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treeb0mbb
04-02-2017, 12:09 AM
And of course as I'm trying to play a couple of battles in PVP just for fun and see if I can go up another tier before the weekly reset the RNG completely f's me over in the last 4 matchs and I get obliterated. Stunned, taunted, burned you name it I couldn't even go a round and completly lost. The game needs some serious fixing in the RNG terms both for souls and PVP.

These guys who works here are literally just scamming people out of their money with the "souls" they say that you can get good characters which the chances are slim to none. Same with the overpriced packs that they try to sell you for $50 to just get 3 skill shards that you "should" find in secret locations. I've been playing for about 4 1/2 months now and haven't found a single G/A soul or skill shard from secret locations or dungeons if they drop there.

I've spent a decent amount of time in this game playing about 2-3 hours per day at least and still haven't gotten any good toon for PVP or PVE itself to use just a bunch of mediocre stuff that's easily countered with the OP one in a million characters.

I've also recently opened 28 navigator souls 2 legendary and like 10 rare which the only good stuff I got were a dupe set of Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, Assassin pyro, and another dupe HH. Which I'm probably going to sacrifice but to get the full potential of essence it's gonna take me another couple of weeks to grind to get enough evo shards to max them out.

This game is literally another job basically for me that I am actually paying to play.

I think I'm at the breaking point guys game is getting stale after 4 months with no story update it looks like in the near future nor anything sometime soon but some tuning that take a month to make to fix the meta.

I'm probably going to play a couple of more weeks then if there isn't any updates just going to quit I don't have the time currently to play 50 troopers every day, daily rewards, secret locations, inventory management, and a bit of PVP.


Sorry for the long rant probably no one will read this but just my opinion I don't know how you guys still have the will to play this.

Silentknight
04-02-2017, 12:14 AM
And of course as I'm trying to play a couple of battles in PVP just for fun and see if I can go up another tier before the weekly reset the RNG completely f's me over in the last 4 matchs and I get obliterated. Stunned, taunted, burned you name it I couldn't even go a round and completly lost. The game needs some serious fixing in the RNG terms both for souls and PVP.

These guys who works here are literally just scamming people out of their money with the "souls" they say that you can get good characters which the chances are slim to none. Same with the overpriced packs that they try to sell you for $50 to just get 3 skill shards that you "should" find in secret locations. I've been playing for about 4 1/2 months now and haven't found a single G/A soul or skill shard from secret locations or dungeons if they drop there.

I've spent a decent amount of time in this game playing about 2-3 hours per day at least and still haven't gotten any good toon for PVP or PVE itself to use just a bunch of mediocre stuff that's easily countered with the OP one in a million characters.

I've also recently opened 28 navigator souls 2 legendary and like 10 rare which the only good stuff I got were a dupe set of Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, Assassin pyro, and another dupe HH. Which I'm probably going to sacrifice but to get the full potential of essence it's gonna take me another couple of weeks to grind to get enough evo shards to max them out.

This game is literally another job basically for me that I am actually paying to play.

I think I'm at the breaking point guys game is getting stale after 4 months with no story update it looks like in the near future nor anything sometime soon but some tuning that take a month to make to fix the meta.

I'm probably going to play a couple of more weeks then if there isn't any updates just going to quit I don't have the time currently to play 50 troopers every day, daily rewards, secret locations, inventory management, and a bit of PVP.


Sorry for the long rant probably no one will read this but just my opinion I don't know how you guys still have the will to play this.
Give em shit,bud!

R1ck
04-02-2017, 04:04 AM
You are not the only one with that feeling, too much time on this game, big fan of Iron Maiden but wife and kids are first.

powerslave74
04-02-2017, 09:28 AM
And of course as I'm trying to play a couple of battles in PVP just for fun and see if I can go up another tier before the weekly reset the RNG completely f's me over in the last 4 matchs and I get obliterated. Stunned, taunted, burned you name it I couldn't even go a round and completly lost. The game needs some serious fixing in the RNG terms both for souls and PVP.

