Sacrifice 101 - (Help Me Complete)

[zamasu]

With the new feature “Sacrifice” many new questions arise of how it actually works. I spend some time to try to figure it out and this is what I found so far:

First, get familiar with the terms:

Essence: Each character has an “essence value” attached to it depending on its natural star tier (1* - 5*), level (1-100), character class (Warrior / Magnus / Sentinel vs. Gunner / Assassin) and Ally vs. Eddie.


Vortex Meter: (From the FAQ) It is long term vortex bonus, each sacrifice will add up in the vortex meter and give you bonus rewards when full.


Sacrifice Tiers:

Tier I Petty Sacrifice: 100 - 499 Essence*
Tier II Meager Sacrifice: 500 - 1,999 Essence*
Tier III Strong Sacrifice: 2,000 - 5,999 Essence
Tier IV Worthy Sacrifice: 6,000 - 8,999 Essence
Tier V Grand Sacrifice: 9,000 - 19,999 Essence
Tier VI Exalted Sacrifice: 20,000 - 49,999 Essence
Tier VII Ultimate Sacrifice: 50,000+ Essence

* Tier I and Tier II gives you extra rewards if you double, triple or quadruple the minimum essence requirement.

Example: Tier I Minimum essence requirement is 100.

With 100 essence you will receive 1 reward.
If you double that number (200) you get 2 rewards
If you triple it (300) you get 3 rewards
If you quadruple (400) you get 4 rewards.

This has been proven for tier I and II only.


Essence Values:


SKILL SHARD BONUS ESSENCE: 400



Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel (non-Eddie)




Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 167
Level 1: 1,800
Level 1: 6,400


Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 240
Level 80: 2,400
Level 100: 8,000


4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 320
5* Level 1: 2,560



5* Level 100: 400
5* Level 100: 3,200




Gunner / Assassin (non-Eddie)



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 188
Level 1: 2,025
Level 1: 7,200


Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 270
Level 80: 2,700
Level 100: 9,000


4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 360
5* Level 1: 2,880



5* level 100: 450
5* Level 100: 3,600





Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel Eddies



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 209
Level 1: 2,250
Level 1: 8,000


Level 60: 300
Level 80: 3,000
Level 100: 10,000


4* Level 1: 300
5* Level 1: 3,000



4* Level 80: 400
5* Level 100: 4,000



5* Level 1: 400



5* Level 100: 500





Gunner / Assassin Eddies



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 235
Level 1: 2,530
Level 1: 9,000


Level 60: 337
Level 80: 3,375
Level 100: 11,250


4* Level 1: 337
5* Level 1: 3,600



4* Level 80: 450
5* Level 100: 4,500



5* Level 1: 450




5* level 100: 562






Hearts (Obtained from precious souls)

Sacrificial Heart (1*):

1* lv 1: 600
1* lv 20: 1,000

5* lvl 100: 1,400

Strong Sacrificial Heart (3*):

3* lv 1: 1,049
3* lv 60: 1,500

5* lvl 100: 1,900

Ultimate Sacrificial Heart (5*):

5* lv 1: 3,200
5* lv 100: 4,000



NOTE: Running some number we can find a pattern between them:

You get an extra 25% essence bonus when you sacrifice an Eddie vs. a non-Eddie character
You get an extra 12.5% essence bonus when you sacrifice a G/A character vs. a non-G/A character
You get an extra 400 points in essence for every skillshard that the character has.






NOTE: Wicked Dog King and Queen are giving less points than expected.

[druid138]

Thanks for putting this together! Great stuff!

I haven't played around too much with Sacrifice today. But I did notice something interesting. My 3* Level 1 non-Eddies were showing up as 167 as you indicated. Except WDQ, which showed up with a much lower value. I can't remember exactly what it was, but maybe around 80. I'm not sure if that's a bug or if there is essence variation at that level.

druid138-6195

[Nine]

I'll state the values I can add with respect to a specific character, since there are some oddities like Wicker Dog King and Queen giving way less points than probably intended.

