May 16th 2017 Update Discussion

[Zapathusara]

Nice, just opened a Rare Magus Soul and then... Nothing. No toon. Not in rooster, not after reset the app.

[mjmxiii]

All I know is that after reviewing the Eternals thanks to troopers putting in the time in that buggy PvP arena, I can now say that the Clairvoyant is the best of the four with Eternity Ed coming in a distant second, haven't tried Wrath but hearing he is much like his brother and not great for PvP. Oh and I'm still going after Beelzebub, he just looks cool and want him in my collection.

Would be interested to hear what the forums think about the new chars, performance, preferred, etc... so what's up? Who's the best Eternal?

[gmac]

All I know is that after reviewing the Eternals thanks to troopers putting in the time in that buggy PvP arena, I can now say that the Clairvoyant is the best of the four with Eternity Ed coming in a distant second, haven't tried Wrath but hearing he is much like his brother and not great for PvP. Oh and I'm still going after Beelzebub, he just looks cool and want him in my collection.

Would be interested to hear what the forums think about the new chars, performance, preferred, etc... so what's up? Who's the best Eternal?

Hey man,

I got Beelzebub, I'll put him as my champion so you can test him.

Best toon imo is Wrath, a full sharded one has 75% to remove ALL beneficial effects from ALL toons.

[mjmxiii]

Hey man,

I got Beelzebub, I'll put him as my champion so you can test him.

Best toon imo is Wrath, a full sharded one has 75% to remove ALL beneficial effects from ALL toons.

That would be cool brotha! I tried him with Killhouse so if you prefer a different toon that is ok too... I tried Clairvoyant through SK, she is pretty awesome man, hits hard and has really useful abilities... need to find a trooper with Wrath and an available trooper slot! Two of my legendary troopers have Eternity Ed and he is really cool too, but still, the Clairvoyant is awesome!

[Nicko]

Not only does Wrath remove beneficial effects with his basic, but his Power move can do 10k AoE damage after sharding (depending on Talismans) AND leave 3 marks on every toon. That's' crazy!

Definitely a beast and think he and Clairvoyant are the Eternals of choice for PvP (though not necessarily for defense depending on how AI handles them)

I had a few beers and dumped all my remaining skill shards into Eternity Eddie. Yes he's a damage machine - but when testing against my defense the AI always targets him first - not the greatest thing for an Assassin who's trying to stay alive ;)

[Patrice-1201]

Not only does Wrath remove beneficial effects with his basic, but his Power move can do 10k AoE damage after sharding (depending on Talismans) AND leave 3 marks on every toon. That's' crazy!

Definitely a beast and think he and Clairvoyant are the Eternals of choice for PvP (though not necessarily for defense depending on how AI handles them)

I had a few beers and dumped all my remaining skill shards into Eternity Eddie. Yes he's a damage machine - but when testing against my defense the AI always targets him first - not the greatest thing for an Assassin who's trying to stay alive ;)

Can't wait to play your trooper after the reset ;-)

[Nicko]

Can't wait to play your trooper after the reset ;-)

I just played a Troopers Wrath. He wiped out all the beneficial effects from the SDs in GoD. It's hilarious there was discussion about VE being OP because he has a 50% chance of removing beneficial effects - though he hits like a fruit fly

Then they release a toon who is BETTER than VE (who was so good he "needed" a nerf) yet hits AoE better than almost any toon out there.

If he isn't a PvP breaker I don't know what is. Sometimes you have to wonder about the thought process. Oh well...we'll see how heavy the nerf bat swings

[Tritium]

Sheesh, I'm perplexed as to how this is still happening to you. I think at this point all I can recommend is following up with CS using the in-game Support button, as they'll know more about investigating and solving this issue than me.

I'm confident I'm not the only one. I recall seeing a few other players posting about this bug before as well. I'm probably just the most vocal player about it. :p


I just played a Troopers Wrath. He wiped out all the beneficial effects from the SDs in GoD. It's hilarious there was discussion about VE being OP because he has a 50% chance of removing beneficial effects - though he hits like a fruit fly

Then they release a toon who is BETTER than VE (who was so good he "needed" a nerf) yet hits AoE better than almost any toon out there.

If he isn't a PvP breaker I don't know what is. Sometimes you have to wonder about the thought process. Oh well...we'll see how heavy the nerf bat swings

Yeah, the irony with Wrath's release is palpable haha. He'll actually be EASIER to obtain than VE too (since you have a 25% chance of pulling him every 3-4 weeks), so it'll only take 3 weeks' time before people come out of the woodwork and complain about Wrath being OP. For now, we play the waiting game. :p

[Nicko]

Can't wait to play your trooper after the reset ;-)

Take him with an allied bomber boy and a Nomad. Good times

[Silentknight]

All I know is that after reviewing the Eternals thanks to troopers putting in the time in that buggy PvP arena, I can now say that the Clairvoyant is the best of the four with Eternity Ed coming in a distant second, haven't tried Wrath but hearing he is much like his brother and not great for PvP. Oh and I'm still going after Beelzebub, he just looks cool and want him in my collection.

Would be interested to hear what the forums think about the new chars, performance, preferred, etc... so what's up? Who's the best Eternal?
Clairvoyant...remove worst beneficial effect from enemies...meh! Combined with Visions is pretty awesome! With GRE I've had some incredible come from behind revive shit happening!!! Made of glass & low special stat sucks.

[Nekroliun]

Clairvoyant...remove worst beneficial effect from enemies...meh! Combined with Visions is pretty awesome! With GRE I've had some incredible come from behind revive shit happening!!! Made of glass & low special stat sucks.

Well, u could make a team of the clairvoyant, GR, gunner rescuer and a pharoah water spirit... just sayin...

[Silentknight]

8 levels instead of 12. Finally, last 2 unlocked this am. Got a skill shard outta 1 last night. Although I got a Secret Level skill shard last week...#3 in 9 months I think!

2nd skill shard out of Skull Quests...definitely better drops!

[Jofer16]

2nd skill shard out of Skull Quests...definitely better drops!

Yeah I've got a shard and a few souls so far, totally welcome the increased cost for better rewards, good change.

[Ezz]

Yeah I've got a shard and a few souls so far, totally welcome the increased cost for better rewards, good change.

You guys are lucky. I've just got a bunch of reg souls and dupe Talismans. No skill shards or rare souls here.

[Nicko]

You guys are lucky. I've just got a bunch of reg souls and dupe Talismans. No skill shards or rare souls here.

Me neither

[abbadon]

I also wonder how much Trooper Points they will charge for Trooper Eddie… (25k, 50k…)

I am really puzzled and hope that someone will address this and make it right.

Patrice-1201

I was just thinking this. Ive been trying to play every troopers, and for awhile(certainly not now) been often successful with all 50. Now on afraid it will be something in 100,000+ range, and seeing how there is no time limit on purchases one can spend there entire "savings" at once on skills shards or would, and often must if they can't afford to"pay to win" by purchasing skills packs

[abbadon]

That's the issue I have since August... While I am at work and play on phone (at home I play on laptop), i have to restart after every two battles, just to be sure :D

I had that probable when I would play with a phone or tavlet with1gb ram (game says min 768mb haha) but when I started playing on a 2gb RAM tablet, all fixed. All three on lolipop

[abbadon]

well man i play since day one pvp and i played almost every free sow i had since december now. i also refilled a couple of times and if playing half a year religiously isn't enough to get this souls, something is wrong out there. sure there are guys who are much more hardcore and better than me, so they deserved it for sure but man i'm somewhat hardcore too and for a long time now, and for people like me it's a slap in the face not being able to purchase the soul, because of it's ridiculous price. would be interestinng to see how many players really bought the soul 10, 15, 20 out of 5000 or 10000? LOL!!!!!!!!

i really like the fragments part, so the souls will come in every 3-4 weeks, that not the problem, but this is really bad marketing that disreagards 99,5% of all players. all in all it's a great feature, but the introduction was really poor IMO.

+1

Beat me to it

[Silentknight]

Me neither

Actually, today's came with a rare soul & something else

[Ringe666-7406]

I had that probable when I would play with a phone or tavlet with1gb ram (game says min 768mb haha) but when I started playing on a 2gb RAM tablet, all fixed. All three on lolipop

Thank you kind sir, good to know.

[Tritium]

Sparton, are Explosive talismans supposed to stun for 2 turns when their effects proc? That seems rather unbalanced...They completely stomp Paralysis talismans in their current state.

[Ringe666-7406]

Take him with an allied bomber boy and a Nomad. Good times

Good idea if I get him, because I was actually considering to put ABB (fully sharded looooong time ago) back in team. ABB, CG and Wrath could do wonders. Marks and CC all around :D

[Nekroliun]

So where the hell is final frontier alien eddie?

[Ringe666-7406]

Sparton, no loot on Arena battles, all zeros there for quite some time now...

[Enti]

I see a bug fix update in Apple Store, curious what issues are addressed.

[Silentknight]

Well, u could make a team of the clairvoyant, GR, gunner rescuer and a pharoah water spirit... just sayin...

I can't, no GCR. Got the PWS tho, 5☆ max., no skill shards yet

[scott-5496]

I see a bug fix update in Apple Store, curious what issues are addressed.

Yeah just saw that one too. Updating now. Must be the hot fix thing? They usually do not require a apple store download though and are usually just a restart?

[Nine]

I read this somewhere here already, but since it is really annoying, I'll mention it again: Iron coin gains are bugged - no matter if it says 12, 13 or 15 in the Arena menu I always get 12 coins at the end of every battle - standing at over 2500 points now. No idea how many coins I effectively lost by now because of this.

In other news, everything wrong with the Assassin Rocket Dog:

- Heal block still doesn't block the heal from the (de)buffs I mentioned before, that includes the heal from life talismans

- with immunity talismans equipped the immunity passive doesn't protect other passives (at least I can say it for sure for Troll shields) if you go second against a Prisoner. If you go first it works as intended although the prisoner debuff still shows up on other characters (very strange: the troll shields are cast again at the end of your turn, replacing the ones from the start of the battle. That can have unintended effects...)

- with immunity talismans and only when no (!) prisoner Present the Assassin Rocket Dog doesn't get the Troll's shield. All other characters do. As far as I can see, there is no problem with a Prisoner present

[edit: - also, with regards to endure: while it helps against burns in the turn it runs out, it doesn't help against the burn damage from being frozen, the buff runs out just before the damage comes in, doubt this is intended...]

Oh, and I'd still be interested in the chances of Entrench given buffs to one or two other characters :)


To everybody mentioning MCR basic stealing everything everytime is a bug: it is not. Just very questionable character design. Probability goes up to 100% with shards.

[Ringe666-7406]

To everybody mentioning MCR basic stealing everything everytime is a bug: it is not. Just very questionable character design. Probability goes up to 100% with shards.

Was one of them and yeah, learned that. Still, I call it big load of BS. I sacrifice health, def, MR and what not to equip my toons with buffs I want (strike, immunity, shell, life, doesn't matter at all), and that "lady" just comes cassualy with her 2 rounds immunity and picks all 3-4-5 of them. Or, I use points for CD's shield just so she could steal it three turns in a row and freeze me in the end... If paired with yellow one, god help you, doesn't even matter if you go first or second, you're toast. Remove the buffs as many times as you like, but stealing all of them every turn is highly unfair and OP. Even 100% chance with limited number of buffs she can steal would be better than current state. Just my 0.02$ though.

[MrFreeze]

MCR is 100% with shards.

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Not sure why people feel it's OP. She's good but it's not vaulting me to the top of the rankings. It's not helping my defense much either. Its just that most other characters have been made weak for the sake of "balance". Let's call for buffs instead of nerfs. Bring back the axis commander! Was that name really too offensive? We got all kinds of Satan and an Eddie who rips his heart out. Why the hell was that changed anyway? Bring him back to his original glory!

[Nine]

Was one of them and yeah, learned that. Still, I call it big load of BS. I sacrifice health, def, MR and what not to equip my toons with buffs I want (strike, immunity, shell, life, doesn't matter at all), and that "lady" just comes cassualy with her 2 rounds immunity and picks all 3-4-5 of them. Or, I use points for CD's shield just so she could steal it three turns in a row and freeze me in the end... If paired with yellow one, god help you, doesn't even matter if you go first or second, you're toast. Remove the buffs as many times as you like, but stealing all of them every turn is highly unfair and OP. Even 100% chance with limited number of buffs she can steal would be better than current state. Just my 0.02$ though.

Yeah, won't argue with that. I in fact already met one equipped with Strike Talismans. Sure, her damage goes way down, but it is incredibly effective.

The main problem is that she cannot be countered reasonably because of her passive. At the moment you need one toon to strip immunity off her and another to stun her...with both reliying on chances the odds aren't good. You are also absolutely required to bring a Hellhound/Rocket Dog or you have immediately lost when going first because of perma freeze - unless you are pumped full of Immunity Talismans. All that trouble with a single character...

[Peppoah]

Sparton, could you please check the resistance and resilience talismans. They don't show their effect. Are they working?
Thanks for your effort.

[Ringe666-7406]

MCR is 100% with shards.

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Not sure why people feel it's OP. She's good but it's not vaulting me to the top of the rankings. It's not helping my defense much either. Its just that most other characters have been made weak for the sake of "balance". Let's call for buffs instead of nerfs. Bring back the axis commander! Was that name really too offensive? We got all kinds of Satan and an Eddie who rips his heart out. Why the hell was that changed anyway? Bring him back to his original glory!

Can't recall that I ever complained about any toon being OP (not here anyway). I even liked old Prisoner, was easier to beat than now but this, this... Idk, you can put all six different talis on her and she'd still get every buff, shield or other from enemy. Imho that's everything but fair, but then again, who am I to judge.

[Ian]

MCR is a 4*, she's meant to be good. Yet she is also easily countered. Have not lost to one all week. Just think about what you are doing.

[MrFreeze]

Any changes and she's a bench warmer in my opinion. GCR is fine too. Takes a while to kill but she still dies. Damn SSD with strike talismans are my nemesis. But I wouldn't change that either. Way too much tweaking going on with this game in my humble opinion.

Edit: by the way, I wasn't directly responding to your post Ringe, I just happened to post at the same time. I've seen a lot of comments about her lately and I get scared. The devs love to ruin, I mean balance good characters

[hold]

Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the Death Dog - intended or bug?

Description says that he should remove buffs from up to 2 enemies. Is that 0, 1 or 2 - or should that be at least 2?

I'm experimenting with new attack strategies and have done a few fights with the dog but all he ever does is removing buffs from 1 enemy.

