we are losing out on keys and time with both that 10sec and the server wonkiness a few keys could help ease that pain.

[Saints_sin]

give it 3 months he will be available for 5k fc

[Madrik]

we're half way already with 4 days to go

[Beddie]

we're half way already with 4 days to go

Same thing here

[Puntwothree]

*Slow clap.*

[Natasmai]

if you have 30 reliable clansman...
if you have a reliable server...

this 25k challenge could be done in 16hrs play time.

if they fix the server issues, its an easy event.

[MuzakMaker]

if you have 30 reliable clansman...
if you have a reliable server...

this 25k challenge could be done in 16hrs play time.

if they fix the server issues, its an easy event.

That's four hours of screen time a day; half of a work day. An awful lot to ask from what should be a leisurely app and not a part time job.

[Yup]

Not really... there is auto-replay if the app doesn't crash. So really... it's about 4 times checking the app - not 4hrs of babysitting.. worse case is you may need to have it nearby to restart runs when it crashes.

All I remember are the days BEFORE there was auto-replay... oh the hours needed to tap buttons at the end of every run. THEN you had to babysit. You really don't much now. It simply takes more ironite for refills.

If you are lucky enough to NOT suffer from the crashing.. then fill SOT and start it letting it run overnight.

I fill SOT and start it.. then simply keep it close by so I can see when it's crashed....

[Muzzleloader]

16 hours run time in seven days is a little over two hours a day.

[MuzakMaker]

16 hours in four days left in the event.

Yeah, if everything worked sure 4 hours of "babysitting". That's still screen time which doesn't change the fact that it's a lot to ask from a leisurely app and we're assuming that every clan has 30 members who can actually afford to run all those dungeons.

[Yup]

Every reward should not be attainable by every player. Some rewards should require some experience. If every player has a right every reward.. why are there "challenges' at all. Why not merely throw everything in the store for free?


I mean you can't beat BNW X until you have characters strong enough... You can't beat LOL XV until your character are strong enough..... Youc an't hit #1 in Pvp or Gauntlet without some experience. You can't meet "insanity" event challenges until you have the appropriate characters/talismans..... Assuming every possible clan challenge is possible by every single clan seems to be forgetting that they are challenges not freebies. The ENTIRE point of a difficult clan challenge is to require a strong clan.

Now complain that you can't get Invader Ed unless you buy frags...... sure fine.. but complaining about the challenges is kind of missing the point.

[Muzzleloader]

Not everyone has been affected that you could not play at all in the last three days. Running hard in the wasteland dungeon gives about 100 runs per mega refill with about 30% ironite return. For a grind event 700 ironite is not unusual. The 3* colored evo shards and colorless cosmic evo runes can be used by all, so the rewards are not unusable.

[MuzakMaker]

Every reward should not be attainable by every player. Some rewards should require some experience. If every player has a right every reward.. why are there "challenges' at all. Why not merely throw everything in the store for free?


I mean you can't beat BNW X until you have characters strong enough... You can't beat LOL XV until your character are strong enough..... Youc an't hit #1 in Pvp or Gauntlet without some experience. You can't meet "insanity" event challenges until you have the appropriate characters/talismans..... Assuming every possible clan challenge is possible by every single clan seems to be forgetting that they are challenges not freebies. The ENTIRE point of a difficult clan challenge is to require a strong clan.

Now complain that you can't get Invader Ed unless you buy frags...... sure fine.. but complaining about the challenges is kind of missing the point.

I will continue to "complain" because just giving out frags does nothing to meter the compensation.

Say the reward is 6000 frags (the difference between the last two challenges). Newbie clans who will barely be able to play dungeons are going to see this as a massive boon.

Experienced clans like ours where we were going to hit the 25k regardless are just getting a little extra benefit.

If they had extended the event or shortened the requirements for the achievements then everyone would get the same rewards they were going to.

You are right clan challenges should reward those who can work hard and meet them. That's why this compensation was poor and (in my opinion) doesn't really do anything to address the fact that this has been a consistent problem and it was irresponsible to even think the app could handle this event when it couldn't even handle less intense events.

[Yup]

... it was irresponsible to even think the app could handle this event when it couldn't even handle less intense events.

I don't disagree there.

And I find it odd that they cancel the LOL grind event (or delay it) in favor of more intense grind event. But... well... I have no clue what's behind the curtain.