non-eddie 5* Magus, Pharao Dog King, level 1: 6400

non-eddie 4* G/A, Destert Marauder, Rocket Dog, Level 1: 2025

non-eddie 4* G/A, Troll, Level 80: 2700

Eddie, 4*, Sentinel, FotD, Level 1: 2250

Eddie 3*, Sentinel, Mummy, Level 1: 209

Eddie 5* G/A, Vampire Hunter, Level 1: 9000

Eddie 4*, G/A Tailgunner, Level 1: 2530

Eddie 3* G/A, Storm, Level 1: 235


Edit says: all natural at the star level they are stated

[zamasu]

I'll state the values I can add with respect to a specific character, since there are some oddities like Wicker Dog King and Queen giving way less points than probably intended.

non-eddie 5* Magus, Pharao Dog King, level 1: 6400

non-eddie 4* G/A, Destert Marauder, Rocket Dog, Level 1: 2025

non-eddie 4* G/A, Troll, Level 80: 2700

Eddie, 4*, Sentinel, FotD, Level 1: 2250

Eddie 3*, Sentinel, Mummy, Level 1: 209

Eddie 5* G/A, Vampire Hunter, Level 1: 9000

Eddie 4*, G/A Tailgunner, Level 1: 2530

Eddie 3* G/A, Storm, Level 1: 235


Edit says: all natural at the star level they are stated

Interesting .. Maybe G/A have two different values? Gunner 4* 2025 and Assassin 4* 2700?

It is odd. If most characters have different values. it will be a nightmare figure all the values lol

[Nine]

Interesting .. Maybe G/A have two different values? Gunner 4* 2025 and Assassin 4* 2700?

It is odd. If most characters have different values. it will be a nightmare figure all the values lol

Na, the Troll is leveled to 80 ;)

[Jofer16]

Thanks this is awesome. So it looks like it's not really worth powering anything up to sacrifice for more essence? Seems like a minimal gain since it's based on original star level, unless you're drowning in mats I guess.

[zamasu]

Thanks this is awesome. So it looks like it's not really worth powering anything up to sacrifice for more essence? Seems like a minimal gain since it's based on original star level, unless you're drowning in mats I guess.

Pretty much. I leveled 2 characters from 3-5* and the essence gain was pitiful.
If you wanna get 50,000 essense you need at least 4 natural 5* characters and the rest natural 4* ...
For now I am keeping my 4* and 5* dupes until I can reach 50,000 essense

[zamasu]

Na, the Troll is leveled to 80 ;)

I completely missed he was lvl 80 lol, my bad

[zamasu]

Thanks for putting this together! Great stuff!

I haven't played around too much with Sacrifice today. But I did notice something interesting. My 3* Level 1 non-Eddies were showing up as 167 as you indicated. Except WDQ, which showed up with a much lower value. I can't remember exactly what it was, but maybe around 80. I'm not sure if that's a bug or if there is essence variation at that level.

druid138-6195

Thanks, took note.


I'll state the values I can add with respect to a specific character, since there are some oddities like Wicker Dog King and Queen giving way less points than probably intended.

non-eddie 5* Magus, Pharao Dog King, level 1: 6400

non-eddie 4* G/A, Destert Marauder, Rocket Dog, Level 1: 2025

non-eddie 4* G/A, Troll, Level 80: 2700

Eddie, 4*, Sentinel, FotD, Level 1: 2250

Eddie 3*, Sentinel, Mummy, Level 1: 209

Eddie 5* G/A, Vampire Hunter, Level 1: 9000

Eddie 4*, G/A Tailgunner, Level 1: 2530

Eddie 3* G/A, Storm, Level 1: 235


Edit says: all natural at the star level they are stated

Updated

[R1ck]

My assasin CotD gave me 9000 at level 100, is a natural 5*

[Aristo4]

Viking skillmaxed, 15600
Cyborg Skillmaxed 20850
Desert Golem skillmaxed (yes) 5250
Tailgunner skillmaxed 12900

[zdm-1083]

Regular 1* Lvl 1: 15
Regular 1* Lvl 20: 25
Regular 1* at 2* Lvl 1: 32
Regular 1* at 2* Lvl 40: 50
Regular 1* at 3* Lvl 1: 69
Regular 1* at 3* Lvl 60: 100

Regular 2* Lvl 1: 32
Regular 2* Lvl 40: 50
Regular 2* at 3* Lvl 1: 69
Regular 2* at 3* Lvl 60: 100


Gunner / Assassin Regular 5* lvl 100: 11250 (Vampire Hunter Eddie)

[Sidney]

My assasin CotD gave me 9000 at level 100, is a natural 5*

I'll bet you have some skill shards on him... I have two of them and the one without shards would only give 8000. I'll have to unlock my other one and check the value with the shards.