Thanks!

[Ringe666-7406]

Any changes and she's a bench warmer in my opinion. GCR is fine too. Takes a while to kill but she still dies. Damn SSD with strike talismans are my nemesis. But I wouldn't change that either. Way too much tweaking going on with this game in my humble opinion.

Edit: by the way, I wasn't directly responding to your post Ringe, I just happened to post at the same time. I've seen a lot of comments about her lately and I get scared. The devs love to ruin, I mean balance good characters

No offense given or taken dude, I am against her, not against you, you just gave me a foothold to dump a load on her :D

[Ringe666-7406]

Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the Death Dog - intended or bug?

Description says that he should remove buffs from up to 2 enemies. Is that 0, 1 or 2 - or should that be at least 2?

I'm experimenting with new attack strategies and have done a few fights with the dog but all he ever does is removing buffs from 1 enemy.

Thanks!

I'm interested in this too, just pulled him yesterday from fourth vortex... Might be good :D

[Browno]

Newborns of light assasin and warrior also strip buffs and they have passive counterattack procing on other teammates too. Magus cr is fine as she is.

[MrFreeze]

No offense given or taken dude, I am against her, not against you, you just gave me a foothold to dump a load on her :D

Oh man, is she into that kinda thing? I might have to send her to sacrifice.

Seriously though, I'm gonna try putting 2 of them in my defense and see if it goes up from the pathetic 13% it's at right now. I don't think it'll make much difference though. She's pretty easy to take out.

[hold]

Oh man, is she into that kinda thing? I might have to send her to sacrifice.

Seriously though, I'm gonna try putting 2 of them in my defense and see if it goes up from the pathetic 13% it's at right now. I don't think it'll make much difference though. She's pretty easy to take out.

She might be into sacrificial stuff as well! Who knows ...

[Tridimensionale]

Newborns of light assasin and warrior also strip buffs and they have passive counterattack procing on other teammates too. Magus cr is fine as she is.

Agree.. newborns of light are the true cancer of the actual meta....

[OdoyleRules]

Was one of them and yeah, learned that. Still, I call it big load of BS. I sacrifice health, def, MR and what not to equip my toons with buffs I want (strike, immunity, shell, life, doesn't matter at all), and that "lady" just comes cassualy with her 2 rounds immunity and picks all 3-4-5 of them. Or, I use points for CD's shield just so she could steal it three turns in a row and freeze me in the end... If paired with yellow one, god help you, doesn't even matter if you go first or second, you're toast. Remove the buffs as many times as you like, but stealing all of them every turn is highly unfair and OP. Even 100% chance with limited number of buffs she can steal would be better than current state. Just my 0.02$ though.

Steal them back. As Metallica would say it, fight fire with fire. PvP has been for awhile, taking out the main hemorrhoid from the start. < that is my 2 cents, but I am rolling with the Magnus CR.

[Ringe666-7406]

Steal them back. As Metallica would say it, fight fire with fire. PvP has been for awhile, taking out the main hemorrhoid from the start. < that is my 2 cents, but I am rolling with the Magnus CR.

Guess what: got four assassin ones and not a single gunner nor magus :D I can only use WDK to steal them back :D

[hold]

Guess what: got four assassin ones and not a single gunner nor magus :D I can only use WDK to steal them back :D

I had 3 magus CR but sacrificed 2 ... wish I would have kept an additional one :)

[Ringe666-7406]

I had 3 magus CR but sacrificed 2 ... wish I would have kept an additional one :)

Wish they went from your cauldron to my souls :D

[Askora]

Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the Death Dog - intended or bug?

Description says that he should remove buffs from up to 2 enemies. Is that 0, 1 or 2 - or should that be at least 2?

I'm experimenting with new attack strategies and have done a few fights with the dog but all he ever does is removing buffs from 1 enemy.

Thanks!

Hold, it is 0, 1 or 2. A lot of times 2, just have to keep using him. He is part of my primary offense team. Against prisoner defenses he's not so good, since prisoner breaks his passive.


I'm interested in this too, just pulled him yesterday from fourth vortex... Might be good :D

Ringe666, he's worth leveling, probably worth the shards at some point. Mine only has two shards, but he's my GCR killer (drops her shield a lot, plus he hits her hard). Hopefully the next update fixes his damage charge not getting applied to him. I started him on offense before he was even fully leveled up. His damage charge is great, especially if you've got some heavy hitters to go with him. He helps to counter the counterstrike talismans a lot as well.

[Askora]

For Magus CR, my best offense against her is to use a lot of energy talismans. If you can keep the defense energy low, she never gets to freeze. As a bonus, you have plenty of opportunity to use power skills. She can still be tough, but without that freeze, she's manageable. Have to learn to rely on not having all the buffs applied, since more and more characters are stripping those.

[chase20100]

Personally, I don't think it should randomly generate one of the four new rare souls if it is going to take eight weeks for normal players to save the fragments. You should get to choose which soul you want. Even then it would take you eight months to get all four characters.

[JJJ428]

I wanted to see what peoples experience has been with the Cache vs Horde quests. I would think the horde would have better drops but it seems every time the cache gives me better drops. Got only a void talisman on the talisman horde :(

[The Educated fool]

Yeah, I just pulled a single Piercing Talisman as my haul from the horde myself. :rolleyes: I'm definitely not seeing the skill shards drop for me as they have been for others, but what can ya do? :cool:

[Askora]

I wanted to see what peoples experience has been with the Cache vs Horde quests. I would think the horde would have better drops but it seems every time the cache gives me better drops. Got only a void talisman on the talisman horde :(

I've had roughly the same luck with Cache and Horde. Definitely gotten some better drops than I did with the SLs. I finally have a full set of Death Mark talismans, and still a little ways to go before I hit the 1K skull quests (SL) achievement. Until the update I had only one, and I'd gotten that in January. I think I got one from the cache and the other from a horde. So, other than name and cost the rewards seem to be similar.

Now I just have to get my Rainmaker ready.


Yeah, I just pulled a single Piercing Talisman as my haul from the horde myself. :rolleyes: I'm definitely not seeing the skill shards drop for me as they have been for others, but what can ya do? :cool:

I've seen that too. But, I've definitely gotten a few drops that were better than I was seeing with the SLs.

[Ringe666-7406]

Ringe666, he's worth leveling, probably worth the shards at some point. Mine only has two shards, but he's my GCR killer (drops her shield a lot, plus he hits her hard). Hopefully the next update fixes his damage charge not getting applied to him. I started him on offense before he was even fully leveled up. His damage charge is great, especially if you've got some heavy hitters to go with him. He helps to counter the counterstrike talismans a lot as well.

Thanks for the info, dude \m/

[Tritium]

For Magus CR, my best offense against her is to use a lot of energy talismans. If you can keep the defense energy low, she never gets to freeze. As a bonus, you have plenty of opportunity to use power skills. She can still be tough, but without that freeze, she's manageable. Have to learn to rely on not having all the buffs applied, since more and more characters are stripping those. (Emphasis mine).

This. Askora gets it. There are an insane amount of characters who can strip or steal buffs now. Because of this fact, we all must learn how to build solid teams that don't completely rely on their buffs.

Here's a short and by no means exhaustive list of just some examples of characters who can do these things:
Buff stripping toons: Wrath, Clairvoyant, VE, Warrior & Assassin NoL, Death Dog, AoP, Sentinel Allied Soldier, etc.
Buff stealing toons: MCR, Cyborg, Assassin Troll, WDK, etc.

[R1ck]

Wrath is a joke from devs? 75 % remove beneficial effects, put him together with SSD and it becomes taunting fest all over again, oh and in 3 weeks one team that has wrath , the clairvoyant and SSD.
Mmm no sense to me.

[Browno]

Ssd is dead in 1 turn unless most attacks miss it.

[Dank Brew]

I would really like to try wrath... Or any of the newbies really. Could someone please add me?? Even if its just temporary. :D

Tag is in my signature

[slauki]

I wanted to see what peoples experience has been with the Cache vs Horde quests. I would think the horde would have better drops but it seems every time the cache gives me better drops. Got only a void talisman on the talisman horde :(

i think the one that dropps only one talisman (talisman horde) is bugged had this three times in a row and buddies of mine had the same too.
all in all dropps seems much better but this one could be bugged or really bad luck...it would be nice if they would drop immunity shells strike and life too btw...

[Sparton_LOTB]

Sparton, are Explosive talismans supposed to stun for 2 turns when their effects proc? That seems rather unbalanced...They completely stomp Paralysis talismans in their current state.

Hm... Kaz will look into it. We want Grievous Burn to do the same thing everywhere it's applied, so maybe the burn chance on those are a bit high?

The other thing to consider is you're comparing the Skull Quest-available greens to the BNW-available reds, so there's going to be cases (for availability or stat reasons) where you wouldn't necessarily want the reds over the greens.


So where the hell is final frontier alien eddie?

I think we have him planned in conjunction with a specific feature, but I don't know what the timeline is for those.


Sparton, no loot on Arena battles, all zeros there for quite some time now...

We're still investigating the cause for this.


I see a bug fix update in Apple Store, curious what issues are addressed.


Yeah just saw that one too. Updating now. Must be the hot fix thing? They usually do not require a apple store download though and are usually just a restart?

That is the hotfix update we submitted on May 17th (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5699-May-16th-2017-Update-Discussion&p=41196&viewfull=1#post41196) finally making it's way through Apple's approval process.


I read this somewhere here already, but since it is really annoying, I'll mention it again: Iron coin gains are bugged - no matter if it says 12, 13 or 15 in the Arena menu I always get 12 coins at the end of every battle - standing at over 2500 points now. No idea how many coins I effectively lost by now because of this.

Yeah, the Attack List screen is erroneously reporting the iron coins you can earn based on the division you meet the VP threshold for, instead of the division you meet the VP and rank thresholds for. You are earning the correct amount of Iron Coins based on the division you are at the end of the fight, though (10 IC for all of Duelist, 12 IC for Warlord III and II, 13 IC for Warlord I, and 15 IC for all of King and Eternal). We're working on a fix to correct the communication in the Attack List screen, but I don't know if that's making it into our next hotfix update.


In other news, everything wrong with the Assassin Rocket Dog:

[Some things]

I'll pass that along to our QA to investigate. Thanks for the info.


Oh, and I'd still be interested in the chances of Entrench given buffs to one or two other characters :)

There's two chance rolls that occur; one is a 75% chance, and the other is a 45% chance. They target any random ally, so it could pick the same once twice, re-pick the Dog itself and an ally, etc.


Sparton, could you please check the resistance and resilience talismans. They don't show their effect. Are they working?
Thanks for your effort.

We mixed up the descriptions of the set effects and the actual impact of the set effects in the last release. The next hotfix corrects the set effect descriptions to match what they do.

(There's still a bug that set effect bonuses to DEF don't show up, though.)


Maybe somebody can enlighten me about the Death Dog - intended or bug?

Description says that he should remove buffs from up to 2 enemies. Is that 0, 1 or 2 - or should that be at least 2?

I'm experimenting with new attack strategies and have done a few fights with the dog but all he ever does is removing buffs from 1 enemy.

When we say "up to 2 characters" (or similar), it means a randomly picked character twice, but it's two instances of randomly picking, so the same character could get picked.

So if there's characters A, B, C, and D, you might get A and B [2 characters], or C and D [2 characters, or B and B [1 character], etc.

[Nicko]

I know the fixes from the hotfix are listed somewhere - but it's nice just to have screens changing quickly and a snappy response again.

Thanks for getting this out!

[druid138]

I noticed a strange thing with my "80M Gold" Achievement. I was sitting at about 78M before the update, with 24M in current inventory. After the update, the Achievement was unlocked and showed 102M Gold. I'm guessing something with the update added my current inventory back to my cumulative total. I haven't claimed the 160 Ironite that it wants to give me - it feels unearned.

. . .

Okay, so this gets weirder. I sat at the 102.0M Gold mark for a couple days, despite earning about 1M more over that time.

So, I decided to claim the Achievement to see if that would start the counter again. As soon as I claimed it, the new "150M Gold" Achievement level was unlocked. It said I had 151M Gold. Again, I didn't claim it. And, again, I've remained at the 151M mark despite earning a bunch more Gold. Not sure what's going on, but I'm pretty certain my real cumulative gold amount is a little over 80M.

Also, over the same time period, I haven't made any progress towards the "65K SoT" Achievement. I was at 62.0K when the update hit, and it hasn't budged since, despite using about 1K SoT.

Anyone else seeing anything like either of these?

Sparton - would you recommend that I send this in to Support?

druid138-6195

[Sparton_LOTB]

I know the fixes from the hotfix are listed somewhere - but it's nice just to have screens changing quickly and a snappy response again.

Thanks for getting this out!

Yeah, sorry, I've been a bit negligent with the hotfix patch notes and only have it in an earlier comment (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5699-May-16th-2017-Update-Discussion&p=41196&viewfull=1#post41196) right now.

I'll probably collect stuff for that and the next hotfix into once place when the second hotfix goes out.


Okay, so this gets weirder. I sat at the 102.0M Gold mark for a couple days, despite earning about 1M more over that time.

So, I decided to claim the Achievement to see if that would start the counter again. As soon as I claimed it, the new "150M Gold" Achievement level was unlocked. It said I had 151M Gold. Again, I didn't claim it. And, again, I've remained at the 151M mark despite earning a bunch more Gold. Not sure what's going on, but I'm pretty certain my real cumulative gold amount is a little over 80M.

Also, over the same time period, I haven't made any progress towards the "65K SoT" Achievement. I was at 62.0K when the update hit, and it hasn't budged since, despite using about 1K SoT.

Anyone else seeing anything like either of these?

Sparton - would you recommend that I send this in to Support?

No need to contact support for those two things, as we're already aware, but to summarize:


There's an issue with some achievements counting up faster than they should. We should have a fix for this in the next hotfix update.
There's an issue where we're pretty sure the achievement progress is being tracked correctly, but it's just the display of the progress is being rounded down in an incorrect manner. Our QA is still looking into this to verify if this is the case or if it's more along the lines of what you're describing.

[Hypnos]

There's an issue where we're pretty sure the achievement progress is being tracked correctly, but it's just the display of the progress is being rounded down in an incorrect manner. Our QA is still looking into this to verify if this is the case or if it's more along the lines of what you're describing.
[/list]

That must be the case, since mine changed from 62.0K to 63.0K all of a sudden.

[hold]

Hold, it is 0, 1 or 2. A lot of times 2, just have to keep using him. He is part of my primary offense team. Against prisoner defenses he's not so good, since prisoner breaks his passive..

