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Kaijester
07-25-2016, 12:40 AM
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FURY

Execute
Deals physical and magic damage.
Comsumes all Marks, dealing additional true damage for each Mark on the target

BASIC ABILITY

Strike
Deals physical damage to a single target.
30% Chance to trigger Additional Attacks.
Each attack has a chance to Critically Strike
LV2/4/6 DMG+5/10/15%
LV3/5 Effect Chance+5/10%

Guard
Reduce Physical Damage.
Reduce Magic Damage.
Fury Increases based on damage taken while Guard is up.
LV2/3/4/5 DMG+10/10/10/10%

Life Steal
Grants Lifesteal for 3 turns.
Lifesteal heals you for 60% of the physical damage you deal.
LV2/3/4/5 DMG+10/10/10/10%

POWER ABILITY

Rain (5 PWR)
Deals true damage to a single target.
50% Chance to place up to 2 Marks.
Marks can be consumed with Perfect Hits to deal Additional True Damage.
LV2/3/4/5 DMG+5/5/10/15%

Mark (1 PWR)
Deals true damage to a single target.
Marks the target for 4 turns.
30% Chance to gain an Extra Turn.
Marks can be consumed with Perfect Hits to deal true damage
LV2/3/4/5 DMG+10/10/10/10%

Cleanse (3 PWR)
Removes Negative Effects on a target ally.
Heals the target ally.
Heals amount is based on your MAGIC stat.
LV2/3/4/5 Healing+10/10/10/15%

Vaseodin
07-25-2016, 04:04 AM
This Eddie is super rare, it seems. I have yet to see one.

BillLion
07-25-2016, 03:37 PM
I have one trooper who uses him as his lead. To be honest, I haven't quite figured out how to maximize his use yet. Looks awesome though!

Fudjo
07-29-2016, 08:05 AM
Hey, BillLion! I'm the Trooper in question - Satan81-5023. Your Carraige Rider rocks! I use him a lot! Rainmaker does seem to be a rare Eddie, as none of my other Troopers (48 in total) have one.

The funny thing is while I have him set as my Champion, he isn't my lead Eddie. My Soldier Eddie is my workhorse. Rainmaker is a single-terget specialist and I have him set as my Champion to give my fellow Troopers a chance to try him out. I'm still figuring him out myself. I also have to get his Talismans up to 4-star and I'm waiting for some upgrade talisman drops to do that.

I don't know if other Eddies have this quality, but Rainmaker appears to be very unusual in that his base Special stat is ludicrously high enough to refill his Fury every turn (after a bit of leveling up). You can use his Fury ability (Execute) every turn. I'm not kidding. It makes his Guard ability kinda pointless unless you really need the defense. It also makes Talismans that increase his Special completely not worth it, too. It's also odd in that it makes pretty much all of his other abilities pointless because you just end up using Execute every turn.

The Execute ability also only does (a lot of) damage to one target. If you need more of a cluster bomb, have your Rainmaker take an action to do some damage and refill your Fury, then swap in a different Eddie on the following turn and use his Fury ability. Pretty nice perk for your group.

Also note that his Fury ability (Execute) does both Physical and Magical damage. It's a bit awkward in terms of choosing your talismans, but three of them have to be purple anyway, and those appear to have both ATK and MAG bonuses.

An annoying thing about Rainmaker: all of his abilities can be leveled, so best of luck with where his Skill Shards land.

Kaijester
07-29-2016, 08:49 AM
Hi Fudjo, If you didn't notice, we are trooper buddies too and this character profile was possible because of you!

BillLion
07-29-2016, 12:12 PM
Hey, BillLion! I'm the Trooper in question - Satan81-5023. Your Carraige Rider rocks! I use him a lot! Rainmaker does seem to be a rare Eddie, as none of my other Troopers (48 in total) have one.

The funny thing is while I have him set as my Champion, he isn't my lead Eddie. My Soldier Eddie is my workhorse. Rainmaker is a single-terget specialist and I have him set as my Champion to give my fellow Troopers a chance to try him out. I'm still figuring him out myself. I also have to get his Talismans up to 4-star and I'm waiting for some upgrade talisman drops to do that.

I don't know if other Eddies have this quality, but Rainmaker appears to be very unusual in that his base Special stat is ludicrously high enough to refill his Fury every turn (after a bit of leveling up). You can use his Fury ability (Execute) every turn. I'm not kidding. It makes his Guard ability kinda pointless unless you really need the defense. It also makes Talismans that increase his Special completely not worth it, too. It's also odd in that it makes pretty much all of his other abilities pointless because you just end up using Execute every turn.

The Execute ability also only does (a lot of) damage to one target. If you need more of a cluster bomb, have your Rainmaker take an action to do some damage and refill your Fury, then swap in a different Eddie on the following turn and use his Fury ability. Pretty nice perk for your group.

Also note that his Fury ability (Execute) does both Physical and Magical damage. It's a bit awkward in terms of choosing your talismans, but three of them have to be purple anyway, and those appear to have both ATK and MAG bonuses.

An annoying thing about Rainmaker: all of his abilities can be leveled, so best of luck with where his Skill Shards land.

Fantastic! Thanks for regularly using my trooper, you're a great ally.

And I appreciate your insight on Rainmaker Eddie. I keep playing him to figure him out his mechanics (as opposed to autoplay on some). Your insights are super helpful and I'll keep that in mind when playing him today.

You DEF have a very rare character. In fact, I gave someone on the Marvel Avengers Alliance 2 boards your ally code because he also plays this and had never seen a Rainmaker Eddie. So congrats!

Vaseodin
07-29-2016, 03:01 PM
I want you as a Trooper so I can try him! I'm wickedvase-5538. I sent a request

Kulimar
07-29-2016, 03:39 PM
Yeah, I'd like to try this guy out too. Please consider adding me: AgeEquillian-5527

I'm Rank 79 with several lvl 100 Champs, including Child of the Damnned (Magus) and Alliance General (Sentinel).

Fudjo
08-01-2016, 09:53 AM
Hi Fudjo, If you didn't notice, we are trooper buddies too and this character profile was possible because of you!

Oh cool! Heya! Cheers! :)

Fudjo
08-01-2016, 09:54 AM
You DEF have a very rare character. In fact, I gave someone on the Marvel Avengers Alliance 2 boards your ally code because he also plays this and had never seen a Rainmaker Eddie. So congrats!

Hey, do you have his ally code? I got a flurry of trooper requests and I only have a couple slots available. I'd be happy to add him.

Fudjo
08-01-2016, 11:28 AM
A quick recap of my experiences with Rainmaker's abilities:

Execute: I use it lots. It's a big pile of damage to one enemy and he resets his Fury to max every turn. With my talisman mix, he's doing about 1500 per hit, five hits in the flurry, so around 7500 damage. (My talismans are all 4-star, level 40 at the moment, and I'm gradually upgrading them to 5-star.)

