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Leviathan
12-27-2020, 12:06 AM
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Look who's coming to town! The Happy Holibeast is the fully skill sharded awakenable special edition version of The Beast. His passive Merry Beastmas makes him immune to all Naughty Effects and increases the accuracy of his allies!

Get full character details in the Compendium!

From now until January 7th at 4PM PT, battle in the Lord of Light (XI-XV) and Brave New World Dungeons for a chance at receiving Mysterious Gift Currency, and select Frontier Dungeons for guaranteed drops!

Mysterious Gift Currency is traded in the Store for rewards such as Eternally Burning Souls, Cosmic Oni Eddie Talismans, Cosmic Blight Talismans and more.

Note: At the end of this event, any unspent Currency will be automatically converted into Precious Soul Fragments at a 10% rate. See our Event Currency guide here for more details on the system overall:

Select Frontier Dungeons:

Guaranteed 10 Mysterious Gift Currency per run in the Samurai, Mystic Night, and Powerslave Frontier Dungeons
Guaranteed 15 Mysterious Gift Currency per run in the Labyrinth and Infernal Frontier Dungeons
Lord of Light floors XI-XV have a chance of dropping 10, 20, or 40 Mysterious Gift Currency per run

Brave New World:
Brave New World (all floors) have a chance of dropping 5, 10 , or 25 Mysterious Gift Currency per run



Eternally Burning Soul Details

The Eternally Burning Soul is a limited time event soul which guarantees a 3★ to 5★ character of any class with an exclusive chance at the 5★ Happy Holibeast and 4★ Hellraiser Eddie. This Soul also provides an increased chance at the following hell themed characters (the Warrior Hellhound, and the Sentinel and Magus Soulless Demons).



Complete Challenges to earn a variety of rewards including additional Mysterious Gift Currency, various Awakening Shards and Equilibrium Fragments.

Equilibrium Fragments are the event currency of our Forbidden Knowledge Clan Mega event that is running until January.

Trade your Equilibrium Fragments in the Event Store for rare rewards including Baphomet, Rare Talismans and more!

You can learn more about this featured event in the Forbidden Knowledge event post here! (https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?13883-Forbidden-Knowledge-Mega-Event-Info-and-Discussion)

IMPORTANT: Deadly Delivery is the FINAL Forbidden Knowledge associated event. Once this event ends you will no longer be able to collect Equilibrium Fragments!


Event Store Additions


Pick up the Merry Beastmas Pack! This bundle contains Assassin Awakening Shards, Gold, Ironite, Frontier Coins and 6 Festive Awakening Shards! It also contains a T2 Gold Cosmic Talisman with an Sulfur set-effect.
Grab an additional boost of Event Currency to trade for more items in the Event Store. This pack also contains Talisman Soul Fragments, Frontier Coins, Ironite and more!

GrimDusk
12-27-2020, 01:13 AM
The Holibeast looks kinda stupid but he is a Christmas character so I'm not expecting the coolest visual design. Oni Eddie's Cosmic finally being available is nice, though I do wonder what exactly took so long for us to get to this point.

It is annoying to see another character that is chance only, but as with Dark Advent Lilith, I'm not enraged that this special edition character is chance only because regular Beast is definitely the better of the two.

Overall, not the best event but it's nice to have that Oni bespoke.

Geodude
12-27-2020, 01:32 AM
It is annoying to see another character that is chance only, but as with Dark Advent Lilith, I'm not enraged that this special edition character is chance only because regular Beast is definitely the better of the two.

The lotb fb page says we can earn mysterious gift currency to trade for the holibeast. Well which is it? Guess I'll find out when I can get back in the game in 5 hours.

The Educated fool
12-27-2020, 02:13 AM
The lotb fb page says we can earn mysterious gift currency to trade for the holibeast. Well which is it? Guess I'll find out when I can get back in the game in 5 hours.