Cheers man! Highly appreciated!

[hold]

Okay, so this gets weirder. I sat at the 102.0M Gold mark for a couple days, despite earning about 1M more over that time.

So, I decided to claim the Achievement to see if that would start the counter again. As soon as I claimed it, the new "150M Gold" Achievement level was unlocked. It said I had 151M Gold. Again, I didn't claim it. And, again, I've remained at the 151M mark despite earning a bunch more Gold. Not sure what's going on, but I'm pretty certain my real cumulative gold amount is a little over 80M.

Also, over the same time period, I haven't made any progress towards the "65K SoT" Achievement. I was at 62.0K when the update hit, and it hasn't budged since, despite using about 1K SoT.

Anyone else seeing anything like either of these?

Sparton - would you recommend that I send this in to Support?

druid138-6195

I claimed the 150 mio ... but I was under the impression that it did count wrong before and suddenly jumped up. Money earned from achievements never counted towards the "money earned" ... I thought that must be the reason that it suddenly counted everything that did not before. I still seemed to be a high jump but I did not write down every gold piece I've earned so far.


Anyway ... the 5 souls from that -> 5x 3* dupes ... so I'm definitely not complaining about getting reset and having another go :D (but that won't happen) ...

[hold]

And not to hide anything or only mentioning bad stuff:

I got a skillshard today from the new SL levels and that was a pleasant surprise. But only normals souls and 5 precious shards. Fine ... can erally live with that. But those talisman levels really do my head. 4 worthless talismans for 20 SoT? I find most bizarre that these are supposed to be the hardest levels ...

On other notes:

Still waiting for red eyes from a 3* soul for quite a while now ...
Lost 2 fights today because of bugs (and that is the thing that annoys me most - losses that aren't your fault - I'm not the only one I guess ...)

[Tritium]

But those talisman levels really do my head. 4 worthless talismans for 20 SoT? I find most bizarre that these are supposed to be the hardest levels ...

You know, you bring up a great point. It would be more worthwhile if we had a chance at pulling 4* or even 5* talismans as well. That, at least, would make it more worth our time and SOT.

I hope Sparton, Kaz, and the team would consider this option!

[hold]

When we say "up to 2 characters" (or similar), it means a randomly picked character twice, but it's two instances of randomly picking, so the same character could get picked.

So if there's characters A, B, C, and D, you might get A and B [2 characters], or C and D [2 characters, or B and B [1 character], etc.

Thanks for that - that brings a lot of light into the dark. So during my tests removing only from 1 was just my weird luck. But as far as I understand it 0 is out of the question. It always should be at least one but not more than 2.

[Ezz]

Are the explosive diarrhea talisman dropping again? I have had 2 in my inventory for like a year, hoping to find a third but have not seen any?

[Sparton_LOTB]

You know, you bring up a great point. It would be more worthwhile if we had a chance at pulling 4* or even 5* talismans as well. That, at least, would make it more worth our time and SOT.

I hope Sparton, Kaz, and the team would consider this option!

Hm.... maybe. I'll keep that in mind.


Thanks for that - that brings a lot of light into the dark. So during my tests removing only from 1 was just my weird luck. But as far as I understand it 0 is out of the question. It always should be at least one but not more than 2.

Correct. The only time you'll remove buffs from 0 enemies is if the Death Dog has Passive Disabled (from either the Prisoner or Eternity Eddie) or is dead at the start of your turn.

[Ignatius92]

Twitter just showed an Immortal Soul event for 48 hours this weekend. Chance to get an Immortal Soul in LOL????

[hold]

@Sparton: Please review Viking at some point - I had it multiple times today that the enemy's Viking did cast "Call to arms" 2 or 3 times in a row - even there was immunity still on and therefore no negative effect in place. I'm happy to fight Mahatma Gandhi from the north but that behaviour also keeps me from putting my Viking into my defense. Thanks

[Killhouse]

@Sparton: Please review Viking at some point - I had it multiple times today that the enemy's Viking did cast "Call to arms" 2 or 3 times in a row - even there was immunity still on and therefore no negative effect in place. I'm happy to fight Mahatma Gandhi from the north but that behaviour also keeps me from putting my Viking into my defense. Thanks

Agreed, have a fully sharded Viking and he's deadly however the AI is horrible. Also Loot is still bugged (don't get me started why an Eddie steals 1 buff but MCR steals all!) and the MR charge is inconsistent. Probably my favorite Eddie.

[hold]

Agreed, have a fully sharded Viking and he's deadly however the AI is horrible. Also Loot is still bugged (don't get me started why an Eddie steals 1 buff but MCR steals all!) and the MR charge is inconsistent. Probably my favorite Eddie.

Did you ever realize that Viking only steals on buff but MCR all of them? :D *scnr*

I had a fully sharded before but put only one more skillshard on him as the MR charge doesn't do anything ... and yes - he is my favourite too - very powerful and use him lots in PvP but in the defense ...

[Killhouse]

Did you ever realize that Viking only steals on buff but MCR all of them? :D *scnr*

I had a fully sharded before but put only one more skillshard on him as the MR charge doesn't do anything ... and yes - he is my favourite too - very powerful and use him lots in PvP but in the defense ...

Hahah ... yes ☹️

I'm good with one I guess, but if only it would steal one like it says. I did the new levels of MR charge anyways, just so he's complete. It sometimes works and you hit for 30k... or other times you spend two turns priming the pump and see no increase...

Also, are there even any other characters that benefit from MR in their skills?

[hold]

Also, are there even any other characters that benefit from MR in their skills?

I was wondering the same for a while ... didn't do a lot of research but I won't know any ... a 2nd Viking?

[druid138]

No need to contact support for those two things, as we're already aware, but to summarize:


There's an issue with some achievements counting up faster than they should. We should have a fix for this in the next hotfix update.
There's an issue where we're pretty sure the achievement progress is being tracked correctly, but it's just the display of the progress is being rounded down in an incorrect manner. Our QA is still looking into this to verify if this is the case or if it's more along the lines of what you're describing.


Cool, thanks!

druid138-6195

[druid138]

Twitter just showed an Immortal Soul event for 48 hours this weekend. Chance to get an Immortal Soul in LOL????

Yep, looks like it lasts for 48 hours after weekly reset. Time to get less ambitious about my non-LotB weekend plans. I see a Rainmaker in my future.

Sorry for the primitive link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ironmaidenlotb/status/865677841072930816

druid138-6195

[Sparton_LOTB]

Twitter just showed an Immortal Soul event for 48 hours this weekend. Chance to get an Immortal Soul in LOL????


Yep, looks like it lasts for 48 hours after weekly reset. Time to get less ambitious about my non-LotB weekend plans. I see a Rainmaker in my future.

Sorry for the primitive link:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ironmaidenlotb/status/865677841072930816

Yeah, I just posted a forum thread (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5726) for the event with additional details and to discuss the event in. Good luck nabbing those 5 star Eddies this weekend!


@Sparton: Please review Viking at some point - I had it multiple times today that the enemy's Viking did cast "Call to arms" 2 or 3 times in a row - even there was immunity still on and therefore no negative effect in place. I'm happy to fight Mahatma Gandhi from the north but that behaviour also keeps me from putting my Viking into my defense. Thanks

I've passed that along to Kaz, and he says he'll have a look.

[MetalWarrior]

Dog of war has bug,it has been for a while now,not specific to that update. whenever powermove is selected, game loses all the action controls.
selecting characters, change speed choices,autoplay are still available.but really nothing happens. game halted.
only way to out of it is ,choose exit from the (gear) setting.(tested only at pvp, happens on average 35% times ;))

[Tritium]

Sparton, do you happen to have an exact date on when the strike and life talismans will be leaving the PVP store?

[Ringe666-7406]

Sparton, do you happen to have an exact date on when the strike and life talismans will be leaving the PVP store?

Next reset I guess... Not tomorrow, in 8 days...

[Killhouse]

Next reset I guess... Not tomorrow, in 8 days...


PM box is full.

[Sparton_LOTB]

Dog of war has bug,it has been for a while now,not specific to that update. whenever powermove is selected, game loses all the action controls.
selecting characters, change speed choices,autoplay are still available.but really nothing happens. game halted.
only way to out of it is ,choose exit from the (gear) setting.(tested only at pvp, happens on average 35% times ;))

I'll pass that along to our QA to investigate.


Sparton, do you happen to have an exact date on when the strike and life talismans will be leaving the PVP store?


Next reset I guess... Not tomorrow, in 8 days...

Ringe666 is correct; the Strike and Life Talismans will no longer be available in the PVP Store when reset hits at May 27th at 5 PM PT.

[Patrice-1201]

Sparton left you a Private Message ;-)

[Ringe666-7406]

Ringe666 is correct; the Strike and Life Talismans will no longer be available in the PVP Store when reset hits at May 27th at 5 PM PT.

Aside from that, thanks for this Eddie event, Sparton, you guys rock. I'll finally be able to get my first natural 5* Eddie, aside from GR. Keep up the good work \m/

[Tritium]

Ringe666 is correct; the Strike and Life Talismans will no longer be available in the PVP Store when reset hits at May 27th at 5 PM PT.

Thanks for confirming. I'm glad you take the time to communicate with us so frequently!

[druid138]

Ringe666 is correct; the Strike and Life Talismans will no longer be available in the PVP Store when reset hits at May 27th at 5 PM PT.

Thanks! It might be good to update the in-game News banner with that date. I've seen several different dates thrown around by different users in the various LotB platforms (here, FB, etc.), creating confusion.

druid138-6195

[Sparton_LOTB]

Thanks! It might be good to update the in-game News banner with that date. I've seen several different dates thrown around by different users in the various LotB platforms (here, FB, etc.), creating confusion.

Yeah, I've prodded the peep who handles the news feed, so hopefully we can get that updated for English and localized soon after.

[Nine]

There's two chance rolls that occur; one is a 75% chance, and the other is a 45% chance. They target any random ally, so it could pick the same once twice, re-pick the Dog itself and an ally, etc.


Hey Sparton, thanks for the info!

Adding to the Bugs (probably related to the ones in the original post, but maybe additional info helps):

- My Rocket Dog doesn't get an Immunity buff when there is no other passive in the team and he is equipped with an Immunity Talisman (so he should actually get two, which "cancel" each other out), all other team members get the buff from the passive. Happens consistently in PvE

- Just had the case that not even the Immunity passive worked against the Prisoner although the Rocket Dog was protected by an Immunity Talisman. Went second against Prisoner, Angel of Fear, SSD and Pharao. Happened two times in a row against the same team, I can PM you the player if that helps... [Edit2: happens against other teams as well (MCR, GGS, GRE, Prisoner), guess it is due to the hotfix...yay]

Mabye someone here could adress if that is an issue for the Hellhound as well?

Edit: Now my Assassin Dog's passive doesn't protect my Troll's passive even when going first. In the match right now: I go first against a Prisoner, ARD's passive works because he wears immunity talismans, but I don't get any shields from the Troll.
Maybe something in the hotfix made it worse

[Ringe666-7406]

And NoL's (warrior's at least) passive is not back after Prisoner is dead. Not a single time revenge triggered in three consecutive battles when I payed attention.

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And NoL's (warrior's at least) passive is not back after Prisoner is dead. Not a single time revenge triggered in three consecutive battles when I payed attention.

APMA error just gained you a victory ... nice all those bugs ... can't get into the server now ...

edit: can now again ...

And again APMA against you ... WTF is going on today?

I think I'm done fighting for 10th place with this instability of the server ... no fun at all.

[Enti]

Well, the skull quests are really interesting...
So far I gained 1 rare soul and 15 precious fragments on main acct, while my alt already cashed in 3 skill shards, a rare soul, a warrior soul and 20 fragments.

I'll be tracking the rewards gained for a couple weeks as I don't want to jump to conclusions whether the skull quests are good or not, especially with the huge discrepancy between my two accounts' rewards

[Silentknight]

Well, the skull quests are really interesting...
So far I gained 1 rare soul and 15 precious fragments on main acct, while my alt already cashed in 3 skill shards, a rare soul, a warrior soul and 20 fragments.

I'll be tracking the rewards gained for a couple weeks as I don't want to jump to conclusions whether the skull quests are good or not, especially with the huge discrepancy between my two accounts' rewards

Definitely better drops! Plus now u can pick whether to play em or not. Don't really need evo or xp for that matter, so y play em!

[Nekroliun]

Well, the skull quests are really interesting...
So far I gained 1 rare soul and 15 precious fragments on main acct, while my alt already cashed in 3 skill shards, a rare soul, a warrior soul and 20 fragments.

I'll be tracking the rewards gained for a couple weeks as I don't want to jump to conclusions whether the skull quests are good or not, especially with the huge discrepancy between my two accounts' rewards

Personally ive been having a great time with skull quests, got 2 rare souls, a warrior soul, a magus soul, 2 skillshards, 6 3* evo runes, 9 3* evo shards (or the opposite, dont really remember), got quite the pile of precious soul fragments (i think i got 35) and useless shit!

[Nekroliun]

Definitely better drops! Plus now u can pick whether to play em or not. Don't really need evo or xp for that matter, so y play em!

from my experience, they also drop soul fragments. Got 5 precious from xp cache today

[Silentknight]

from my experience, they also drop soul fragments. Got 5 precious from xp cache today

Yep, me too. I still play em all! Just sayin

[Nicko]

May I ask the though process behind Wrath?

I would have loved to have been in the Nodding Frog think tank

Mike: "Golly - there are gripes that Visions Eddie is overpowered. He has a 50% chance to remove beneficial effects. That IS too much, even though he's a 5* Eddie and hits like a houseplant."

Ed: "I agree. He needs a Nerf. Hey - I forgot to mention - I had a great idea for a toon that has a 75% chance to remove all beneficial effects with a power move as brutal as Tailgunners Fury. What do you think?'

Mike: "Awesome idea! Players will love it. Great thinking Ed!"

[Ringe666-7406]

APMA error just gained you a victory ... nice all those bugs ... can't get into the server now ...

edit: can now again ...

And again APMA against you ... WTF is going on today?

I think I'm done fighting for 10th place with this instability of the server ... no fun at all.

Sorry to hear that dude. As much as I was thrilled to see them holds, I am not happy with the way they were "earned". Or maybe Wrath has some hidden scaling to cause APMAs :D And this brings us back to the story of wanting to know how many of our defensive victories are actually from crashes...

[R1ck]

May I ask the though process behind Wrath?