Strike: You could use this or you could use Execute. The only reason why you would use Strike is if the enemy has very low health and you want to save yourself 5 seconds of animation time finishing them off. I frequently use Strike for that reason.

Guard: I used it for a while before I leveled him up enough that his Fury resets to full every turn. With a Magus Allied Soldier in my party, I have absolutely no reason to use this ability anymore.

Life Steal: I have never used it. It might be a good buff against a major boss. I should try it out and report back.

Rain: Terrible. You're just pouring 5 Power down a hole for an attack that doesn't do much damage. I haven't seen the Marks do enough damage to be worth putting effort into placing them, and it's only a 50% chance anyway. Of course this is where all my Skill Shards went.

Mark: It does little damage and the Mark isn't as exciting as I'd hoped it would be. However, if you have multiple enemies out there and one is at its last sliver of health, it's worth it to use Mark over Execute as the finishing blow because you get that 30% chance of another turn (with your Fury fully loaded). It's also my preferred opening attack on the first turn of the first fight because you have to load up your Fury anyway - might as well get that 30% chance of another turn. After that, it's usually Execute the rest of the way. Only 1 Power, too.

Cleanse: Good "in case of emergency" ability as it gives a lot of HP back to an ally. Also gets rid of negative effects. You won't use it much, but it comes through when you need it.


I can see where the developers were going with Rainmaker. There's a design idea in there for a counter-strike Assassin, where you use Guard to absorb attacks and then unleash the Fury with an Execute. There's also a design idea in there for marking your target and then cashing in those Marks for a big death blow on a boss. However, his ludicrous Special makes the Guard ability irrelevant, as you're using Execute nearly every turn regardless. The abilities that add Marks aren't particularly good or worth using over just attacking normally.

Something I'd like to try is finding allies or talismans that have the ability to place Marks on enemies (the purple dog can do it, as does the purple axe talisman, I think). Maybe there's a more useful way to stack up Marks as a team rather than trying to do it solo with Rainmaker.

In my main party where I'm trying to complete missions and unlock new territory, my leader is a Soldier Eddie. Rainmaker is in reserve if I need to do a lot of damage to a single target, if Soldier Eddie is getting beat up and I need someone to tag in, or if I need to reload my Fury ASAP. For grinding XP, gold, and evolve bits, I'm using Rainmaker, one ally, plus a Trooper's ally to maximize the XP gain on Rainmaker and to learn more about how to use him.

Fudjo
08-01-2016, 11:30 AM
Yeah, I'd like to try this guy out too. Please consider adding me: AgeEquillian-5527

I'm Rank 79 with several lvl 100 Champs, including Child of the Damnned (Magus) and Alliance General (Sentinel).

Added! Your Magus Child of the Damned is fun!

Fudjo
08-01-2016, 11:32 AM
I want you as a Trooper so I can try him! I'm wickedvase-5538. I sent a request

Added! Let us know how Rainmaker works out for you!

Your 5-star Possessed Mine is the funniest ally I've seen! And deadly! Did it come out of the box as 5-star or did you evolve it?

Jennie-5128
08-01-2016, 02:31 PM
I am assuming you are the single Trooper I have with Rainmaker, Fudjo: He's AWESOME. I really love him! Sad I only get to use him once per day.

Fudjo
08-02-2016, 08:03 AM
I am assuming you are the single Trooper I have with Rainmaker, Fudjo: He's AWESOME. I really love him! Sad I only get to use him once per day.

I don't think we've added each other as Troopers - I'm Satan81-5023. I just sent you a Trooper request. :)

Jennie-5128
08-02-2016, 12:10 PM
Well I now have TWO Troopers with a Rain maker....

Mark is great for those levels where one of the skull objectives is "use 10 power abilities"

SrG
08-02-2016, 01:33 PM
Good stuff. Thanks for the info Fudjo.

Fudjo
08-04-2016, 09:21 AM
Well I now have TWO Troopers with a Rain maker....

Nice!


Mark is great for those levels where one of the skull objectives is "use 10 power abilities"

Oh definitely. I used to have my Soldier stall battles by using Fury and then having my 4* Ox Cultist heal the party. Then I got the Rainmaker and using Mark saved a lot of time. It's funny when you're trying to find ways to avoid accidentally killing the enemy so you can rack up your Power ability count. :)

Jennie-5128
08-04-2016, 09:36 AM
It's funny when you're trying to find ways to avoid accidentally killing the enemy so you can rack up your Power ability count. :)
Yes I found some wry amusement in that too.
Rainmaker Eddie is second only to Axis Commander on the "WAH WHY HAVEN'T I GOT THAT ONE YET?!?!" list now, and the only reason he's second is because power allies are a bigger priority than a power Eddie for me right now.

Elindor
08-04-2016, 09:42 AM
@Fudjo, I added you also, I want to try that very rare Eddie ! ^^

Elindor-8275

Vaseodin
08-04-2016, 02:20 PM
Added! Let us know how Rainmaker works out for you!

Your 5-star Possessed Mine is the funniest ally I've seen! And deadly! Did it come out of the box as 5-star or did you evolve it?

Yeah I evolved it from 3 stars! I had so many purple shards I decided "What the heck?" and it turned out to be pretty awesome! Thanks for adding me. I love using your Rainmaker.

Also, thanks for the follow up review on all of his skills. Since I can only use him once a day I havent been able to really experiment with him. Very interesting character.

Elindor
08-07-2016, 11:34 AM
Sooooo I just pulled a 5* Rainmaker Eddie from a troopers shards pack !!!

Currently lvl 64, maybe I have to enhance his talismans but if you want a oneshot god as an ally... you're welcome.

Elindor-8275

Qed
08-07-2016, 11:47 AM
Rare shard or ass-gun shard?

Elindor
08-07-2016, 11:48 AM
Rare of course. I think if you do get one from the regular shards, go play the lottery.

Qed
08-07-2016, 11:55 AM
I mean the rare shard blue or rare yellow-purple?

sacredflash
08-10-2016, 12:39 AM
I would love to add you as a trooper if possible. I really wanna try Rainmaker Eddie.

I'm sharing a 5 star level 54 The Prisoner.

I'm moron-0024

Fudjo
08-10-2016, 09:18 AM
I would love to add you as a trooper if possible. I really wanna try Rainmaker Eddie.

I'm sharing a 5 star level 54 The Prisoner.

I'm moron-0024

Just added you!

Fudjo
08-31-2016, 08:12 AM
In my absence, it appears one of the latest patches added a (possibly missing) feature to the Rainmaker. When using Strike, if you kill a target you still get the 30% chance for an additional attack, which will be against a new target. I'm curious as to whether that's an update for all such additional attacks for other characters.

Zavvulon
09-20-2016, 03:01 PM
hey Fudjo, I sent you a request, I would love to try your Rainmaker buddy! I can guarantee you to use him every day ;)

GrimDusk
09-28-2016, 08:21 PM
This is the Eddie I want the most, but it takes so long to get gunner/assassin rare shards, it's hell. Soldier Eddie is probably my best as of now, realistically. I made the mistake of powering up Wickerman Eddie more than anyone else...

