Introducing LOTB's Lead Designer + Upcoming Features and Fixes

[Kaz_LOTB]

Hi I'm Kaz, the lead designer on LOTB.

A little about me, I've been in the industry about 12 years and have worked on a wide variety of projects, from smaller mobile and indie games like Profit Motive and Spy Wars to large scale console titles, such as the Prototype franchise. As I mentioned in a post yesterday, our team continues to work on overall game health and bug fixing. Here are some details:



Tuning: Within the next few weeks we will be releasing a build focused on character tuning and balancing as well as reward drop rates. The goal there is to increase the viability of many underpowered characters and fix the abuse cases of certain effects in the game (such as Accuracy). We are also looking to give players better access to higher tier evolution materials so they have more opportunity to build out a greater variety of teams.


Bug Fixes: We are looking into the issues players on Android 7 are experiencing and hope to have a solution soon. Our team is also currently working on the freezing and crashing we’re seeing in battles and improvements to the stability of the inventory system.


New Content and Game Modes: There is a lot of awesome new content coming down the pipe, including a set of new and powerful Eddies, which can be earned directly via Trooper Badges, clearing Daily Challenges (coming soon), and by competing with other players in the Arena. Speaking of which, here’s a quick sneak peek of what PvP has in store:


https://youtu.be/QqXHlJZEA8Y

In addition, all new worlds and characters are well into production and will start rolling out later this year.


So, there’s a lot in the works as you can see and we look forward to sharing more specifics with you as we near each release.

Finally, on behalf of the LOTB team, I’d just like to give a big thanks to this community. Your passion for the game truly inspires us and keeps us working hard to make it as awesome as possible.

Stay tuned for more news in the coming weeks!

-Kaz

[Vaseodin]

Yay! Thanks for the update! Vs. Mode looks amazing!

[jpmusic]

YAAAAAAAY!!!!! :D Kaz, you have earned my respect. Looking forward to all of the new features! Up the irons!

[maxdeviations]

this sounds great Kaz, i have said this before that eddies should be given out as rewards and not just from random drops. from your comment above i guess this will be the case now -

"There is a lot of awesome new content coming down the pipe, including a set of new and powerful Eddies, which can be earned directly via Trooper Badges, clearing Daily Challenges (coming soon), and by competing with other players in the Arena"

PS - prototype was a killer game. Cheers

[AmBush-UK]

Thanks for the update Kaz




Tuning: Within the next few weeks we will be releasing a build focused on character tuning and balancing as well as reward drop rates.

Does this include the characters from souls too? as they have been atrocious lately Im aware of the use of RNG in games but the best character i had drop was the 4* Gunner DESERT MARAUDER from a Legendary soul :(
One of my troopers has 10+ Speed of light Eddies 5+ Mummy Eddies amd many more is this purely due to him spending more?

[Kaz_LOTB]

Thanks for the update Kaz



Does this include the characters from souls too? as they have been atrocious lately Im aware of the use of RNG in games but the best character i had drop was the 4* Gunner DESERT MARAUDER from a Legendary soul :(
One of my troopers has 10+ Speed of light Eddies 5+ Mummy Eddies amd many more is this purely due to him spending more?

With some of the new tuning updates and modes (especially daily challenges), you will have more opportunities to earn rare characters. In terms of the drop rates themselves, the repeats at each tier are mainly a result of the amount of content in the game, which we are currently in the process of expanding. We also have a feature in the works called "Sacrifice", which will allow you to make use of duplicate characters to earn rare rewards, including Legendary Souls, giving you even more opportunities to obtain high tier characters.

-Kaz

[MetalWarrior]

We also have a feature in the works called "Sacrifice", which will allow you to make use of duplicate characters to earn rare rewards, including Legendary souls, giving you even more opportunities to obtain high tier characters.

-Kaz

Amazing! Every cloud has a silver lining :o

[Dutch]

Wow that's awesome news kaz thanks!

[AmBush-UK]

With some of the new tuning updates and modes (especially daily challenges), you will have more opportunities to earn rare characters. In terms of the drop rates themselves, the repeats at each tier are mainly a result of the amount of content in the game, which we are currently in the process of expanding. We also have a feature in the works called "Sacrifice", which will allow you to make use of duplicate characters to earn rare rewards, including Legendary Souls, giving you even more opportunities to obtain high tier characters.