FYI if the compensation is 3-4k frags.. it's not going to allow some clans that can't hit the 25K to get Invader ed anyway.

[MuzakMaker]

I don't disagree there.

And I find it odd that they cancel the LOL grind event (or delay it) in favor of more intense grind event. But... well... I have no clue what's behind the curtain.

FYI is the compensation is 3-4k frags.. it's not going to allow some clans that can't hit the 25K to get Invader ed anyway.

I'm glad that it's not as huge as others were theorizing but still the problem remains with just granting an arbitary number of frags. It's going to be unequal amount of compensation. For the clans that just nearly missed out because of the servers being their normally horrible self, this might just feel like a slap in the face.

Edit: I see you edited your statement to include IF the reward is the amount you stated. Still leaves the issue of not fair compensation. Honestly I just assumed it had reached others stores early like has happened many a time.

[Maiden]

Although I´m grateful for the compensation pack, I just want to play the game in a normal way with a regular event... How come it is possible to manage something (events, implementations, releases, etc) in such a horrible way? I hate to be so nasty but come on! You must be totally overrun since ages ago. If that´s the case sorry ppl, just hope you find a way to get better.

Anyway despite the future compensation a few things that still itches me. You trow the CP but never addressed the Event itself, not the challenges or duration so it´s safe to think:

- You are OK with the 25k runs in 6 days.

- SO, it´s ok that around 15% (maybe?) of clans are probably hitting Viking Invader.

- There is no variety in the store. You got Viking Invader, Cosmic Talisman, and 3 items more with a maximum quantity purchasable. What´s the point of hitting the event at all if it is not conceived to be doable for not-elite clans? I mean, the reasonable purchase is one cosmic talisman (if we don´t reach Viking Invader) some forge events and sob... what's the point of earning, I dunno 20k in frags, if I might use only 7,5k? Pls, don´t say convert everything to precious souls...

In this line of thinking. Why overlapping so much the Forge event? Why we got Vanquisher frags plus a few Forge frags, wasn´t it better to have only Forge frags? at least if we don´t reach the maximum goal this time we could use frags for Odin/s or something, or if you complete every single event at the end you got Odin AND Invader (hoping we are going to earn so many frags for one Odin at least when Forge finish....)

- If the best option to complete the event is to run wasteland, which as dungeon itself it doesn't help us at all as players, is because you want to make us burn all our resources... well what am I saying, that's regular a behavior xD at some point it´s ok, you got to keep the revenue.. but isn´t this too much?

Well not much more until we got that CP and see what's inside. Thank you again for addressing server issues, is not solved yet but it´s a little better. Thks.

[real_schweiger]

- There is no variety in the store. You got Viking Invader, Cosmic Talisman, and 3 items more with a maximum quantity purchasable. What´s the point of hitting the event at all if it is not conceived to be doable for not-elite clans? I mean, the reasonable purchase is one cosmic talisman (if we don´t reach Viking Invader) some forge events and sob... what's the point of earning, I dunno 20k in frags, if I might use only 7,5k? Pls, don´t say convert everything to precious souls...

In this line of thinking. Why overlapping so much the Forge event? Why we got Vanquisher frags plus a few Forge frags, wasn´t it better to have only Forge frags? at least if we don´t reach the maximum goal this time we could use frags for Odin/s or something, or if you complete every single event at the end you got Odin AND Invader (hoping we are going to earn so many frags for one Odin at least when Forge finish....)


I´m with you concerning those frags and their purpose if you don´t reach the goal. Concerning many issues this game tires me more and more since Odin appeared in RAID (with rewards you only "achieve" when you are lucky enough to earn rewarded stuff anywhere else) and all those overlapping frag over frag events. Having a weekly troubleshooting either on Odin (Start / Freeze / toons and sob counted, no rewards), or the current event stuff (horrible connection issues and high end grinding goals as always) comes towards this.
I like the monthly goal of earning a new toon during several events, but things turn into a mess at the moment.
That "EDventure" dungeon counted one day to the event achievemt, so you could run two events in one, the other day it didn´t, so choose your favourite.

If you won´t finish an event with the highscore (new toon) you will be left with probably a T3 and some stuff you are able to purchase max 3 times. F.E. Sitting on 18.000 frags means you can convert them to stuff you don´t need/want or into precious souls.
Thinking about that those toons surely will appear in fc store during the next months makes it less "stressful" - but all that much is way too much as far as it is at some point "grind for all or nothing"

This dungeon event is a very expensive one, as you already said. So you are a lucky player if you got some dungeons in which you can run for personal achievements as well.