These guys who works here are literally just scamming people out of their money with the "souls" they say that you can get good characters which the chances are slim to none. Same with the overpriced packs that they try to sell you for $50 to just get 3 skill shards that you "should" find in secret locations. I've been playing for about 4 1/2 months now and haven't found a single G/A soul or skill shard from secret locations or dungeons if they drop there.

I've spent a decent amount of time in this game playing about 2-3 hours per day at least and still haven't gotten any good toon for PVP or PVE itself to use just a bunch of mediocre stuff that's easily countered with the OP one in a million characters.

I've also recently opened 28 navigator souls 2 legendary and like 10 rare which the only good stuff I got were a dupe set of Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, Assassin pyro, and another dupe HH. Which I'm probably going to sacrifice but to get the full potential of essence it's gonna take me another couple of weeks to grind to get enough evo shards to max them out.

This game is literally another job basically for me that I am actually paying to play.

I think I'm at the breaking point guys game is getting stale after 4 months with no story update it looks like in the near future nor anything sometime soon but some tuning that take a month to make to fix the meta.

I'm probably going to play a couple of more weeks then if there isn't any updates just going to quit I don't have the time currently to play 50 troopers every day, daily rewards, secret locations, inventory management, and a bit of PVP.


Sorry for the long rant probably no one will read this but just my opinion I don't know how you guys still have the will to play this.


I agree with you that PvP needs some serious fixing and I also agree that the normal daily grind takes way too much time. I don't play PvP much beyond what is necessary to receive the daily achievement because of time constraints and knowing that I am not going to be able to progress very far.

While I am not against spending money on the game, I refuse to spend $50.00 on just three skill shards. I do not know what it would take for me to spend actual money on skill shards, but I know that it is much more than just three for $50.00. I do not think that I have ever gotten a skill shard from LoL dungeons, I have received a few from secret locations; although it has probably been close to two months since I can remember finding any in those locations.

It sucks that you opened so many souls and did not receive anything useful. It would be nice to see that someone could receive at least one useful or good character from summoning so many souls. I think that it would go a long way to keeping people interested in playing the game if they could receive at least one good toon at least 2.5% of the time when summoning souls that are listed as either rare or legendary. While, I did finally receive some good toons that have potential for PvP when sacrifice finally released, but I had been saving up about 500 regular souls and 80-90 rare souls to do it. I made sure that I sacrificed every possible crappy toon that I had and everything from the regular souls before I began opening everything else that I either had or received. Since I also have an abundance of shards, I maxed out all of the toons at their current level before I sacrificed them just to receive the best bonus possible in sacrifice without spending too much gold. I also got lucky that all of this happened while I had a day off work.

We need either new content soon or a quicker way to play the game to keep players interested in playing the game. As popular as Iron Maiden is worldwide, there is still a finite number of people who will be interested in playing the game. Each one of those players will have a breaking point at which time they will quit the game. I have thought about quitting the game, but I was reinvigorated with the game by receiving some good toons when sacrifice first came out. Not everyone is having the luck I had with sacrifice, and a lot of long time players have quit or are thinking about quitting the game.

Hopefully, we will get some new content released soon, whether it is Night City or Brave New World. I would hate to see you quit the game and would also hate to lose you as a faithful trooper.

Before you decide to quit the game, I would consider cutting back on the number of troopers you have. That way you do not feel so obligated to play the game for so long each day. Either way, I would hate to lose you as a trooper, you have been awesome so far, sharing trooper badges with me everyday. I have the will to keep playing because of my fellow forum members who I feel like are an extended member of my family. I will fight for my troopers until the end, until I have nothing left to give.

I am sorry to everyone, not only did I not mean for this to turn into a rant either, but I am not sure that it makes sense. I just wanted to show support for one of my loyal troopers who seems to be at wits end with the game. If you have any questions about what I have said, please ask here or send me a PM.