[zdm-1083]

To Fix:
4* Eddie at 5* lvl 1: 3200

New:
4* GA Toon at 5* lvl 100: 3600

As well, I think that G/A is up to 12,5% of normal.
Verified for:
5* Eddie is 10K, 5* GA Eddie is 11250 ( :D )
4* toon lvl100 is 3200, 4* GA toon lvl 100 is 3600

So I guess you could put figures and wait for fix if any.

About shards:
PDK Max (12 shards) is 12K
AoP Max (12 shards) is 7200
WickerMan Eddie Max (20 shards) is 10K

So at first sight, 333,33 for PDK and AoP by shard, 300 for WickerMan.
Need to do more test with other toon but they are in my PvP team XD

Edith: Worth to mention that I verified figures for 3* Eddie (from 3* lvl 1 to 5* lvl 1)

[satani]

Vortex Meter:[/COLOR] (From the FAQ) It is long term vortex bonus, each sacrifice will add up in the vortex meter and give you bonus rewards when full.

Essence Values: ...

is the vortex meter the purple bar?
I was just sacrificing some 2*toons in 4x-groups when suddenly a purple "bling" came and a popup that gave me massive amount (3 legendary souls, 2 G/A Souls and some skill shards.

Nice bonus!

[Jofer16]

is the vortex meter the purple bar?
I was just sacrificing some 2*toons in 4x-groups when suddenly a purple "bling" came and a popup that gave me massive amount (3 legendary souls, 2 G/A Souls and some skill shards.

Nice bonus!

Yeah it is, that's where the good stuff is :)

[konstifik]

Soldier Eddie / Tailgunner Eddie
Natural 4 * level 80 - 3375 essence

Tailgunner Eddie
Natural 4*, 5* level 100 - 4500 essence

Cyborg Eddie / Vampire Hunter Eddie
Natural 5 * level 100 - 11250 essence

Desert Marauder / Assassin Newborn of Light
Natural 4*, 5* level 100 - 3600 essence

[konstifik]

G/A are 1/8 (=12,5 %) more than otherwise equivalent of W/M/S.
Eddies are 1/4 (=25 %) more than otherwise equivalent non-Eddie.
G/A Eddies are 13/32 (=40,625 %) more than otherwise equivalent W/M/S non-Eddie.

(By otherwise equivalent I mean same *, same natural * and same level)


We can also note that to be able to reach the highest sacrifice (VII, Ultimate Sacrifice) which requires 50k essence, you have to bring at least one natural 5* (unless you are sacrificing characters with skill shards on them).

[konstifik]

Did two Exalted Sacrifices (lvl VI) today. Got a skill shard and 3 rare warrior souls from the first and 3 rare warrior and 3 rare magus souls from the second. Those two sacrifices were also enough to fill up the vortex meter which gave me 4 skill shards, 2 rare G/A souls and a legendary soul.

Got shit from those souls, but they unlocked some achievements which gave me more souls which gave me Rainmaker Eddie (and Pharaoh Dog which I didn't have before).

[zamasu]

GSD guys. I will update first post maybe later today

[Ringe666-7406]

GR Eddie lacking 5 skill shards = 19200 :D

[treeb0mbb]

Anyone gonna update the number for the G/A characters and G/A eddies? I can give some info for a 4* G/A character if that's needed..

Native 4* G/A at 5* level 1 would be 2880. And at 5* level 100 it would be 3600. Without skill shards

[zdm-1083]

Made a quick file:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JlkAHPinVOOrj3g9flXvzLidyNCLtYBLHvorDrHkBa8/edit#gid=0

[JJJ428]

Will this thread also have the vortex bonus thresholds in it?

[zamasu]

My assasin CotD gave me 9000 at level 100, is a natural 5*


I'll bet you have some skill shards on him... I have two of them and the one without shards would only give 8000. I'll have to unlock my other one and check the value with the shards.