[Azile]

Not sure where the concept of where everybody somehow deserves to be able to get every toon. You don't. This toon is for clans that have a solid player group who are willing to work hard to achieve the end result. If your clan is not able to pull it off, then that is your clan's choice or your choice in choosing a clan. You make it sound like it is almost impossible when the truth is, it is quite achievable. Our clan has maybe half of us at most working very aggressively towards the goal. We are at 18K runs done already and will be finished in another 24 hours, far ahead of the cutoff and this is with all the server issues as well. And the cost, while yes, it has cost resources to attack this thing, it is not even close to being ridiculous. Grinding for C Lilith was far more expensive of a grind and took a lot of effort to achieve.

You do not need to run Wastelands either. I have been running all sorts of dungeons and only using Wastelands when I sleep. Any dungeon, especially Cosmic dungeons are perfectly fine for attacking this thing unless you literally want to autoplay with hardly any effort put into the play, then I guess wastelands is for you. Even then, big deal. Honestly, 5 players could pull off all the runs required if they all were dedicated to the achievement. If you do not even have that in your clan and you are that type of player, you are probably in the wrong clan for your playstyle, so maybe join a clan that suites and fits your goals and playstyle better.

The majority of the players in our clan working on this are favoring Cosmic dungeons.

If every reward challenge ends up being so easy that most clans can achieve the result, then what is the point exactly? I am glad they are doing clan stuff that actually require some serious gameplay and present a challenge.

And honestly, if the servers were running smoothly, 25K is kind of a low bar for getting the toon and a T3 talisman. Should have been more like 50K runs to get this.

Event is too easy really.

[Madrik]

well said Azile, if clans cant hit the goal then they are either not trying hard enough or dont want to put the resources in to obtain the goal.

[MuzakMaker]

well said Azile, if clans cant hit the goal then they are either not trying hard enough or dont want to put the resources in to obtain the goal.

This is not an issue of trying or not putting in resources. When did we suddenly become ok with the game being on for 3+ hours a day?

Asking 50K is an absolute joke. That's nearly 250 runs per member per day (in a perfectly active clan where everybody does their part) with the load times and auto run delay we're looking at least a minute per run. 4 hours a day from what should be an app for fun.

Plus the longer you require players to play, the more that will be on the servers at any given time. Which of course is not going to help with all the server disconnects.

I know it was started as joke but I'm starting to seriously consider who ever it was who posted that we're just mining bitcoin for the frogs. I honestly can't think of any other reason why they would think it's not unreasonable to have our phones on that long.

[Madrik]

it's up to you if you wanna hit the rewards or not. but moaning that its not been playable is just a cop out... because we've managed to almost complete the task with the same issues as everybody else...

[Mateja]

In a perfectly active clan 843 runs per member is not a hard task and even if a few players were weaker it's still manageable. It's on par with regular grind events. Cyborg Monday required almost double this number, Helsing a little less than him, Ferryman was about 1000 runs, and so on and so forth. And before we forget, auto replay still works. You don't have to watch it for hours on end, simply checking up from time to time is enough. If it gets impossible to continue, stop and try later. Simple enough.
If you can't do it, do something else that will enable you to participate in future events. If you don't want to do it, your problem so don't complain. If you want to do it but your clan can't maybe it's time for a change.
Events are not meant for everyone nor should everyone get the best rewards. If they were, wouldn't it be simpler to just give us rewards?

[Maiden]

How come did it become the reality of a few the must for everyone? Only assuming everyone has the same reality than you is easy to think (and mistakenly) to judge others...

Don´t get me wrong I ´m still not sure if the Event is crazy or not, maybe it is not, honestly. Just, in my opinion, 25k sounds a little too much. 20k sounds a fair deal for a regular clan where some ppl play more than others, it looks challenging enough. But well I am not a dev, I have no data about this, just the general opinion that I am reading on. Maybe the frags distribution among the achievements was the only issue among players. Or maybe it is a good opportunity for clans to work on their clansmen I dunno. Let´s see at the end of the event and improve.