Silentknight
04-02-2017, 09:40 AM
I agree with you that PvP needs some serious fixing and I also agree that the normal daily grind takes way too much time. I don't play PvP much beyond what is necessary to receive the daily achievement because of time constraints and knowing that I am not going to be able to progress very far.

While I am not against spending money on the game, I refuse to spend $50.00 on just three skill shards. I do not know what it would take for me to spend actual money on skill shards, but I know that it is much more than just three for $50.00. I do not think that I have ever gotten a skill shard from LoL dungeons, I have received a few from secret locations; although it has probably been close to two months since I can remember finding any in those locations.

It sucks that you opened so many souls and did not receive anything useful. It would be nice to see that someone could receive at least one useful or good character from summoning so many souls. I think that it would go a long way to keeping people interested in playing the game if they could receive at least one good toon at least 2.5% of the time when summoning souls that are listed as either rare or legendary. While, I did finally receive some good toons that have potential for PvP when sacrifice finally released, but I had been saving up about 500 regular souls and 80-90 rare souls to do it. I made sure that I sacrificed every possible crappy toon that I had and everything from the regular souls before I began opening everything else that I either had or received. Since I also have an abundance of shards, I maxed out all of the toons at their current level before I sacrificed them just to receive the best bonus possible in sacrifice without spending too much gold. I also got lucky that all of this happened while I had a day off work.

We need either new content soon or a quicker way to play the game to keep players interested in playing the game. As popular as Iron Maiden is worldwide, there is still a finite number of people who will be interested in playing the game. Each one of those players will have a breaking point at which time they will quit the game. I have thought about quitting the game, but I was reinvigorated with the game by receiving some good toons when sacrifice first came out. Not everyone is having the luck I had with sacrifice, and a lot of long time players have quit or are thinking about quitting the game.

Hopefully, we will get some new content released soon, whether it is Night City or Brave New World. I would hate to see you quit the game and would also hate to lose you as a faithful trooper.

Before you decide to quit the game, I would consider cutting back on the number of troopers you have. That way you do not feel so obligated to play the game for so long each day. Either way, I would hate to lose you as a trooper, you have been awesome so far, sharing trooper badges with me everyday. I have the will to keep playing because of my fellow forum members who I feel like are an extended member of my family. I will fight for my troopers until the end, until I have nothing left to give.

I am sorry to everyone, not only did I not mean for this to turn into a rant either, but I am not sure that it makes sense. I just wanted to show support for one of my loyal troopers who seems to be at wits end with the game. If you have any questions about what I have said, please ask here or send me a PM.
Maybe if they see enough of these posts they'll do something about it...maybe. Yeah man,troopers 1st!!!

mjmxiii
04-02-2017, 08:11 PM
Hey Bombtrees :p hope you stick with the game for a while bro, you've been a great trooper! Don't like seeing so many good people walking away even though I understand why... NF would be pretty lame not listen to the folks on the game forum... I mean if the core heart of the games community isn't enough to get through to them then the game is doomed bro... and probably doesn't deserve to have the loyalty of folks like us anyway!

I read that the new update will have a faster autoplay but I am hesitant to jump through the roof in anticipation for any changes as there always seems to be some kind of one step foward, five steps back issue(s) to go along with updates. Fingers crossed and hoping for new content and that they step away from the real-time PvP Beta testing nerfs after the next update for a while.

Get to the other content that's been dark for far too long NF! We deserve that stuff after months of seeing all the shadow content lingering in perpetual darkness!

treeb0mbb
04-02-2017, 09:07 PM
Man thanks guys for all the replies I appreciate the support. It's just too much waiting for me it feels like for the new content and just having such an unlucky RNG makes me really ticked off.

I love this game also to the core but yea it's been biting me in the ass for a bit lately.

I'll still be here for now guys and using your troopers (all 50) every day I think that's actually the only thing that keeps me going having trooper badges to spend on shards or perhaps save up for a big G/A opening.