R1ck, I Think so too. For now I will keep the number as 8,000 without skillshards





Viking skillmaxed, 15600
Cyborg Skillmaxed 20850
Desert Golem skillmaxed (yes) 5250
Tailgunner skillmaxed 12900


Regular 1* Lvl 1: 15
Regular 1* Lvl 20: 25
Regular 1* at 2* Lvl 1: 32
Regular 1* at 2* Lvl 40: 50
Regular 1* at 3* Lvl 1: 69
Regular 1* at 3* Lvl 60: 100

Regular 2* Lvl 1: 32
Regular 2* Lvl 40: 50
Regular 2* at 3* Lvl 1: 69
Regular 2* at 3* Lvl 60: 100


Gunner / Assassin Regular 5* lvl 100: 11250 (Vampire Hunter Eddie)

I will add the 1* and 2* later.

Added G/A Eddie #




To Fix:
4* Eddie at 5* lvl 1: 3200

New:
4* GA Toon at 5* lvl 100: 3600

As well, I think that G/A is up to 12,5% of normal.
Verified for:
5* Eddie is 10K, 5* GA Eddie is 11250 ( :D )
4* toon lvl100 is 3200, 4* GA toon lvl 100 is 3600

So I guess you could put figures and wait for fix if any.

About shards:
PDK Max (12 shards) is 12K
AoP Max (12 shards) is 7200
WickerMan Eddie Max (20 shards) is 10K

So at first sight, 333,33 for PDK and AoP by shard, 300 for WickerMan.
Need to do more test with other toon but they are in my PvP team XD

Edith: Worth to mention that I verified figures for 3* Eddie (from 3* lvl 1 to 5* lvl 1)

Which 4* Eddie are you talking about? 4* at 5* lvl 100 for 3,600? I have to double check this.

Thanks for verifying. I will run some numbers to see if I get the same %


Soldier Eddie / Tailgunner Eddie
Natural 4 * level 80 - 3375 essence

Tailgunner Eddie
Natural 4*, 5* level 100 - 4500 essence

Cyborg Eddie / Vampire Hunter Eddie
Natural 5 * level 100 - 11250 essence

Desert Marauder / Assassin Newborn of Light
Natural 4*, 5* level 100 - 3600 essence

Thanks!

Updated

[zamasu]

Will this thread also have the vortex bonus thresholds in it?

What do you mean?
I don't think there's a define # to see how much "vortex bonus" you would get

[zamasu]

G/A are 1/8 (=12,5 %) more than otherwise equivalent of W/M/S.
Eddies are 1/4 (=25 %) more than otherwise equivalent non-Eddie.
G/A Eddies are 13/32 (=40,625 %) more than otherwise equivalent W/M/S non-Eddie.

(By otherwise equivalent I mean same *, same natural * and same level)


We can also note that to be able to reach the highest sacrifice (VII, Ultimate Sacrifice) which requires 50k essence, you have to bring at least one natural 5* (unless you are sacrificing characters with skill shards on them).

I got the same numbers.

Now I think I can complete the whole chart

[JJJ428]

I thought at so much essence you got first vortex bonus, then it took more essence to get 2nd vortex bonus and so forth.

[Coletrain]

I thought at so much essence you got first vortex bonus, then it took more essence to get 2nd vortex bonus and so forth.

This is correct, however to figure this out it would take someone starting completely from scratch and documenting every single sacrifice. Probably simpler to just ask Sparton for the numbers...

[satani]

a lv ~50 GR Eddie gives you about 9800 Points. (I think, it's his rarity). I will definitifely level him to 100 and together with some dupe 4* 80ies (SSD, Pyro Soldier, Gunnter COTD) to get the vortex meter full.
I will post again, when he is maxxed.

Yesterday, my friend hit his vortex meter and got ~20 G/A Souls and lot's of skill shards. (and got 3 eddies: Tailgunner, Navigator and Cyborg), so unlike my last to vortex rounds (on both tabs once) which gave me shards and legendary souls, a good amount of G/A Souls can also be the reward.

[Sidney]

With the new feature “Sacrifice” many new questions arise of how it actually works. I spend some time to try to figure it out and this is what I found so far:

First, get familiar with the terms:

Essence: Each character has an “essence value” attached to it depending on its natural star tier (1* - 5*), level (1-100), character class (Warrior / Magnus / Sentinel vs. Gunner / Assassin) and Ally vs. Eddie.

Note: Characters with Skills Shards get extra “essence value”

Vortex Meter: (From the FAQ) It is long term vortex bonus, each sacrifice will add up in the vortex meter and give you bonus rewards when full.