And yes, Viking Invader may be only a reward for the elite (or people who can play hours and hours and got the resources for that) and I am ok with that, that's fine. And as I said before Devs seems ok with the event duration and requirements, so maybe Invader was meant for a few. It is ok! But my point doesn´t sound crazy right? If we could have more options at the store or something else to spend frags out if we don´t reach the main goal that would be nice... Let ppl try out and if they can´t reach Invader, let them use the frags on another stuff...

[Yup]

Why is "running wasteland the best option"???

I've chipped away at OTHER achievements which I'd eventually do anyway... I ran Eddie's Adventure until it ended (picked up 3 more Dog T3 cosmics...) Then Powerslave Dungeon, Samurai Dungeon, Cosmic dungeons... These would all be run to hit achievements it just so happens they are ALSO good for this event. In fact, running wasteland is, in my view, the WORST dungeon to run unless you're trying to hit some achievements specifically for that dungeon.

Is wasteland the cheapest in terms of SOT, sure compared to the others... but that doesn't make it the "best" in my view. And in fact, LOL X seems to count. At least it did for the personal event challenges. I don't know if it counts for clan challenges.


I do ABSOLUTELY agree with you about the store.... non-special items are not needed by higher-end players and the lower-end players could do with better options than the standard cosmic frags, gold, etc. The max-purchase limits are there, I think, for top end players to avoid them loading up on dozens of items (they probably don't need anyway). It would be nice to see more variety. Honestly, I get tired of EVERYTHtING being frags. It would be nice to see actual WHOLE items (souls, talisman SETS) more often than just more frags or one/two-off talismans.... even if that was more about older talismans.. like a set of Energy talismans, or a set of Hunter, or Tranquility, or Strike, etc. That would at least mix things up.

[Beddie]

My take on this event is that it’s a good way to make people complete the frontier dungeon achievements

[Maiden]

My take on this event is that it’s a good way to make people complete the frontier dungeon achievements

Yes! I thought this as soon at the event started, and I´m actually hitting some cosmic talisman challenges, but I´ve been told that some for most regular players hitting cosmics its too hard/slow cos of the natural 5* required. And the same with some other frontier keys. So that the reason a lot of ppl are choosing wasteland according to good balance between difficulty and SoT value. I personally don´t like at all wasteland but hey, if it helps. go for them.

[Mateja]

(...)
But my point doesn´t sound crazy right? If we could have more options at the store or something else to spend frags out if we don´t reach the main goal that would be nice... Let ppl try out and if they can´t reach Invader, let them use the frags on another stuff...

More options in the store would be fair to people who can't go all the way, that's a good point. Reaching let's say 20k runs and not being able to spend what you earned is just demotivating. And maybe frags should've been redistributed so that you could get Invader from 20k runs and then cosmic talisman from 25k. But saying that event should be changed just because you (not really you, someone) can't do it...
It took me about year and a half to be able to finish every grind we get. Before that I didn't go around asking for the bar to be set lower, I did what I could and waited for the next event.

[IronMaster]

...I ran Eddie's Adventure until it ended... These would all be run to hit achievements...

Eddie's Adventure dungeon has counted only in individual goals. I've checked this.
Before: clan = 63, individual = 0.
Run 10 times.
After: clan = 63, individual = 10.

Also LoL X counted as frontier dungeon for individaul but not for clan

[Yup]

Nah.. I saw the rewards inline with other rewards, not a separate popup, when running Eddies Adventure -- but, of course, I was running it with Shock/Smite/Talismans to meet challenge. So it's possible that was what counted...... And LOLX Counted at least for those initial 1K run LOL/BNW clan challenges.

But, I can't compare personal challenges with clan challenges, we have a clan that hits things hard so tracking individual numbers for clan challenges is pretty impossible. It would be nice to have a second progress bar/counter to show how many runs you have contributed though.

[Saints_sin]

Yes! I thought this as soon at the event started, and I´m actually hitting some cosmic talisman challenges, but I´ve been told that some for most regular players hitting cosmics its too hard/slow cos of the natural 5* required. And the same with some other frontier keys. So that the reason a lot of ppl are choosing wasteland according to good balance between difficulty and SoT value. I personally don´t like at all wasteland but hey, if it helps. go for them.

too hard/slow lmfao thats only for the players who dont have the toons too pull it off hardest is magus but the rest are fairly quick

[Puntwothree]

Well @maiden, Wasteland only costs 10 SoT, is unlimited, lasts for 8 hours, and can be completed in well under 30 seconds. Hard to beat those stats with a Frontier Key.