Thank you all also for all the badges and support truly appreciate them. I'll be here for now then I guess keep on grinding.

slauki
04-02-2017, 09:32 PM
some weeks ago we had big discussions on how to reduce the time amount needed for the players, because this is getting out of control since pvp started. glad that you bring in the topic again, because
this is one of the core problems of the game. not sure the devs are fully aware of it even the faster autoplay is very welcome i doubt that this will be enough. hopefully they will
put 4x speed or 8x speed into autoplay or some fastpasses.

but to bring in some positivity guys, i see some good development in the past, sacriice is a very nice addition to the game and the arena is also great, when we forget about the big problems that are well known. in addition to this the development at all seems much faster now than months before. i expect BNW in 2-3 weeks, call me an optimist but i think the game will get much better in the upcoming weeks and months.

Tritium
04-02-2017, 09:49 PM
some weeks ago we had big discussions on how to reduce the time amount needed for the players, because this is getting out of control since pvp started. glad that you bring in the topic again, because
this is one of the core problems of the game. not sure the devs are fully aware of it even the faster autoplay is very welcome i doubt that this will be enough. hopefully they will
put 4x speed or 8x speed into autoplay or some fastpasses.

but to bring in some positivity guys, i see some good development in the past, sacriice is a very nice addition to the game and the arena is also great, when we forget about the big problems that are well known. in addition to this the development at all seems much faster now than months before. i expect BNW in 2-3 weeks, call me an optimist but i think the game will get much better in the upcoming weeks and months.

I wholeheartedly agree with slauki here. It seems like the devs ARE paying attention and will be doing some things to change the time-grind necessary to compete in this game. After the autoplay speed adjustments, I hope the next thing on their to-do list will include some way of skipping the battles entirely while receiving the rewards (like the fastpasses slauki mentions). Time will tell, but I am optimistic for the future of LOTB.

powerslave74
04-03-2017, 07:25 AM
some weeks ago we had big discussions on how to reduce the time amount needed for the players, because this is getting out of control since pvp started. glad that you bring in the topic again, because
this is one of the core problems of the game. not sure the devs are fully aware of it even the faster autoplay is very welcome i doubt that this will be enough. hopefully they will
put 4x speed or 8x speed into autoplay or some fastpasses.

but to bring in some positivity guys, i see some good development in the past, sacriice is a very nice addition to the game and the arena is also great, when we forget about the big problems that are well known. in addition to this the development at all seems much faster now than months before. i expect BNW in 2-3 weeks, call me an optimist but i think the game will get much better in the upcoming weeks and months.

Despite my rant, I have mostly been able to stay optimistic too. I just had a bad day at work, lost one of my original troopers who started the game around the same time I did, and then to read treeb0mbb's post was a breaking point for me. Not in the same way that others have reached, I am not near the point where I am ready to quit the game, as frustrating as things have gotten at times I still love playing the game and supporting all of my troopers, but I am tired of seeing others who have been awesome troopers reach their endpoint recently. It was nice to see sacrifice finally arrive in a time frame that I do think was not too far off from what Sparton had told us recently. So, I am thinking that BNW will be out with the update coming next month, maybe sooner since they are removing the talismans from the PvP store. I also look forward to being able to play the game quicker in the near future, hopefully speeding it up a little bit with the next update is just a stepping stone for either 4x or 8x speed; maybe even the idea of fast pass that has been mentioned.

DaveMurray
04-03-2017, 08:36 AM
And of course as I'm trying to play a couple of battles in PVP just for fun and see if I can go up another tier before the weekly reset the RNG completely f's me over in the last 4 matchs and I get obliterated. Stunned, taunted, burned you name it I couldn't even go a round and completly lost. The game needs some serious fixing in the RNG terms both for souls and PVP.

These guys who works here are literally just scamming people out of their money with the "souls" they say that you can get good characters which the chances are slim to none. Same with the overpriced packs that they try to sell you for $50 to just get 3 skill shards that you "should" find in secret locations. I've been playing for about 4 1/2 months now and haven't found a single G/A soul or skill shard from secret locations or dungeons if they drop there.