😂 I enjoy that optimism! This is the true spirit of the holidays. 😎

MuzakMaker
12-27-2020, 02:57 AM
Two straight luck characters and 3 straight weeks of grinds after an already grind heavy November.

These two events aren't even pay to win. They're pay "for the exclusive chance to win".

I try to find anything positive to say about this event and the last but I just can't.

RobG-9641
12-27-2020, 04:23 AM
Event Challenges Tab says “visit ANY Time Rift location...” ANY, but Tiny Time Dungeon, which DOES NOT count. That dungeon is in Time Rift and lasts 5 more days, and should count. Doesn’t have to drop Holibeast currency, but should count towards total Time Rift run goals. That’s just awful it doesn’t. Holibeast challenges last 11 days. If the goal is to get players to blow all their ironite chasing characters, just make them available for purchase with ironite, and save players the time and frustration...

Delegreg
12-27-2020, 10:07 AM
Shame !
Shame !
Shame !
Shame !

Mario.Ahner
12-27-2020, 10:17 AM
Another annoying "event"

URock
12-27-2020, 12:26 PM
Cool, because I missed the Cosmic Oni Talisman. Easy event. Nice!

Delegreg
12-27-2020, 12:40 PM
Cool, because I missed the Cosmic Oni Talisman. Easy event. Nice!

You didn't miss it, you just didn't buy it. And fyi, the easy part only nets you 2k currency, enjoy grinding for the rest man.

GotN
12-27-2020, 04:11 PM
Nothing more to add what Patrice said:

https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?14034-I-have-no-words

This is the worst Christmas Event they could have done! I also did my monthly donation to NF, but that stops right now! I will no longer support those rip offs! Hope, some others will follow, making them learn from it! One more time: I'm deeply disappointed from NFs behavior!

Fudjo
12-27-2020, 04:27 PM
I like this event.

kkkreg5
12-27-2020, 06:11 PM
It's back to the "good ol days" of burning your ironite for events souls and a minute chance at the big prize. Only now they've figured out how to make you burn more ironite than 900 for a ten pack. It now costs 2000 ironite for a ten pack. Oh sure you can grind for the "event" currency and use your ironite that way so that it doesn't feel a complete screw job that it actually is.

Remember they said this is the new way of the game. This new currency instead of fragments. We complained of too many fragments to keep track of. Well this is their solution. Be careful what you wish for...

Olevipoeg
12-27-2020, 06:56 PM
#worstchristmasever

Saigrim
12-27-2020, 07:29 PM
What? There’s another event with endless grinding and an infinitesimal chance pull for another character? Hmmm. I’ve hardly noticed.

Maiden
12-27-2020, 07:37 PM
I always tried to be as fair as possible and quite balanced to give opinions about events. Trying to pick up the positives points and not only let downs. But you are making it really hard this time...

Opening souls with no currency frags inside in order to look for toons only obtainable by luck is a poor decision. One that usually only leads to frustration. Even if you pulled the featured toon after days of trying. The new currency system may work if the currency is inside the souls that you ask us to buy. Or if you eliminate this frustrating only-by-luck new system. Which is increased here because these toons will not be available until next Holiday Season and are tied to achievements.

Does someone really need these toons? Of course no but, nobody really needs to play a game, you play it because it is enjoyable, gives you goals feelings and fun. Not because you really need a toon with a Candy Cane... but by pulling that away you are killing the simplest things that make the game a game... and pressing instead on the gambling side, which I personally dislike and find disgusting.

I thought that Tiny Revenge Dungeon wasn't a bad event, just one with a bad decision (D.A. Lilith) I have already learned a lesson there. I wasted more than 10k Ironite chasing a toon. The rewards in change for those souls are absolute of no value for players that invested a lot last Holiday Session grinding for Scrooge Eddie. I have done more than 3000 runs and I have nothing to show for that. I will not do it again, nobody forced me to play it but you didn't reach the simplest concept of the game neither: making me want to play more.

The only positive thing I can find in this particular event is if you want to farm and play your luck, you can chose where to do it and complete your personal achievements or look for materials you might need in BNW or Lol, or whatever. Only that makes the event better than Tiny Revenge.