-Kaz1095


Amazing! Every cloud has a silver lining :o
Ineed it does

[Nicko]

We also have a feature in the works called "Sacrifice", which will allow you to make use of duplicate characters to earn rare rewards, including Legendary Souls, giving you even more opportunities to obtain high tier characters.

-Kaz

I've already "sacrificed" my dupes for gold!

Oh well:D

Thanks for the update and looking forward to the new content!

[OpticSugar]

This all sounds fantastic. Kaz, you are our knight in shining iron. There has been a lot of panic going around these forums in the past few weeks. This is because this community loves this game very much - and they don't want to see it wither and die. Your latest update is like an oasis in the kingdom of the sands - and it addresses most of the concerns that we all have - the primariy concern being "does this game have a future?".

The answer: YES... and this future looks pretty damn exciting.
Thanks for touching base with us. We look forward to seeing how this incredible game evolves.

\m/

[The Educated fool]

Thanks a lot for the update. Seriously... it sounds almost too good to be true. :cool:

[Kaijester]

Hurray~⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐


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[aur0ra85]

Sounds good thank you for the update and the sneak peak.

[Coletrain]

Great news all around, a much appreciated update on the status of development.

[PsychoEddie]

Hi I'm Kaz, the lead designer on LOTB.

A little about me, I've been in the industry about 12 years and have worked on a wide variety of projects, from smaller mobile and indie games like Profit Motive and Spy Wars to large scale console titles, such as the Prototype franchise. As I mentioned in a post yesterday, our team continues to work on overall game health and bug fixing. Here are some details:

[LIST]

Tuning: Within the next few weeks we will be releasing a build focused on character tuning and balancing as well as reward drop rates. The goal there is to increase the viability of many underpowered characters and fix the abuse cases of certain effects in the game (such as Accuracy). We are also looking to give players better access to higher tier evolution materials so they have more opportunity to build out a greater variety of teams.


Thanks for the update!

I, myself, would like to see changelogs posted somewhere for new builds. For example, I'd rather read first that some significant stats have been changed for a character vs jumping into a battle and losing a bunch of sands of time because I didn't know a specific stat had been changed.

Plus, it would give those who (thanks to you who do!) track and list stats an easy way to update their charts/etc.

[aur0ra85]

For the sake of transparency, I'm going to point this out here and now about the drop rates: I did a rough estimate of a rare talisman drop post August update and a rare talisman was approximately 1 out of 100 talismans. The good talismans are located in kingdom of sands and there are 11 in total. If you'd like a matched set of thief talismans for example, the odds are 1:11 every time a rare talisman drops, or approx 10% of the time a rare talisman drops it will be of the variety you are looking for. That's a rate of 1/1000ish every time a talisman drops. Now what is the rate that which talismans drop versus games played? Idk exactly but I'm guessing it's 1/5ish. In short, on average, that's 5000 matches in kingdom of sands to come up with a single thief talisman of a particular variety. A matched set is 15,000 matches.
Granted, if you played 15,000 matches in kingdom of sands, you should come up with matched sets of all rare talismans, but if you're looking for one set in particular those are my guesstimate odds. One set has become mythical: the assassin barrier, I've only seen a handful total in the game out of all the players combined, and I'm guessing the majority were found prior August update.
Not a great investment of time imo. Even if I'm underestimating the drop rate by a factor of 10, that's still 1500 games played to match a set of rare talismans ->which still need to be upgraded to 5 stars at like 1,000,000 gold each and 9 3 star rainbow runes each. They might as well not exist.
Maybe I'll post numbers on the rainbow shards and runes at another time.

[vgta99]

Thanks of your explication and description of what we will have in a future, Aur0ra and Kaz!
That's sounds great!
Any idea if we will have a trade market to change characters and some stuffs with the community?

[slauki]

thanks a lot for the update, we are all looking forward to the changes you have mentioned. Seems, that you listen to the community, and this feels pretty good.

[osogaru]

thank you for the news ! the game is on the good way (and still hope the IOS crashes will be fixed soon :)) thank you )

[Vertax616]

Thanks a lot for the detailed update and sneak peak! Arena looks amazing. I really appreciate the communication.

[BillLion]

It sounds like some very positive steps are in place and that there is a lot go great new content and rewards to look forward to.

Thank you so much, Kaz!