I would have loved to have been in the Nodding Frog think tank

Mike: "Golly - there are gripes that Visions Eddie is overpowered. He has a 50% chance to remove beneficial effects. That IS too much, even though he's a 5* Eddie and hits like a houseplant."

Ed: "I agree. He needs a Nerf. Hey - I forgot to mention - I had a great idea for a toon that has a 75% chance to remove all beneficial effects with a power move as brutal as Tailgunners Fury. What do you think?'

Mike: "Awesome idea! Players will love it. Great thinking Ed!"

Haha , yes, players will love him, will go for him, will shard him, and then will be nerfed

[slauki]

Haha , yes, players will love him, will go for him, will shard him, and then will be nerfed

yep very obvious nerf candidate, but man i don't know how this can happend...adjusting visions and introducing wrath at the same time? come on guys, that's a serious one....

[Nicko]

Haha , yes, players will love him, will go for him, will shard him, and then will be nerfed

It DOES let us get a feeling for how those without Prisoners felt in PvP ;)

But nerfing the Gimp - nerfing VE - and then introducing this guy? Why bother nerfing the others - it doesn't add up. I think someone mentioned that the Eternals were cool because they were strong but not game breaking. I would argue that's true with the exception of Wrath.

Almost any of the regulars here would have flagged this as ridiculous. i'm not sure how something like this slips through the cracks.

Fortunately there are only a few of them out there - for now...

[Nicko]

There's already a defense out there combining him with an Allied Bomber Boy. That makes 100% chance to remove beneficials. If he goes first - you lose every single buff.

Wtf?

At least if the prisoner was left unnerfed there'd be a way to combat this to a slightly less ridiculous level. With immunity talismans there isn't. You may get lucky with a Death Dog - you may not.

[Killhouse]

There's already a defense out there combining him with an Allied Bomber Boy. That makes 100% chance to remove beneficials. If he goes first - you lose every single buff.

Wtf?

At least if the prisoner was left unnerfed there'd be a way to combat this to a slightly less ridiculous level. With immunity talismans there isn't. You may get lucky with a Death Dog - you may not.


Haha yes, I lost to that one too and the next time it came up in a list I ended the win streak since it's a sure loss going second. Maybe I'll experiment with it next week when points are less important... if I can't think of anything to do other than go first. All protection gets removed... maybe a team of 3 harpys that can't get stunned???

And I'll add it's not the players fault, they're being creative in coming up with the team.

Also, I'll argue that beelzebub is not powerful in ANY way... weak HP, bad talisman slots, weak damage, and a fury that's the same as nomad but no damage and in turn gives gurenteed vanish... which typically just gets removed anyways.

[Ringe666-7406]

Fortunately there are only a few of them out there - for now...

Counted all eternals in top100 yesterday (and I doubt there is any below): 11 of them in total. And yeah, that def with Wrath and ABB is tough af. Literally gives the player feeling of having gimp before he was nerfed. Wrath's Fury is a major laughter though, I think basic does more damage :D

[Nicko]

Haha yes, I lost to that one too and the next time it came up in a list I ended the win streak since it's a sure loss going second. Maybe I'll experiment with it next week when points are less important... if I can't think of anything to do other than go first. All protection gets removed... maybe a team of 3 harpys that can't get stunned???

And I'll add it's not the players fault, they're being creative in coming up with the team.

Also, I'll argue that beelzebub is not powerful in ANY way... weak HP, bad talisman slots, weak damage, and a fury that's the same as nomad but no damage and in turn gives gurenteed vanish... which typically just gets removed anyways.

I went second - all buffs wiped - yet beat it with two Harpies - but if Ringe puts shells on those mages - I would have been sunk ;)

[Ringe666-7406]

I beat it with two Harpies - but if Ringe puts shells on those mages - I would have been sunk ;)

It's either shell or immunity, can't have both :/

@killhouse: sorry for the streak, I was really surprised to see that joke of a glass cannons held you, carlos, gmac and Beto :D As for the harpies, might be good idea, but there is always good ol' Rocket Doge with a couple of Burning sets :o

[Silentknight]

Shouldn't we be used to this by now! Same shit every update or intro of new toons. Said b4, tired of devs deciding who wins or who has the best toons! Can't complain bout Clairvoyant.. until they nerf her! Maybe not tho, she needs support

[Askora]

There's already a defense out there combining him with an Allied Bomber Boy. That makes 100% chance to remove beneficials. If he goes first - you lose every single buff.

Wtf?

At least if the prisoner was left unnerfed there'd be a way to combat this to a slightly less ridiculous level. With immunity talismans there isn't. You may get lucky with a Death Dog - you may not.

I feel the same about the Assassin and Warrior NBoLs. There proc rate still seems ridiculously high and the only effective way to neutralize them relies purely on chance (with much lower proc rates) without the prisoner. Most of the other characters there are several effective ways to counter.

[Killhouse]

It's either shell or immunity, can't have both :/

@killhouse: sorry for the streak, I was really surprised to see that joke of a glass cannons held you, carlos, gmac and Beto :D As for the harpies, might be good idea, but there is always good ol' Rocket Doge with a couple of Burning sets :o

Haha no worries! It's fun facing new challenges and I got you back now. Couldn't resist.

[Silentknight]

At least if the prisoner was left unnerfed there'd be a way to combat this to a slightly less ridiculous level. With immunity talismans there isn't. You may get lucky with a Death Dog - you may not.
Think I said that too...gunna need the prisoner! Can they sew em back on??? OUCH!!!

[Ringe666-7406]

APMA error just gained you a victory ... nice all those bugs ... can't get into the server now ...

edit: can now again ...

And again APMA against you ... WTF is going on today?

I think I'm done fighting for 10th place with this instability of the server ... no fun at all.

Seems like you finally bypassed APMAs :D \m/

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Seems like you finally bypassed APMAs :D \m/

3 against you today ... *argh* probably the Wrath responsible for them ... fun team you have ... :)

[Ringe666-7406]

3 against you today ... *argh* probably the Wrath responsible for them ... fun team you have ... :)

Thanks man :D

[Ringe666-7406]

It would be great to see three Eternals on the next poster though :D

[mjmxiii]

Can more than 11 people have Eternals before the cries for the NerF Bat begin?

LMAO! Can't have any nice things! 😆

[Tritium]

Did Wrath always have the ability to remove beneficial effects in the campaign? Or was he changed with the recent update? I honestly can't remember due to how long ago I faced the guy. I'm wondering how tough he'll be in PVE for newer players, but then again, he may have always had that remove beneficials effect and be fine in PVE. He definitely shines in PVP with the right team.

I have to agree with Nicko on the irony of Wrath being released after VE's nerf. Wrath, no doubt about it, is the best toon to pull from the Eternal Souls. Beelzebub needs a buff.

[Ezz]

Well, the skull quests are really interesting...
So far I gained 1 rare soul and 15 precious fragments on main acct, while my alt already cashed in 3 skill shards, a rare soul, a warrior soul and 20 fragments.

I'll be tracking the rewards gained for a couple weeks as I don't want to jump to conclusions whether the skull quests are good or not, especially with the huge discrepancy between my two accounts' rewards

Yeah the discrepancies here are vast. For me so far no skillshards, no rare souls, and only 25 precious fragments.

My sons account though, 2 skillshards, 2 rare souls, and he just got his first 50 precious fragments and cashed them in.

I get that it's random but that seems really out of balance.

[Nekroliun]

Well yesterday i got the gold achievement's 4th tier i think. Well shit, need 150m for the next one!

For some reason i just opened the game and had 146m out of 150m! Quit the game and came back and now i had 150m ready! My gold hasnt changed! But i got 5 souls! Guess what! Harpies for days!

[Tritium]

Well yesterday i got the gold achievement's 4th tier i think. Well shit, need 150m for the next one!

For some reason i just opened the game and had 146m out of 150m! Quit the game and came back and now i had 150m ready! My gold hasnt changed! But i got 5 souls! Guess what! Harpies for days!

Harpies, huh? You better keep quiet about pulling them or the hordes of owl cultists will get jealous and turn on you. ;)

[Ezz]

Seems to be a problem with the count of soul fragments? Everyone should check their counts.

Thought for sure I had collected 35 precious fragments but book of souls shows 25 along with 20 eternity fragments. Sure enough though the achievement scale shows 55 of 100 collected toward a prize.

Where did my 10 precious frags go? Anyone else seeing this issue?

[mjmxiii]

Seems to be a problem with the count of soul fragments? Everyone should check their counts.

Thought for sure I had collected 35 precious fragments but book of souls shows 25 along with 20 eternity fragments. Sure enough though the achievement scale shows 55 of 100 collected toward a prize.

Where did my 10 precious frags go? Anyone else seeing this issue?

Hmmm yes, was sure I had 150 Eternal fragments yesterday, now I'm only showing 20?? WTF? ...Lmao! :p

[Ezz]

Hmmm yes, was sure I had 150 Eternal fragments yesterday, now I'm only showing 20?? WTF? ...Lmao! :p

Jokes aside, check you BOS inventory against the achievement count. Mine are off and there is no way that's mathematically possible this early in the process.

[ritchbe]

Hmmm yes, was sure I had 150 Eternal fragments yesterday, now I'm only showing 20?? WTF? ...Lmao! :p

The fragments count is definitely off and achievements show one number, BoS shows 20/20

[mjmxiii]

Jokes aside, check you BOS inventory against the achievement count. Mine are off and there is no way that's mathematically possible this early in the process.

Actually yes, you are right... but my achievements are showing that I have collected 65 fragments when I only have 20 Eternal and 35 Precious souls collected. Would seem like cheating if I didn't mention this. @Sparton, please take note. Thanks for the heads up Ezz! I do remember some mention of the Achievements page having bugs, but not in regards to this, good eye bud!

Edit: I meant to type fragments, not souls...

Edit 2: actually a bit confused now because the achievement says Fragment Finder III but I don't remember one or two being there.... bugs... gotta be

[Enti]

Sparton, thank you for all your answers for me and others in the past couple weeks. Can you please take a look at a new issue I found? Wanted to log into my alt account on mobile, when I entered all the locations were shown as being completed, whereas I am nowhere near finishing. This also prevented me from advancing, so I wanted to log back to my main account, and facebook login did not work - had to uninstall & reinstall the game.

Also, I claimed the reward for 150M gold but did not deserve it (I don't normally check what achievement is completed before I claim), and used the 5 rare soul as well. Dunno if you guys want to roll it back, I just got dupes again so no overall befenit for me - will let you decide if a rollback is needed on that or not :)

As for Wrath:
I totally agree with Nicko and all others about the purge rate and the making comparisons between Wrath & Prisoner era

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[mjmxiii]

Also, I claimed the reward for 150M gold but did not deserve it (I don't normally check what achievement is completed before I claim), and used the 5 rare soul as well. Dunno if you guys want to roll it back, I just got dupes again so no overall befenit for me - will let you decide if a rollback is needed on that or not :)


Shit, I think I claimed 5 souls earlier in the week too... happened after the 100k in gold from one of the skull locs so I thought I earned it because I knew I was close but that would kinda suck if it was a bug!

[Nine]

So for whatever reason Strike Talisman (fierce) is locked for me without purchasing one this week - it is the only item with issue and I am really questioning my memory but I swear it wasn't locked 2 days ago.

Hours before the reset and with them vanishing next week that is very...suboptimal.

[Ezz]

So for whatever reason Strike Talisman (fierce) is locked for me without purchasing one this week - it is the only item with issue and I am really questioning my memory but I swear it wasn't locked 2 days ago.

Hours before the reset and with them vanishing next week that is very...suboptimal.

Keep logging out and logging in. My items lock and unlock at times for no apparent reason. Unfortunate it's so close to the reset, but hopefully it unlocks prior to time up.

[Ubajoa]

My phone updated to android 7.0 and now the game crashes incredibly often, 1 crash every 3 or 4 arena matches. I can't play like this. Is there any way to downgrade the android version??

[HomemLivre]

My phone updated to android 7.0 and now the game crashes incredibly often, 1 crash every 3 or 4 arena matches. I can't play like this. Is there any way to downgrade the android version??

Carlos, try to play with a Android Emulator, its working fine with Nox.
Hope that helps.

[Tritium]

MEmu on Lollipop also runs smoothly.

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MEmu on Lollipop also runs smoothly.

Anyone has experience with an working Android emulator and LoTB on Linux? I tried Genymotion briefly but that didn't work ... so back on my tablet ... that is really slow - it's from 2013 so I would prefer a faster device :)

[HomemLivre]

Exciting run between Gmac and Ringe! Congrats both of you, was awesome to watch!
I believe that nobody interfered in this battle, it was really cool!

Edit: Congrats on Killhouse to for the Eternal, most deserved!

Cheers

[gmac]

Exciting run between Gmac and Ringe! Congrats both of you, was awesome to watch!
I believe that nobody interfered in this battle, it was really cool!

Cheers

Killhouse, excellent work all week. Brilliant! Congrats! Much deserved one.

Tried to join you up there but was denied by Ringe!!! lol

Ringe, thanks for the fight man, awesome. This is what it's all about. And hell of a defense you got running. Congrats as well. :)

Chees
gmac

[JJJ428]

I been wanting to ask has anyone seen a lot more lag in the book of souls since this update and the updated soul art. Its almost impossible for me to try to use the souls anymore cause of how badly it hangs up.

[HomemLivre]

I been wanting to ask has anyone seen a lot more lag in the book of souls since this update and the updated soul art. Its almost impossible for me to try to use the souls anymore cause of how badly it hangs up.

Working fine for me, man!


Edit: Whats not working again is the possibility to buy souls and skill shard from arena store...

[Tritium]

Congrats on Eternal rank, Killhouse! Well done and much deserved, man! :)

[Jofer16]

Killhouse, excellent work all week. Brilliant! Congrats! Much deserved one.

Tried to join you up there but was denied by Ringe!!! lol

Ringe, thanks for the fight man, awesome. This is what it's all about. And hell of a defense you got running. Congrats as well. :)

Chees
gmac

Grats Killhouse! Nice to see another Trooper win, and a great player :)

Yeah that battle between you and Ringe was epic I saw you climbing and was looking forward to it. I raced him earlier in the day for 3rd and we passed Carlos and kept going for 2nd lol Been awhile since I had a fun challenge and been pouring rain here all damn day so figured what the hell lol Definetly wasn't a walk in the park getting past him, he's a good player. Thought you had 3rd up until the end there!

Fun day though :) Time for some auto grinding LoL X.