But yeah, I kinda loathe it all the same...

It's hard to like Barren, Cold, and a Couple of Bricks.

EDIT: On second thought, Viking Ed. might hail from there. Seems like a hint.

[Maiden]

Well @maiden, Wasteland only costs 10 SoT, is unlimited, lasts for 8 hours, and can be completed in well under 30 seconds. Hard to beat those stats with a Frontier Key.

But yeah, I kinda loathe it all the same...

It's hard to like Barren, Cold, and a Couple of Bricks.

EDIT: On second thought, Viking Ed. might hail from there. Seems like a hint.

I´m vegetarian, give me some bricks (?) Ahhh those Vikings, they can eat you alive if let them (?)

[Saints_sin]

viking ed should be in the fragments like cyborg

[Bobby2613-8511]

too hard/slow lmfao thats only for the players who dont have the toons too pull it off hardest is magus but the rest are fairly quick

To be fair, I was the one telling that to Maiden. Not because I can't play it but because WHEN I tried it, back then, I had only one natural 5* for the class I was given. I understand this may look stupid for vet players but sometimes we forget about the new players starting out. Most clans are made with a great variety of players and that was said only for helping our more casual ones.

[RobG-9641]

25,000 isn’t too high, the 6 day time frame is too short. We shouldn’t have to run game/devices 10-12 hours a day or overnight...
Maybe during quarantine people have more time, but if work and life were normal, this game shouldn’t have to be played for hours upon hours. Extend it out for 2 weeks.
Having a lot of time to play isn’t putting in hard work to the game, it’s just running the game hours upon hours on auto play. It’s a time issue.

[Bartman9999]

25,000 isn’t too high, the 6 day time frame is too short. We shouldn’t have to run game/devices 10-12 hours a day or overnight...
Maybe during quarantine people have more time, but if work and life were normal, this game shouldn’t have to be played for hours upon hours. Extend it out for 2 weeks.
Having a lot of time to play isn’t putting in hard work to the game, it’s just running the game hours upon hours on auto play. It’s a time issue.

Nah, It's not impossible, certainly it's something doable.

It's just not fun.

Most clans don't have 15-20 ppl that take this game as their second job... surely there will be an small percentage of clans that will achieve it. Out of these few, I believe in other clans there will be many frustrated players with 1000-2000 frontier runs that will be angry at clanmmates by not contributing enough... some will end up quitting thee gamee out of frustration, others will do it after realizing this is plainly "not fun". No joy in the game anymore.

[Iced_Earth]

Wheres the compesitionpack?

2 Days left, my Clan was only able to do 9k runs by now cuz server issues. Will you reduce the needed runs like before or what is the plan?

[waymo]

you just need active clan members & ironite. you can literally do it in your sleep. Just load up & run frozen wasteland when u go to bed & hopefully the crashes won't get u. I've run 2 consecutive nights without problem. If it works it's cool if not I don't stress because there's nothing i can do about game bugs & I don't stress about it. There's no need to treat it like a second job


Nah, It's not impossible, certainly it's something doable.

It's just not fun.

Most clans don't have 15-20 ppl that take this game as their second job... surely there will be an small percentage of clans that will achieve it. Out of these few, I believe in other clans there will be many frustrated players with 1000-2000 frontier runs that will be angry at clanmmates by not contributing enough... some will end up quitting thee gamee out of frustration, others will do it after realizing this is plainly "not fun". No joy in the game anymore.

[Olevipoeg]

I´m vegetarian, give me some bricks (?) Ahhh those Vikings, they can eat you alive if let them (?)
Our clan members, contrary to popular belief, do not eat people. :)

[Madrik]

last final push for our clan less then 1000 runs to go

[Beddie]

last final push for our clan less then 1000 runs to go
Joms only has less than 400 runs left

[Muzzleloader]

As you can see we have a braggart in our clan.

[Beddie]

As you can see we have a braggart in our clan.

On that note, we've completed all 25K runs

[Iced_Earth]

An clarification from the devs?

[Maiden]

An clarification from the devs?

Sry mate I just saw your previous post, but with only 9k runs, I wouldn´t wait for that package to be any help for you. I have no clue about the compensation but giving you more than the other half of the event it looks sincerely hoping too much...