NOTE: Running some number we can find a pattern between them:

You get an extra 25% essence bonus when you sacrifice an Eddie vs. a non-Eddie character
You get an extra 12.5% essence bonus when you sacrifice a G/A character vs. a non-G/A character

Essence Values:

Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel (non-Eddie)




Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 167
Level 1: 1,800
Level 1: 6,400


Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 240
Level 80: 2,400
Level 100: 8,000


4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 320
5* Level 1: 2,560



5* Level 100: 400
5* Level 100: 3,200




Gunner / Assassin (non-Eddie)



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 188
Level 1: 2,025
Level 1:


Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 270
Level 80: 2,700
Level 100:


4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 360
5* Level 1: 2,880



5* level 100: 450
5* Level 100: 3,600





Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel Eddies



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 209
Level 1: 2,250
Level 1: 8,000


Level 60: 300
Level 80: 3,000
Level 100: 10,000


4* Level 1: 300
5* Level 1: 3,000



4* Level 80: 400
5* Level 100: 4,000



5* Level 1: 400



5* Level 100: 500





Gunner / Assassin Eddies



Natural 3*
Natural 4*
Natural 5*


Level 1: 235
Level 1: 2,530
Level 1: 9,000


Level 60:
Level 80: 3,375
Level 100: 11,250


4* Level 1:
5* Level 1:



4* Level 80:
5* Level 100: 4,500



5* Level 1: 9,000




5* level 100:





SKILL SHARD BONUS ESSENCE: ?

NOTE: Please Help me complete the numbers and let me kow if I made any mistakes.

Thanks!

NOTE2: Wicked Dog King and Queen are giving less points than expected...

I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?

[Enti]

I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?

Soldier Eddie from campaign is Natural 2* and not 5.
Sacrifice does not give essence based on what the actual star level is of the character, but from which level it originated from

Of course you can level everything to 100 but the extra essence earned is marginal therefore does not worth it

[zamasu]

I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?

I believe he's a Natural 4*

EDIT: I see what you're saying. It is a mistake, I put the number in the wrong column ..

[Enti]

You are right in a way

Just like Wickerman Eddie, Soldier Eddie obtained from campaign is 2*

Pulled from a soul he comes at 4*
But I do not know how this is accounted for in terms of sacrifice

[treeb0mbb]

Anyone know how much essence a skill shard does on a natural 4* G/A leveled up to 5* lvl 100?

[Kardas]

Excellent thread.

I can also add that limited time toons (eg; Haunted Pumpkins, Wickerdeer and Possessed Snowmen) give the same amount of Essence as other toons of their star rank.

EDIT: I was also considering writing up a 'guide to guides' thread that can compile not only guides like these but also the more detailed character threads. I would do it, but I think it's best done by someone who are more sure that they'll be around on the forums for some time.

[Chaosego888]

Anyone know how much essence a skill shard does on a natural 4* G/A leveled up to 5* lvl 100? A skill shard is worth 400 essence. Just compared four natural 4 stars leveled to 5 star level 100. Death Dog and Corrupt Ox Cultist give 3600 unsharded. Corrupt Harpy with 1 shard gives 4000 essence, Corrupt Rescuer with 4 shards gives 5200 essence.

[Kardas]

Hey Zamasu, I was toying around with a dupe Storm and Tailgunner Eddie, and I think I can help you fill in some of the remaining Essence values:
For natural 3* G/A Eddies:
4* lv 1: 337
4* lv 80: 450
5* lv 1: 449
5* lv 100: 562

For natural 4* G/A Eddies:
5* lv 1: 3600

[T-Man]

Cool thread.

Beelzebub
5* lv 1: 6400
5* lv 100: 8000

Anybody experiment with multi rewards per tier?
Would be good to know just how much essence it would take at each tier to get multi rewards.

Examples:

Tier 1 sacrifice at 303 essence gave 3 rewards.

Tier 2 sacrifice at 1297 essence gave 2 rewards. Sacrificed 7 3* lv 1 toons.
Upped it to 8 for 1365 essence and still gave 2 rewards.
Need to up that a bit to hit 3 rewards.

That's as far as I got.

[JJJ428]

I think Jofer covered it in another thread if you double the minimum for a tier you get double if you are able to triple the minimum for a tier you get 3.