Fudjo
09-30-2016, 09:32 AM
This is the Eddie I want the most, but it takes so long to get gunner/assassin rare shards, it's hell. Soldier Eddie is probably my best as of now, realistically. I made the mistake of powering up Wickerman Eddie more than anyone else...

What's your userid? I can add you if you want to try him out.

Fudjo
09-30-2016, 09:38 AM
The devs have mentioned upcoming character tuning, including Rainmaker:

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?1834-Upcoming-Character-Tuning

Increased MAGIC scaling,
Increased ATK scaling
Mark - Increased base and scaling damage
Rain - Increased base and scaling damage

It's interesting that a stat change to SPECIAL isn't on the list.

Aristo4
09-30-2016, 10:57 AM
Maybe cause his fury attack is still relatively weak, and to a single target only.

Btw he must be the Eddie that needs the most skillshards to fully upgrade him......he needs 31 skillshards !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought 24 for the cyborg was too much, and I still got 7 to go. Rainmaker will take more than the 1,5 month it will take me for 24 items, and I don't think it's worth it right now? No idea.

GrimDusk
10-10-2016, 09:10 PM
I actually added you after seeing this thread. I believe my ID is Dante and I forget the numbers that come after, but he's helped me beat the game, so thank you.

aur0ra85
10-10-2016, 09:24 PM
Keep in mind, store is unlocked, you're only supposed to get 1 skill shard per week. That's 31 weeks to max rainmaker Eddie ;)

Esquatcho
10-11-2016, 06:03 AM
@Fudjo, seems I got lucky with an add. Thanks so much & if I ever have a day without getting you trooper points, rest assured its only because of the app force closing :/

I love your rainmaker for the dungeons. Just makes killing the last boss that little bit quicker. fury, fury, fury, check rewards!

BillLion
10-11-2016, 01:01 PM
Keep in mind, store is unlocked, you're only supposed to get 1 skill shard per week. That's 31 weeks to max rainmaker Eddie ;)

Or you can take advantage of the sweet deal in the store and get 3 of them for $50. Only cost you $500 and change to max him up quickly

Nekroliun
10-11-2016, 01:04 PM
Or you can take advantage of the sweet deal in the store and get 3 of them for $50. Only cost you $500 and change to max him up quickly

Seems like a good deal... 10/10 would buy

hold
10-11-2016, 06:11 PM
One thing is for sure: Rainmaker needs protection. Either MR or DEF will be too low what leaves him quite vulnerable. Warrior Troll on his side with a random shield for each party member for one turn beginning of a battle seems to work quite good ... and a guard all spell for 2 turns grants even more protection ...

First round maxes his fury and off he goes ...

He is very useful as a finisher especially combined with Carriage Rider. Fury of CR increases all your stats and decreases all stats of enemies ... with that over the heads of your foes Rainmaker is fearsome even without level 50 talismans - have some but not enough. Still fun to experiment with the new "toy".

hold
10-12-2016, 11:48 AM
Rainmakers secret weapon ... he bites the Lord in the arse ... :cool:

1408

BillLion
10-12-2016, 12:17 PM
Rainmakers secret weapon ... he bites the Lord in the arse ... :cool:

1408

Ha, ha! Gotta get one of those rainmakers!

Fudjo
10-19-2016, 11:42 AM
Rainmaker's Level 100 stats after the update:

HP: 5565 (no change)
ATK: 1082 (previously 961)
DEF: 70 (no change)
MAGIC: 1082 (previously 961)
M. RESIST: 70 (no change)
SPECIAL: 464 (previously 7130)

Alas, the super fun Special of 7130 is gone. Will test him out to see how he plays now.

Esquatcho
10-19-2016, 12:11 PM
Rainmaker's Level 100 stats after the update:

HP: 5565 (no change)
ATK: 1082 (previously 961)
DEF: 70 (no change)
MAGIC: 1082 (previously 961)
M. RESIST: 70 (no change)
SPECIAL: 464 (previously 7130)

Alas, the super fun Special of 7130 is gone. Will test him out to see how he plays now.

My guess is that his marking skills will become more important.... But shame as that fury each turn was heaps fun against bosses!

Tried a troopers just recently and it was still pretty good. Just found I was really hoping for the multiple hit to trigger more! ... Which may mean paring with accuracy boosters would become quite handy

Fudjo
10-19-2016, 01:15 PM
My guess is that his marking skills will become more important....

Definitely. I think his Guard skill will become more important as well, as a counter-strike option for gaining Fury.


Tried a troopers just recently and it was still pretty good. Just found I was really hoping for the multiple hit to trigger more! ... Which may mean paring with accuracy boosters would become quite handy

Heh, I think I'm your Trooper in question. I'm Satan81-5023. :)

Esquatcho
10-19-2016, 11:41 PM
Haha, yes then, you are! THanks man, your rainmaker was the first decent trooper toon I had!

Vallz-7904
10-24-2016, 04:32 PM
@Fudjo what's your talisman setup??

Fudjo
10-29-2016, 04:00 PM
@Fudjo what's your talisman setup??

Right now it's:

3 Resistance (Barrier)
2 Piercing (Skilled)
1 Guardian (Skilled)

Dunno what the optimal talisman mix is.

Vallz-7904
11-19-2016, 02:41 PM
Right now it's:

3 Resistance (Barrier)
2 Piercing (Skilled)
1 Guardian (Skilled)

Dunno what the optimal talisman mix is.

Okey i"m using
3 assassin
3 vampyr
But still trying out new combos

ill
12-03-2016, 05:19 AM
Looking forward to making it rain myself! For fun I moved my 6x50 assassin talisman over from my golden sun. I would like to share my rainmaker but he is vulnerable in this set up and gets knocked down easily. I don't have much in terms of shielding capabilities so I leave him on the bench until time for the boss kill shot. I am still trying to figure out how to best piece together a team with him to see if the massive skill shard investment is worth it. I haven't used marks much but leveling up my corrupt harpy could make things interesting since her passive skill issues marks.

Hypnos
12-03-2016, 12:18 PM
Looking forward to making it rain myself! For fun I moved my 6x50 assassin talisman over from my golden sun. I would like to share my rainmaker but he is vulnerable in this set up and gets knocked down easily. I don't have much in terms of shielding capabilities so I leave him on the bench until time for the boss kill shot. I am still trying to figure out how to best piece together a team with him to see if the massive skill shard investment is worth it. I haven't used marks much but leveling up my corrupt harpy could make things interesting since her passive skill issues marks.

he's pretty average since his special stat was nerfed. I somewhat regret wasting 31 skill shards on him. You can add me and test him out yourself if you want to see what he's capable of before you start upgrading him.

ill
12-04-2016, 09:35 AM
he's pretty average since his special stat was nerfed. I somewhat regret wasting 31 skill shards on him. You can add me and test him out yourself if you want to see what he's capable of before you start upgrading him.

