PDA

View Full Version : Dropchance Estimation For Immortal Fragments



slauki
05-20-2017, 11:06 AM
Numbers are somewhat large enough, wont post more thanks guys for contributing and beware of the 1200 ironite deal :P




Hey guys and girls,

as the old forum members know, i love these kind of threads :)

So the Idea in short:

The crucial part about the immortal soul event is the dropchance of the fragments. If they drop like rare souls we will never get an eddie in 48 hours ;).

To get a quick idea of the dropchances i would like to ask you to post the number of fragments you get for every refill.

For example 2 refills --> 50 fragments

i will edit the start post and after some hours we will have a real good idea of the dropchances.

So we will know very fast if it's a reasonable investment or a fuckup. If we play all on our own it might take 24 hours or more to get a grasp of it. With the power of the swarm we might get an idea very soon, if some of you participate....

okay guys and girls good luck for your favourite eddie (hoping for cyborg, samurai, rainmaker and aces high and 100 skillshards ;-) )


Avarage number of fragments:

Level VII
Refills: 3
fragments: 195
Avarage: 65 per refill


Level VIII
Refills:
Fragments: 40
Avarage: 20 per refill


Level IX
Refills: 1
Fragments: 95

Avarage: 95 per refill


Level X
Refills: 101
Fragments: 8560

Avarage: 85 per refill

Tridimensionale
05-20-2017, 11:15 AM
And the prof strikes again :D i'm in

Nekroliun
05-20-2017, 11:33 AM
I guess ill try and help! Although i like... have no ironite...

druid138
05-20-2017, 02:53 PM
Thanks for coordinating this! It would also be good if people would note which LoL floor(s) they focused on during each refill. I plan to do X manually as much as I can, but I'm sure some refills will be spent on VII or VIII, so I can do them on auto while giving attention to other things that can't be neglected. Thanks again!

druid138-6195

druid138
05-20-2017, 03:23 PM
Maybe we could track it according to floors played (which one and how many times) instead of refills:

VII: __ fragments from __ rounds
VIII: __ fragments from __ rounds
X: __ fragments from __ rounds

druid138-6195

slauki
05-20-2017, 04:15 PM
Thanks for coordinating this! It would also be good if people would note which LoL floor(s) they focused on during each refill. I plan to do X manually as much as I can, but I'm sure some refills will be spent on VII or VIII, so I can do them on auto while giving attention to other things that can't be neglected. Thanks again!

druid138-6195

Great thank you for the input, very good idea. Will put in the stages later.will also play level x all the time.

Crazypants
05-20-2017, 04:57 PM
Unless the drop rates are complete garbage im probably going to spend Ieveral thousand ironite on this event. Will edit this post with my results.



Level X
Refills: 4
Fragments: 275 fragments

First Eddie - Pharaoh
Notable drops - Rare soul that got me a Visions Eddie.

Tritium
05-20-2017, 05:41 PM
Slauki, again, your creativity is proving to be a boon for us players. :) Thanks for taking the time to make this thread to crowdfund info on the Immortal Soul event!

slauki
05-20-2017, 05:59 PM
Unless the drop rates are complete garbage im probably going to spend Ieveral thousand ironite on this event. Will edit this post with my results.

great thank you, i'm also planning to push hard depending on the droprate. if it's fair i might spend some k of ironite
if they are really bad i might skip this whole event.


Slauki, again, your creativity is proving to be a boon for us players. :) Thanks for taking the time to make this thread to crowdfund info on the Immortal Soul event!

you are very welcome man, we are all in the same boat so why not help each other and work together instead of badmouthing one another :)

hold
05-20-2017, 06:46 PM
great thank you, i'm also planning to push hard depending on the droprate. if it's fair i might spend some k of ironite
if they are really bad i might skip this whole event.



you are very welcome man, we are all in the same boat so why not help each other and work together instead of badmouthing one another :)

Will do the same - couple of refills and after that decide if it's worth or not. 500 fragments sounds a lot though.

druid138
05-21-2017, 12:31 AM
First refill done.

11 runs at LoL X got me 45 fragments. I got 35 from the first 3 runs, but only 10 from the last 8.

The 10 free fragments in the Store were nice.

1200 Ironite for 250 fragments. That amount of Ironite buys 40 refills . . .

druid138-6195

Rodrigo-3281
05-21-2017, 12:34 AM
One refill down. I tried 2x in LOL X and got nothing. Did the rest on LOX IX and got 80 total fragments.

Tritium
05-21-2017, 12:38 AM
First 10 runs of LoL VII netted me 70 fragments. I'm keeping a spreadsheet of my results so far.

slauki
05-21-2017, 12:40 AM
first numbers are out guys, seems very promising so far will update every 30-45 minutes check the starting post

BTW you can post refills or rounds you have played will convert 11 rounts to one refill...

Tritium
05-21-2017, 12:43 AM
BTW you can post refills or rounds you have played will convert 11 rounts to one refill...

Oh, if that's the case, then put me down for 11 rounds (one refill) at LoL VII (7) netted me 75 fragments total.

