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Pat-8186
07-25-2016, 03:10 PM
Does anyone know where these drop from? They are the only color of 3 star evo shards I do not have, but the one I am in need of.

Trystangst
07-25-2016, 03:37 PM
As far as I can tell, they can drop anyplace 3* shards drop. Probably just having a bit of bad RNG.

Vaseodin
07-25-2016, 04:27 PM
Hmmmm. Strange how the "drop info" button shows certain things that don't necessarily drop. For example, the madness battlefield drop info shows 3* evolution shard (green), but I've played countless stages over and over and have yet to see a 3 star evolution shard from battlefield. Underworld in hard shows 3* purple evolution shards and I was able to gather enough over 2 days to evolve my mummy dog to 5 stars. This is grinding only the 3rd mission in that stage. That entire time I got white 3* evolution shards, 1 yellow, and a most purple. So it seems the drop info button is pretty dead on with the Underworld Hard stage. But I have yet to get a single green or blue one (the ones I need!). If anyone has had any luck obtaining these, please help!

aur0ra85
07-25-2016, 04:53 PM
To be honest, it appears to be another statistically broken in game mechanic. Purple shards and runes appear most on the underworld stage and on the hard setting appear to drop at a minimum value of 3 stars frequently. Compare this to a stage like the pyramid one where on the madness setting runes and shards for magus characters drop much more frequently but are of much lower quality (2 stars?). My crude observation is that grinding in underworld on the hardest setting provides the best results, but I use the runes and shards on different character classes than what they were intended for. As to your question, with regards to the evolution shards, the blue ones are proving difficult to find. :(

Pat-8186
07-25-2016, 06:55 PM
To be honest, it appears to be another statistically broken in game mechanic. Purple shards and runes appear most on the underworld stage and on the hard setting appear to drop at a minimum value of 3 stars frequently. Compare this to a stage like the pyramid one where on the madness setting runes and shards for magus characters drop much more frequently but are of much lower quality (2 stars?). My crude observation is that grinding in underworld on the hardest setting provides the best results, but I use the runes and shards on different character classes than what they were intended for. As to your question, with regards to the evolution shards, the blue ones are proving difficult to find. :(

Are the not even dropping in Madness Underworld? It would be nice if they would drop where you can farm them with a 4 star character.

Vaseodin
07-25-2016, 07:22 PM
I agree. I haven't opened madness underworld and I'm positive I won't be able to "farm" any stage there currently. I need gem 3 star revolution shards and I can't find them anywhere. It doesn't seem logical to be able to get yellow and purple ones easier than green, seeing as to how much stronger those 2 character types are.

Beeboo
07-25-2016, 07:41 PM
I have farmed the Underworld Hard and Madness. The shard drops are similar. I farm Circle of Fear on Hard for shards, on madness for gold.

Rodrigo-3281
07-25-2016, 10:28 PM
I'm convinced the 3* blue evolution shards don't exist. I can't find one at all. I have 3* rainbow ones but until I can get these there's just no way I will be able to progress in the Underworld madness level.

Beeboo
07-26-2016, 12:02 AM
I found 2 today Underworld Madness Soulless Demons

Vaseodin
07-26-2016, 12:09 AM
I can't even get to underworld madness

Trystangst
07-26-2016, 01:34 AM
Just got a 3* green shard from Underworld treasure level (normal)

*edit* and another just now from Battlefield Shell Shocked (madness)

Beeboo
07-26-2016, 02:43 AM
http://i.imgur.com/fIDE9jo.png

Pat-8186
07-26-2016, 03:13 AM
I found 2 today Underworld Madness Soulless Demons

They shouldn't be that hard to get, especially since all the other colors except blue can be gotten on a 4-star. You should only need a 4 star character to get the shards to promote to 5 stars. I did most of the content with Carriage Driver Eddie ans that is the character I enjoy playing. I should not have to hope to get a different 5 star Eddie from a Soul shard, so I can level it to get blue Evo shards to promote Carriage Driver to 5-stars so I can redo the same content. This game if fun, but I should not have to dedicate my life to it to promote a character from 4 to 5 stars.