I appreciate the offer and sent a request. I think you will enjoy checking out my skilled up wicker man. I am happy with his hitting strength.

ill
12-13-2016, 01:54 AM
So far my best bet for team composition with Rainmaker Eddie is bomber boy and angel of fear. I give angel a set of thief to have a couple chances to max fury. Since Rainmaker's defense is low I mitigate it with a couple void talisman sets per party. Otherwise, I leave him on the bench as a secondary eddie and bring him in for boss kill shots. I'm still playing around a bit before deciding on the skill shard investment. Looks like execute got more powerful. If I could make one character adjustment then I would like to see the skill shards for mark go towards extra turn chance rather than increased damage. I think that would greatly increase his effectiveness towards the shard investment.

osiris0000
03-25-2017, 04:33 PM
Hello everyone!

I got a brand-new Rainmaker Eddie (thanks to Sacrifice update) - but i have never used him in any team combination.

As far as i remember, he was specialized with his crazy high Special Stat at first LOTB era. Then we have experienced many character tuning updates - we still do. But now i really don't know how he is "currently" or is he useful with any team combination?

I would like to hear your experiences about this ultra-rare Eddie.


Cheers!

Hypnos
03-25-2017, 05:35 PM
Hello everyone!

I got a brand-new Rainmaker Eddie (thanks to Sacrifice update) - but i have never used him in any team combination.

As far as i remember, he was specialized with his crazy high Special Stat at first LOTB era. Then we have experienced many character tuning updates - we still do. But now i really don't know how he is "currently" or is he useful with any team combination?

I would like to hear your experiences about this ultra-rare Eddie.


Cheers!
Hey osiris, good to see you back.

Have had him since beating the beast on madness and I tell you it's been a hell of a ride since then. Since his three basic moves were replaced he's been a powerhouse not just on single target but on AoE attacks too.

He can fit in any team since no enemy team in the campaign can ever get a turn against him."Claim" (his past basic attack) does AoE damage and heals the whole team for every mark on the target. Fervor is quite broken (ie doing more damage than it should due to damage charge being applied every time) along with assassin troll since it was introduced so the damage he does with fervor now will change when the devs eventually decide to fix it.

I would recommend an assassin set, two holy talismans and a health (ward) because all his attacks are either true, phyiscal and magic, or magic. Claim is his best move, so much so that it seems too powerful for the defense AI on PvP to ever use it. Also it does magic damage which is the reason for the two holy talismans.

He takes 31 skill shards but by god is he a good investment if you have the time and effort.

osiris0000
03-26-2017, 01:26 AM
Hey osiris, good to see you back.

Have had him since beating the beast on madness and I tell you it's been a hell of a ride since then. Since his three basic moves were replaced he's been a powerhouse not just on single target but on AoE attacks too.

He can fit in any team since no enemy team in the campaign can ever get a turn against him."Claim" (his past basic attack) does AoE damage and heals the whole team for every mark on the target. Fervor is quite broken (ie doing more damage than it should due to damage charge being applied every time) along with assassin troll since it was introduced so the damage he does with fervor now will change when the devs eventually decide to fix it.

I would recommend an assassin set, two holy talismans and a health (ward) because all his attacks are either true, phyiscal and magic, or magic. Claim is his best move, so much so that it seems too powerful for the defense AI on PvP to ever use it. Also it does magic damage which is the reason for the two holy talismans.

He takes 31 skill shards but by god is he a good investment if you have the time and effort.


Thank you Hypnos, it's also nice to see you and other guys are still here. I just needed to take a break for a couple months to focus on my work, but it's really good to be back!

Well, about Rainmaker Eddie - i really appreciate your detailed info. But i have never seen anyone using him at PVP - you know, serious "Mummy Tauntfest" is going on there. By the way, i have tested his AI little bit. Looks like it's worth to keep him!

But 31 skillshards.. Sigh.. He probably have a secret name like "Rain-taker"
Because you must literally "Rain" the skillshards to max him out :cool:

Hypnos
03-26-2017, 02:02 AM
Thank you Hypnos, it's also nice to see you and other guys are still here. I just needed to take a break for a couple months to focus on my work, but it's really good to be back!

Well, about Rainmaker Eddie - i really appreciate your detailed info. But i have never seen anyone using him at PVP - you know, serious "Mummy Tauntfest" is going on there. By the way, i have tested his AI little bit. Looks like it's worth to keep him!

But 31 skillshards.. Sigh.. He probably have a secret name like "Rain-taker"
Because you must literally "Rain" the skillshards to max him out :cool:

Oh ya, he's not very popular in PvP. Partly due to his rarity but also because, even at maxed skills it's hard to find a good team for him.

I know one team that was very difficult to beat and that was raccar's. He's got the maxed skills rainmaker too alongside two AGS's and a dog of war. My defense is inspired from his with the other AGS replaced with an AoS. Since I'm low in the ranks for most of the week I get a fairly alright "defense hold" rate when compared with my previous standard taunt team.

Despite that rainmaker still is a valuable character to have when it comes to your offense team. Suddenly gunner CR doesn't seem so OP any more!!

I won't blame you if you choose not to join the max skill rainmaker gang (shoutout to raccar and ill!) :cool: skill shards don't come like rain but like tiny droplets! Hey, there's a spot available on my list if you're looking for troopers!

osiris0000
03-26-2017, 01:49 PM
Oh ya, he's not very popular in PvP. Partly due to his rarity but also because, even at maxed skills it's hard to find a good team for him.

I know one team that was very difficult to beat and that was raccar's. He's got the maxed skills rainmaker too alongside two AGS's and a dog of war. My defense is inspired from his with the other AGS replaced with an AoS. Since I'm low in the ranks for most of the week I get a fairly alright "defense hold" rate when compared with my previous standard taunt team.

Despite that rainmaker still is a valuable character to have when it comes to your offense team. Suddenly gunner CR doesn't seem so OP any more!!

I won't blame you if you choose not to join the max skill rainmaker gang (shoutout to raccar and ill!) :cool: skill shards don't come like rain but like tiny droplets! Hey, there's a spot available on my list if you're looking for troopers!


Currently i am still maxing GR Eddie (which is another skillshard eater and my current favourite) - and after that i will max my Angel of Pain (blue bat) - which is in half process. When i max my blue bat, my team of 3 bats will be full maxed. And they are quite effective on PVP offense, they can wipe out almost anything. I put my focus on offense first - so i can climb to higher ranks easier and get better items up there. Then i will have more resources to invest. First things first :)

Request sent! I look forward to try your fully maxed Rainmaker, then i can have a better idea :cool:

Hypnos
03-26-2017, 05:46 PM
Currently i am still maxing GR Eddie (which is another skillshard eater and my current favourite) - and after that i will max my Angel of Pain (blue bat) - which is in half process. When i max my blue bat, my team of 3 bats will be full maxed. And they are quite effective on PVP offense, they can wipe out almost anything. I put my focus on offense first - so i can climb to higher ranks easier and get better items up there. Then i will have more resources to invest. First things first :)

Request sent! I look forward to try your fully maxed Rainmaker, then i can have a better idea :cool:

When I got my hoard of skill shards from sacrifice, first thing I did was max out AoP. He appears to be vital if you want to do well in PvP!