I've spent a decent amount of time in this game playing about 2-3 hours per day at least and still haven't gotten any good toon for PVP or PVE itself to use just a bunch of mediocre stuff that's easily countered with the OP one in a million characters.

I've also recently opened 28 navigator souls 2 legendary and like 10 rare which the only good stuff I got were a dupe set of Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, Assassin pyro, and another dupe HH. Which I'm probably going to sacrifice but to get the full potential of essence it's gonna take me another couple of weeks to grind to get enough evo shards to max them out.

This game is literally another job basically for me that I am actually paying to play.

I think I'm at the breaking point guys game is getting stale after 4 months with no story update it looks like in the near future nor anything sometime soon but some tuning that take a month to make to fix the meta.

I'm probably going to play a couple of more weeks then if there isn't any updates just going to quit I don't have the time currently to play 50 troopers every day, daily rewards, secret locations, inventory management, and a bit of PVP.


Sorry for the long rant probably no one will read this but just my opinion I don't know how you guys still have the will to play this.

I totally agree, they have to do something with the RNG. At the moment it is impossible to get a decent drop from PvE and good toons from souls.

How can someone be motivated to play and spend money again when he/she is left with 74x3* toons and 4x4* crap toons after 78 naut souls? It's like a joke. I never had so much "bad" luck in a game..
And don't get me started with the PvP, out of 200 matches every week i go first max 40 times and most of them are with "weaker" opponents.
How am i supposed to win and reach a good rank for better rewards when i got no OP toons, i almost never go first, nothing procs for attacker, everything procs 100% for defender(stun, froze, taunt) and i face beast teams?

Old players have almost every toon available because back then RNG was way better but a new player and especially someone who won't spend money at once is doomed and therefore will quit.
No new players when old players quitting, well you can do the math.

P.S. treeb0mbb mate hang in there, even if you are on my list for a week now you are one of the best troopers, let's hope things will get better soon.

scott-5496
04-03-2017, 09:41 AM
Tree you have been a great trooper so I hope you stay on too - I have lost several guys recently and still looking for a couple of troopers to fill my 50 up. I, like others, hope that the game improves - doing troopers need to be a lot faster and with no changes other than making it faster. They still need to fix the Eddie switching in the grind too - why is that not sorted yet? They really need to sort out attack/defence ratios - one of the single biggest issues I think as it has such a massive effect on the charts. Matchmaking is less of an issues as usually see lots of different names on my list though I tend to only get three of the ten having more points than me or higher tier - again that is OK too but could be better?

RNG can kick my ass but on Saturday I had a 74 plus win streak getting to the top 50. I skipped no one and cleared my lists, got my 2 SoW and went to next one and kept going with only I think two close shaves down to last couple of toons. -After reset I had 34 streak and then another 30 streak odd later in the day which put me in the top 20 because only had a handful of people attacking me.....that just is not right or fair on others though I can see that others have benefitted from this in the past too. Is that RNG or just bad game mechanics? I also had odd runs where I had won like 10 coin toss on the trot and then lost 10 on the trot - just really odd stuff that just does not seem RNG, but mad mechanics - but I just do not know how it all works so really no idea!

Anyway try to hold in their tree.....I think with some new content we should have something to play for but they do need to get a move on as the discontent on here seems to grow every week - but I imaging we are a minority that post on here - I am sure there are many thousands of player who just play and do not get involved on here or FB.

I think things will get better with time, we just need to stick at it and not get too down about it all - it is just a game and we can choose to play the minimum required or to go for it - no one is forcing anyone to play I guess so if anyone needs a break, take it, as it is not worth it to get down about a game - life's to short to get hung up on luck or lack of it!

Can you tell I never gamble with real money?

