May 16th 2017 Update Discussion

[Tritium]

Question on GCR- had her forever but never used her. Did some experimenting with her today.
So her revive skill grants all allies endure and if you use it while all allies are alive all characters do in fact get endure, including eddies. If you use the revive skill with a dead Allie they are revived and they get endure.
But if you revive an Eddie he does not get endure? Is this intended? I tested several times with many eddies and he never got endure.

I believe that's a bug. I remember people discussing it before.

[HomemLivre]

Question on GCR- had her forever but never used her. Did some experimenting with her today.
So her revive skill grants all allies endure and if you use it while all allies are alive all characters do in fact get endure, including eddies. If you use the revive skill with a dead Allie they are revived and they get endure.
But if you revive an Eddie he does not get endure? Is this intended? I tested several times with many eddies and he never got endure.

Her Endure works fine even with Eddies, the bug is just visual. In the next turn after the skill is used the 1 turn endure will show up.

[BadTaste]

Her Endure works fine even with Eddies, the bug is just visual. Not true. Eddies can be killed in the first round after beeing revieved by GCR.



In the next turn after the skill is used the 1 turn endure will show up. True. EDIT: After some more testing Eddies can also be killed in the second round after beeing revieved. Only on other toons than Eddies will endure show up in the second round.

[Nine]

Fragments are still locked (Skill Shard as well) and Strike Talismans are nowhere to be seen.

Strike Talismans are particulary frustrating given that this is last chance, but since the only factor with the fragments is time, this is really inconvenient.

Tried several restarts as well as three different devices...

[Ezz]

Not true. Eddies can be killed in the first round after beeing revieved by GCR.


True. EDIT: After some more testing Eddies can also be killed in the second round after beeing revieved. Only on other toons than Eddies will endure show up in the second round.

Yes I have seen the issue with the hidden endure icon but this is different. Revived eddies never get endure. I am guessing this has something to do with the fact that before pvp an Eddie could never be revived. So maybe eddies were never coded to receive that buff

[Sparton_LOTB]

Strike Talismans are already gone from the store for me...

Looks like an update to the store scheduling got mis-timed. The talismans are back in the store for the remainder of the time until PVP reset (4.5 hours as of this writing).

Sorry 'bout that.

[Nine]

Looks like an update to the store scheduling got mis-timed. The talismans are back in the store for the remainder of the time until PVP reset (4.5 hours as of this writing).

Sorry 'bout that.

Hey Sparton, thanks for looking into this! Fortunately I still have time to purchase for them.

Strike (Fierce) is still locked, though. Interestingly that was the case last week as well, up until about ca. 2 hours before the reset. Hope that will be the case again.

(Fragments and the Skill Shard are unlocked now)

[BonFire]

This is an interesting one, I assumed when 2 Prisoner's were on the field, nobody got their passives blocked because none of the X's appeared above characters heads. But my Harpy just got stunned by Angel of Fear. So, either it's still working on a coinflip for both teams and it's just not notifying us anymore, or 2 Prisoner's block everything on both sides from activating.

[Askora]

This is an interesting one, I assumed when 2 Prisoner's were on the field, nobody got their passives blocked because none of the X's appeared above characters heads. But my Harpy just got stunned by Angel of Fear. So, either it's still working on a coinflip for both teams and it's just not notifying us anymore, or 2 Prisoner's block everything on both sides from activating.

I have a prisoner and I have no clue how it's working right now. Sometimes red x's, sometimes not, sometimes only on one team. I've stunned a sentinel harpy even when she didn't have a red x (or a prisoner on her team). That part is probably still bugged.

I know sentinel harpy is. She holds on to beneficial effects for an extra turn sometimes. I use her and my AGS for farming LOL and she'll usually keep the void shield after everyone else has dropped theirs. Also, in pvp my prisoner stunned one (with the red x) on defense, he also gave her back the silence icon. She promptly used her power ability to cleanse herself and then attack back. Sadly, the one I have on defense doesn't seem to know that trick.