Added and badges sent your way!

Nekroliun
05-23-2017, 11:44 AM
Claim is his best ability? well that's surprising! Or has it changed? My strat with him is pretty much using his 1 energy mark, which usually gives an extra turn (yesterday i had a crazy 7 extra turns on LoL, which killed him instantly with execute). Then activate the marks, which deals significant damage.

Though claim is meh for me, i use it when playing easy lvls and stuff like that...

Im using 4 assassin (2 shield and 2 barrier) sets for him and 2 boost will. Seems pretty good to me.




But if only i got him when he had his broken 6k special!

Fudjo
05-27-2017, 08:01 PM
Claim is his best ability? well that's surprising! Or has it changed? My strat with him is pretty much using his 1 energy mark, which usually gives an extra turn (yesterday i had a crazy 7 extra turns on LoL, which killed him instantly with execute). Then activate the marks, which deals significant damage.

Though claim is meh for me, i use it when playing easy lvls and stuff like that...

Claim is really, really good. Big pile of AOE damage, especially when fully sharded.


Im using 4 assassin (2 shield and 2 barrier) sets for him and 2 boost will. Seems pretty good to me.

I go with 6 Assassin talismans (3 shield, 3 barrier). There's no need for Boost talismans. Just go straight purple and enjoy the damage output. Although, if you're just using him for loot grinding on, say, Cast Die, I can see going with 3 Assassin and 3 Holy to max out the Magic damage. That's how I've built my Vampire Hunter and I might try that with my Rainmaker. Except that it really hurts Execute against the LOL bosses.

Oh, you're using Boost (Will) talismans. No wonder Claim sucks for you. Claim does Magic damage. :)


But if only i got him when he had his broken 6k special!

Ah yes...fun times. :)

Jofer16
05-27-2017, 08:05 PM
Want to shard up either Rainmaker or Eternity soon, need a purply Eddie. I'm torn. What say the Rainmaker experts?

Nekroliun
05-27-2017, 08:11 PM
Want to shard up either Rainmaker or Eternity soon, need a purply Eddie. I'm torn. What say the Rainmaker experts?

Rainmaker, eternity is pretty lackluster imo. Also rainmaker is badass

Mine has 3 assassin talismans, 2 boost wills and 1 holy arcane. The 3 assassin talismans are not even 5*. Yet with my strat of spamming mark on an enemy then executing kills almost all bosses

Hes also a great farmer with his claim!

Fudjo
05-27-2017, 08:43 PM
Want to shard up either Rainmaker or Eternity soon, need a purply Eddie. I'm torn. What say the Rainmaker experts?

Depends on what you're looking for, I think. Rainmaker is pretty much just straight damage, so he needs a solid support team for PVP. He's fantastic as a PVE loot grinder and trashes the Gunner LoL boss.

I haven't had a chance to try out Eternity, but his skill set looks potentially useful for PVP (particularly Parting Blows). He also has a much lower Skill Shard investment.

Hypnos
05-27-2017, 08:54 PM
Want to shard up either Rainmaker or Eternity soon, need a purply Eddie. I'm torn. What say the Rainmaker experts?

Speaking as a rainmaker expert (think I'm one of the first to max him so I've seen him at his all time lows :p ), I probably wouldn't max him again if I had the chance - since skill shards are pretty hard to come by these days! Luckily, with the launch of the achievements back in October I was able to finish him with 12 shards to go! Only took three months ;)

He's lackluster in the arena - no matter how much damage a character does, with as awful defenses and HP as he has, there's just no room for him in most teams. Even teams built around him are pretty easy to beat (I've tried one blocker, two blockers.. no gravy).

If you're looking for a decent PvE manual farmer, his claim ability is very good and does some heavy AoE damage (however it's a three tap move meaning more time required to beat a level). One thing I tried yesterday was his fury, execute, against Horus. With one mark pre-applied, Horus was left on his knees begging for mercy! In the gunner LoL dungeon, he certainly wrecks havoc - I've seen some huge numbers from him.

All in all a cool novelty character but I believe he requires yet another few tweaks to compete with the other five star eddies. Of course if you've got 32 shards to spare and you want a good laugh, go for it. Since, he is the coolest eddie out there!

Nekroliun
05-27-2017, 08:55 PM
Depends on what you're looking for, I think. Rainmaker is pretty much just straight damage, so he needs a solid support team for PVP. He's fantastic as a PVE loot grinder and trashes the Gunner LoL boss.

I haven't had a chance to try out Eternity, but his skill set looks potentially useful for PVP (particularly Parting Blows). He also has a much lower Skill Shard investment.

But hey! He has dat sweet cleanse!

Ask for a slot from jofer, im sure he would accept ur request! Eternity eddie prob does less dmg on purpose, he has a reflect shield with his heal, and revenge. I prefer rainmaker personally

Sag7272
06-05-2017, 12:29 PM
A question to all the built Rainmaker owner...
Is he in the end worth it, already have a deep rooster & don't plan to go all out PvP for a while, been stockpiling shards & with the coming home rewards on the way I could shard him right away...
He's definitely the coolest looking Eddie with the Cyborg but once built, is he too likely to be benched 90% of the time?...
Have to say I never played a fully built one..

Nicko
06-05-2017, 12:48 PM
Sag - I think Hypnos wrote a pretty good synopsis a couple posts up.

I did end up dumping a bunch of shards in mine and have fun pulling him out to play manually. I agree he's a very cool Eddie and it's gotten to the point in the game for me I'm sharding toons I think are cool (like Purple CotD and Rainmaker) even if they're not useful in the arena.

I've never used Rainmaker in the arena and I usually finish them off pretty easily when I see them. So if it's for fun - go for it - but if you're thinking arena - I agree with Hypnos - save the shards

Sag7272
06-05-2017, 01:07 PM
Sag - I think Hypnos wrote a pretty good synopsis a couple posts up.

I did end up dumping a bunch of shards in mine and have fun pulling him out to play manually. I agree he's a very cool Eddie and it's gotten to the point in the game for me I'm sharding toons I think are cool (like Purple CotD and Rainmaker) even if they're not useful in the arena.

I've never used Rainmaker in the arena and I usually finish them off pretty easily when I see them. So if it's for fun - go for it - but if you're thinking arena - I agree with Hypnos - save the shards

I remember one shotting these with my DM or Prisoner when I see one too, he's the squishy kind to say the least...
Arena is kinda far ahead for me presently, I'll probably flip a coin after the rewards just in case I'd pull a Cyborg or something.. Also be the eternal time who knows..