I personally will go for a talisman and then calling it off. Hope you take the overall feedback and keep improving the game. I'm still waiting eagerly for Avalon and having optimism there. Thks.

BillLion
12-27-2020, 10:23 PM
I like this event.

Masochist.

Fudjo
12-27-2020, 10:30 PM
Masochist.

Hardly. I have a billion gold and over 50K Ironite. I'd be an asshole if I complained about not getting a toon.

Tsuketa
12-27-2020, 10:39 PM
Let's review what we got in December.
1) A high level Eddie (Christmas Cyborg). He was challenging to get, but there was a guaranteed route to getting him.
2) A new Yeti character who was really easy to get and who takes the Sinister Solstice bespoke that makes him an important component in beating Baph10. I got 15 of them. Total game changer.
3) A new Eddie with a fairly unique design (Icy Eddie). He was extremely expensive, but you had a guaranteed path to get him.
4) Tiny/Terrible Tim, who was so easy to get, you just had to do the thing you probably do every day anyway.
5) 12 days of free stuff, ranging from small amounts of currency to a reasonably good talisman set, to free 5 free shots at christmas characters.
6) A reasonable drop rate on various Christmas themed characters (reindeer, elves, snowmen, nutcrackers, ghosts, krampuses, and eddies) with an easy grind to give lots of shots at them.
7) Dark Advent Lilith. Yes, having no guaranteed path to getting her is frustrating, but there were a bunch of characters this month with guaranteed paths to. Plus, although her outfit is really cool, she's not significantly better than OG Dark Lilith, and there's a surefire way to get her.
8) The Holiday Beast. Again, no guaranteed way to get him and frustration, but he's not significantly better than the real Beast, and there's an extremely easy way to get him. The Holiday Beast's biggest benefit over OG Beast is that he can take Sinister Solstice and is thus a Baph10 character, but with the easy Yetis, that's not very significant.
9) The Oni bespoke! Any interest in the Holiday Beast evaporated when I saw that I could get that. Easy, easy choice on which one to go for there.

So, there were a wide variety of ways to get a large number of different characters this month. It seems that they tried to please a wide variety of people. Someone who doesn't have the roster or the patience for 5 max awakened LoL, you've got a gambler's chance at getting a shortcut to Dark Lilith. Someone who hates non-guaranteed paths to characters, you got a few. Someone who doesn't like expensive characters, you got a few as well. Someone who likes to flex a little achieving something most people couldn't, you were covered too.

Maybe the "problem" is that they gave us too much stuff this month? You don't have to get everything, you know? Stuff will come back around. You'll get more capable of acquiring things the more you play. Etc.

The month was far from an unmitigated success. The frequently unstable servers were a serious pain. But you don't have to tell the devs that you don't like that problem. I guarantee that they like it less. Because where you didn't get to play for hours after each update, they had to work from 4pm to sometimes midnight trying to fix it rather than spending time with their families. They certainly didn't make their server unstable on purpose or out of "laziness."

All in all, I think December was fun. I would approve of a few "lighter" months where they focused on infrastructure and stability rather than new characters, but I definitely got more enjoyment than frustration out of the month.

Geodude
12-27-2020, 11:02 PM
Hmm, I don't find ENDLESS grinding, event after event, fun at all, along with their increasingly pay/gamble to win offerings seemingly the norm now. Couple that with non-stop server errors and downtime, unfixed ever-mounting bugs for years, ridiculous non-existent customer support, etc, etc. Um where's the fun again??? Time for a new game. This is shit.

Leviathan
12-27-2020, 11:17 PM
Event Challenges Tab says “visit ANY Time Rift location...” ANY, but Tiny Time Dungeon, which DOES NOT count. That dungeon is in Time Rift and lasts 5 more days, and should count. Doesn’t have to drop Holibeast currency, but should count towards total Time Rift run goals. That’s just awful it doesn’t. Holibeast challenges last 11 days. If the goal is to get players to blow all their ironite chasing characters, just make them available for purchase with ironite, and save players the time and frustration...