The Evo packs that were $30 in the shop did not include 3-star Evo shards, essentially charging $30 for one 4-star character. In my opinion, a 5-star is not worth this much. I would be willing to pay $.50 to $1.00 for single Evo shards though. Alternatively Evo shards could be converted to a different color for about 10k gold per star.

As it stands now, to promote any Magus from 4 to 5 stars, I would need to get another 5-star character either through luck or spending a Triple-A title amount of money, and the spend what seems like would possibly be weeks grinding for 3-star blue Evo shards just to play the character I want to play. No thank you to that. I have already spent more time trying to farm the 3-star Evo shards I need than I did leveling the character to a level 80 4-star. If there is not a clear and fair path to promote my Carriage Driver to 5-star by the time that Night City releases, I will be uninstalling this game since I will be unable to progress through that content.


I'll end my rant here. Feel free to jump on the band wagon. The more people we get the faster it will roll down hill.

Beeboo
07-26-2016, 03:15 AM
3 star gold evo shards even tougher to find

Pat-8186
07-26-2016, 03:16 AM
http://i.imgur.com/fIDE9jo.png

That's the "Rainbow" one (the Evo shard). It is the neutral one needed by all classes. The blue ones for Magus are a darker blue. I have enough Rainbow ones. The green one is a leveling shard and not an Evo shard.

Beeboo
07-26-2016, 03:33 AM
Ah those, even harder to find than the gold. I have yet to find one.

Pat-8186
07-26-2016, 03:44 AM
Here's all the ones I have. It would be nice if we could trade them, but hardly anyone seems to have any blues.

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Beeboo
07-26-2016, 03:55 AM
222

My count so far

Gonzo
07-26-2016, 05:30 AM
I got one a few minutes ago in Underworld Madness. The first one too. But I got more of Gunner and Assassin. I have like 20 of the rainbow ones.

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 02:07 PM
Honestly, I'm having more issues trying to get my talismans to five stars, I've done seven (4 red, 1 green, 1 yellow, 1 blue).I've promoted a couple characters to 4 stars in the meantime and yesterday I levelled my Hellhound to five stars just because I had the shards to do it. Finding the upgrade shards for blue characters and upgrade runes for blue characters seems to be the biggest bottleneck. The other colours aren't nearly as difficult to find. In addition finding some of those super rare talismans is a problem.

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 02:11 PM
I don't have any statistics to back up my claim, but I feel like if you're running red characters or purple/yellow characters/talismans you'll have the most success finding stuff. At the other end of the spectrum if you're looking for blue stuff, you're going to have the most problems. A function of the fact that blue characters are generally the most powerful in the game? Idk.

Vaseodin
07-26-2016, 02:29 PM
Well then explain the difficulty in finding green EVO shards as well. Supposedly green characters are the "weakest", and yet the green EVO shards are just as hard to find as the blue ones.

jpmusic
07-26-2016, 03:25 PM
You may not believe it, but I think I've found more green EVO shards than the other 4...

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 05:19 PM
I've levelled one greed talisman, and I have a few shards...

Vaseodin
07-26-2016, 05:49 PM
I don't mean the evolution of talismans. I meant the Shards to evolve green characters to 5 star. Those 3 star evolution shards are as rare for me as blue. In fact, I have one blue 3 star and 0 green. To me they are equally as rare. Whereas I have evolved my 2 star mummy dog (purple) to 5 stars and a purple possessed mine to 4 stars and only short 2 more purple 3 star shards in order to get THAT guy to 5 stars. It's obvious the purple are the most common. At least in my experience. Meanwhile, my mummy Eddie has sat at 4 stars for almost 2 weeks now.