Tanks for the quick reply Niko, and Hypnos for the excellent write-up on what to expect from what used to be the rarest Eddie :)

Nicko
06-05-2017, 01:51 PM
I remember one shotting these with my DM or Prisoner when I see one too, he's the squishy kind to say the least...
Arena is kinda far ahead for me presently, I'll probably flip a coin after the rewards just in case I'd pull a Cyborg or something.. Also be the eternal time who knows..

Tanks for the quick reply Niko, and Hypnos for the excellent write-up on what to expect from what used to be the rarest Eddie :)

Seems like there ARE no rare Eddies anymore ;)

Sag7272
06-05-2017, 02:37 PM
Seems like there ARE no rare Eddies anymore ;)

Still unable to decide whether it's a good or a bad thing, at least we get to see them now :)

*Edit, finally sharded the guy... A good laugh, he's probably the funniest Eddie to play manually I've seen... Would've needed those older purple talisman to unleash full potential in my opinion but with the right team he's definitely a monster... Let's see when BNW hits :)

Fudjo
06-24-2017, 03:34 PM
July 2017 Tuning:

http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?6365

Fervor:
Fix for charge effect not increasing damage at Skill Level 1.

BonFire
07-04-2017, 06:35 PM
Talismans. Anyone have a good idea of what to use with him? For a while I used 3 Assassin 2 shield 1 barrier, and 3 vampire 2 barrier 1 shield, but I was told to try Resistance and Resilience to make him a bit less fragile. So I have 2 of each and they're both shield, and then I have 2 shield Assassin on him as well, because Resistance is still glitched to only raise MR.

So, I'm worried by making him a bit more durable, I may lose the thing that helps him wipe out GRE and GCR in usual one hit, while also just slightly making him possibly survive one round against them.

Vampiric/Assassin set up
+6852 HP
+2311 Att/M
+342 D/MR

R&R&A
+8584 HP
+2052 Att/M
+684 D
+519 Mr

Fudjo
07-04-2017, 09:47 PM
I go with the theory that Rainmaker is gonna be super fragile no matter what you do, so you might as well go max offense with 6 Assassin talismans. I haven't used him in PVP yet, but I'm figuring a team with an Armor Dog or a Green Bat to block plus a Red Bat to provide the extra turn might be good.

BonFire
07-05-2017, 11:44 PM
Oh okay, I just gotta level up a green bat. I think I have one. Though, I'll need to get a Red Bat to make that work. My PVP team is taken up by Masked and Sentinel Harpies.

Hypnos
07-06-2017, 05:49 AM
Oh okay, I just gotta level up a green bat. I think I have one. Though, I'll need to get a Red Bat to make that work. My PVP team is taken up by Masked and Sentinel Harpies.

Don't bother, rainmaker is too weak for PvP. You could bring one blocker, two blockers he is simply not worth the time as he is.

Sag7272
07-08-2017, 03:21 PM
Talismans. Anyone have a good idea of what to use with him?
Mine have two resistance, an assassin set & a random green... Wished I've kept some resilience as 4 resilience + 2 resistance (assuming some balance shield/barrer) would gives even better stats...
He's never be a PvP guy alone (not as is) but I feel more at ease in PvE with 15k HP so I don't have to build team around him if I autofarm..


Don't bother, rainmaker is too weak for PvP. You could bring one blocker, two blockers he is simply not worth the time as he is.

Played a bit PvP with some revivers & him as a bait... It's definitely more efficient than blockers but still really vulnerable to energy tallismans & silence... Too vulnerable actually there's dozen of better team to build than that lol

Browno
10-22-2017, 10:43 PM
Any thoughts on this guy after update?

Sag7272
10-23-2017, 01:22 AM
Any thoughts on this guy after update?


Not much mileage yet but with fate tallisman & stats buff he's seems more usable than he used to, have to be picky with his teammates since he still quite fragile... Look promising even if edgy

Rain88
10-23-2017, 02:30 AM
Any thoughts on this guy after update?

He still sucks... Maybe he sucks SLIGHTLY less now but still... He can't survive anything, not useful and doesn't have an assassin damage. Nowhere near an ultra rare 5* Eddie and could be the worse Eddie. After this update I sharded him to try him and I wish I didn't waste these 32 skill shards.

I have been using Storm Eddie for BNW (garden of life VII) and thought about replacing him with Rainmaker Eddie (with maxed talisman) . Storm Eddie's fury completely destroys the boss (removes all shield or does all the damage before he regenerates his shield) whereas Rainmaker's fury old remove 75% of the shield. To add up, Storm Eddie's fury is also useful in general (add debuffs). As for his basic attacks, they have average damage (4000-6000 on a SINGLE target). So basically, there is no reason to use him in PVE

As for PVP, there is absolutely no reason to use him over other assassins (comparing Rainmaker with VHE is a joke, even Storm is better in PVP: better heals, better fury, steals energy and fury, blinds and increases magic damage on all enemies)or high damage eddies (or any other eddie maybe) as they are all useful and can survive more with better damage.

Sag7272
10-23-2017, 03:17 PM
He still sucks... Maybe he sucks SLIGHTLY less now but still... He can't survive anything, not useful and doesn't have an assassin damage. Nowhere near an ultra rare 5* Eddie and could be the worse Eddie. After this update I sharded him to try him and I wish I didn't waste these 32 skill shards.

As for PVP, there is absolutely no reason to use him over other assassins

Well having a different opinion here... New special stat mean you have fury building quite fast & with fate set he'll blow away anything if he happens to be charged (like 6x 20+k) on offence it's not rare to blow a toon & his blocker in only one attack...

Sure he can't do it alone VHE is more user friendly & have many more teammates & strategies options but Rainmaker can do serious damages & even one shot AG when used properly... Have to admit that balance is hard to find & he's strategically kinda on the edge but straight up saying he sucks may be a bit of an overstatement...

edsel
02-28-2018, 07:34 PM
everyone seems to WANT rainmaker to be great but he sadly lacks performance worthy of 32 SHARDS and 5star rare assassin status. Seventh Son came out blazing and the stats are meh, yo devs: can Rainmaker get tweaks please so he is competitive instead of insulting comments from payers who feel ripped off after sharding him?

DIEDD
02-28-2018, 08:14 PM
everyone seems to WANT rainmaker to be great but he sadly lacks performance worthy of 32 SHARDS and 5star rare assassin status. Seventh Son came out blazing and the stats are meh, yo devs: can Rainmaker get tweaks please so he is competitive instead of insulting comments from payers who feel ripped off after sharding him?

believe it or not, rainmaker already got some buffs in a previous update, before that, he used to be much worse, the change was from bad to acceptable (if you can call it acceptable), now it's more a high damage eddie than an useful eddie. I do not think the devs want to give him some buffs now, but it would be great.

blade685
02-28-2018, 09:59 PM
his skills must be updated
He can't be good with no change
I looted him 3 times and no VH that is so much better

Yup
03-01-2018, 12:04 AM
He needs more base HP (like 1500-2000).. it's way too low. And his extra turn trigger needs a bit of a boost too. Then he WOULD be on par as a single-hitter to match VHE multi-hit.

slauki
03-01-2018, 06:26 AM
He needs more base HP (like 1500-2000).. it's way too low. And his extra turn trigger needs a bit of a boost too. Then he WOULD be on par as a single-hitter to match VHE multi-hit.

he needs a complete rework, he is like a very bad version of VHE. no idea why the two rarest chars in the game share the same skills, seems like the roadhouse guys had no time to figure out something individual for him. i just hope this devs will find some time to make this character great, since he would deserve it.

there is NOTHING that makes this char special, he is one of the worst eddies for me. yes he does nice damage on paper, but with true shields out there you don't have to fear him at all. basicly this is not enough. hope he will get a VIP treatment like AHE one day....


edit: actually there is something that makes this character special and unique --> the ridiculous amount of skillshards that has to be used to pump up a somewhat useless eddie is outstanding (32).