[JJJ428]

just when i am in the book of soul its very laggy like almost impossible to drag the souls over . Takes mutliples times to get one soul moving. Before update was much smoother for me. Plus cycling from soul count to soul count hangs up as well.

[HomemLivre]

I dont know for sure what to think about this event...
12 LoL (10) runs in a row without a single fragment? Hummm...

[Killhouse]

Thank you everyone!

Very kind words and appreciate the support over the last few days! The attacks were relentless and defense was bashed into the ground after the update... tried the old big gap strategy to deter others and still had some great players give me motivation to climb higher, FallenAngel (welcome to the forums), Carlos, and then Gmac and Jofer always a threat with their ability for speed clearing. Big shout out and props to Ringe666, epic run with Gmac for third, great defense and I see the potential to claim Eternal with Wrath.

Well, fun tidbit, my last time at Eternal was December 24th, week two of the Beta and first to achieve the Eternal rank. Don't think I'll be trying again for some time and will enjoy this one!

Time to farm fragments now!

PS legendary turned into another GCR, totally putting in a triple GCR defense this week!

Thanks for reading

K.House

[Azteca]

I think this update is full of bugs. It has made the game extremely buggy for me, and I'm on a recently released device. I also think this event is pathetic. I have played a lot, and I haven't gotten many fragments. I think Nodding Frog are f*cking Iron Maiden fans over and trying to screw them out of their money at any given chance. I bet Bruce and the boys have no knowledge of this, because I'm sure they wouldn't be happy. Especially seeing the Manager's views on third party ticket sites. The drop rates are disgusting and the in-app purchase prices are preposterous. Sh*t value for what they are. For the price of those in-app purchases you should be able to CHOOSE ANY character you want. These idiots at nodding frog are too busy trying to f*ck fans out of money, and charging stupid amounts, when they can't even develop a decent update. Stop focusing on f*cking Iron Maiden fans out of their money and start working on the actual game. That's my 2 cents on the issue.

[IceManFerrar]

Congrats, Killhouse, well done man. Hats off to you on the stellar playing all week long...respect indeed, mate!

Enjoy the bubbly, lol!

[Kamuz24z]

Congrats killhouse for the Eternal well done man

[PerthEddie]

Congrats Killhouse on getting Eternal :)

[DaveMurray]

Wtf is going on with those errors? Yesterday i lost about 10 pvp fights from errors, the whole week about 25, that's 400-500 points lost. Today 12 attacks 5 already lost from errors. Give me a break. Wrath is always causing battle to freeze.
Before it was the lame point system, now errors all the time..

P.S. Gratz killhouse for the eternal and sorry for attacking you so many times but you and a few others(Jofer, Patrice, Carlos, gmac) were on every list.

[Ringe666-7406]

Thank you all on congrats guys, but biggest congrats goes to Killhouse who put Mjolnir on 1st place at the very beginning of the week and nobody could move it from there. Sincerely, I doubt I will ever chase Eternal, especially after this :D I just wanted to get to the poster for one time when I already made a great foothold by playing for that 20 grand. Gmac, great run, I thought you'd get me since you are more experienced in this runs. A trooper of mine told me at one point "Stop chasing Jofer, it's the same being 2nd and 3rd" and I said "I know that's the same and I know he is too fast, but I'm not chasing him, I'm trying to run away from Gmac" :D

Btw, funny thing: Can you guys guess The Number of the Battles I had in the end :D

[DaveMurray]

Thank you all on congrats guys, but biggest congrats goes to Killhouse who put Mjolnir on 1st place at the very beginning of the week and nobody could move it from there. Sincerely, I doubt I will ever chase Eternal, especially after this :D I just wanted to get to the poster for one time when I already made a great foothold by playing for that 20 grand. Gmac, great run, I thought you'd get me since you are more experienced in this runs. A trooper of mine told me at one point "Stop chasing Jofer, it's the same being 2nd and 3rd" and I said "I know that's the same and I know he is too fast, but I'm not chasing him, I'm trying to run away from Gmac" :D

Btw, funny thing: Can you guys guess The Number of the Battles I had in the end :D

666 i guess?

[Ringe666-7406]

666 i guess?

You guessed right, sir :cool: Didn't even notice until an hour ago, last night was still thrilled and went to sleep , and when I got up went to check my def % of the last week and saw that :D

[fred10141988]

Yeah, I've prodded the peep who handles the news feed, so hopefully we can get that updated for English and localized soon after.

Hi Sparton, could you explain to me about the skill "take" of Visions Eddie?

Why now just "35% to remove up to 3 beneficial effects" ?

Where is steal? Or maybe back to old one, no steal but 50% to remove beneficial effects.

[HomemLivre]

...and, how are the Immortal souls going?

Just got a Vampire Hunter Eddie for 500 fragments.

I will try going for another soul, hope this isn't a one-soul event :)

It isn't, already got the VHE and another Viking.

I think that you can redeem how many souls your able to.

[Nicko]

Some have already claimed 5 Eddies

[IceManFerrar]

Some have already claimed 5 Eddies

Wow Nicko, are the drop rates for the Immortal Soul fragments really that good? Which levels are the best...8-10 are a pain because of the 8 SoT cost...

[Browno]

I farmed number 10 all day on auto and got 5 souls.

[Nicko]

Wow Nicko, are the drop rates for the Immortal Soul fragments really that good? Which levels are the best...8-10 are a pain because of the 8 SoT cost...

I auto LoL X - takes maybe just over five refills for an Eddie or around 150 Ironite.

I wouldn't be surprised if some end up with 10+ Eddies after this event

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I auto LoL X - takes maybe just over five refills for an Eddie or around 150 Ironite.

I wouldn't be surprised if some end up with 10+ Eddies after this event

Droprate went from great to suspicious though (at least on my funny luck) ... In the beginning I got either nothing (rare) or 15 fragments on LoL X. No I get a lot of 0 and several 10 fragments on LoL X. Started putting the numbers in a sheet now as I think the drops were a lot better at start. And tbh - it wouldn't surprise me - as great as this event is - if there is some monkey business involved ...

[IceManFerrar]

I auto LoL X - takes maybe just over five refills for an Eddie or around 150 Ironite.

I wouldn't be surprised if some end up with 10+ Eddies after this event

Cheers, thanks Nicko!

[MrFreeze]

Droprate went from great to suspicious though (at least on my funny luck) ... In the beginning I got either nothing (rare) or 15 fragments on LoL X. No I get a lot of 0 and several 10 fragments on LoL X. Started putting the numbers in a sheet now as I think the drops were a lot better at start. And tbh - it wouldn't surprise me - as great as this event is - if there is some monkey business involved ...


I agree. I did much better last night than I am today. I've gotten fragments in 5s from Lv X today. Still a good event though. Getting multiple 5* in a couple days is pretty great considering how long that might take otherwise. I won't be getting anywhere near as many as some of you, but I'm happy with what I've gotten so far. Thanks Sparton, Kaz and the rest of the team.

If you guys had a skill shard event, people would go nuts.

[Ringe666-7406]

I agree. I did much better last night than I am today. I've gotten fragments in 5s from Lv X today. Still a good event though. Getting multiple 5* in a couple days is pretty great considering how long that might take otherwise. I won't be getting anywhere near as many as some of you, but I'm happy with what I've gotten so far. Thanks Sparton, Kaz and the rest of the team.

If you guys had a skill shard event, people would go nuts.

Same here, never had 5* Eddies beside GRE until today. That plus Wrath = me harppy :D As for skill shards. I would take days off and grind all the time :D

[Tritium]

Sacrificed a dupe Aces High and Cyborg for an Exalted Sacrifice and got a measly 4 G/A rare souls. :|

Sparton, would it be possible to take a second look at the G/A rewards for sacrifice? They're incredibly underwhelming compared to the regular rare soul rewards where people have received 50 souls for one sacrifice. The G/A soul reward should be similar to the rare soul reward, but not equal. As it stands, G/A souls are actually the WORST reward you can receive from the higher tier sacrifices. Please look into upping the amount that are rewarded if you can. I'm pretty sure all of us veteran players would rather receive 50 rare souls than 4 G/A rare souls. :\

[Sparton_LOTB]

Sparton, would it be possible to take a second look at the G/A rewards for sacrifice? They're incredibly underwhelming compared to the regular rare soul rewards where people have received 50 souls for one sacrifice.


By a stroke of luck, one of the G/A souls got me a GCR!

Hm... "underwhelming"...

[hold]

While LoL Gunner was rather smooth I had already 3 errors today on LoL Assassin. Really frustrating.

1x MACL0
2x Game just does not continue. Chars dance in first or 2nd stage and that's it -> force quit

Sorry troopers ...

[Hypnos]

Hm... "underwhelming"...

oh man, tritium. :D You are a great trooper of mine but I gotta say, sparton took you for a spin and left you out to dry.

[Patrice-1201]

While LoL Gunner was rather smooth I had already 3 errors today on LoL Assassin. Really frustrating.

1x MACL0
2x Game just does not continue. Chars dance in first or 2nd stage and that's it -> force quit

Sorry troopers ...

Yeah I had six of those that's a mind blowing 48 ironites

[Silentknight]

oh man, tritium. :D You are a great trooper of mine but I gotta say, sparton took you for a spin and left you out to dry.

Saw that coming & those 50 rare souls, well 53 at the time turned into 2 4☆'s. MCotD & SSD, both dupes. Rest was crap! Quality not quantity!

[Nine]

Sparton, can you confirm that the hotfix messed up immunity completely in regards to the Prisoner? Please have a look at my post #341. I really hope this ability gets finally fixed :(

Also, is the timer for the red talisman power up pack that says it expires in 6h intended?

Just had case that NoL in LoL X killed its allie when he revenged on my void shields, my controls disappeared and could do nothing but stand there. Since the killed allied was also a NoL I suspect it was to counter attack next and since it couldn't do that the game broke. (Sorry, Kardas)


In regards to g/a souls from sacrifice rewards: I too find them very underwhelming. Just because of a single instance of luck it doesn't disproves that the expected reward from them it is suprisingly low considering the tier of the sacrifice. If we are going by annecdotal evidence: I got 4 g/a souls from a vortex yesterday, all 3* dupes fodder - then again the legendary soul from it was the third to give me Magus golden Son, but that at least gives more essence to to spin the wheel again.

Edit: Almost forgot - the bug where it selects the wrong stack of Souls in the book of Souls is still there. Just accidentally opened 99 instead of 2. (One 3* in a 99 stack has to be a record by the way)

[Nekroliun]

Am i the only one who still has the starter pack available for purchase? It's supposed to go away in 48 hours but its been here for the last year!

[surfingwithdje]

@ Sparton and all the LotB team:

Guys you really killed it this 2 last days!
After my little disapointement of the last update with the 20k ic eternity soul and the prisoner's passive bug, you fixed that really fast (prisoner) and you makes an event where everyone can get great rewards (and whitch rewards can be better than the most rare Eddies?)

Really really good event! Thank you very much for this!
I hope there will have other events like this one ! -- this fragments soul feature is very good (in the event and in the arena )

[IceManFerrar]

Totally agree with DJE...awesome event, though man I am burnt out trying to get fragments for just two souls. Not sure how people were able to grind LoL to get 5+ souls, wow, respect to them indeed...wonder if thy even slept these past two nights, lol!

Thanks again Spartan and the LoTB team...well done and very much appreciated! Now if you can only give me a Cyborg Eddie, I will send you a check in the mail, haha!

[Tritium]

Hm... "underwhelming"...

Haha, somehow I knew you were going to quote that post. :p I got incredibly lucky. That doesn't change the fact that the G/A rewards for sacrifice are underwhelming. We don't even end up getting 1/3 of the souls that you'd get with a rare soul reward. 4 G/A rare souls vs. 50 rare souls. I'd choose the 50 rare souls any day over 4 G/A rare souls. The odds of getting lucky greatly increase the more souls you have.

[Nekroliun]

Haha, somehow I knew you were going to quote that post. I got incredibly lucky. That doesn't change the fact that the G/A rewards for sacrifice are underwhelming. We don't even end up getting 1/3 of the souls that you'd get with a rare soul reward. 4 G/A rare souls vs. 50 rare souls. I'd choose the 50 rare souls any day over 4 G/A rare souls. The odds of getting lucky greatly increase the more souls you have.

Still, you would be missing out on the prisoner, cyborg, rainmaker and aces high that were put in those 4 specific GA souls specifically for u... well too bad!

[Tritium]

Btw Sparton, please don't ever take my criticisms or suggestions to mean that I don't love this game or appreciate your efforts and the team's efforts. You guys work hard and do your best to please the player base, and I admire that. This most recent event has been an incredibly fun and well-thought out experience! Please let whoever came up with the idea know that we've all appreciated his/her creativity here, and the team's efforts to make that idea become a reality! Keep up the awesome work! The game continues to head in the right direction. :)

[Sparton_LOTB]

Sparton, can you confirm that the hotfix messed up immunity completely in regards to the Prisoner? Please have a look at my post #341. I really hope this ability gets finally fixed :(

I can neither confirm nor deny while I'm at home (holiday today where we're at) and don't have access to my work bug tracking system :P

Some of the things sound like stuff that may or may not be already known, but I'll follow up with our QA after the next hotfix update is released. Sadly, we're already taking longer than we'd like, so we'll not be able to add fixes to it that we haven't already prioritized for it.


Also, is the timer for the red talisman power up pack that says it expires in 6h intended?

Proooooobably not, I'll pass that along.


Just had case that NoL in LoL X killed its allie when he revenged on my void shields, my controls disappeared and could do nothing but stand there. Since the killed allied was also a NoL I suspect it was to counter attack next and since it couldn't do that the game broke. (Sorry, Kardas)

I'll pass this along as well.


In regards to g/a souls from sacrifice rewards: I too find them very underwhelming. Just because of a single instance of luck it doesn't disproves that the expected reward from them it is suprisingly low considering the tier of the sacrifice. If we are going by annecdotal evidence: I got 4 g/a souls from a vortex yesterday, all 3* dupes fodder - then again the legendary soul from it was the third to give me Magus golden Son, but that at least gives more essence to to spin the wheel again.


Haha, somehow I knew you were going to quote that post. :p I got incredibly lucky. That doesn't change the fact that the G/A rewards for sacrifice are underwhelming. We don't even end up getting 1/3 of the souls that you'd get with a rare soul reward. 4 G/A rare souls vs. 50 rare souls. I'd choose the 50 rare souls any day over 4 G/A rare souls. The odds of getting lucky greatly increase the more souls you have.