[T-Man]

I think Jofer covered it in another thread if you double the minimum for a tier you get double if you are able to triple the minimum for a tier you get 3.

That really simplifies things. :cool:
Thanks!

[T-Man]

So the double and triple only work on the tiers 1-2. Anybody experiment with the higher tiers?

[Askora]

So the double and triple only work on the tiers 1-2. Anybody experiment with the higher tiers?

Does not work on tier 6. I think it works on tier 3 but it's been a while since I've tried that one, so not 100% certain.

[T-Man]

Does not work on tier 6. I think it works on tier 3 but it's been a while since I've tried that one, so not 100% certain.

If you triple the minimum of any tier above 2, the amount of essence would lead to the next tier.

[Askora]

If you triple the minimum of any tier above 2, the amount of essence would lead to the next tier.

True. Doubling on tier 6 is no benefit. I think doubling on tier 3 works. Haven't tried it on other tiers.

[bort]

I think it would be super useful to crowdsource the sacrifice tier rewards.

[zamasu]

I will update the thread sometime this week.

And as someone mentioned earlier, if you are able to double or triple the essence you get more rewards.

For example if for a Level II sacrifice you need 500 essence and for Level 3 you need 2,000:

if you get 500 essence you get 1 reward from level II rewards
if you get 1000 essence you get 2 rewards from level II rewards
if you get to 15000 essence you get 3 rewards from level II rewards

if you reach 2,000 then you get 1 reward from Level III rewards

[T-Man]

I will update the thread sometime this week.

And as someone mentioned earlier, if you are able to double or triple the essence you get more rewards.

For example if for a Level II sacrifice you need 500 essence and for Level 3 you need 2,000:

if you get 500 essence you get 1 reward from level II rewards
if you get 1000 essence you get 2 rewards from level II rewards
if you get to 15000 essence you get 3 rewards from level II rewards

if you reach 2,000 then you get 1 reward from Level III rewards

Yes, looking for the numbers for tiers 3+. Thx for the thread btw. :cool:

[HeadOnFire]

Thanks so much for posting this, and to everyone who did all the work to figure this out

[Kardas]

I got an Assassin Child of the Damned the other day, so of course I had to check its 'raw' Sacrifice value:
At 5* lv 1, a non-Eddie natural 5* GA toon will give 7200 Essence.
Your list should now be complete Zamasu!

It may also be a good idea to put in some information of how much Essence the Sacrificial Hearts grant. I can help out a bit with that:

Sacrificial Heart (1*):
1* lv 1: 600 Essence
1* lv 20: 1000 Essence

Strong Sacrificial Heart (3*):
3* lv 1:1049 Essence
3* lv 60: 1500 Essence

Ultimate Sacrificial Heart (5*):
5* lv 1: 3200 Essence
5* lv 100: 4000 Essence

[slauki]

I got an Assassin Child of the Damned the other day, so of course I had to check its 'raw' Sacrifice value:
At 5* lv 1, a non-Eddie natural 5* GA toon will give 7200 Essence.
Your list should now be complete Zamasu!

It may also be a good idea to put in some information of how much Essence the Sacrificial Hearts grant. I can help out a bit with that:

Sacrificial Heart (1*):
1* lv 1: 600 Essence
1* lv 20: 1000 Essence

Strong Sacrificial Heart (3*):
3* lv 1:1049 Essence
3* lv 60: 1500 Essence

Ultimate Sacrificial Heart (5*):
5* lv 1: 3200 Essence
5* lv 100: 4000 Essence

would be cool if we could also add values of the hearts which are leveled from 1* to 5* and from 3* to 5* too. a buddy of mine said 1* heart will bring you 1200 essesce if you level it to 4* 80. so it would be 200 extra value = absolutely not worth the effort.

maybe the situation changes if we check the 3* heart.

[Silentknight]

would be cool if we could also add values of the hearts which are leveled from 1* to 5* and from 3* to 5* too. a buddy of mine said 1* heart will bring you 1200 essesce if you level it to 4* 80. so it would be 200 extra value = absolutely not worth the effort.

maybe the situation changes if we check the 3* heart.
Sacrificial Heart 5☆ Level 100=1400 essence
Strong Sacrificial Heart 5☆ Level 100=1900 essence
Ultimate Sacrificial Heart 5☆ Level 100=4000 essence
Imo, no precious soul is worth doing anything to!