Yup
03-01-2018, 07:09 AM
yeah. every skill shard I was hoping I would see SOMETHING that merited them.. never did and really have almost never used my full powered Rainmaker.

But, conversely.. I pulled 7th Son before pulling VHE.. both full powered.. I jump to 7Son long before using VHE for somewhat the same reasons I don't rely on Rainmaker. -- low health.. and charge can be done via talismans... the revive is nice but special stat is WAY too low considering how little base HP they have. And Rainmaker doesn't have revive....

MoonShadow
03-01-2018, 08:59 AM
I think that the Rainmaker needs a complete re-vamp, I mean he doesn't have a ability that should make him unique, like the other Eddies do (or I haven't found that). I am looking now at his special, maybe it should grant something to the team, I don't know, but I saw that in the Arena, if the char he's attacking has invincibility or endure, for example, his special is completely useless then.

OTOH, despite the fact that he's a strong hitter, I've found that I can't even relay on him to finish a simple mission like Powerslave, only with some serious support from allies, and I often use that mission to improve some of the new allies.

blade685
03-01-2018, 10:27 AM
I think that the Rainmaker needs a complete re-vamp, I mean he doesn't have a ability that should make him unique, like the other Eddies do (or I haven't found that). I am looking now at his special, maybe it should grant something to the team, I don't know, but I saw that in the Arena, if the char he's attacking has invincibility or endure, for example, his special is completely useless then.

OTOH, despite the fact that he's a strong hitter, I've found that I can't even relay on him to finish a simple mission like Powerslave, only with some serious support from allies, and I often use that mission to improve some of the new allies.

+1 a rebuild is needed for him

edsel
03-01-2018, 11:14 AM
hopefully we are heard and this one can be evolved into something fitting for a super rare assassin 5 star, with stats SO HIGH this should be a shining star instead of a joke, and the shard requirement being the highest he should be the ULTIMATE EDDIE. Thank God for Seventh Son to keep things rockin...

blade685
03-01-2018, 12:17 PM
hopefully we are heard and this one can be evolved into something fitting for a super rare assassin 5 star, with stats SO HIGH this should be a shining star instead of a joke, and the shard requirement being the highest he should be the ULTIMATE EDDIE. Thank God for Seventh Son to keep things rockin...
perhaps one day the best PVP eddie, i'm waiting for that day :cool:

Amarthir
03-01-2018, 05:59 PM
I fully agree that he needs a rework. When I started the game before Navigator Eddie came out I thought he was the coolest looking Eddie and I wanted to get him the most. I'd happily use him if only he could be boosted to a proper 5* Eddie. As it is, his only gimmick is he has one of the highest cumulative attack stats in the game, at least higher than most other Eddie's. But with characters who have even higher power and better other stats, he's just a joke to them. I vote for a stat rework and a move rework as well.

But to be a little bit fair, he has a basic attack that grants him perfect immunity, so if you combine that with Steel Talismans he'll be invincible to most conventional attacks. Providing he gets the chance to set it up.

Sag7272
03-27-2018, 05:25 PM
Rainmaker oh poor rainmaker...

With some cool guys we had a conversation about him not long ago, note that these changes already been communicated to LOTB team, can only help to have them here too...

His stats... Are not problematic if he's a wrecking ball kind of glass canon, problem is he have to setup too much before being efficient to be useful... Only tree moves would be affected

Fervor:
It could deliver 100% permadeth... It would also give some grip to purple Troll at the same time... Btw, ability to charge up to two allies on perfect or 100% chances to charge self on perfect woud be awesome too...

Crackle:
Perfect immunity is cool but somewhat a waste on him, why not perfect immortality for one turn... Would be easy counter by blue bat (post updates) or any permadeath, anyway with his low HP it's not like it'd make him immortal in any ways..

Fury move:
It's destructive for sure but as a fury it's really much like VHE without bells & whistles there's something missing there...
Why not exhaust all opponent team for 1 turn... Or two as a red buff, just to give him a chance to help his team that obviously have to be built around him...

Those where my soles suggestions, he'd reach some balance & keep his "personally" at same time..
Afterall, he's the coolest looking assassin around, it's a shame to bench him that often after 32 shards, what y'all think?

Amarthir
03-27-2018, 05:40 PM
That's a good start but I'll run down his moveset for what I think would be nice.

Fervor:
Yeah, guaranteed charge for him and maybe someone else would be a good change.

Rain:
Great move, but if it triggered marks already applied, it could be a better move.

Claim:
I don't have a problem with this move.

Mark:
Well there isn't anything to say about this either.

Crackle:
I really like this move. The guaranteed Perfect Immunity can be mixed with alot of sets to keep him from taking any damage.

Stab:
Maybe this move should get the Permadeth proc. Since it would mix with the heal block, it would be more efficient.

Execute:
I don't have any good ideas for this move, but I'm open to changes.

Sag7272
03-27-2018, 05:49 PM
Tanks for your reply Amarthir
Personally really love the idea that fervor gets permadeth... Hence making Troll useful too, fervor also does 30k damages with ascention, with permadeath you can eliminate opponents one by one like with AcotD & forget about it... Stab don't do enough for that...

But that's just my counter opinion, at that point anything will make him better ;)

DIEDD
03-27-2018, 06:46 PM
Rainmaker oh poor rainmaker...

With some cool guys we had a conversation about him not long ago, note that these changes already been communicated to LOTB team, can only help to have them here too...

His stats... Are not problematic if he's a wrecking ball kind of glass canon, problem is he have to setup too much before being efficient to be useful... Only tree moves would be affected

Fervor:
It could deliver 100% permadeth... It would also give some grip to purple Troll at the same time... Btw, ability to charge up to two allies on perfect or 100% chances to charge self on perfect woud be awesome too...

Crackle:
Perfect immunity is cool but somewhat a waste on him, why not perfect immortality for one turn... Would be easy counter by blue bat (post updates) or any permadeath, anyway with his low HP it's not like it'd make him immortal in any ways..

Fury move:
It's destructive for sure but as a fury it's really much like VHE without bells & whistles there's something missing there...
Why not exhaust all opponent team for 1 turn... Or two as a red buff, just to give him a chance to help his team that obviously have to be built around him...