A single instance of any summon session can be better or worse than average, but I'm sure if you look at your collection of characters now, you'll probably find that there's going to be more high-rarity Gunners and Assassins that you're missing compared to Warriors, Magus', or Sentinels. For newer players, any soul that can give higher rarities is great, but especially with sacrifice allowing you to "trade up" bulk amounts of 1 star and 2 star characters into Rare Souls, the rarer Gunners and Assassins are more often what people will be searching for as their collections are more and more complete.

Hell, even during this event, anyone farming for Immortal Soul Fragments has probably walked away with a ton of common Souls... which when used in bulk and the fodder sacrificed will turn into many Rare Souls. As such, it's easy to see why players of all levels are going to fill our the Warrior/Magus/Sentinel parts of their collection much quicker than Gunner/Assassin parts.

Even if you don't value Gunner/Assassin souls as much right now, at some point you'll probably find that there's far more from them that you want than from the regular souls, so we expect that yes, even one Rare Gun/Assassin Soul will mean far more than 10 Rare Souls (assuming you're trying to complete your collection of characters). No amount of Rare Souls will help you get something like a Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, or a Prisoner, or an Aces High Eddie... unless the fodder from those lets you get Rare Gun/Assassin Souls from sacrifice. The the only exceptions are event souls (which obviously are not always around) and Legendary Souls, which still are very likely to give you non-Gunner, non-Assassin characters.

tl;dr Rare Souls have a 0% chance of directly giving you a Gunner or Assassin, and as a collection of characters approaches completion, those are almost certainly most or all of what's left to find, and thus the value proposition changes over time.


Edit: Almost forgot - the bug where it selects the wrong stack of Souls in the book of Souls is still there. Just accidentally opened 99 instead of 2. (One 3* in a 99 stack has to be a record by the way)

Yeah, that is known; use all will try to pull equal to the max of a stack size or all that you have, whichever is lower.


Btw Sparton, please don't ever take my criticisms or suggestions to mean that I don't love this game or appreciate your efforts and the team's efforts. You guys work hard and do your best to please the player base, and I admire that. This most recent event has been an incredibly fun and well-thought out experience! Please let whoever came up with the idea know that we've all appreciated his/her creativity here, and the team's efforts to make that idea become a reality! Keep up the awesome work! The game continues to head in the right direction. :)

No worries! Even if I won't always agree, I still welcome (constructive) criticism and suggestions, as does the team. That goes to for all of the comments from everyone else, too, here and elsewhere on the forums, social media, etc.

And I'm definitely taking notes and passing along sentiments and suggestions from the players to the team; the event itself is a team effort in many ways, so we're happy so many people have enjoyed it.

[Silentknight]

Hey Sparton! I know u said this won't be ez to accomplish but we really need some more character slots. Especially with all these new toons. I mean hell, I'm even saving the sacrificial hearts & gold idols. In case u don't read my other post, thx to all u guys/girls at Nodding Frog for this incredible & unexpected event!!!

[Tritium]

tl;dr Rare Souls have a 0% chance of directly giving you a Gunner or Assassin, and as a collection of characters approaches completion, those are almost certainly most or all of what's left to find, and thus the value proposition changes over time.

I understand your reasoning behind it now. I guess the reason why most of us prefer the horde of rare souls is due to the essence value that 50 3*+ toons provide, which leads to more skill shards.


Also, still experiencing the 3-tap bug lol. At this point, I'm hoping I can't be the only one who has it happen. :p Had it happen in my last two battles against Kris: the first time, my GCR froze the game when casting her 3-tap power move; the second time, Kris' Viking froze the game when casting that MR up 3-tap move of his.

This bug hates me. :p

Note to anyone: If you want easy points from me, just put as many toons who use 3-tap basic attacks or power skills in your team as possible. ;)

[Sparton_LOTB]

A server push just went out. Nothing major here; it's primarily there to support the hot fix app store update which is coming.

One thing that is fixed in the Resistance/Resilience talisman set effect descriptions: these now correctly describe the set effect they provide instead of being swapped for each other.

[HomemLivre]

A server push just went out. Nothing major here; it's primarily there to support the hot fix app store update which is coming.

One thing that is fixed in the Resistance/Resilience talisman set effect descriptions: these now correctly describe the set effect they provide instead of being swapped for each other.

The Resistence Set still not displaying the correct amount of defense. Just Like Iron and Stone Sets.

[slauki]

A single instance of any summon session can be better or worse than average, but I'm sure if you look at your collection of characters now, you'll probably find that there's going to be more high-rarity Gunners and Assassins that you're missing compared to Warriors, Magus', or Sentinels. For newer players, any soul that can give higher rarities is great, but especially with sacrifice allowing you to "trade up" bulk amounts of 1 star and 2 star characters into Rare Souls, the rarer Gunners and Assassins are more often what people will be searching for as their collections are more and more complete.

Hell, even during this event, anyone farming for Immortal Soul Fragments has probably walked away with a ton of common Souls... which when used in bulk and the fodder sacrificed will turn into many Rare Souls. As such, it's easy to see why players of all levels are going to fill our the Warrior/Magus/Sentinel parts of their collection much quicker than Gunner/Assassin parts.

Even if you don't value Gunner/Assassin souls as much right now, at some point you'll probably find that there's far more from them that you want than from the regular souls, so we expect that yes, even one Rare Gun/Assassin Soul will mean far more than 10 Rare Souls (assuming you're trying to complete your collection of characters). No amount of Rare Souls will help you get something like a Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, or a Prisoner, or an Aces High Eddie... unless the fodder from those lets you get Rare Gun/Assassin Souls from sacrifice. The the only exceptions are event souls (which obviously are not always around) and Legendary Souls, which still are very likely to give you non-Gunner, non-Assassin characters.

tl;dr Rare Souls have a 0% chance of directly giving you a Gunner or Assassin, and as a collection of characters approaches completion, those are almost certainly most or all of what's left to find, and thus the value proposition changes over time.

okay makes sense, but according to your own prices you value g/a souls as three times more than single class souls (trooper store). but when we compare the droprates from sacrifice VI (2-4 g/a souls vs 50 rare souls) that means that you think that g/a souls are 12,5-25 times more valuable than normal rare souls. That's way too overpriced espacially if we take RNG into account. While i can understand, that you want to keep the players chasing some characters, getting 2 g/a souls from a very rare level 6 sacrifice is basicly a slap in the face. Approx. 10 g/a souls seem more reasonable because then they are five times more valuable then normal ones, seems more fair to me.

and btw: great event, were the best LOTB days i ever had, and the fragments are awesome too as permanent feature. Hope the "get your desired character" fragment will come too :D Finally we have some movement in this game, great work on this ones !!! Hope the next event will come soon and bring us some skillshards for the eddies.

[Silentknight]

okay makes sense, but according to your own prices you value g/a souls as three times more than single class souls (trooper store). but when we compare the droprates from sacrifice VI (2-4 g/a souls vs 50 rare souls) that means that you think that g/a souls are 12,5-25 times more valuable than normal rare souls. That's way too overpriced espacially if we take RNG into account. While i can understand, that you want to keep the players chasing some characters, getting 2 g/a souls from a very rare level 6 sacrifice is basicly a slap in the face. Approx. 10 g/a souls seem more reasonable because then they are five times more valuable then normal ones, seems more fair to me.

and btw: great event, were the best LOTB days i ever had, and the fragments are awesome too as permanent feature. Hope the "get your desired character" fragment will come too :D Finally we have some movement in this game, great work on this ones !!! Hope the next event will come soon and bring us some skillshards for the eddies.

I dunno man, anybody get the feeling this shit's predetermined??? I mean I was blown away to get those 50 souls but kinda figured I'd get garbage & I did (aside from the 9000 essence), two 4☆s. Not even sure they were from the 50 as I had 3 others. Yet look at what Trit got for 2 rare g/a's??? Almost like u get what u pay 4! Again..RNG my ass, or it's RNG & something else!

[Tritium]

Sparton, is there any word on the status of a fix for the 3-tap bug?

[slauki]

would like to bring up a point nicko stated before the event, that didn't get enough attention i feel. can someone excplain why visions was nerfed while wrath was intoduced? wrath has this insane basic move that removes 75% of all buffs (100% with accuracy --> hi ringe666 :P ) and hits like a truck as we all know. does someone else consider this to be problematic? i think this is much too badass at this state of the game.

there should be a way to counter buff removes i feel. something like a passive or a talisman that prevents from stealing/removing buff from your teammates.

OTOH i thought that defense hold might be 0% without this uber chars. but again wrath is too much even taking this argument into consideration.

[hold]

okay makes sense, but according to your own prices you value g/a souls as three times more than single class souls (trooper store). but when we compare the droprates from sacrifice VI (2-4 g/a souls vs 50 rare souls) that means that you think that g/a souls are 12,5-25 times more valuable than normal rare souls. That's way too overpriced espacially if we take RNG into account. While i can understand, that you want to keep the players chasing some characters, getting 2 g/a souls from a very rare level 6 sacrifice is basicly a slap in the face. Approx. 10 g/a souls seem more reasonable because then they are five times more valuable then normal ones, seems more fair to me.

and btw: great event, were the best LOTB days i ever had, and the fragments are awesome too as permanent feature. Hope the "get your desired character" fragment will come too :D Finally we have some movement in this game, great work on this ones !!! Hope the next event will come soon and bring us some skillshards for the eddies.

My last Class VI sacrifice gave me 3 G/A souls - all 3* dupes - that did feel a bit low. But a Vortex fill gave me 5 Legendary souls - though only 4*s out of it. At least I got some new toons ...

But my hopes are high that there will be more similar events like the 5* Ed one with the chance of completing my collection of high class toons (still missing the AoF ...)

[konstifik]

My last Class VI sacrifice gave me 3 G/A souls - all 3* dupes - that did feel a bit low. But a Vortex fill gave me 5 Legendary souls - though only 4*s out of it. At least I got some new toons ...

But my hopes are high that there will be more similar events like the 5* Ed one with the chance of completing my collection of high class toons (still missing the AoF ...)

My last vortex fill gave me a few skill shards, 6 rare G/A souls and no legendary souls. Got only 3* chars from the souls. Really hit the lower end of the reward spectrum there.

[Ringe666-7406]

would like to bring up a point nicko stated before the event, that didn't get enough attention i feel. can someone excplain why visions was nerfed while wrath was intoduced? wrath has this insane basic move that removes 75% of all buffs (100% with accuracy --> hi ringe666 :P ) and hits like a truck as we all know. does someone else consider this to be problematic? i think this is much too badass at this state of the game.

there should be a way to counter buff removes i feel. something like a passive or a talisman that prevents from stealing/removing buff from your teammates.

OTOH i thought that defense hold might be 0% without this uber chars. but again wrath is too much even taking this argument into consideration.

Hello :P From my point of view, if no Focus passive, he can only remove buffs from two enemies (equal to DD), he is squishy af compared to VE who has very high base HP and all green slots, has only two moves instead of six (maybe more of a problem was VE's overall power with cleansing, healing, blinding and removing, than with just removing), and his Fury is just lmao, 3k damage, while VE's stuning Fury costed me victory more than once. I know that it doesn't really look fair for me to defend him since I have him but just wanted to make this little comparison. I am eager as much as all of you to hear dev's word on this topic. Btw, that def is not even close to great, it's mediocre, and will be worse over time...

[Enti]

Somewhat off-topic: after the event the only 5* Eddie I'm missing (besides Eternity) is Cyborg. Looking for some opinions to see whether you guys would chase him or be patient, i.e. spend trooper points on G/A soul until he appears or just keep on buying skill shards and pray to RNGod when opening legendary/free G/A souls

[Ringe666-7406]

Somewhat off-topic: after the event the only 5* Eddie I'm missing (besides Eternity) is Cyborg. Looking for some opinions to see whether you guys would chase him or be patient, i.e. spend trooper points on G/A soul until he appears or just keep on buying skill shards and pray to RNGod when opening legendary/free G/A souls

If he will improve your tactics (I doubt it, you are already great), whether on attack or defense, chase him. If no, there is no harm in waiting and collecting skill shards for him when he comes, or for some other toon you think might help you. Simple as that :D \m/

[MoonShadow]

Somewhat off-topic: after the event the only 5* Eddie I'm missing (besides Eternity) is Cyborg. Looking for some opinions to see whether you guys would chase him or be patient, i.e. spend trooper points on G/A soul until he appears or just keep on buying skill shards and pray to RNGod when opening legendary/free G/A soulsSince the very first day, I've spent almost all my trooper points in buying G/A souls, looking for Cyborg. Not a chance, so they were all wasted, I would've better used them for skill shards. I believe that the legendary souls have a better chance to drop him.

[Hypnos]

I dunno man, anybody get the feeling this shit's predetermined??? I mean I was blown away to get those 50 souls but kinda figured I'd get garbage & I did (aside from the 9000 essence), two 4☆s. Not even sure they were from the 50 as I had 3 others. Yet look at what Trit got for 2 rare g/a's??? Almost like u get what u pay 4! Again..RNG my ass, or it's RNG & something else!

I can't say I agree with what you're saying as I received 50 rare souls Monday and received my long awaited nomad :). But for those times one doesn't get a good drop, it's not fair to assume the devs have an agenda against you. IMO, that's a bit like accusing someone of committing a crime with no evidence.

[Enti]

Thanks for your feedback Ringe and Moonshadow

[Ringe666-7406]

Thanks for your feedback Ringe and Moonshadow

NP neighbour, anytime :D

[hold]

Somewhat off-topic: after the event the only 5* Eddie I'm missing (besides Eternity) is Cyborg. Looking for some opinions to see whether you guys would chase him or be patient, i.e. spend trooper points on G/A soul until he appears or just keep on buying skill shards and pray to RNGod when opening legendary/free G/A souls

I stopped completely chasing after stuff and go for the skillshards. I have enough toons to be more or less competitive and if luck strikes I will have the skillshards to power the new toon. I am missing a few ones that I really want to have (Nomad, AoF, GCR) - but I'm still going for the skillshards.

Well at the moment I am just saving trooper points as I want to be ready in case Trooper Eddie shows up :)

[Patrice-1201]

If he will improve your tactics (I doubt it, you are already great), whether on attack or defense, chase him. If no, there is no harm in waiting and collecting skill shards for him when he comes, or for some other toon you think might help you. Simple as that :D \m/

I would go for skill shards and try him through an event, this is how I and most people got him (christmas souls, nautical souls, sacrificial souls and 5* Fragments event). Your chances from g/a souls are very slim

[Silentknight]

I can't say I agree with what you're saying as I received 50 rare souls Monday and received my long awaited nomad :). But for those times one doesn't get a good drop, it's not fair to assume the devs have an agenda against you. IMO, that's a bit like accusing someone of committing a crime with no evidence.
Yeah but how'd u 'earn' those souls. That's my point. At work so no time but it's like Nicko was talking about in a post on people getting certain toons & whatnot. Just too much coincidence in this game to be just that...coincidence. Not accusing anyone of anything. It's a game...play the game.