Hi there Rob! We had initially intended the challenges to just be run in the permanent Time Rift locations (I.e. Lord of Light and Brave New World). To reduce any confusion however we have just adjusted these challenges to include Tiny Tim’s dungeon as well moving forward. Cheers!

MuzakMaker
12-27-2020, 11:23 PM
Softens the blow of the gambling. Not a lot, but at least I'm getting a little extra out of my slot machine pulls

MarkyMark
12-28-2020, 01:10 AM
7) Dark Advent Lilith. Yes, having no guaranteed path to getting her is frustrating, but there were a bunch of characters this month with guaranteed paths to. Plus, although her outfit is really cool, she's not significantly better than OG Dark Lilith, and there's a surefire way to get her.
8) The Holiday Beast. Again, no guaranteed way to get him and frustration, but he's not significantly better than the real Beast, and there's an extremely easy way to get him. The Holiday Beast's biggest benefit over OG Beast is that he can take Sinister Solstice and is thus a Baph10 character, but with the easy Yetis, that's not very significant.


I think the big issue here was that there were not one but two characters that were only obtainable by chance, and the odds (at least on Dark Advent Lilith, I haven't checked Holibeast yet) were ~0.36% per soul, making it an exercise in pure luck that favoured players with more resources that could afford to grind for more chances (let's not forget that it is a pretty expensive dungeon to run in terms of SOT). It's a fair bet that this is probably the only way these characters will be obtainable until next Xmas. Pretty much every other time there's been a character that was only obtainable via chance from event souls (e.g. Wasteland Eddie, Czar Eddie), there's been a reasonable chance they'll pop up in heroics eventually. Or where there were two new characters that were available from event souls, there was at least a guaranteed path to one of them at the time (e.g. Borte and Skuld).

I agree there was a lot of good stuff in December, and the devs would've been even less happy than us about the server instability. But we've had two characters (Cosmic Cyborg and Ice Eddie) that required serious, expensive grind to get, and then we've gotten two more characters that in most cases also required an even harder, more expensive grind, unless you happened to get extremely lucky, with the possibility of no reward whatsoever. If it was up to me, I would've either ordered the events differently or increased the drop rate of Lilith and Holibeast to something like 1-2%.

MarkyMark
12-28-2020, 04:36 AM
I just realised there's another gotcha here too. It's actually impossible to MA all the Xmas toons unless you were buying festive awakening shards for ironite right from the start.

There were enough available from event currency purchases to MA Cosmic Cyborg, Tim and Lilith. But assuming you need 6 to MA Holibeast... there's none available in the event store for that event, and only 3 for purchase with ironite from the Tiny Tim event. So unless you bought shards for ironite from an earlier event (like the Cyborg one)... you're stuck with not enough festive shards to MA all 4 event toons. Unless of course you spend actual money on the Holibeast event pack.

Fudjo
12-28-2020, 05:05 AM
But assuming you need 6 to MA Holibeast... there's none available in the event store for that event, and only 3 for purchase with ironite from the Tiny Tim event.

The Tiny Tim event items are per month and they're in the store for four more days. Depending on how the clock works for the store, they might be purchasable again on Jan 1.

GotN
12-28-2020, 06:51 AM
Hi there Rob! We had initially intended the challenges to just be run in the permanent Time Rift locations (I.e. Lord of Light and Brave New World). To reduce any confusion however we have just adjusted these challenges to include Tiny Tim’s dungeon as well moving forward. Cheers!

Hey Leviathan,

Thank you very much for adding this dungeon to new event! This is very welcome! Question: there is no Mysterious Gift Currency dropping here. Is that intended or just by mistake and you are going to add it? Would be great! :cool: Thanks again!

Brickster
12-28-2020, 08:29 AM
I just realised there's another gotcha here too. It's actually impossible to MA all the Xmas toons unless you were buying festive awakening shards for ironite right from the start.