Lets all try to stay positive if we can as I am sure the devs are listening and they want that game to work too as it is there one and only job. No one wants to be part of a team that could not get it done so lets all get behind them (if we can) and hopefully the next month or two will have less daft nerfing and more constructive changes. I do really feel for my Prisoner but even he was feeling bullied by fully sharded GRE's last week - I gave him a cuddle and I am sure his nerf will allow him a quite retirement on the bench.

treeb0mbb
04-03-2017, 04:34 PM
I agree with all of you guys even though the RNG has been really crappy for me this whole time the devs are really supporting this game as of late and trying to roll out new stuff. Which I support greatly and will keep on going because hopefully BNW and night city will come out in the next couple of months. Anyways it just sucks that I haven't been able to get on of the toons I really want to get but need to keep on grinding.

Thank you again guys for the support and discussion hopefully they add a fast pass or something soon in the game it will benefit all of us a lot.

Enti
04-03-2017, 05:04 PM
And of course as I'm trying to play a couple of battles in PVP just for fun and see if I can go up another tier before the weekly reset the RNG completely f's me over in the last 4 matchs and I get obliterated. Stunned, taunted, burned you name it I couldn't even go a round and completly lost. The game needs some serious fixing in the RNG terms both for souls and PVP.

These guys who works here are literally just scamming people out of their money with the "souls" they say that you can get good characters which the chances are slim to none. Same with the overpriced packs that they try to sell you for $50 to just get 3 skill shards that you "should" find in secret locations. I've been playing for about 4 1/2 months now and haven't found a single G/A soul or skill shard from secret locations or dungeons if they drop there.

I've spent a decent amount of time in this game playing about 2-3 hours per day at least and still haven't gotten any good toon for PVP or PVE itself to use just a bunch of mediocre stuff that's easily countered with the OP one in a million characters.

I've also recently opened 28 navigator souls 2 legendary and like 10 rare which the only good stuff I got were a dupe set of Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, Assassin pyro, and another dupe HH. Which I'm probably going to sacrifice but to get the full potential of essence it's gonna take me another couple of weeks to grind to get enough evo shards to max them out.

This game is literally another job basically for me that I am actually paying to play.

I think I'm at the breaking point guys game is getting stale after 4 months with no story update it looks like in the near future nor anything sometime soon but some tuning that take a month to make to fix the meta.

I'm probably going to play a couple of more weeks then if there isn't any updates just going to quit I don't have the time currently to play 50 troopers every day, daily rewards, secret locations, inventory management, and a bit of PVP.


Sorry for the long rant probably no one will read this but just my opinion I don't know how you guys still have the will to play this.


Imagine my disappointment when after sacrificing everything I accumulated I opened 70 rare souls, 30 Nautical, 10 G/A, some warrior/magus/sentinel and 17 legendary (131 in total) and the only 5* characters I received were Aces High Eddie and Assassin CotD; got 4 or 6 new 4* chars and all the rest were dupes...

Also, I've been playing since the global release of the game (July 6th) and it is indeed getting a grindfest. Fortunately my job allows me to use my troopers during work with autoplay, but as you said, there is no storyline, since the game's release LoL was introduced as a new area :( We do need fresh stuff.

treeb0mbb
04-03-2017, 05:27 PM
Imagine my disappointment when after sacrificing everything I accumulated I opened 70 rare souls, 30 Nautical, 10 G/A, some warrior/magus/sentinel and 17 legendary (131 in total) and the only 5* characters I received were Aces High Eddie and Assassin CotD; got 4 or 6 new 4* chars and all the rest were dupes...

Also, I've been playing since the global release of the game (July 6th) and it is indeed getting a grindfest. Fortunately my job allows me to use my troopers during work with autoplay, but as you said, there is no storyline, since the game's release LoL was introduced as a new area :( We do need fresh stuff.


Dang man so many souls and just a couple of really rare troops. They really need to improve the RNG or something because it trully is a hit or miss some people got like 5 navigator eddies from souls when I couldn't even get one.