And if I can encourage you guys as the dev team -please keep in regular communication here. Even if it's just a few words or details periodically it means a lot and helps keep us natives from getting too restless. ;)

[Demoness-9720]

Oh no ...bringing out more good stuff to feed my gaming addictions.....would happen when the new Destiny DLC is out soon...oh it's too much! This game is disgustingly addictive, how very dare you. :p

[MuadDib-7367]

Exciting news. Sounds like it's time to horde trooper badges....

[LegoMech]

This is awesome news!

[Gourmet]

Thanks for fhe update, kaz. Love the ideas. I really think you are all onto something special with this game, so keep it up!

[Nekroliun]

Omagad, exciting news apeared! I'd be willing to gather 15k trooper badges for a grim reaper eddie. Cuz dats a good deal

[lightningzero]

This is awesome cant wait for new stages and characters this is what we needed

[jakalope]

Thanks for the update Kaz. Up until now, both communication and customer service has been abysmal. Here's hoping it becomes more of a priority to build the game and your brand.

Love the game.

[Bryan-3528]

Thank you for the info Kaz and welcome to the forum!


...We are looking into the issues players on Android 7 are experiencing and hope to have a solution soon.

Hope this one happens sooner than later. It makes me sad when I see trooper friends on my list that cannot log in for the last 2 weeks or more.



...and fix the abuse cases of certain effects in the game (such as Accuracy).

Shout out to Gonzo for originally asking this to be addressed, I miss that trooper!

[goochklok]

Oh no ...bringing out more good stuff to feed my gaming addictions.....would happen when the new Destiny DLC is out soon...oh it's too much! This game is disgustingly addictive, how very dare you. :p

I was thinking the same thing hahaha I've been excited for rise of iron for a while and that's definitely gonna pull me away for a bit. I will however try to make time for this game still ;)

[Ancient Mariner]

will the next "sacrifice" feature work only with 3* characters and higher ones?
Quoting myself here

[Schadenfreud-0217]

I have a feeling that arena will be 1st to attack = winner >.> (especially if you have a maxed out Corrupt General).

[Ancient Mariner]

I have a feeling that arena will be 1st to attack = winner >.> (especially if you have a maxed out Corrupt General).
even number of rounds? :rolleyes:

[aur0ra85]

I really liked someone else's idea on how to balance first round advantage: let the player with the second turn pick their team knowing the team of the opponent. ;)

[oldrava-3320]

I have a feeling that arena will be 1st to attack = winner >.> (especially if you have a maxed out Corrupt General).


3 chars its a key to the game
1.corrept general
2.child of the damned
3.samurai eddie
If you had these 3 together you cant loss, they are key chars of the game in my opinion

[Olevipoeg]

3 chars its a key to the game
1.corrept general
2.child of the damned
3.samurai eddie
If you had these 3 together you cant loss, they are key chars of the game in my opinion
It's not so simple. This team is very attack oriented. Player team chars have much more hp-s than computer chars. Attack only corrupted general have 13K hp and will not survive next round without extra protection spells. For example building high hp Vampire Hunter Eddie team can resurrect all his team on next round.

[Nekroliun]

It's not so simple. This team is very attack oriented. Player team chars have much more hp-s than computer chars. Attack only corrupted general have 13K hp and will not survive next round without extra protection spells. For example building high hp Vampire Hunter Eddie team can resurrect all his team on next round.

Imo pharoah eddie has a fury (i dont think i need to explain more)

[BillLion]

Imo pharoah eddie has a fury (i dont think i need to explain more)

Shhhhh...I want to surprise them in the arena ;)

[Ddrak]

In pvp I think defending team should have a defensive shield on for the first round (or we'll need all to find a Warrior Troll and hope the attacker doesn't play the Prisoner).

[Nekroliun]

Shhhhh...I want to surprise them in the arena ;)

Dont worry your secret is not safe with me ;)

Also whoever has the prisoner is prob gonna dominate, hes like the new dr.boom

[aur0ra85]

I feel like Pharoah is going to dominate the arena, as he's one of the only Eddie's that's going to survive a first turn by the opponent. Same with visions Eddie. My samurai sadly, is going to have a rough time if he doesn't attack first. I don't feel soldier Eddie is going to be a meta character, same with all the blue eddies.

[Nekroliun]

Visions will be powerful imo, his stun while not so useful in pve cod possibly win you many games in pvp!