[Hypnos]

Yeah but how'd u 'earn' those souls. That's my point. At work so no time but it's like Nicko was talking about in a post on people getting certain toons & whatnot. Just too much coincidence in this game to be just that...coincidence. Not accusing anyone of anything. It's a game...play the game.

I earned those souls as a result of sacrificing some of the dupe characters the event dropped me. So in this case I received some bad RNG along with very good RNG.

There's nothing to suggest any tampering is at play here and if I even had the suspicion of such, I think I would quit playing right then and there.

[Mizrael]

Somewhat off-topic: after the event the only 5* Eddie I'm missing (besides Eternity) is Cyborg. Looking for some opinions to see whether you guys would chase him or be patient, i.e. spend trooper points on G/A soul until he appears or just keep on buying skill shards and pray to RNGod when opening legendary/free G/A souls

Same as MoonShadow i had a period when i only bought GA souls for badges in a chase for the prisoner. never got anything valuable out of them.

When sacrifice was introduced i ended up with 13 GA souls....got nothing but 3* dupes.

After this immortal event (which awarded me with a VE dupe and 2!!! rainmaker dupes btw) i ended up with 6 GA souls from an ultimate sacrifice...guess what i got...yeah Fall!

Don't take me as the average, because i have been known in all the games i've played in my career to be MrBadLuck, but i wouldn't waste trooper badges on them.

I was even stupid enough once to but that great deal of 1 GA soul for 30€...resulted in a 3* slap in the face.

I don't get spartons defensive of these souls. IMO they should be the same value as rare, for from my experience they only give crap...why not?!
But the philosophy of NF seems to be so twisted at times...it seems like things like skill shards and GA souls should be "near impossible" to get in their opinion. i just don't get it...WHY? why not just let players have fun and feel rewarded for their effort?!

[Tritium]

I don't get spartons defensive of these souls. IMO they should be the same value as rare, for from my experience they only give crap...why not?!
But the philosophy of NF seems to be so twisted at times...it seems like things like skill shards and GA souls should be "near impossible" to get in their opinion. i just don't get it...WHY? why not just let players have fun and feel rewarded for their effort?!

The way I see it, the G/A souls should at least be worth 1/3 of what regular souls are worth. For instance, through trooper points, G/A souls cost 3x the amount of magus, sentinel, and warrior souls. Using that as an example, why shouldn't G/A souls be rewarded at 1/3 the amount of what you'd get for a rare soul reward? With this conversion in mind, a tier VI sacrifice, which can normally reward 50 rare souls, would then have a chance of rewarding 17 (rounded up) G/A souls. Not a measly 4 G/A souls. This also gets into the issue where G/A souls are without a doubt the worst reward to get for a vortex fill. They almost shouldn't even be a reward there IMO. I'd much rather get only legendary souls or skill shards without any chance of a meager amount of G/A souls, considering how long it takes to fill the vortex meter.

[Sparton_LOTB]

The Resistence Set still not displaying the correct amount of defense. Just Like Iron and Stone Sets.

Yeah, that is known. It seems like it's a general issue for all set effects which add to defense.

You can be assured that the defense the set effect should provide is accounted for in combat, though, even though the My Team screen isn't reporting it correctly.


okay makes sense, but according to your own prices you value g/a souls as three times more than single class souls (trooper store). but when we compare the droprates from sacrifice VI (2-4 g/a souls vs 50 rare souls) that means that you think that g/a souls are 12,5-25 times more valuable than normal rare souls. That's way too overpriced espacially if we take RNG into account. While i can understand, that you want to keep the players chasing some characters, getting 2 g/a souls from a very rare level 6 sacrifice is basicly a slap in the face. Approx. 10 g/a souls seem more reasonable because then they are five times more valuable then normal ones, seems more fair to me.

Weeeeell... the only reason we were willing to put Rare Souls into that reward tier is if we gave a quantity that's well above what the natural progression of a Rare Soul reward would be. If we wanted the Rare Soul quantities to be more of what the natural progression should be relative to the last tier (where you can get 10-15 Rare Souls in Tier V, and are about twice as likely to get Rare Souls in Tier V compared to Tier VI), it'd be closer to 30-35 souls, but we wanted to bump it up because we figured people would consider 35 Rare Souls for that sacrifice to be the dud draw (ironically).

That said, I can see where you and others are coming from in terms of the Rare Gun/Assassin Souls are probably being valued a bit too much relative to Rare Souls, so I'll discuss more with Kaz and have a look at it for a future update. I don't think I'd want to go as far as removing them from higher tiers (as per Tritium's suggestion), but Tritium's idea of them being closer to 1/3 the value is probably better, so I'd look at bumping quantities in the higher tiers accordingly.


and btw: great event, were the best LOTB days i ever had, and the fragments are awesome too as permanent feature. Hope the "get your desired character" fragment will come too :D Finally we have some movement in this game, great work on this ones !!! Hope the next event will come soon and bring us some skillshards for the eddies.

We're cookin' something up right now, so maybe soon that'll be the case...


Sparton, is there any word on the status of a fix for the 3-tap bug?

We're still investigating what is a probably cause at this point, but again, I'd recommend contacting Support about the issue. They may have other solutions to help get you out of the bad state you're in, or that can better help us troublehsoot what the underlying issue is (I asked our CS team if they got something from Tritium-3455, and they said not recently).


would like to bring up a point nicko stated before the event, that didn't get enough attention i feel. can someone excplain why visions was nerfed while wrath was intoduced? wrath has this insane basic move that removes 75% of all buffs (100% with accuracy --> hi ringe666 :P ) and hits like a truck as we all know. does someone else consider this to be problematic? i think this is much too badass at this state of the game.

there should be a way to counter buff removes i feel. something like a passive or a talisman that prevents from stealing/removing buff from your teammates.

[Subject also posted by many others, just quoting a recent one.]

I've discussed this a bit more with Kaz, especially in light of the various concerns and examples brought up regarding Wrath and Visions Eddie (and to a lesser extent, other stat removers).

The official stance Kaz wants me to communicate is that Wrath is not intended to have such a high chance of removal; it was an oversight from taking a character that was previously only a PVE boss to become a collectable character. His beneficial effect removal chance should not be scaling and will be rectified in a future update.

The intention is that beneficial effect removals should not be too reliable, unless the unit is primarily utility or support based (Sentinel Undead Rescuer, the Clairvoyant, Visions Eddie, etc). All other units with a high chance will see adjustments to their removal chance in an upcoming update to make them a bit more balanced.

Regarding countering buff removal, that is something we want to be very careful of, because otherwise it risks completely invalidating entire strategies in a way that then cannot be counter-played (whereas more moderate "remove all buffs" chances and higher "remove single buff" chances means that protecting your entire team with many buffs is at least something of an answer). It is something we want to add into the game at some point, but not in a widely available manner (like the many options to get Immunity onto your team).

[HomemLivre]

Yeah, that is known. It seems like it's a general issue for all set effects which add to defense.

You can be assured that the defense the set effect should provide is accounted for in combat, though, even though the My Team screen isn't reporting it correctly.

Good to know, tks for your answer.
I pm you a little time ago about some concerns, wait for your asnwer.

Tks again for beign communicative with us here :)

[Tritium]

That said, I can see where you and others are coming from in terms of the Rare Gun/Assassin Souls are probably being valued a bit too much relative to Rare Souls, so I'll discuss more with Kaz and have a look at it for a future update. I don't think I'd want to go as far as removing them from higher tiers (as per Tritium's suggestion), but Tritium's idea of them being closer to 1/3 the value is probably better, so I'd look at bumping quantities in the higher tiers accordingly.



We're still investigating what is a probably cause at this point, but again, I'd recommend contacting Support about the issue. They may have other solutions to help get you out of the bad state you're in, or that can better help us troublehsoot what the underlying issue is (I asked our CS team if they got something from Tritium-3455, and they said not recently).

Sparton, yet again, you prove why we love interacting with you. Thanks for the in-depth response, man! I'm glad that you and Kaz are willing to look into our concerns with the G/A rewards. The only reason I thought they should be removed from the vortex reward was because of their current meager payout. If the number of G/A souls rewarded for a vortex fill were increased, I wouldn't mind receiving them at all (hell, a crazy but fun idea would be receiving a stack of 50 of them, like what you'd get for rare souls in Tier VI+ since vortex fills take so long to achieve. That may be too much though :p).

Also, thanks for the update on the 3-tap bug. I'll message the support team in a moment!

Edit: Message to support sent!

[Enti]

I earned those souls as a result of sacrificing some of the dupe characters the event dropped me. So in this case I received some bad RNG along with very good RNG.

There's nothing to suggest any tampering is at play here and if I even had the suspicion of such, I think I would quit playing right then and there.

Well, dunno bout this... there is most probably no intentional manipulation of such, but I've dumped countless souls to the book and still haven't received CRE / CG / War CotD from the initial characters (speaking of rare souls only) - whereas I had at least 2 dupes of everything else - which leaves me in doubt sometimes, but it can simply happen that I'm that unlucky :D

Sparton, thank you for looking into the matter of Tier VI sacrifice G/A reward, also thanks for the mysterious note of something good approaching us :D

EDIT: can LotB team consider this option? Favorites selection (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?4570-Character-shortlist)

[Browno]

Thanks sparton and lotb team for interacting and listenibg to your players :)

[Hypnos]

We're cookin' something up right now, so maybe soon that'll be the case...

if it's anything as fun and rewarding as last week's event, then we've got something great to look forward to!

[Sparton_LOTB]

Heads up to all the chaps still following this jolly thread; a second hot fix update has been released, and is propagating to your platforms of choice.

I've updated the original patch notes with a new EDIT: Hot Fixes section (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5698) at the bottom. This summarizes the fixes that have been released within the last week, including a bunch of things that were fixed with this most recent release.

[Ringe666-7406]

Heads up to all the chaps still following this jolly thread; a second hot fix update has been released, and is propagating to your platforms of choice.

I've updated the original patch notes with a new EDIT: Hot Fixes section (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5698) at the bottom. This summarizes the fixes that have been released within the last week, including a bunch of things that were fixed with this most recent release.

Communication and game itself with all events and everything are on highest level ever, thank you (and all of you) so much.

While we are at fixes, will there any time soon be fixed issue where NoL's passive won't start triggering after killing Prisoner? Thanks in advance \m/

[Sparton_LOTB]

EDIT: can LotB team consider this option? Favorites selection (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?4570-Character-shortlist)

It's something on my mind as an addition I'd also like to add, but it fights in priority against things like using multiple troopers in a battle or helping new players with more targetted objectives to help learn the ropes of the game, so it's not something I think we'll be adding any time soon. Thanks for the reminder about it, though.


While we are at fixes, will there any time soon be fixed issue where NoL's passive won't start triggering after killing Prisoner? Thanks in advance \m/

It's a known issue where some of the passives in the game stay non-functional in certain scenarios even when the Passive Disabled debuff expires/is cleansed. We don't have a fix committed for that yet, so I'm not sure if that'll be in the next update, but if it's not in the next one, then hopefully the following one.

[Ringe666-7406]

It's a known issue where some of the passives in the game stay non-functional in certain scenarios even when the Passive Disabled debuff expires/is cleansed. We don't have a fix committed for that yet, so I'm not sure if that'll be in the next update, but if it's not in the next one, then hopefully the following one.

Thanks for your time, much appreciated. \m/

[IceManFerrar]

Heads up to all the chaps still following this jolly thread; a second hot fix update has been released, and is propagating to your platforms of choice.

I've updated the original patch notes with a new EDIT: Hot Fixes section (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5698) at the bottom. This summarizes the fixes that have been released within the last week, including a bunch of things that were fixed with this most recent release.

Thanks Spartan for the update. I installed the latest update but I still see that I have Achieved only 11/120 Achievements, which I know is incorrect. Not sure if that was supposed to have been fixed in this release.

[DaveMurray]

Heads up to all the chaps still following this jolly thread; a second hot fix update has been released, and is propagating to your platforms of choice.

I've updated the original patch notes with a new EDIT: Hot Fixes section (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?5698) at the bottom. This summarizes the fixes that have been released within the last week, including a bunch of things that were fixed with this most recent release.

Thanks for the constant communication Sparton.
I played many games in my life and you sure beat everyone on that section.

I reported that through the ingame support but i would like to add it here too.
Before the second hotfix, that required to download new content, my achievements were 21/120. After the update i could claim it and i did because i thought you fixed it but now i got 21/40 so the one i claimed was the 21/20 and i didn't notice. Now it shows that i have 4 unclaimed achievements but nothing there to claim.

[zdm-1083]

One bad side effect on my side with this new update is the fact that Legacy application is restarting if I switch to any other application (phone, SMS, mail, ...)
That's quite annoying because previously it was OK even with an ongoing level.
Also it means that I lost as my trooper some badges...

May the memory footprint has been increased and my Nexus 5 could not provide enough?

How I should report this? by mail?

That's also raises the question:
We all see from time to time issue that are hard to track, may it could be good to put in place some bug/feedback website/application?
I would think that free solution exist and could help to find root cause with crossed information :)

[Nine]

Sparton, do you have any news in respect to the Immunity bug?

While it is nice, that the Prisoner is somehow being looked at, every "fix" makes things far worse. Now he blocks Talisman buffs as well. Since he already blocks the above mentioned Repeal passive - even if it is protected by Immunity Talismans - there is absolutely no way to counter a taunt festival and it is worse than half a year ago.

I think the Prisoner is also blocking active effects form Talismans (e.g. Void Shields and Energy procs, but that is hard to verify...especially when taunted all the time :p )

[JJJ428]

Two things, did something happen with the new ascension talismans. I could have sworn I had 6 of them and put them all on my new Viking eddy just for testing and I went to look and they are all gone and no longer in my inventory. So not sure if something happened to cause them to poof.

Second thing I know the thing around here is to complain about RNGesus, I am really thinking the cache's are better then the hoards. The cache i got two talismans, soul pieces, AND a skill shard. The hoard I got a void talisman for the 2nd time. I think something should be fixed with this we shouldn't be getting talismans in the skull quest we can get else where correct?