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 06:04 PM
The retarded part is the purple characters are by far the least common :/

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 06:10 PM
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Here are mine.
Need a purple character :(

Pat-8186
07-26-2016, 06:27 PM
I don't mean the evolution of talismans. I meant the Shards to evolve green characters to 5 star. Those 3 star evolution shards are as rare for me as blue. In fact, I have one blue 3 star and 0 green. To me they are equally as rare. Whereas I have evolved my 2 star mummy dog (purple) to 5 stars and a purple possessed mine to 4 stars and only short 2 more purple 3 star shards in order to get THAT guy to 5 stars. It's obvious the purple are the most common. At least in my experience. Meanwhile, my mummy Eddie has sat at 4 stars for almost 2 weeks now.

Are you sure it is blue and not the "Rainbow" one they look kind of blue. If it is a blue, where did it drop.




One a side note, 3-star blue Evo Talismans drop from Madness Power Slave. It is a very low rate though.

Pat-8186
07-26-2016, 06:30 PM
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Here are mine.
Need a purple character :(

Do you remember where the 3-star blue dropped?

aur0ra85
07-26-2016, 06:40 PM
Do you remember where the 3-star blue dropped?

Not the slightest; however, I believe the drops are on a per map basis with the best quality and quantity coming from The underworld on the hardest setting u can tolerate. I have no evidence to back up this claim and obviously the very best come from the secret locations, but no one has any concrete evidence to the contrary either lol.

Trystangst
07-26-2016, 08:10 PM
Just had a green 3* shard drop from Battlefield Toys of Death (Madness).

Vaseodin
07-27-2016, 01:11 AM
Thanks Trystangst! I jsut played toys of death on madness per your recommendation and got 2 green 3-star shards! All in 10 minutes!

Trystangst
07-27-2016, 02:07 AM
Now if only I could find some blue ones...

Trystangst
07-27-2016, 03:22 AM
It just happened. Battlefield, Toys of Death, Madness. A 3* blue shard.

Gonzo
07-27-2016, 07:44 AM
Does anyone have a reliable level to farm Gunner 3* shards? I know that Underworld shows in the drops that you can get them, but I only got 2 Gunner ones and like 15 of the Assassin type.

I don't have any good Assassins :(

Trystangst
07-27-2016, 06:51 PM
Current totals (mostly from battlefield madness)
4 3* green
4 3* red
3 3* purple
1 3* blue
9 3* white

The purples came from Underworld hard, and I haven't seen one (or a yellow) from Battlefield. So I'd wager find a good level you can grind in Underworld, cause that's your best bet.

aur0ra85
07-27-2016, 08:40 PM
Seems like a good place to check out.

Pat-8186
07-28-2016, 05:12 PM
It just happened. Battlefield, Toys of Death, Madness. A 3* blue shard.

I have had yellow 3* drop on battlefield. Every color has dropped there for me except Blue.

Rodrigo-3281
07-28-2016, 07:27 PM
I just got my first 3* blue shard ever in Battlefield Toys of Death Madness. Wow! They do exist! ;)

Trystangst
07-28-2016, 10:40 PM
I just got my first 3* blue shard ever in Battlefield Toys of Death Madness. Wow! They do exist! ;)

That level is money for me. So many shards.

Trystangst
07-29-2016, 01:25 AM
Just got green shard number 6. The question is, do I pull the trigger on my Dog?

Gonzo
07-29-2016, 01:27 AM
Which dog? o.O

Trystangst
07-29-2016, 01:52 AM
Dog of War :D

Gonzo
07-29-2016, 02:43 AM
Hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!! Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... YOU TROLL!!!! LOL

I'm still in the grind for the last Gunner shard. The good thing is that I know have 500k gold, so as soon as I get it, my Soldier Eddie is going to 0 to 100 almost instantly.