Coletrain
05-21-2017, 12:45 AM
Alrighty, here are some numbers from my first run through:

Level X
Refills: 1+ (I had daily reward SoT carry over)
Fragments: 70
Average: 70 per refill

Considering I had more than a full refill in SoT to start, I wanted to include an additional number. I did 13 battles of LoL X, so the Average Per Battle is 5.384615385 Immortal Soul Fragments. Seems like a decent rate of return to me.

Another thing I wanted to consider was the cost of the Immortal Fragment Pack in the store. It's 1200 Ironite for 250 Immortal Fragments + 3 Precious Souls. Discounting the addition of Precious Souls, how does purchasing the pack stack up against using that Ironite on Sands of Time & earning the fragments via LoL? Here's how I looked at it:

-With that 1200 Ironite, you can buy 40 refills of Sands of Time
-With that 40 refills, you have 3200 Sands of Time
-With that 3200 Sands of Time (not accounting for Sands accrued at the end of a battle), you can complete 400 rounds of LoL X
-Assuming average rate of return, 400 rounds of LoL X will net you 2153.846154 Immortal Soul Fragments (this is based on my Average Per Battle Number)

All in all, it looks like plowing through LoL X will provide the best rate of return vs purchasing the pack, if you have the time to do it. That said, if I have the chance to get another Immortal Soul towards the end of the event, I may buy it.

EDIT: Looking at other numbers, it looks like most levels of LoL are providing decent return. For those that didn't do LoL X, how many per instance were you netting? I got 10 fragments sometimes, 15 fragments a few times as well.

Tritium
05-21-2017, 12:47 AM
Awesome analysis, Coletrain! I figured the 1200 ironite pack wasn't worth it if you have spare time to kill with refills. For the busy players, it certainly is an option.

slauki
05-21-2017, 12:49 AM
btw please post new comments for new numbers, otherwise it will be hard to follow...

druid138
05-21-2017, 12:59 AM
First refill done.

11 runs at LoL X got me 45 fragments. I got 35 from the first 3 runs, but only 10 from the last 8.

The 10 free fragments in the Store were nice.

1200 Ironite for 250 fragments. That amount of Ironite buys 40 refills . . .

druid138-6195

Second refill done.

11 runs at LoL X got me 50 fragments.

Others seem to be having better luck than me so far. I'm doing the spreadsheet thing too. My wife thinks I've lost my mind.

druid138-6195

RCarter
05-21-2017, 01:00 AM
10 runs through LoL X=45 frags.

Tritium
05-21-2017, 01:01 AM
Second refill (11 runs) of LoL VII netted me 55 fragments.

Rodrigo-3281
05-21-2017, 01:05 AM
Second refill of 11 runs at LOX IX got me 70 fragments. BTW-the most I've seen been given out is 15. Has anybody seen any higher than that? Got to go out for dinner and go see Alien so I'll be out for a while but this seems promising.

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:09 AM
I started off with 59 SoT and bought one refill

Roughly 20 LoL X done, currently at 140 fragments

Edit: those 1200 ironites for 250 fragments would give you 40 refills. Not worth :D

R1ck
05-21-2017, 01:13 AM
1 refill
10 rounds in LoL X
135 fragments

Will see in second refill

Tritium
05-21-2017, 01:21 AM
3rd refill in LoL VII netted me a measly 40 fragments. I'm going to try LoL X for the next refill.

RCarter
05-21-2017, 01:22 AM
20 X runs total= 85 total frags.

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:29 AM
2nd fill

2 round on IX = 15
rest on X = 90

slauki
05-21-2017, 01:32 AM
20 X runs total= 85 total frags.

@RCARTER
20 times level X for 85 total? bad luck bro

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:40 AM
3rd fill LoL x

30 fragments (duh) and a rare soul which gave me dupe Pharaoh Eddie awwwyeah

Tritium
05-21-2017, 01:44 AM
Haha nice, Enti!

4th refill of LoL X gave me 120 fragments. Seems like LoL X is better than VII, even though VII is cheap enough to give you one extra run per refill.

druid138
05-21-2017, 01:45 AM
Edit: those 1200 ironites for 250 fragments would give you 40 refills. Not worth :D

Right, the only way that makes sense is if you need those 250 fragments to push you over the edge at the end. No one should be buying that until 30 minutes before event expiration.

druid138-6195

MrFreeze
05-21-2017, 01:49 AM
Started with 60 SoT plus 2 refills. Total of 220 Sot. I've got 215 fragments. All on LoL X. I like it. I think they did alright with this one.

RCarter
05-21-2017, 01:53 AM
30 X runs = 110 total frags

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:58 AM
4th fill X - 75 frag

I will keep track of this until my first pull then I'll go sleep... 4am here

HomemLivre
05-21-2017, 02:02 AM
4th fill X - 75 frag

I will keep track of this until my first pull then I'll go sleep... 4am here

Wow! Numbers are really bad for me, 12 runs in a row without a single fragment... only doing Level 10.