[Sparton_LOTB]

I installed the latest update but I still see that I have Achieved only 11/120 Achievements, which I know is incorrect. Not sure if that was supposed to have been fixed in this release.


I reported that through the ingame support but i would like to add it here too.
Before the second hotfix, that required to download new content, my achievements were 21/120. After the update i could claim it and i did because i thought you fixed it but now i got 21/40 so the one i claimed was the 21/20 and i didn't notice. Now it shows that i have 4 unclaimed achievements but nothing there to claim.

Yeah, the issue we fixed is some achievements counting too much progress when they shouldn't (such as getting 10 Fragments but it giving +20 to your "collect fragments" achievement progress). The issue where the "complete achievements" one is not counting all of the achievements you've done is still not working correctly, but should be fixed and retroactively counting those correctly for the next major update (no ETA for that yet).


One bad side effect on my side with this new update is the fact that Legacy application is restarting if I switch to any other application (phone, SMS, mail, ...)
That's quite annoying because previously it was OK even with an ongoing level.
Also it means that I lost as my trooper some badges...

May the memory footprint has been increased and my Nexus 5 could not provide enough?

That's definitely not an intended side effect of the update. Unless there is something else that is also hogging your memory (or an OS update is demanding more resources), we don't expect backgrounding the app to be so fickle with killing the process. I've let our QA team know, and they'll investigate further.


That's also raises the question:
We all see from time to time issue that are hard to track, may it could be good to put in place some bug/feedback website/application?
I would think that free solution exist and could help to find root cause with crossed information :)

It's surprisingly time consuming just to compile the patch notes; keeping track of another bug database would be even worse, sadly. While far from ideal, reporting bugs here/in the Bug Reports (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/forumdisplay.php?35) subforum/via in-game Support, then keeping an eye on the update patch notes as they arrive is probably the best we can do for the time being.


Sparton, do you have any news in respect to the Immunity bug?

While it is nice, that the Prisoner is somehow being looked at, every "fix" makes things far worse. Now he blocks Talisman buffs as well. Since he already blocks the above mentioned Repeal passive - even if it is protected by Immunity Talismans - there is absolutely no way to counter a taunt festival and it is worse than half a year ago.

Hm... works if you go first, not if you go second. I'll pass that along to the team to investigate.


I think the Prisoner is also blocking active effects form Talismans (e.g. Void Shields and Energy procs, but that is hard to verify...especially when taunted all the time :p )

This was recently fixed (just tested it with my Sentinel Soulless Demon; triggered Vanish just fine, despite having Passive Disable).


Two things, did something happen with the new ascension talismans. I could have sworn I had 6 of them and put them all on my new Viking eddy just for testing and I went to look and they are all gone and no longer in my inventory. So not sure if something happened to cause them to poof.

Not sure if I've heard of anything like that, sadly. Did they end up on a different character, or back into your talisman inventory, perhaps?


Second thing I know the thing around here is to complain about RNGesus, I am really thinking the cache's are better then the hoards. The cache i got two talismans, soul pieces, AND a skill shard. The hoard I got a void talisman for the 2nd time. I think something should be fixed with this we shouldn't be getting talismans in the skull quest we can get else where correct?

We are planning on pulling the Void Talismans out of the Horde for the reason you stated, yes.

Other than that, the pools of talismans are different between the Cache and Horde, and the Horde has better odds/quantities for things like Ironite and Precious Soul Fragments.

[BonFire]

Hey, Sparton, I'm not sure if this is a glitch or not, and I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I was in the arena up against a team that had the Assassin Golden Son. He activated Endure, and then either his Eddie or his Nomad attacked my team that had void shields and suddenly the only one on his team that had Endure still was his Nomad.

Or, I've had some times in arena where after my void shields have been used, my Magus Harpy still has hers for my turn.

[Enti]

Hey, Sparton, I'm not sure if this is a glitch or not, and I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I was in the arena up against a team that had the Assassin Golden Son. He activated Endure, and then either his Eddie or his Nomad attacked my team that had void shields and suddenly the only one on his team that had Endure still was his Nomad.

Or, I've had some times in arena where after my void shields have been used, my Magus Harpy still has hers for my turn.

Void shields absorb and reflect magic/physical damage, plus each reflect has a chance of removing all beneficial effects. Is this what you are looking for, or did you see something different?

[JJJ428]

Checked all my characters and didn't see them anywhere, and they are not in my inventory. I had 6 of them and now zero. Not the biggest of deals to me just wanted to see if anyone had similar issues.

[BonFire]

Void shields absorb and reflect magic/physical damage, plus each reflect has a chance of removing all beneficial effects. Is this what you are looking for, or did you see something different?

Oh okay, cool. I didn't know that. Thought it was a weaker version of proper reflect, because magic damage still hits like a truck and rarely reflects.

[Jofer16]

Checked all my characters and didn't see them anywhere, and they are not in my inventory. I had 6 of them and now zero. Not the biggest of deals to me just wanted to see if anyone had similar issues.

I had something similar a few days ago, had 3 maxed out lvl 50 void shields on a toon and they all magically dropped down to the exact same lvl 44. Thought I was going crazy. Had a few I thought I had disappear as well, again, chaulked it up to crazy lol There may be something to this.

[Crazypants]

I had something similar a few days ago, had 3 maxed out lvl 50 void shields on a toon and they all magically dropped down to the exact same lvl 44. Thought I was going crazy. Had a few I thought I had disappear as well, again, chaulked it up to crazy lol There may be something to this.

lve had talismans devolve themselves as well. Haven't noticed any disappear though. Hope that doesn't happen. If it does I'm changing my name to Sadpants.

[Liebhild]

Not sure if someone posted this already: That little break, that shows, that all enemies die next round, in PVE is back.

[Enti]

Sparton, I bumped into the log out - log in issue again.
If I log out of account (facebook) and log in with another one (e-mail), then back to original (facebook), I get the spinning wheel of death and I need to delete/reinstall the game.

Is there a way I could connect the same e-mail (on original account) used for facebook, so that I might try switching accounts only based on e-mail logins? It should already be registered on NF website I think.

[zdm-1083]

That's definitely not an intended side effect of the update. Unless there is something else that is also hogging your memory (or an OS update is demanding more resources), we don't expect backgrounding the app to be so fickle with killing the process. I've let our QA team know, and they'll investigate further.

Hmm the only app I maintain up-to-date and I run is this game. :]
Thanks for sharing info to QA, I will try some stuff on my side (device reboot, cleaning of app cache)


It's surprisingly time consuming just to compile the patch notes; keeping track of another bug database would be even worse, sadly. While far from ideal, reporting bugs here/in the Bug Reports (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/forumdisplay.php?35) subforum/via in-game Support, then keeping an eye on the update patch notes as they arrive is probably the best we can do for the time being.

You could retrieve information during week-end, off day, etc...
As you already post here when you are ill :')
Joking aside, I fully understand, more information to compile is sometime a mess.

Thanks for your reply!

[Sparton_LOTB]

Not sure if someone posted this already: That little break, that shows, that all enemies die next round, in PVE is back.

Not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain?


Sparton, I bumped into the log out - log in issue again.
If I log out of account (facebook) and log in with another one (e-mail), then back to original (facebook), I get the spinning wheel of death and I need to delete/reinstall the game.

Is there a way I could connect the same e-mail (on original account) used for facebook, so that I might try switching accounts only based on e-mail logins? It should already be registered on NF website I think.

There is definitely some issues relating to logging out and logging in with accounts with different levels of progression (regardless of if they're Facebook or e-mail, as far as I know). I don't have a timeline for fixes, but it's on our radar for improving.

[HomemLivre]

Hell yeah!!!! Sparton 500 back to make us happy!

[Browno]

I believe he is referring to the pause in animations that occur when dealing the killing blow in pve.

[Tritium]

I believe he is referring to the pause in animations that occur when dealing the killing blow in pve.

Oh no, the "chest lag"? Is it back? I've not experienced it yet, but I have had a few longer loading times after the battle ends and loads to the main screen.

[Browno]

Oh no, the "chest lag"? Is it back? I've not experienced it yet, but I have had a few longer loading times after the battle ends and loads to the main screen.
Yeah. I have experienced it, but it is way less noticable this time

[Jofer16]

I believe he is referring to the pause in animations that occur when dealing the killing blow in pve.

Yep definetly back after the update, that's how I know I won, game freezes for a few seconds on killing blow animations.

[Enti]

There is definitely some issues relating to logging out and logging in with accounts with different levels of progression (regardless of if they're Facebook or e-mail, as far as I know). I don't have a timeline for fixes, but it's on our radar for improving.

Thank you for the explanation Sparton, much appreciated

[BadTaste]

My Galaxy S6 recently upgraded the SW to Android 7.0 and after that the LOTB force quit alot. It dosent matter where in the game I am, whether playing PVP, PVE or just browsing menus, the game can suddenly freeze and force quit. Several PVP matches lost, badges lost (sorry troopers)... I can't see any other activity on my mobile when the game quits.
I have tried everything, even factory reset my mobile and only installed LOTB with no luck. I see others in here have reported same or similar issues.
Also, with the game force quitting or having server problems when playing PVP should be reason enough to make holds non revegeable. It is not fair to loose point due to bugs and then the hold is beeing revenged and you might loose even more points.

[Nine]

Strike Talismans are already gone from the store for me...

...and Skill Shard and Eternity fragments are locked. Haven't purchased anything this week yet.

[zdm-1083]

Hmm the only app I maintain up-to-date and I run is this game. :]
Thanks for sharing info to QA, I will try some stuff on my side (device reboot, cleaning of app cache)

Good, it seems to be gone after mobile device reboot.

[Liebhild]

I believe he is referring to the pause in animations that occur when dealing the killing blow in pve.

Yup, that is, what I meant :-)

[Crazypants]

Strike Talismans are already gone from the store for me...

...and Skill Shard and Eternity fragments are locked. Haven't purchased anything this week yet.

This happened to me as well. Went to go buy an Eternity frag and it was locked. I know for a fact I haven't bought one this week.

[Jofer16]

This happened to me as well. Went to go buy an Eternity frag and it was locked. I know for a fact I haven't bought one this week.

Happens to me every week. Sometimes stuff unlocks right away, sometimes it takes days, or anywhere in between. Would be nice to get some sort of explanation, seems weird like someone is manually pushing client updates out. Otherwise it should all be simultaneously instantaneous.

[Silentknight]

Happens to me every week. Sometimes stuff unlocks right away, sometimes it takes days, or anywhere in between. Would be nice to get some sort of explanation, seems weird like someone is manually pushing client updates out. Otherwise it should all be simultaneously instantaneous.

Nah,this is different. Talismans are gone!!!

[Jofer16]

Nah,this is different. Talismans are gone!!!

Oh my bad, yeah gone for me too it looks like. Figured it was that time and they were pulled for good ala Immunity/Shield.

[Silentknight]

Oh my bad, yeah gone for me too it looks like. Figured it was that time and they were pulled for good ala Immunity/Shield.

Shouldn't u be busy dominating Transformers??? Got a 2☆ Ratchet & Ironhide! Actually have a 1 & 2☆ Ironhide...won't let me forge em yet tho

[Nekroliun]

Am i the only one without a shell/immunity/life/strike talisman? Like im a lrimitive fuck, all these fancy effect talismans... fuck dat shit! I only work with Holy Power/Arcane, Health Overwhelming/Ward, And the almighty Strength Fierce!

[Nekroliun]

Shouldn't u be busy dominating Transformers??? Got a 2☆ Ratchet & Ironhide! Actually have a 1 & 2☆ Ironhide...won't let me forge em yet tho

Idk what forging really is but i got a 2* optimus prime!

Piece of shit jofer has a 3* WindBlade! Like srsly what is this luck! The alliance is "Legacy Of The Beast", original ik, i came up with it, search for "jofer16" or "PraiseNekro" in the friends search and join the shit!

[Jofer16]

Shouldn't u be busy dominating Transformers??? Got a 2☆ Ratchet & Ironhide! Actually have a 1 & 2☆ Ironhide...won't let me forge em yet tho

Nice, Ironhides pretty sick with that long range heavy missile attack, just stand back and blast away. Have a 3* windblade which is my highest. She looks like a ninja with fast attacks, pretty cool.

Also just noticed Nekro joined my alliance I created last night, and some other random "bro787" is that you? haha

[Nekroliun]

Nice, Ironhides pretty sick with that long range heavy missile attack, just stand back and blast away. Have a 3* windblade which is my highest. She looks like a ninja with fast attacks, pretty cool.

Also just noticed Nekro joined my alliance I created last night, and some other random "bro787" is that you? haha

Bro787 lol! Idk if das you but you should name yourself "NoisyNight"

Also silent knight, is your name by any means a reference to hearthstone's Silent knight? If so, them *SHUSH*, if not, rip

[Jofer16]

Bro787 lol! Idk if das you but you should name yourself "NoisyNight"

Also silent knight, is your name by any means a reference to hearthstone's Silent knight? If so, them *SHUSH*, if not, rip

Promoted to officer! Be careful not to let the overwhelming power corrupt you haha

[Nekroliun]

Promoted to officer! Be careful not to let the overwhelming power corrupt you haha

Oh my! The power! I can do anythiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ing!

But not rllly

Weird it puts spaces between the Is that i wrote

[Silentknight]

Bro787 lol! Idk if das you but you should name yourself "NoisyNight"

Also silent knight, is your name by any means a reference to hearthstone's Silent knight? If so, them *SHUSH*, if not, rip
Lmao, nope. Silentknightcaca is my original email address from the 90's. Cuz I'm shy...awwwww!

[Silentknight]

Oh my! The power! I can do anythiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ing!

But not rllly

Weird it puts spaces

K,I'm in. Got some catching up to do too

[Jofer16]

Bro787 lol! Idk if das you but you should name yourself "NoisyNight"

Also silent knight, is your name by any means a reference to hearthstone's Silent knight? If so, them *SHUSH*, if not, rip

I bet bro787 is Sparton hahaha

[Silentknight]

I bet bro787 is Sparton hahaha

He has Bludgeon!

[Nekroliun]

He has Bludgeon!

Yea! Whoever that is!

[Ezz]

Question on GCR- had her forever but never used her. Did some experimenting with her today.
So her revive skill grants all allies endure and if you use it while all allies are alive all characters do in fact get endure, including eddies. If you use the revive skill with a dead Allie they are revived and they get endure.
But if you revive an Eddie he does not get endure? Is this intended? I tested several times with many eddies and he never got endure.