Trystangst
07-29-2016, 02:55 AM
Troll?
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Hahahaha ;)

Gonzo
07-29-2016, 03:18 AM
Ok!!!! Do it!!!! I want to see it!!!! LOL

Trystangst
07-29-2016, 04:00 AM
Ok!!!! Do it!!!! I want to see it!!!! LOL

Soon as I find those pesky 2* shards. It's already over 10k health. It actually packs a punch, since it's attack scales with HP.

Pat-8186
07-29-2016, 05:27 PM
That level is money for me. So many shards.

I got my 1st blue from there, but none since. Does all of Madness battlefield have the same chance to drop the 3* blues evo shards, or is it just Toys?

Anyone get any blue 3# from any other parts of the 1st half of madness Battlefield or hard Underworld?

Beeboo
07-30-2016, 01:53 AM
Just now Souls of the Dead

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Trystangst
07-30-2016, 02:26 AM
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Still looking for those pesky 2* green shards.

He's hitting for 3700 with his 3 Power stun agains 5* Magus units.

And his talismans aren't even fully leveled.

SARGERAS
07-30-2016, 03:10 AM
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Still looking for those pesky 2* green shards.

He's hitting for 3700 with his 3 Power stun agains 5* Magus units.

And his talismans aren't even fully leveled.

My undead allied soldier 80 with 40 magus talismans hits around it, 4k, and 5k+ with eddie soldier buffs.

Beeboo
07-30-2016, 04:46 AM
Still looking for those pesky 2* green shards.

He's hitting for 3700 with his 3 Power stun agains 5* Magus units.

And his talismans aren't even fully leveled.

Wait until you need the 3 star greens

Vaseodin
07-30-2016, 05:28 AM
Yah I FINALLY got my mummy Eddie to 5 star. So with 3 5* characters with mostly maxed talismans I think I'm finally ready to take on underworld madness.

Beeboo
07-30-2016, 07:04 AM
Awesome. Just leveled up my soldier Eddie to 5 star 100.

Trystangst
07-30-2016, 12:12 PM
Wait until you need the 3 star greens

Already have 6, and 10 of the white. All I need are the 2 2* :D

Beeboo
07-30-2016, 07:57 PM
I found (3) 3-star blue evos today grinding Madness Battlefield A Matter of Life and Death

aur0ra85
07-30-2016, 09:02 PM
I found a three star green one on the first level of underworld madness.

Trystangst
07-31-2016, 12:45 PM
Found it. Hahaha
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aur0ra85
07-31-2016, 03:18 PM
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Bringer of light, underworld/secret, Easy.

Pat-8186
07-31-2016, 03:56 PM
I got a green 3* and a blue 3* from Madness Power Slave

Trystangst
08-01-2016, 03:07 AM
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Bringer of light, underworld/secret, Easy.

I was just going to post a pic of pulling 2 3* green shards from Underworld Normal. Haha

HeadlessHammerhead
08-03-2016, 03:07 PM
Mmaeta in the Spanish forums suggested being able to combine shards to obtain a new one. This would be a good feature for many of us - for example, I have 3* purple to power up everyone's characters in this entire forum, but nothing else. Even silver ones are rare in my case (a month in, playing nonstop daily, and I only have 5 of them). If I could combine say, 2 purples for a single one of another color (even a random one), it would be a relief.

Jennie-5128
08-03-2016, 03:38 PM
Mmaeta in the Spanish forums suggested being able to combine shards to obtain a new one. This would be a good feature for many of us - for example, I have 3* purple to power up everyone's characters in this entire forum, but nothing else. Even silver ones are rare in my case (a month in, playing nonstop daily, and I only have 5 of them). If I could combine say, 2 purples for a single one of another color (even a random one), it would be a relief.

... or if we could trade. I have loads of silver...

Trystangst
08-03-2016, 03:41 PM
I'd just like to see a way to combine up or divide down, like Final Fantasy: Record Keeper had for their orbs.

10 1* shards < - > 1 2* shard
10 2* shards < - > 1 3* shard

Add in a gold (is it gold?) cost and you alleviate bottlenecks without eliminating grinding. I'd keep it within a color (red for red, white for white only) or else you make it TOO easy.