Its bad cuz if he dies your whole team dies, but that is not a rule in pvp, lets say red bat, nomad and a child of the damned... Visions uses his fury, he gets stunned for 2 and enemies for 1, then get an enemy low and kill one of your oponnent's chars with the COTD, everyone gets an extra turn and You kill someone else with COTD and hit one of the two last standing with COTD, then after your turn ends it doesnt cuz u stunned your oponnent's team!!! OP (and i think visions would get 1 less stun duration if he gets an extra turn that makes his fury even more powerful!

[Vaseodin]

A good way for PvP to be fair would be to give 1 turn for 1 character to each player at a time (unless they have a skill that grants extra turns).

For example, my team of Mummy Eddie, assassin golden son, and sentinel demon vs. a samurai eddie with 2 children of the damned (warrior). Golden son attacks first, then a child of the damned from opposing team attacks and kills my golden son and gets an extra turn, attacking my Mummy Eddie. Next, it's my Mummy's turn. Etc.

Not sure how complicated that would be, but it would certainly (in my opinion) be more interesting than battles that end in 1 turn.

I don't know. Just throwing an idea out there.

[BillLion]

I feel like Pharoah is going to dominate the arena, as he's one of the only Eddie's that's going to survive a first turn by the opponent. Same with visions Eddie. My samurai sadly, is going to have a rough time if he doesn't attack first. I don't feel soldier Eddie is going to be a meta character, same with all the blue eddies.

But there are ways around him...

However, I doubt most people will build their teams for that since he'll be less common than many other Eddies they'll be encountering.

[aur0ra85]

But there are ways around him...

However, I doubt most people will build their teams for that since he'll be less common than many other Eddies they'll be encountering.
Beating a Pharoah and negating his fury isn't hard, but then you've got to carve through that 50k HP... Samurai can do it, but it's going to take two or three turns and he has to be able to survive the first round to get defensive buffs up ->which isn't easy.

[BillLion]

Beating a Pharoah and negating his fury isn't hard, but then you've got to carve through that 50k HP... Samurai can do it, but it's going to take two or three turns and he has to be able to survive the first round to get defensive buffs up ->which isn't easy.

That's a good point. But your Cyborg Eddie does some fierce damage...pair him with an alliance general and watch out!

[aur0ra85]

Cyborg is squishy too... I have build(s) I'm contemplating for PvP, unfortunately I don't have most of the characters I want. If the characters are marginally easier to obtain after the update, there's some hope.

[MuadDib-7367]

I'm hoping that a new Eddie (Trooper?) becomes a PvP monster as I don't have any of the premium Eddies since I seem to attract only PDKs when I hit the jackpot on a rare soul..........

[Nekroliun]

I'm hoping that a new Eddie (Trooper?) becomes a PvP monster as I don't have any of the premium Eddies since I seem to attract only PDKs when I hit the jackpot on a rare soul..........

I wish trooper eddie is be good, i need a good eddie, i only have soldier which is not that good

[Malcifar-8940]

All very exciting news!! The sacrifice feature is something I was really hoping for. Also, the alternate methods of getting eddies. But the new levels and game modes are going to be by far the most welcome addition! So glad to see the game continuing to expand!

[Nekroliun]

All very exciting news!! The sacrifice feature is something I was really hoping for. Also, the alternate methods of getting eddies. But the new levels and game modes are going to be by far the most welcome addition! So glad to see the game continuing to expand!


Oh yea! I forgot they are adding levels...

[BillLion]

Oh yea! I forgot they are adding levels...

Can't wait, but I don't think we know when that will be yet. Just the tuning update that is coming later this week (at the earliest), right? I think new content (at least PVP) will be in the update after that if I understood Sparton correctly.

[Ringe666-7406]

That's a good point. But your Cyborg Eddie does some fierce damage...pair him with an alliance general and watch out!

But not everyone has him, right? He is one of the rarest... I cannot even get CR, god forbid Samurai, Pharaoh or the assassin ones :/

[Vaseodin]

All very exciting news!! The sacrifice feature is something I was really hoping for. Also, the alternate methods of getting eddies. But the new levels and game modes are going to be by far the most welcome addition! So glad to see the game continuing to expand!

Yeah I'm crossing my fingers that some choice will be involved in regards to what you get in return for your sacrifice. I have waaay too many characters I don't care for and not enough of the ones I do. I wish trading was a thing, because I know many would be ok getting my 3 warrior children of the Damned in exchange for some sentinel soulless demons.