[BonFire]

I have a prisoner and I have no clue how it's working right now. Sometimes red x's, sometimes not, sometimes only on one team. I've stunned a sentinel harpy even when she didn't have a red x (or a prisoner on her team). That part is probably still bugged.

I know sentinel harpy is. She holds on to beneficial effects for an extra turn sometimes. I use her and my AGS for farming LOL and she'll usually keep the void shield after everyone else has dropped theirs. Also, in pvp my prisoner stunned one (with the red x) on defense, he also gave her back the silence icon. She promptly used her power ability to cleanse herself and then attack back. Sadly, the one I have on defense doesn't seem to know that trick.

My masked harpy holds beneficial effects for an extra turn too.

[Askora]

My masked harpy holds beneficial effects for an extra turn too.

Probably a bug in the passive. I guess we enjoy it until it gets fixed. Hopefully nothing else gets broken when that happens. Still waiting for my death dog to keep his damage charge when he uses it. At least it still works on the rest of the team. It'd be nice to see his true damage potential though. He already hits gcr hard.

[BonFire]

Probably a bug in the passive. I guess we enjoy it until it gets fixed. Hopefully nothing else gets broken when that happens. Still waiting for my death dog to keep his damage charge when he uses it. At least it still works on the rest of the team. It'd be nice to see his true damage potential though. He already hits gcr hard.

I just found out how hard Rainmaker hits in PVP. Almost all of the GCR's I run fall. I wonder what it'd be like with a damage charge though too. He can never survive to that point.

[BonFire]

On the Evo Material Horde for Battlefield, Angel of Fear's extra turns are kicking off even if you don't kill the person you're aiming for. Like their health is just that millimetre away from death.

[mjmxiii]

I just found out how hard Rainmaker hits in PVP. Almost all of the GCR's I run fall. I wonder what it'd be like with a damage charge though too. He can never survive to that point.

If you have them, try a combo of Resistance and Resilience talismans on your RM. Maxed set of Resistance ups DEF and MR stat to around 780. Don't have resilience (would kill for a barrier set) but that would up his HP based off ATK and MAG while giving him even numbers of ATK and MAG. Mix that with some health talismans (2 x mystical or 1 each of overwhelm and ward would be ideal) and he might live a bit longer and still hit hard.

[BonFire]

If you have them, try a combo of Resistance and Resilience talismans on your RM. Maxed set of Resistance ups DEF and MR stat to around 780. Don't have resilience (would kill for a barrier set) but that would up his HP based off ATK and MAG while giving him even numbers of ATK and MAG. Mix that with some health talismans (2 x mystical or 1 each of overwhelm and ward would be ideal) and he might live a bit longer and still hit hard.

Oh man, I think I actually have those and they're maxed out. Or at least a set of Resilience. I just have the usual talismans that increase attack and magic, and then I threw on a vampire set for the hell of it.

Wait... I have 3 Resistance Shied, back when they increased attack and required 3, and 2 shield Resilience. Hm, Guess I'll try that out, can't hurt right?

[Sparton_LOTB]

There’s a server + app store release that’s happening soon, which doesn’t have too much into it, but nonetheless I’ve added this as further hotfixes for the current patch notes thread:



Hot Fixes

[...]


June 9th Update: Improvements for PVP handling to reduce frequency of AMPA errors
June 9th Update: Removed Void Talismans as a possible reward from the Talisman Horde Skull Quest (can still be obtained from Underworld)
Upcoming App Store Release: Improved handling of negative status effects which should not be cleansable to be correctly handled in more situations (Doom, Seal, Perfect Corruption)



Additionally, while this hasn’t solved all of our error restarting woes, the app store update (once it’s available and players are playing on it) will have improved error reporting. This won’t immediately help you guys, but this is going to give the team more information for what errors you guys are hitting, and where in the code the errors are happening, so future updates can have more targeted and thorough fixes. This app store update is still being worked on, and should be released at some point within the next week.

[DIEDD]

Hi Sparton.
There is an bug with the invisibility buff, when activated (by talisman or skill) does not last the designated turns and disappears instantly when attacking. It happens when I play with beelzebub and with gunner corrupt rescuer or with any other character already in pvp or pve.