[Puntwothree]

Logically I would think the Comp. package would cover at least the last challenge (it being the hardest to achieve, and made harder by server issues, etc.). Otherwise what would be the point? If a clan has managed that hurdle, they've already received all the rewards from the challenge and don't "need" the package. If they haven't, a package worth less isn't helpful (because of how rewards are set up).

(This is more generous than a lot of guesses I've been seeing/hearing, but it's mine.)

Having said that, you should hedge your bets and try for the 15 or 20K mark for the Ed. and/or any sort of Tali for him. And if you can't make those numbers, you might what to cut your losses and stop pumping ironite into Barren, Cold, and a Couple of Bricks.

Here's to logical devs and generosity. We'll see what happens...

[Zugzwang]

Why is "running wasteland the best option"???

FROZEN wasteland IS open 8 HOURS as opposed to the 1 or 2 THE others ARE and some PEOPLE would rather SLEEP than play THE game all day AND keep POPPING keys into the BOS all NIGHT just so they can GET some achievements a little BIT sooner. Do YoU uNdErStAnD nOw???

[Iced_Earth]

Wheres the compesitionpack?

2 Days left, my Clan was only able to do 9k runs by now cuz server issues. Will you reduce the needed runs like before or what is the plan?

Hey Devs, would you please answer?

[Saints_sin]

Hey Devs, would you please answer? they wont answer

[Iced_Earth]

The Event will pass soon. The devs wroted about a compesition. I want to know how it will look live. Because i want to know how much we will have to grind till the Event ends..

All i want is a clear! Communication..

[AndyCatzo]

The Event will pass soon. The devs wroted about a compesition. I want to know how it will look live. Because i want to know how much we will have to grind till the Event ends..

All i want is a clear! Communication..

If you are waiting to see how the compensation pack will look....then you are taking the wrong approach, you should grind and try to complete the 25K runs like all of us that already completed the event and have the Viking invader Eddie

[DeathDealer-5301]

Can't find the info now, but did they say the'd extend the event too, or just give some comp frags?

[Bobby2613-8511]

Can't find the info now, but did they say the'd extend the event too, or just give some comp frags?

https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13446-Game-Status-Update-April-20-2020&p=123741#post123741

[DeathDealer-5301]

Thanks, sounds like the store offers will be extended, not the actual event. That better be a good comp pack.
I've been around long enough to see a ton of server issues, but this one really bothered me for some reason.

[Maiden]

Well, we (Order of the Eld) just finish the 25k runs a few hours before the Compensation Pack was live... so now we have 15kk extra frags xD My previous question is now even more actual than before, what should we do with so many frags and nothing to spend? XDDDDD Hahahah

[AndyCatzo]

Well, we (Order of the Eld) just finish the 25k runs a few hours before the Compensation Pack was live... so now we have 15kk extra frags xD My previous question is now even more actual than before, what should we do with so many frags and nothing to spend? XDDDDD Hahahah

You can buy another N3 talisman, that way you won't need to share it between Viking Eddie and Viking Invader Eddie, or also we can ask the devs to expand the number of times that we are allowed to buy the items in the store xD

[Yup]

the Viking Cosmic essentially does much the same thing as Invader Ed's passive. There's not a whole lot of benefit to putting the Viking Cosmic on Invader Ed. The only real difference is the Cosmic drains Fury, while Invaders's passive revives him. I mean, if you can it certainly won't hurt anything. I'm just pointing out that they Viking cosmic on Invader may not offer any real benefit depending on how you use Invader.

I'm disappointed that apparently you can only get ONE invader Ed....

[Puntwothree]

@maiden: Can you convert them to Precious Souls? 15,000/50... 30? I mean, it's not nothing.

[Madrik]

@puntwothree, Yes you can convert them cus i converted the remaining frags after buying secind T3, awakening frags and Forged soul frags... ended up with 8m gold and hearts for sac

[Puntwothree]

See? That's not nothing!

[SKI]

Nothing will change until some of the current devs are fired and replaced with compassionate human beings. That don't just view us as wallets.

[Knut-3112]

I think it's not devs themselves that are to blame but their superior wiseguys that pull the strings. They know better.

[AndyCatzo]

I think it's not devs themselves that are to blame but their superior wiseguys that pull the strings. They know better.

I agree, it is not the devs, if the other guy is referring to the bugs, then, yes, it is them, but as for the offers and all other purchasable items, it is not them but their bosses and the people running the business, the devs just code those requirements