June 2020, Part 2 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Durandal_LOTB]

This is the main post to discuss tuning changes that are in an upcoming update.

You can see the details for the preliminary tuning adjustments in the Game Updates forum post (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13633-June-2020-Part-2-Tuning-PRELIMINARY).

[Yup]

Can the clan reward souls simply drop the "featured talisman" from the standard gold/silver/bronze soul rewards.. frankly I'm getting sick of seeing Tower talismans with every clan Gold soul. I've had no less than 6 sets of Tower talismans drop for Clan Gold and Tribute souls in the past couple weeks. It simply starts feeling like wasted effort if the rewards are ALWAYS the same and never anything one is seeking. Just today. .the Clan Gold dropped Towers AGAIN.


Also.. in the update list.. You've listed Awakening updates twice by mistake --- same items, just shown twice.

And.. is there a Fix for Wasteland Ed's "suicide" fury coming???

[Durandal_LOTB]

Can the clan reward souls simply drop the "featured talisman" from the standard gold/silver/bronze soul rewards.. frankly I'm getting sick of seeing Tower talismans with every clan Gold soul. I've had no less than 6 sets of Tower talismans drop for Clan Gold and Tribute souls in the past couple weeks. It simply starts feeling like wasted effort if the rewards are ALWAYS the same and never anything one is seeking. Just today. .the Clan Gold dropped Towers AGAIN.

Also.. in the update list.. You've listed Awakening updates twice by mistake --- same items, just shown twice.

And.. is there a Fix for Wasteland Ed's "suicide" fury coming???

I will follow up with the team and suggest updating featured clan reward talismans sometime soon as your feedback is a valid concern.

Thanks for catching that formatting error too, it has since been fixed.

As for Wasteland Eddie, the team needs a bit more time to investigate and correct some of his unintended interactions. While his fixes wont be ready for this release, know that he hasn't been forgotten. Much love to any Aussies in the house.

[Yup]

Thanks Drandal! I very much appreciate the response!

The Clan Gold (maybe silver too) should at least NOT drop the purchasable sets in the clan store and instead default to the more rare sets... Midgard, Ragnarok, Frontier, Valhalla... i.e. the OTHER sets that can drop but thus far really haven't here... I've never seen the more rare sets drop from a Clan reward soul - I've only gotten Towers and Gates from Clan Gold souls.. only the Tribute souls have dropped the more rare sets.

[Phoenix-7282]

I like the new "context" for skill changes.

First awakenable assassin Eddie is a 4 star Eddie? Interesting. Still waiting for Redan to be awakenable. She has a good set of moves, but her passive is outdated.

I liked GRE's ability to remove ghost. He was the only character capable of doing that without killing allies.(edit - I take that back. He kills allies when he removes ghost) :/

Speaking of ghost, please fix the soul protect generated by Lilith cosmic. It makes allies permanently die by ghosting them and makes passive of assassin Lilith useless.

[zamasu]

I agree. Clan Gold Souls should have better rewards. I have gotten 1 set of gates, 1 set of tower and 4 sets of warlods. Not cool.

They should drop premium sets like vipers, midgard, ygg, nifhlhem, etc...

Also consider reducing the cost of open clan Mythical Souls ... they are too expensive.

More ways to earn gold. Create a "Gold Dungeon" or something like that

[Maiden]

Odd choice to awaken Executioner Eddie, he wasn´t a bad character.. we got a lot of random 4* Eddies waiting for a new beginning but well... if you got a 4* awake we could open a door for awakening a 3* and that would be interesting.

Still today, I couldn´t sit down and "enjoy" the latest update with Baphy (The famous: "This week my boss assigned me less work than you" is real), but it looks like these fixes and releases on chars are heavily orientated to defeat Baphy. Bleed seems the new thing...

[Yup]

I have gotten 1 set of gates, 1 set of tower and 4 sets of warlods. Not cool.

Still Better than Tower, Gate, Tower, Tower, Tower, Tower, Tower :)

The last one really kind of pissed me off... but then I dropped the Tribute soul (from reward frags) and there was a set of Valhalla... so the anger subsided.

[dragonmat89]

How much will Executioner Eddie cost to awaken? Was Osiris' cost increase a bug?