[Browno]

Any attack make it disappear, it is no bug.

[Sparton_LOTB]

Hi Sparton.
There is an bug with the invisibility buff, when activated (by talisman or skill) does not last the designated turns and disappears instantly when attacking. It happens when I play with beelzebub and with gunner corrupt rescuer or with any other character already in pvp or pve.

That's how the Vanish status effect is supposed to work. From status effect description in the combat info popup:


Cannot take damage or gain negative status effects. Vanish disappears when using an attack.

[BG840]

Hey Sparton I noticed the rankings for PvP have been real up and down lately. Any clue to what's causing this? If so what kinda time frame for a fix? Thanks

[DIEDD]

That's how the Vanish status effect is supposed to work. From status effect description in the combat info popup:

Ah ... my fault, then that includes invisibility talismans.
Thanks Sparton.

[JJJ428]

Not sure if it was ever covered or mention but any intention of returning gold and ironite rewards in the arena when you win a battle?

[Sparton_LOTB]

Hey Sparton I noticed the rankings for PvP have been real up and down lately. Any clue to what's causing this? If so what kinda time frame for a fix? Thanks

We're aware that the rank can sometimes be mis-reported before the end of the event. We don't have a timeline for fixing that, though.


Not sure if it was ever covered or mention but any intention of returning gold and ironite rewards in the arena when you win a battle?

We're still working on isolating the cause for that, but we should have something bottled up for the next major update.

[Liebhild]

NoLs sometimes counter the counter :-)

[MrFreeze]

Something's not right with the Blood Brothers level in underworld madness, maybe the other difficulties too, I didn't try them. If you kill Beezlebub first, Wrath just dies like a minion or something. I haven't played that one in a while, but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be like that.

[Askora]

Something's not right with the Blood Brothers level in underworld madness, maybe the other difficulties too, I didn't try them. If you kill Beezlebub first, Wrath just dies like a minion or something. I haven't played that one in a while, but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be like that.

That's funny, especially with Beelzebub being the least desirable eternal. He's at least in some way superior to Wrath.:rolleyes:

[HomemLivre]

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Looks like nothing will change... Image posted 13 min ago in the LOTB facebook page.
Destroy a toon, release another incredible unbalanced, say that something will be done before community says it need to be and do nothing.

Please Sparton, can you say if you guys are going to change Wrath or buff Visions?

[slauki]

Looks like nothing will change... Image posted 13 min ago in the LOTB facebook page.
Destroy a toon, release another incredible unbalanced, say that something will be done before community says it need to be and do nothing.

Please Sparton, can you say if you guys are going to change Wrath or buff Visions?

yes, wrath is a joke, but the devs told that is was kind of an copy and paste error. they took ingame (PVE) wrath and brought him into the arena.
otherwise it wouldn't make sense to nerf visions and release this beast....so i'm hopefull for the next changes.

[HomemLivre]

yes, wrath is a joke, but the devs told that is was kind of an copy and paste error. they took ingame (PVE) wrath and brought him into the arena.
otherwise it wouldn't make sense to nerf visions and release this beast....so i'm hopefull for the next changes.

Thats what its hard to understand, if a change is planned what is the meaning of this facebook post with this image? Looks more like they will make no change at all...

[slauki]

Thats what its hard to understand, if a change is planned what is the meaning of this facebook post with this image? Looks more like they will make no change at all...

he will still be very powerfull, maybe that's why? the devs have proven to be interested in the balancing aspect of the game, no way they leave him untouched intentionally i'd say...

[HomemLivre]

he will still be very powerfull, maybe that's why? the devs have proven to be interested in the balancing aspect of the game, no way they leave him untouched intentionally i'd say...

Hope so, mate!

[Coletrain]

Thats what its hard to understand, if a change is planned what is the meaning of this facebook post with this image? Looks more like they will make no change at all...