Vaseodin
08-03-2016, 03:47 PM
Yes, That would be a great system!

Jennie-5128
08-03-2016, 03:51 PM
I'd just like to see a way to combine up or divide down, like Final Fantasy: Record Keeper had for their orbs.

10 1* shards < - > 1 2* shard
10 2* shards < - > 1 3* shard

Add in a gold (is it gold?) cost and you alleviate bottlenecks without eliminating grinding. I'd keep it within a color (red for red, white for white only) or else you make it TOO easy.

+1 to this plan

Flann
08-03-2016, 03:59 PM
I fourth that idea.

Trystangst
08-03-2016, 07:11 PM
It's raining Green shards apparently.
Total number of 3* shards I've gotten so far:
4 Purple
18 White
15 Green
8 Red
2 Blue
3 Yellow

Figures. I 5* my Dog of War, and I have the resources to 5* ANOTHER green unit, yet Soldier Eddie and Magus Allied Soldier languish in 4* limbo.

Gonzo
08-04-2016, 07:51 AM
It took me A LOT to get 2 3* Gunner shards to level my Soldier Eddie... In the last 2 days I got 6 :rolleyes:


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Of course I'm looking for a Blue one LOL

SrG
08-04-2016, 01:20 PM
Is Toys of Death/Madness still the best chance of getting 3* blue shards? I don't have Underworld/Madness unlocked yet.

I just need one, and in over 100 battles, haven't gotten one there, just some of the other colors.

Dutch
08-04-2016, 01:27 PM
Is Toys of Death/Madness still the best chance of getting 3* blue shards? I don't have Underworld/Madness unlocked yet.

I just need one, and in over 100 battles, haven't gotten one there, just some of the other colors.

yes thats where i farmed for mine

SrG
08-04-2016, 01:34 PM
yes thats where i farmed for mine

Thanks. Back at it I guess :/

Dutch
08-04-2016, 01:37 PM
yeah it took me about 2 days to get the 3 i needed but i found toys to be pretty good for blues

Vaseodin
08-04-2016, 01:55 PM
If you are able to do underworld madness, I recommend farming any stage there. I have been getting more blue 3 sta
rs now that I'm working those stages. In fact, yesterday alone I got 4 blue ones.

Trystangst
08-04-2016, 02:35 PM
It took me A LOT to get 2 3* Gunner shards to level my Soldier Eddie... In the last 2 days I got 6 :rolleyes:


Of course I'm looking for a Blue one LOL

Isn't that how it always goes? LOL

aur0ra85
08-04-2016, 02:47 PM
I was doing well there too, I've dropped down to the powerslave map tho looking for thief talismans. I'm going to try a red bat build with them. His passive is epic and I have enough red shards for five stars.

SrG
08-04-2016, 06:12 PM
If you are able to do underworld madness, I recommend farming any stage there. I have been getting more blue 3 sta
rs now that I'm working those stages. In fact, yesterday alone I got 4 blue ones.

I'm kinda stuck on Underworld hard right now, which is the problem. I did get three blue 2* today on Toys/hard and upgraded the blue Allied soldier to 4*, so maybe after leveling him to max 4*, I can clear it.

BillLion
08-04-2016, 06:15 PM
I'm kinda stuck on Underworld hard right now, which is the problem. I did get three blue 2* today on Toys/hard and upgraded the blue Allied soldier to 4*, so maybe after leveling him to max 4*, I can clear it.

I'm stuck there too, even with him at max level at 4*s. But I'm trying a new approach using him w/ Pharaoh Eddie and a warrior pyro solider. Just need to keep bumping up those talismans -the double gold day helped a lot. Good luck!

TheFinalSaint
08-04-2016, 06:20 PM
I'm trying to get the drops for 3* gunner shards, yet i keep pulling 3* warrior shards, which aren't even on the drop list in Underworld>Madness Mode.

i agree, they should have some consistency on that, but in the developers and business end, they want us to farm a sh*tload and be receiving random drops so that we but more sands of time and whatnot.