As mentioned on your previous post here (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?12988-Evolution-amp-Awakening-Required-Materials-Guide-*Updated-3-20-20*), a 6* Gunner awakening should cost 100 x 3* colourless evolution shards, 25 x 3* yellow evolution shards and 10 x colourless awakening shards. However, as you can see below, Osiris' awakening cost for 6* is 25 x 1* colourless awakening shard, 50 x 3* yellow evolutions shard and 25 x 1* gunner awakening shard, which was previously the cost to awaken from 6* to 7* (again, referring to your table posted in January and last updated in March)

Sorry to harp on about this but it's been mentioned in the previous event thread and bug reports section and has yet to have any feedback. Is this a simple fix and, if so, will it be included in the next update as one of the bug fixes?

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[Azile]

I agree. Clan Gold Souls should have better rewards. I have gotten 1 set of gates, 1 set of tower and 4 sets of warlods. Not cool.

They should drop premium sets like vipers, midgard, ygg, nifhlhem, etc...

Also consider reducing the cost of open clan Mythical Souls ... they are too expensive.

More ways to earn gold. Create a "Gold Dungeon" or something like that

I full support all these ideas. Clan souls cost to much to open. With the steady awakening chars and other gold sinks flying at us so fast, earning Ironite almost feels easier than earning gold.

I have been having the opposite experience with Clan Gold/Silver etc souls talismans as I have picked up Rags, Yggs, Valhalla and Labs last 4 souls from what I recall. Today's I received Gate set, which I did not mind because I did not have them yet. But I can see how the luck of the draw could easily go the other way.

So I agree it should be where Gold drops premium chase sets, Silver drops mid chase sets and Bronze Drops Clan sets or something like that.

Also, remove the 475 Ironite popup!

[Yup]

I have been having the opposite experience with Clan Gold/Silver etc souls talismans as I have picked up Rags, Yggs, Valhalla and Labs last 4 souls from what I recall. Today's I received Gate set, which I did not mind because I did not have them yet. But I can see how the luck of the draw could easily go the other way.

You sure you aren't confusing the Tribute souls there?? As far as I know the Clan Gold/Silver/Bronze Souls ONLY drop those in the clan store So Gate, Siege, Banner, Warlord, or Tower are the only possibilities.. they actually WON'T drop the rare sets. It's only the Tribute souls that drop the rare sets.

.. but maybe I'm mistaken.

[zamasu]

You sure you aren't confusing the Tribute souls there?? As far as I know the Clan Gold/Silver/Bronze Souls ONLY drop those in the clan store So Gate, Siege, Banner, Warlord, or Tower are the only possibilities.. they actually WON'T drop the rare sets. It's only the Tribute souls that drop the rare sets.

.. but maybe I'm mistaken.

Clan Medals do drop rare sets. YGG, Valhalla, Forged, Rags, etc. But mostly warlords gates and towers lol

[Alvorada]

Also consider reducing the cost of open clan Mythical Souls ... they are too expensive.

agree



More ways to earn gold. Create a "Gold Dungeon" or something like that

I'm not sure, but the daily/weekly dungeons are gold themed. Maybe update this feature minimize the problem.

[GrimDusk]

Alright, here are my thoughts!

Hellraiser Ed's fixes are nice, however he still is pretty weak overall.
GRE's Passive changing is actually not bad! Yes, he could remove ghost, but changing it from soul protect to perfect immortality means that an ally can die and respawn at full hp, rather than turn into a ghost for a turn and possibly be killed due to ghost being removed. In addition, Horrow actually being useful is good.
Charlotte's changes bring her in line with other gauntlet characters, but she still isn't gonna be necessarily useful at max level.
Crusader Eddie's changes are nice, however I am not a fan of when changes are to fit a specific niche such as fighting a specific raid boss. I hope the changes are useful outside of facing Baphomet.
Executioner Ed was not who I thought the first awakened assassin Ed would be, but I am happy regardless. Again, it appears he may be made to face Baphomet, which I do not like, but perhaps he will gain more effects and abilities than NotB did. Also, why does he use Hell Awakening shards? I mean yes, his song is from the NotB album, but Hallowed be Thy Name isn't really hell themed. Regardless, it's nice to see a 4 star Eddie join the awakened cast (I hope Beast is next though).
Prudence Talismans look like they could be extremely annoying if left unchecked for long. I hope they aren't in the arena souls only for a while, but who knows.
Banshee talisman getting nerfed is interesting, as I personally have had bad experiences facing off against teams that just become immune and won't die.