[OpticSugar]

Yeah I'm crossing my fingers that some choice will be involved in regards to what you get in return for your sacrifice. I have waaay too many characters I don't care for and not enough of the ones I do. I wish trading was a thing, because I know many would be ok getting my 3 warrior children of the Damned in exchange for some sentinel soulless demons.

You might have just inspired me to upgrade my sentinel Soulless Demon next... I still don't have any Damned Children.

[Witkacy]

I would like that the game be more balanced - I've got couple great characters (The Nomad, Pharaoh Dog King, Corrupt General), yet have only one good Eddie - Carriage Rider... Sure I am pleased of what I've got, yet despite I've managed to finish game some time ago - I haven't got a chance even to try quite bunch of Eddies... I know that Eddies are rare and exclusive on purpose, yet if there's be a chance to get any of them even 3* and have a chance to evolve them - that would keep me busy and be great. Thanks :)

[Ringe666-7406]

I thought of that too... Give me rare Eddies even 1*... It would be my pleasure to upgrade and evolve them from zero to hero :D

[Eagleknight]

Kind of a rant.

I actually thought about getting eddies at 1* but if that were the case then they wouldn't be rare everyone would have them. I have been reading allot of posts with some great ideas but if I was able to get all the toons right away or have every toon be powerful the game would be too easy and boring. I like that you have to work to get a powerful toon and I do thing that some toons should be better then others. If you spend the time farming or get lucky it should be special that you got a great toon. In pvp in each meta there is always going to be a certain make up that will dominate for a while. The only way to make pvp "fair" is for everyone to have the exact same toon pool like in chess. This game is rng based meaning luck and playtime play a large role in the strength of a players team. The rng is really bad on toon draws out of 100 rare souls turned in at once I got 14 green allied soldiers and 12 corrupt owl cultists that's allot of dupes of the same toon out of 100 shards. So when you do get rare toon it should stand out. I want the game not to be easy but challenging and I want skill and effort to play a role in pvp. I believe that is what the devs are trying to provide us. Just be careful in what you ask for some changes made to make people happy could really end the fun and challenge of this game.

Not directed at anyone just my thoughts.

Also, I should not have posted this here as thei is where we do most of the communications with the devs. Sorry.

[Aristo4]

Eagle, what are the characters your are after nowadays? I mean theres not much left that you don't have :p

[Eagleknight]

Eagle, what are the characters your are after nowadays? I mean theres not much left that you don't have :p

Basically all the rare toons samurai, red cotd, both generals, cyborg, prisoner for a few. I can say the rng is bad by the amount of rare souls I have turned in. But to be honest I'm not complaining that I don't have them I just think that the people that do have them should have an advantage over the people that don't. Those toons are rare so they should be better, if they are given the right tailismans. This is not the type of game were every toon is created equal.

[aur0ra85]

Well someone let the cat outa the bag... You should sneak a peak at one of the rare stacks and close out of the game;)

[Aristo4]

I just think that the people that do have them should have an advantage over the people that don't. Those toons are rare so they should be better, if they are given the right tailismans. This is not the type of game were every toon is created equal.

Those who you listed are in fact better than many others already. I don't think the rarity should mean huge advantage over the other players though.(there are some bad super rare ones there too)

I find the overall char supply is ok balanced between great/good/ bad characters. The real problem for me is giving every player the same chance for the good/great ones....there are players who play since July/August and never got anything 5*, let alone the special chars. Its too unbalanced.

[Witkacy]