It's one of those things that make you just go grrrr, but i guess i can level up my warrior Eddie's, though i really wanna upgrade my soldier Eddie to 5*

I think maybe the colors of the stages might mean where we're more fortunate to see the respective shard color? might be a possibility but a bit unsure ahaha

BillLion
08-04-2016, 06:34 PM
Just remembered the other reason I'm stuck on underworld hard. It freezes every time I play Dark Mission

SrG
08-04-2016, 07:02 PM
Woohoo just got one.

Just need the cash to 5* my Carriage Rider Eddie

Aschendor
08-04-2016, 10:08 PM
I would like too these shards.

I have a lot of 3* shards to have my first 5* Eddie but the game don't want it happens...
I have 2 Eddy : Wickerman and soldier Eddie but only 3 blue and 1 yellow.
But as I don't need, I have 13 red and 20 purple...

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Trystangst
08-04-2016, 11:08 PM
Did a bunch of farming during the double gold and managed to scare up the other 4 blues I needed, as well as 2 or 3 more yellow. Now I've gotten (and in some cases used) enough 3* shards of each color to evo 2 green, 1 red, 1 purple, 1 blue. 1 shard shy of 5* Soldier Eddie.

PerthEddie
08-05-2016, 04:32 AM
Where is the best place to get 1* and 2* Gunner (yellow) shards from. I have looked at the drop info on all the areas and can only see 2* listed in Underworld. Only just opened that area up and as all my characters are only 3* I will have to use my high level Troopers to get anywhere. I am desperate to get my 3* Soldier Eddie up to 4*.

One thing I can do is buy the Legendary Pack and use the Ironite to buy a Magus and Sentinel Upgrade pack. That way I can get my Magus and Allied soldier to 4* and I think I will have enough Rainbow shards left to get my SE up if I can get these yellows from somewhere. Actually if I do that I might be able to get my starter Eddie to 4* as well as I think I have enough red shards (need to check)

Dutch
08-05-2016, 06:41 AM
Think battlefield is best for those I seem to recall getting most my yellow 1 and 2* there

Doorag
08-05-2016, 07:59 AM
Hi,

What characters are you guys using when farming Underworld Madness?

Dutch
08-05-2016, 09:43 AM
Hi,

What characters are you guys using when farming Underworld Madness?

5* carrigae rider, 4* allied soldier and 4* rocket dog, i farm wayward path as its the easiest one i think

sentinel_
08-05-2016, 11:55 AM
I use my best characters (but it depends on how lucky you are with the rare souls drops)

- carriage eddie 4*
- allied General 5*
- children of the dammed (warrior) 5*

Trystangst
08-05-2016, 01:29 PM
4* 80 Soldier Eddie (stupid yellow shards)
5* 34 Magus Allied Soldier
5* 86 Dog of War

HeadlessHammerhead
08-07-2016, 01:10 PM
Hi,

What characters are you guys using when farming Underworld Madness?

I used:

4* Carriage RiderEddie lvl 80
4* Possessed Mine (purple) lvl. 80
5* Troll (red) lvl. 30

These have since all gone to 5* and I'm working them to get them to lvl. 100. I played Shadows of the Valley, since its's one of the few early stages that doesn't have Trolls to lock-up the game in an infinite loop with my troll.

rayquaza
08-12-2016, 03:27 AM
Each level offers between 1 - 3 stars whenever you complete it with a minumum of one unit alive, with bigger rewards for completing objectives and earning these three stars. Don't forget though that you choose to don't be required to meet the objectives while doing so.
For example, if the objectives are “Use only basic abilities,” “Survive with 2 allies,” and “Win with 75% health” and you get the first two stars on your first playthrough, you don't still have to only use basic abilities and survive with 2 allies intact on your next playthrough. Just win with 75% health and your third star will unlock.