Those where my soles suggestions, he'd reach some balance & keep his "personally" at same time..
Afterall, he's the coolest looking assassin around, it's a shame to bench him that often after 32 shards, what y'all think?

oh man, this could be my dream rainmaker, fucking cool suggestion I hope the devs take it into account and can make their 5 stars shine with pride.

Sag7272
03-27-2018, 08:05 PM
oh man, this could be my dream rainmaker, fucking cool suggestion I hope the devs take it into account and can make their 5 stars shine with pride.

Hope too, for now he's mostly for bragging right to say "look dude, have so many shards don't mind dumping 32 right there"... Or LOTB equivalent of lighting your cigar with a 100$ bill..

That way or another he have to somewhat evolve into something else..

DIEDD
03-27-2018, 08:50 PM
Hope too, for now he's mostly for bragging right to say "look dude, have so many shards don't mind dumping 32 right there"... Or LOTB equivalent of lighting your cigar with a 100$ bill..

That way or another he have to somewhat evolve into something else..

Well, I already gave him 32 skill shards, so I'm looking forward to that buff.

Sag7272
03-27-2018, 09:04 PM
Well, I already gave him 32 skill shards, so I'm looking forward to that buff.
Have too a while ago, in some previous meta he could hold his own but not anymore :/
Looking forward at any buff even a bad one to be honest lol

Rain88
03-27-2018, 10:32 PM
Fury move:
It's destructive for sure but as a fury it's really much like VHE without bells & whistles there's something missing there...
Why not exhaust all opponent team for 1 turn... Or two as a red buff, just to give him a chance to help his team that obviously have to be built around him...



That's ONE of his main problem... He've got probably the worst Eddie fury.

I wouldn't count on any changes for him recently as the devs apparently "buffed" him recently... such a waste of 32 skill shards.

blade685
03-28-2018, 09:33 AM
actually 32 skill shards for him is a joke, i'm waiting for a new rainmaker since a long time :(

Sag7272
03-28-2018, 12:30 PM
I wouldn't count on any changes for him recently as the devs apparently "buffed" him recently... such a waste of 32 skill shards.
You would be surprised, team was more receptive than you may think about those adjustments..

actually 32 skill shards for him is a joke, i'm waiting for a new rainmaker since a long time :(
He don't have to be new... Just a buff like when VHE passed from laughing stock to a monster, wasn't much was just what's needed... If he can permakill even just to go with his look it'd already be that lol

Amarthir
03-28-2018, 02:59 PM
You would be surprised, team was more receptive than you may think about those adjustments..

Good to hear, usually when I suggest something they give me the cookie cutter response. However, I did suggest a buff to Cyborg Eddie's Scan and now it's in the patch notes so maybe they do listen :)

Sag7272
03-28-2018, 03:12 PM
Good to hear, usually when I suggest something they give me the cookie cutter response. However, I did suggest a buff to Cyborg Eddie's Scan and now it's in the patch notes so maybe they do listen :)

They do listen... When it's in their agenda to buff a toon or when his useage stats are real low, unless played manually you can't even reliably PvE... Been months since I haven't used him in the arena, in more than a year there's only one meta where he was useful in PvP & it was tricky.. He's way overdue for some love in the opinion of many..if not everyone in a form or another it will happen someday it's inevitable :)

Yup
03-28-2018, 04:21 PM
actually 32 skill shards for him is a joke, i'm waiting for a new rainmaker since a long time :(

Yeah they REALLY need to make it worthwhile if you've invested all those. As it stands.. 32 SS and a character I never use because it never really got much better with the SS applied. Had I known going in.. Rainmaker would have been just before XMas Eddie on my "to skill shard" list. So many wasted skill shards...... sigh.....

To me.. he needs more base health..... really if he maxed at 10K HP rather than 6K he'd be WAY more useful.

MrFreeze
03-28-2018, 11:34 PM
The last time I had fun with rainmaker, his special stats were still ridiculously high. Back when you could just use his fury every turn. As much as I dislike all the character tuning, I’d welcome any positive changes to this guy.

GrimDusk
07-01-2018, 04:43 PM
The new buffs being added are going to make him unstoppable.

URock
07-02-2018, 10:59 AM
The new buffs being added are going to make him unstoppable.

Is it worth to spend the shards on him? What do you mean with "new" buffs? The new Eclipse talisman?


Edit: found it...you mean the July tuning, right?

edsel
07-02-2018, 02:26 PM
Is it worth to spend the shards on him? What do you mean with "new" buffs? The new Eclipse talisman?


Edit: found it...you mean the July tuning, right?

I am running max sharded as champ now, you are my trooper and can test drive him as is and after July buff-date to evaluate. Lotsa shards but really kicks wss with right support in arena. Destroys the ever present Prisoner with Primordials. His performance with Shroud is ok, but once removed buff he is weak and easily done. Balance with Guard tals building fury and adding much needed hp and Assassin set increasing attack&magic by substantial amount he runs nice. Boost yellow tals with plus 25% of hi fury also good with him. I am pleased, although currently no way top arena contender without update buffs.

GrimDusk
07-02-2018, 03:42 PM
Is it worth to spend the shards on him? What do you mean with "new" buffs? The new Eclipse talisman?


Edit: found it...you mean the July tuning, right?

Yes, that's what I meant.

URock
07-04-2018, 08:01 PM
Update is live, let's test him \m/

Stormseye
07-05-2018, 05:41 PM
Just as a heads up he works well with AoM after he buffs himself and the party then you can add more Yellow buffs from bat. Would have liked to seen higher % chances for extra turns given the fact he has no multi hit anymore. He still needs a bit of protecton since he is an Assassin class and therefore quite squishy.

GrimDusk
07-05-2018, 07:50 PM
So he's really great in certain situations, but you'll need the other toons to be the supports. He will be the only damage dealer on the team, but he deals a lot to make up for it.

Stormseye
07-05-2018, 08:01 PM
I hit for 35k earlier today. I cant decide whether to run him with Eclipse or Shadow set. The Shadow set negates Prisoner's Disable Passives so his first attack you can set him up with Perfect Immunity. The begin the assault. Usually focus on Iron Eddie and since he is a single hitter he won't trigger the Sentinel Lillith who probably has Crit Strike so no healing for Iron Eddie.

edsel
07-05-2018, 10:40 PM
Running most combos found Shadow on Rainmaker with Desert Marauder having a set of Immunity talismans giving the perfect hit and resulting Charge works so amazing. The new basic skill is hitting with class advantage charge and perfect hit nearing 100k, and giving extra turn at times. Only trouble I have is Iron Ed with his granting team True Shield. The Eclipse talisman on Rainmaker is not as powerful and can be stolen, Shadow can be reactivated with Advantage talismans. Besides, the whole crew gets infinite perfect Shroud once the fury kicks anyway.

edsel
07-05-2018, 10:45 PM
https://youtu.be/Veumy14Auqg