If I had to guess, I would bet that there are different people in charge of social media than the developers that we interact with. Even if they were to make some changes to Wrath, they wouldn't announce them for the first time in a social media post. I still believe he will be nerfed.

[HomemLivre]

If I had to guess, I would bet that there are different people in charge of social media than the developers that we interact with. Even if they were to make some changes to Wrath, they wouldn't announce them for the first time in a social media post. I still believe he will be nerfed.

Its a possibility indeed!

@Sparton_LOTB can you please confirm whats going on? Tks

[Kaz_LOTB]

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Looks like nothing will change... Image posted 13 min ago in the LOTB facebook page.
Destroy a toon, release another incredible unbalanced, say that something will be done before community says it need to be and do nothing.

Please Sparton, can you say if you guys are going to change Wrath or buff Visions?

The error related to Wrath's "Remove Beneficial Effects" chance scaling will be resolved in the next balance patch. His base chance will remain the same, but it will no longer scale. Timeline still TBD.

-Kaz

[HomemLivre]

The error related to Wrath's "Remove Beneficial Effects" chance scaling will be resolved in the next balance patch. His base chance will remain the same, but it will no longer scale. Timeline still TBD.

-Kaz

Tks for your answer Kaz, its a little annoying you guys nerf a toon to death and release another that break all the fun in the game and you have no idea when he will be fixed?

Will Visions be buffed again?

[Kaz_LOTB]

Tks for your answer Kaz, its a little annoying you guys nerf a toon to death and release another that break all the fun in the game and you have no idea when he will be fixed?

Will Visions be buffed again?

There will be some general rebalancing for removing beneficial effects to make defensive units more reliable in that reguard than offensive units. We'll look to post some details about that later this week.

-Kaz

[HomemLivre]

There will be some general rebalancing for removing beneficial effects to make defensive units more reliable in that reguard than offensive units. We'll look to post some details about that later this week.

-Kaz

Thanks Kaz, good to know. The game is unbalanced and now what you see in the arena is Wrath for all sides.
A lot of shards saved and nothing to do than grind..

Can't wait to see a patch notes and search for new combos and chars to upgrade.

[slauki]

The error related to Wrath's "Remove Beneficial Effects" chance scaling will be resolved in the next balance patch. His base chance will remain the same, but it will no longer scale. Timeline still TBD.

-Kaz

thanks for the info kaz. please check his powermove too, seems kinda too devastating to me. right now he is tearing arena apart.

[HomemLivre]

There will be some general rebalancing for removing beneficial effects to make defensive units more reliable in that reguard than offensive units. We'll look to post some details about that later this week.

-Kaz

Hey Kaz, what about this info you said?

[Sparton_LOTB]

Hey Kaz, what about this info you said?

Soon! I'm sanity checking his compilation of the preliminary character tuning between other tasks, and we should have something up within the next few hours.

[Bradata]

Soon! I'm sanity checking his compilation of the preliminary character tuning between other tasks, and we should have something up within the next few hours.

Please, tell me that the next update is gonna be more than just character tuning! Feed us, hungry beasts with some fresh meat, please!

[HomemLivre]

Soon! I'm sanity checking his compilation of the preliminary character tuning between other tasks, and we should have something up within the next few hours.

Tks Sparton, good to know that we finally have some info about what will change :D
Hope for some good new content hahaha

[Sparton_LOTB]

Please, tell me that the next update is gonna be more than just character tuning! Feed us, hungry beasts with some fresh meat, please!

The next update will definitely have more than character tuning, but compiling details and confirmed fixes for non-character stuff always takes substantially longer, so those details won't be shared until around the time the next update actually goes live.

[Bradata]

The next update will definitely have more than character tuning, but compiling details and confirmed fixes for non-character stuff always takes substantially longer, so those details won't be shared until around the time the next update actually goes live.

Thank you for the quick response, this is a very good news! Don't mind us, we are all wining grown up babies who still play games :confused:
Thanks!

[Sparton_LOTB]

July 2017 Tuning - PRELIMINARY (http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?6365) is now up with a preview of the upcoming character and talisman tuning.