OK, I get your point Eagle - as I said I AM pretty pleased of what I have got so far, because I AM aware that there ARE Maiden fans and the game players who even don't have a part of I do have... But all I am trying to say is NOT all of us have the same things (still could be fun - cause even with the same characters, people ARE different, right? Like in real life - so might be present different builds, different additional skills etc.), but let's say I have LESS (good, great - you name it) Eddies' companions in favour of having about 2 good Eddies... As I said above 3 super great characters and couple others fine, yet still ONE decent Eddie - let's say a bit rare... BUT there ARE people who being at the same level as I am - and having Cyborg Eddie, Tailgunner, Samurai, Grim Reaper and bunch of SUPERB non Eddie chars for example - all this having ONE person - super lucky? - sure he/she is, playing a lot (so DO I), maybe paying for a lot of souls? (so did I, yet could get 4 x 3* Rocket Dogs in a row!)... All I wish to TRY some different Eddies and maybe characters - yet people who have them not willing to accept me - whatever reasons - because their lists are already full or just because I have FINE to me (maxed to its best), yet still NOT so powerful Eddie comparing to Warriors, Gunners or Sentinels... That's fine... I AM NOT jealous, truly... But IF I have more chances to get some other Eddie to upgrade (of course it would took me some time and made me more attached and involved into a game - cause there will be one and only chance to play with some character - while I own it)... Cause now I play just and only just for trooper points to ''buy'' skill shards for my best stuff... Other not so great - could be maxed, but that's it... When I will do the job - the game will be over for me - as I already finished everything on gold (including secret places)... Sure - someone would say that I could be evolving 3* toons into 5* - bad idea I HAVE NOT such a lot of free time to waste... Evolving one 4* to 5* took me over a month with talismans and skill shards... I know the drop rates are going to be fixed, but still... Not worth of efforts to upgrade everything, but with Eddie it's different story... Cause you CAN play the Eddie even all alone, while you can't without him... Having great other chars and poor, average Eddie you'll ALWAYS loose and have to revive all...
Of course that's just my personal opinion and some my aggree and some other not... I believe that Iron Maiden treat every fans the same as we ARE one big family... I guess they are NOT sorting people to better (richer, cooler etc.) or worse (poorer, having less luck etc.) - they play for EVERYONE who loves their music, right? And so it SHOULD BE here... Cause when there are still people who can't pass some levels because not having decent team and so restriction of using one champ per day (but who will invite you while you have 3* characters even not maxed out, cause can't do any progress in the game) and THERE ARE others who have almost everyting... And that's simply not fair... I was lucky enough that some people of this forum gave me the helping hand and let me use their great powerful and so packed champs... But not everyone's like that sad to say...

[Eagleknight]

Imy trooper list is always full and I only drop them is the don't play for three days. Then I post asking for a new one. I wold take a lvl 1 player as long as they were active and used an Eddie as their champion. When is started playing I didn't under stand the troopers so I didn't even use them to finish the game. The August update really hurt players with evolution of toons but it did not make it impossible. I have gotten very few 5*s from souls I evolved the rest. Witkacy I under stand casual players just want to have fun but I still believe that hardcore players should have an advantage especially in pvp (my opinion). In every game I have ever played those that put more time in have always had an advantage. This is where luck comes in to level the field especially in this game.

[Witkacy]

Yes I know - am still trying to do the same cause now I CAN afford it having my champ maxed out and counting that this may draw someone's attention... On the other hand have few people on my list who have great chars and not playing over a week - still keeping them just because they are great and useful and afraid that when I would dump them I could not find others with the same stuff who are active...
I don't know if I AM a hardcore player - but I can tell you that I spent many hours daily giving all my troopers points (with list 49/50 usually), using a lot of ironites to refil sands of time to play even more, using all the time rifts, getting LOT of rare souls, but so what I am truly involved - last time got green soulless demon, red newborn of light and green pyro soldier of 4* worth to mention - others were 3* harpies, dogs and so on... And I really would love to exchange everything I had pulled lately for ONE Eddie even 3* but the decent one (I guess I've seen somewhere 3* Samurai or 4* Tailgunner) of course there are just examples... Any decent would be fine... There are people who have dups in great Eddies while I don't have any... Not fair a bit... It's totally understandable if would play ocassionally then sure thing I could have lower chances to get something better... But when there are people with level 41 having a lot more great stuff than myself being at 80 then someting's not right I believe...

[Eagleknight]

The rare toons I mentioned before that I don't have is after turning in over 300 rare souls. I play allot. I love this game and think the devs are now doing a great job taking care of issues and communicating. I do think the rng can be quite harsh. But when it comes to leveling the toons you do have its all about the time u put in. I'm just waiting on sacrifice and more character slots to save the day.

[Witkacy]

The most fair sollution would be if you COULD pick your reward even if it would cost you a lot of points... That way you would know it's worth to wait and save and you'll not ended with another useless thing... Sure not Samurai - 20k points, but let's say 5* Eddie - to preserve some excitement... But not like with legendary souls when there are 5* on it and you can get 4* char... Kinda ripping off...
The rules are clear - play a lot - have enough points - got great stuff, if not yet - you have to play more - but then everyone would be happy I guess and have more equal chances...