Overall, very good changes to see. I especially like the bonus context for each character change, makes the tuning notes make sense. One thing that I do want to see addressed is certain cosmic talismans being disabled with passive disable, such as Cosmic Lilith or Cosmic Horus. I have gotten doomed too many times due to a Cosmic Lilith talisman failing.

EDIT: Also, one new thing. Awakened characters getting more skill levels for their attacks, that's new. I wonder if that's gonna continue for older characters that are below 5 star rarity.

[Yup]

Regarding gold.. I think if they merely INCREASED the value of items being sold it would alleviate the issue for MANY players. I mean WHY are skill shards and cosmic talismans only worth 1000 gold when sold?? It makes selling them pointless for longer term players other than to simply clear out inventory.

[Ancient Mariner]

maybe i'm a little off topic here, but with the next updates is there any chance we're going to have the sweet old game speed when navigating the menu?

It's like it becomes slower everyday... lately it became a real pain to even simply swap talismans between 2 characters :(

It sometimes even freezes for a few seconds when i tap on something..that's not acceptable for a game where you're ALWAYS tapping and moving things in the menu

[URock]

Executioner Eddie? Ah..yes...one of the never used Eddies. Awakening won't change this. So much older Eddie's are waiting for a little buff. Increase their base stats and you're done.
Server capacity? GUI speed? Better rewards? Wrong translations?
Much work to do for the next years...

[Durandal_LOTB]

A correction to the sheet has been made for clarity to specify that Executioner Eddie will be using a new Medieval Themed Awakening Material.

Thank you for participating in this feedback thread as well, we have been taking note of everything thus far for discussion/investigation where applicable.

[hugoW]

Expand inventories from 600 to 666, lost a great event for it

[HuckFinn150]

I wish Run to the Hills would get awakened. He's still one of the best Ed's with hands down the best fury. Also, daily resets are making the many events tedious. I started a run and sat my phone down and came back to connection error. It was sitting for about 40 minutes like this. It's such a waste. Killing my battery with the screen on and wasting time to continue my initial run to complete my task and no time for my next.

[GrimDusk]

Oh, more new Awakening Materials? Interesting, but I just stocked up on Hell Shards so I am slightly disappointed. Otherwise, I imagine this paves the way for some other medieval characters? Awakened Hierophant?

[Yup]

yeah.. not a fan of yet another awakening material to collect.

How about a 4 star colorless awakening rune event???? :)

Or even 800 awakening frags for a 4/5 star colorless rune pack (no colored runes at all)... with more 4/5 star runes than the 1000 frag pack. could have like 4 4star and 2 5star runes in the pack.. could even throw in the lower star colorless runes as well.. with a frag price adjustment.

[DIEDD]

Can you add 1* colorless awakening materials to the store packs? I'm not a big fan of spending 500 ironite just to awake a character twice,would be a eally good addition, due to the increase of awakened characters, or at least consider reducing the cost of lol dungeon, believe me, not really worth farm 25 of these fragments for that amount of ironite.

[scimitar]

I will follow up with the team and suggest updating featured clan reward talismans sometime soon as your feedback is a valid concern.

Thanks for catching that formatting error too, it has since been fixed.

As for Wasteland Eddie, the team needs a bit more time to investigate and correct some of his unintended interactions. While his fixes wont be ready for this release, know that he hasn't been forgotten. Much love to any Aussies in the house.

I decided to write here. More likely to be heard.
In my bronze soul of the clan there were valhalla talis. It was the first soul, that is, two months have already passed. After the upgrade, the tower talis appeared there. There was another update, all the same.
Question: are the talis changing? If so, what kind of mechanics?
If not, then what the hell. Give me back my talis

[MuzakMaker]

Oh wow, another soul to clog up the book of souls that is already pushing its limits. Not to mention the odds are even worse than a normal rare soul.


Oh and it's yet another soul that looks EXACTLY the same as another for colour bind players.

[Yup]

Its free.

Gotta be a special kind of individual to bitch about free stuff.

[MuzakMaker]

Its free.

Gotta be a special kind of individual to bitch about free stuff.

I don't care if it's free or $20 million, after being told countless times by support that they take these colour blind issues seriously I'm going to call them out for adding yet another identical looking soul.

[MuzakMaker]

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To make matters worse this soul can apparently shove itself between a group of souls of one type.

Memorizing the order of souls and the knowledge that if I have X stacks of a certain soul, those souls will stay together is one of the few workarounds I have to use against the continued disregard to colour blind players.

And now that is gone too. Aether souls: 0/10 would not recommend