There were enough available from event currency purchases to MA Cosmic Cyborg, Tim and Lilith. But assuming you need 6 to MA Holibeast... there's none available in the event store for that event, and only 3 for purchase with ironite from the Tiny Tim event. So unless you bought shards for ironite from an earlier event (like the Cyborg one)... you're stuck with not enough festive shards to MA all 4 event toons. Unless of course you spend actual money on the Holibeast event pack.

I've noticed the same, but I think the pack that offers a shard for 300 ironite with a maximum of 3 per month will be available until January 1st or 2nd, so if you're missing 6 shards you can still buy those for a total of 1800 ironite.
But who's gonna farm for Holibeast?

Olevipoeg
12-28-2020, 12:14 PM
I think the big issue here was that there were not one but two characters that were only obtainable by chance, and the odds (at least on Dark Advent Lilith, I haven't checked Holibeast yet) were ~0.36% per soul, making it an exercise in pure luck that favoured players with more resources that could afford to grind for more chances (let's not forget that it is a pretty expensive dungeon to run in terms of SOT). It's a fair bet that this is probably the only way these characters will be obtainable until next Xmas. Pretty much every other time there's been a character that was only obtainable via chance from event souls (e.g. Wasteland Eddie, Czar Eddie), there's been a reasonable chance they'll pop up in heroics eventually. Or where there were two new characters that were available from event souls, there was at least a guaranteed path to one of them at the time (e.g. Borte and Skuld).

I agree there was a lot of good stuff in December, and the devs would've been even less happy than us about the server instability. But we've had two characters (Cosmic Cyborg and Ice Eddie) that required serious, expensive grind to get, and then we've gotten two more characters that in most cases also required an even harder, more expensive grind, unless you happened to get extremely lucky, with the possibility of no reward whatsoever. If it was up to me, I would've either ordered the events differently or increased the drop rate of Lilith and Holibeast to something like 1-2%.

Holibeast drop rate is 0.12% per soul. And NF even put up achivements for Lilitith and Holibeast so it will rub salt to your wounds every time you open achivements.

Delegreg
12-28-2020, 02:35 PM
Hi there Rob! We had initially intended the challenges to just be run in the permanent Time Rift locations (I.e. Lord of Light and Brave New World). To reduce any confusion however we have just adjusted these challenges to include Tiny Tim’s dungeon as well moving forward. Cheers!

Oh, so it was confusion that made you react ?

Maybe you could explain the choice of luck-only event characters, to avoid further confusion ?

Because a lot of people are really confused by this, to the point of quitting the game, and it's been going on for over a week...

But not including tiny Tim's dungeon in time rift challenge was the real source of confusion and you had to react immediately...

This is not what we call listening to the community, this is weak ass damage control.

Saigrim
12-28-2020, 04:20 PM
Oh, so it was confusion that made you react ?

Maybe you could explain the choice of luck-only event characters, to avoid further confusion ?

Because a lot of people are really confused by this, to the point of quitting the game, and it's been going on for over a week...

But not including tiny Tim's dungeon in time rift challenge was the real source of confusion and you had to react immediately...

This is not what we call listening to the community, this is weak ass damage control.

Yeah, I also had to laugh when I saw this. No mention of anything else that might have cleared up everyone’s confusion. Can’t really say I was confused though. Nothing they do surprises me anymore.

The simple truth is they’re floundering around in the dark, trying to figure out how to get people to spend money on this app, or for those of us who do spend, spend more. Problem is, actions like this bring the opposite effect they were hoping for.

Happy customers spend....

At least that’s how I’ve been operating where this games concerned.

Saigrim
12-28-2020, 05:08 PM
And to add insult to injury, I was one of those idiots who bought a $30 Awakening Pack during the Cosmic Eddie Event, because I had a feeling there just wouldn’t be quite enough awakening materials for all the characters. I have twelve candy canes just chillin in my inventory. Jokes on me. Lesson learned.