[aur0ra85]

All the basic eddies are crazy good if you level them. I got lucky and out of all the rare souls I got a single samurai Eddie and I don't even use him much unless I'm playing manually. Soldier is my go to, but recently I've started leveling my Econo eddies and wickerman, sol, and basic Eddie are epic. You don't need all the rare souls, it's def a want, not a need. You can farm the shards to level your characters in the rifts. And everyone has to grind out their talismans. Getting the right party synergy is key to auto farm and the high level rifts. Choose your allies and talisman builds carefully.
The game gives you some OP allies for free out of regular souls and all of us had to make due with them in the beginning.
TBH it looks like the RNG was pretty kind giving you the green demon, CR, and the nomad :O

[Witkacy]

I got your point there - but I bet a lot of people using the game Eddies NOT because they are so crazy good, but because simply they don't have any other option... Having really STRONG team you can afford on everything you want I guess... Play any level, any dungeon, any stage and you can ALWAYS win (maybe not? ;))... It HAPPENED to me that fairly a lot I've died using all maxed Soldier Eddie in Underworld Madness Secret Place so I guess Soldier is not that good... Even now with my CR Eddie I have to watch out what I am doing and can't play some levels on auto even if I have Warrior Troll and The Nomad by my side... As for the Green Demon - I would dump him - he has no passive (disappointing - every 4* that I've own so far have any)... Aurora as I wrote before - and please don't get me wrong - I am NOT complaining of what I have got, yet I just would like to that what I am getting would be more useful, right... It doesn't matter to me really if I get 20 4* chars or 25* star chars - It's pretty obvious that I will test each one, but not gonna max and evolve everything... Just for evolving... No, I am maxing ONLY those which I find trully useful for me now - as I find PDK is great companion to CR Eddie because he can boost his magic and so clears debuffs etc., or may be useful in general like Nomad or Warrior Troll... But I would be more pleased if having 10 companions but more Eddies in general... As for Eddies though - I've started with RTTH Eddie as he was granting perfect hits which is mandatory upon many quests... And it was my mistake I've put it into him so many skill shards I've got during playing the story of game... He was not so good either even with all talismans at 40... Too much healing him... While I've got CR Eddie finally I could move on with the game (have tested him before few times) because his ability of killing & healing at the same time :) So it's not just about all maxing up, but the ABILITIES all the Eddies have...

[Nekroliun]

All the basic eddies are crazy good if you level them. I got lucky and out of all the rare souls I got a single samurai Eddie and I don't even use him much unless I'm playing manually. Soldier is my go to, but recently I've started leveling my Econo eddies and wickerman, sol, and basic Eddie are epic. You don't need all the rare souls, it's def a want, not a need. You can farm the shards to level your characters in the rifts. And everyone has to grind out their talismans. Getting the right party synergy is key to auto farm and the high level rifts. Choose your allies and talisman builds carefully.
The game gives you some OP allies for free out of regular souls and all of us had to make due with them in the beginning.
TBH it looks like the RNG was pretty kind giving you the green demon, CR, and the nomad :O

I tottaly agree! Imo holy smoke and soldier are one of the best eddies, soldier doesnt need explaining but holy smoke! Hes a beast! The damage, the stun, the heal block fury (that works great on bosses)! His only weakness is his heal... its... mediocre... actually nvm its shit... but its getting replaced with rise (PSS's heal ability) which is outstanding!

[aur0ra85]

I'm sorry to hear about your terrible luck with the RNG....


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[Witkacy]

Evening Aurora :)

I guess no irony needed... And I AM sorry you've been shocked yourself because of me... To the point - I am not sure what is supposed to mean, truly... If I read you well (if not, please enlighten me and feel free to correct) you liked what you saw? Me either - so what's your point? I wrote somewhere that I am not pleased of what I am having? Feel free to check this... Was writing just that I would like to get less non Eddie characters in favour of having one decent Eddie... Not valid to you? Well... That's my opinion and it will stay that way no matter you'll say or post... Or maybe you've shocked yourself because supposed to see all the way rocket dogs or harpies of whom I wrote? Well... I HAD many of them as I said I've opened MANY rare souls, yet sold everything to upgrade my stuff... Still not valid to you? My bad that I haven't kept everything for you to make even greater screenshots - cause I can tell you it would be far more than 91 characters ;)

Have a nice evening :)
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[Gilgameth]

Your game...it is predicated on making a buck, which is obvious, and even when a buck is spent, the screw job intensifies. Thanks, I am out.