[JJJ428]

Does anyone else feel the ultimate sacrificial heart should give way more essence. When you compare the 1* heart to other 1* toons and the 3* heart to other 3 star toons it seems they give more essence, but comparing the 5* heart to 5* toons its a huge drop off.

[slauki]

Strong Sacrificial Heart 5☆ Level 100=1900 essence
Ultimate Sacrificial Heart 5☆ Level 100=4000 essence
Imo, no precious soul is worth doing anything to!

ty silent. yeah seems that it only makes sense to level them up till their initial level is maxed.


Does anyone else feel the ultimate sacrificial heart should give way more essence. When you compare the 1* heart to other 1* toons and the 3* heart to other 3 star toons it seems they give more essence, but comparing the 5* heart to 5* toons its a huge drop off.

good points, if you consider how rare the 5* heart is, ut would be cool if they would give the same essence like a normal 5* toon.
and the droprates for them are also extremly low. had one 5* heart in all the months. really not sure why they waste their time with these things. they are okay for sure but other things are more relevant, like bug fixing.

[Silentknight]

Oops, no zzz! Added Sacrificial Heart...maxed

[Kardas]

Wait, I'm seeing now that we still need natural 5* GA non-Eddie characters at lv100. Once my CotD is there, I'll let you know.

In other news, a lv60 3* Storm Eddie gives 337 Essence, so that value can be added in too.

[slauki]

Wait, I'm seeing now that we still need natural 5* GA non-Eddie characters at lv100. Once my CotD is there, I'll let you know.

In other news, a lv60 3* Storm Eddie gives 337 Essence, so that value can be added in too.

i think this thread is not updated anymore. maybe we should make a new one...or can someone of the mods maybe edit the numbers in?

[bort]

Wait, I'm seeing now that we still need natural 5* GA non-Eddie characters at lv100. Once my CotD is there, I'll let you know.

In other news, a lv60 3* Storm Eddie gives 337 Essence, so that value can be added in too.

Lvl100 ACotD is worth 9000 essence

[zamasu]

i think this thread is not updated anymore. maybe we should make a new one...or can someone of the mods maybe edit the numbers in?

I'll update the first post

[zamasu]

Excellent thread.

I can also add that limited time toons (eg; Haunted Pumpkins, Wickerdeer and Possessed Snowmen) give the same amount of Essence as other toons of their star rank.

EDIT: I was also considering writing up a 'guide to guides' thread that can compile not only guides like these but also the more detailed character threads. I would do it, but I think it's best done by someone who are more sure that they'll be around on the forums for some time.

A guide to guides will be awesome!


A skill shard is worth 400 essence. Just compared four natural 4 stars leveled to 5 star level 100. Death Dog and Corrupt Ox Cultist give 3600 unsharded. Corrupt Harpy with 1 shard gives 4000 essence, Corrupt Rescuer with 4 shards gives 5200 essence.

Thanks for the info. I added it to the first post


Hey Zamasu, I was toying around with a dupe Storm and Tailgunner Eddie, and I think I can help you fill in some of the remaining Essence values:
For natural 3* G/A Eddies:
4* lv 1: 337
4* lv 80: 450
5* lv 1: 449
5* lv 100: 562

For natural 4* G/A Eddies:
5* lv 1: 3600

Thanks! List is now completed


I got an Assassin Child of the Damned the other day, so of course I had to check its 'raw' Sacrifice value:
At 5* lv 1, a non-Eddie natural 5* GA toon will give 7200 Essence.
Your list should now be complete Zamasu!

It may also be a good idea to put in some information of how much Essence the Sacrificial Hearts grant. I can help out a bit with that:

Sacrificial Heart (1*):
1* lv 1: 600 Essence
1* lv 20: 1000 Essence

Strong Sacrificial Heart (3*):
3* lv 1:1049 Essence
3* lv 60: 1500 Essence

Ultimate Sacrificial Heart (5*):
5* lv 1: 3200 Essence
5* lv 100: 4000 Essence

Added these as we;;


i think this thread is not updated anymore. maybe we should make a new one...or can someone of the mods maybe edit the numbers in?

I was lazy for a while lol

[slauki]

I'll update the first post

thank you very much for keeping this alive :-)