MuzakMaker
12-29-2020, 05:45 AM
It's probably too late to fix this poorly thought out (for the players) event and especially too late to do anything about the Dark Advent Lillith Dungeon.

My hope right now is that they see how poor the reception has been and do some tweaking to an upcoming event (and a close one at that) in which they bring back DALi and the Hollibeast as stretch goals. The Baphomet mega event including the Holiday talismans is proof already that they'll throw unrelated rewards in to an event.

Because, if they haven't managed to lose the rest of us long term players by next Christmas, I don't see too many of us trying our luck for them an even more bloated christmas soul pool 12 months from now.

velikaros
12-29-2020, 10:07 AM
5550 пробежек это 133200 песка и 33300 айронита. Лилит так и нет...

MarkyMark
12-29-2020, 07:41 PM
Holibeast drop rate is 0.12% per soul. And NF even put up achivements for Lilitith and Holibeast so it will rub salt to your wounds every time you open achivements.

That's horrible. I hadn't checked the maths yet as I figured I would use the opportunity to knock off a few dungeon achievements I had left. Looks like that's all I'll be bothering to do.

Tsuketa
12-29-2020, 08:49 PM
Definitely get the Oni bespoke before you spend any effort on Holibeast. It's, by far, the more valuable reward, and is straightforward to get.

HuckFinn150
12-29-2020, 08:58 PM
I was just thinking. I wonder if there is more than 50 people who actually play this game. I'm pretty sure must of us put it in auto and set the phone down and walk away.

Tsuketa
12-30-2020, 12:12 AM
HuckFinn, I'm a mix. I play the raid bosses, and I play Arena and Gauntlet, and I play through the first time manually on new dungeons, but I also autoplay the heck out of everything else.

HuckFinn150
12-30-2020, 01:33 AM
I'm the same here.

URock
12-30-2020, 12:52 PM
You didn't miss it, you just didn't buy it. And fyi, the easy part only nets you 2k currency, enjoy grinding for the rest man.
Talisman T3 is done!
Easy!

GrimDusk
01-07-2021, 08:36 PM
Well, the event ends tonight. My opinion on it initially was that yeah, it sucks that the Holibeast is exclusive to the souls, but we could just grind for him. After Dark Shores occurred though, I do not feel as optimistic. The events overlapped, and both of them required serious grinding for the chase characters.

I really hope this isn't a trend in 2021. Characters that are chance only aren't fun. Taking fragments out of event souls like with Dark Shores is also not a fun trend to see.

I know at the end of the day, the game is trying to make money. I get that. But if the game is going to make money off of us, then I would at least appreciate events that give us more than just grinding? I'm not sure what that would look like. Just, take it into consideration? Please?

Nifelheim
01-07-2021, 10:39 PM
If the event was renamed “battle for the oni cosmic talisman”, everyone’s attitude would be the opposite. Endless thanks and praise for the guaranteed cosmic previously behind a paywall instead of anxiety of the possibility of the chance/no guarantee being the norm.

MuzakMaker
01-07-2021, 11:17 PM
If it helps them, I had set aside some money for the ending of the bap mega event, that 5 set talisman package with yggs and rags, the intro to Avalon event and those $1 ironite packs

These pure gambling events cost the game at least $123 USD .

Geodude
01-07-2021, 11:33 PM
I got the oni talisman, and some of the toons, but ran out of time to get some of the extras that I really wanted, banner, blight, etc, because I was bogged down grinding for knight, merlin, etc. And of course you decided to overlap these two heavy grinding events as usual. Not sure why you keep overlapping events like this at all, since it heavily impacts server performance, and our enjoyment of the game. We have jobs and lives. Spread out the grinds so we have enough time to get what we want!

AndyCatzo
01-08-2021, 02:02 AM
I opened 205 souls for this event and all I got were 3 hellraiser Eddie's and all others were 4* and 3* characters, not a single 5* and of course no Holibeast