Enti
05-21-2017, 02:11 AM
5th fill X - 55 frag

With this pace I will need 2 more fills for the first pull

Tritium
05-21-2017, 02:12 AM
5th refill LoL X: 90 fragments

Taking a break for now.

RCarter
05-21-2017, 02:19 AM
Totals- 40 X runs 195 frags

druid138
05-21-2017, 02:21 AM
Third refill done.

13 runs at LoL 8 (so I could do auto) got me 25 fragments. My cumulative summary so far:

22 runs at X for 95
13 runs at 8 for 25

druid138-6195

Enti
05-21-2017, 02:24 AM
6th fill X - 110 frag

And my first Immortal Eddie is Viking, which was missing :) 1 down, 3 to go

HomemLivre
05-21-2017, 02:29 AM
6th fill X - 110 frag

And my first Immortal Eddie is Viking, which was missing :) 1 down, 3 to go

Nice pull!

50 runs and 335 fragments for now

RCarter
05-21-2017, 02:45 AM
Totals

50 X= 250 frags

HomemLivre
05-21-2017, 02:50 AM
are you doing LoL 10?

druid138
05-21-2017, 02:54 AM
Fourth refill done.

11 runs at LoL 8 (so I could do auto) got me 15 fragments. 15! My cumulative summary so far:

22 runs at X for 95
24 runs at 8 for 40

Maybe today isn't my day.

druid138-6195

slauki
05-21-2017, 03:03 AM
6th fill X - 110 frag

And my first Immortal Eddie is Viking, which was missing :) 1 down, 3 to go

congrats enti, great pull i got samurai, which i was missing. and then i had 2 g/a souls in store from pvp and sq...
the pvp soul gave me burning mummy dog and the sq soul gave me rainmaker, which i was missing too :D
extremly lucky day so far or good karma :D


Fourth refill done.

11 runs at LoL 8 (so I could do auto) got me 15 fragments. 15! My cumulative summary so far:

22 runs at X for 95
24 runs at 8 for 40

Maybe today isn't my day.

druid138-6195

sorry man keep playing the avarage numbers show that it's fair, but i had also streaks with 40 and 50 fragents. i'm very sure btw that level X is the sweet spot...

RCarter
05-21-2017, 03:10 AM
60 X = 325 total

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 03:11 AM
Event didn't start till 8am here but the weather is crap so I had a lay in till 9:30am. Only managed to do 1 full run with full SoT I had and got 60 fragments which includes the free 10 pack in the store (nice touch devs). Not sure if what I have got is average so far but I hope I can get a Soul today as might struggle on Monday as got a hectic day at work lined up.

RCarter
05-21-2017, 03:30 AM
70 X = 365 frags

Only 40 over the last 10. That sucked.

slauki
05-21-2017, 03:38 AM
70 X = 365 frags

Only 40 over the last 10. That sucked.

would be hgelpfull if you could post the earned ones per refill seperatly, so that can calculate them easier :D

but man you are unlucky so far.

will add up the numbers and go to bed guys, cya tomorrow

RCarter
05-21-2017, 04:14 AM
would be hgelpfull if you could post the earned ones per refill seperatly, so that can calculate them easier :D

Yeah, too much whiskey and sweet leaf to track refills, sorry. Probably about 12-14 runs per refill. Just doing ticks on my sheet. Figured refill count was kinda moot considering bonus SoT awards are at the hand of RNGesus.

80 X = 460.

Nice come back that I attribute to the randomizer pulling up Fear of the Dark from June 2003 at Waldrock. One of the best Maiden boots I have ever heard. Super clean recording of a great set.

Followed by When the Wild Wind Blows from Moscow 2011.

Tritium
05-21-2017, 04:18 AM
Back for some more runs.

6th refill LoL X: 75 fragments


Btw, for those of you who are having trouble autoing LoL X, here's the team I'm using if it's any help: Maxed Soldier Eddie, Maxed AoF, Maxed AGS, and an unsharded Assassin ABB. This team has done really well, and in over 30 runs has only lost once because my Assassin ABB decided to use his power move at the worst possible moment. I really wish we could have autofarming settings and could choose to have certain toons only use their basic attacks.

druid138
05-21-2017, 04:28 AM
I'm back from a break, too.

Fifth refill done.

14 runs at LoL X got me 60 fragments. One of those runs ended in my first MACL0 of the night. My cumulative summary so far:

36 runs at X for 155 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

It's gonna be a late night!

druid138-6195

Tritium
05-21-2017, 04:38 AM
7th refill LoL X: 70 fragments

Crazypants
05-21-2017, 04:47 AM
5th refill done. All on LOL X.

Refill 3
100 frags

Refill 4
90 frags

Refill 5
95 frags

RCarter
05-21-2017, 04:47 AM
94 X runs for 500 frags.

752 SoT, guessing 12 runs per refill with regular accrued time complicating the equation.

All for my fourth Shaman.

Sweet?

Tritium
05-21-2017, 05:03 AM
8th refill LoL X: 75 frags

First Immortal Soul = Aces High Eddie. Not a dupe, so I'm happy!

druid138
05-21-2017, 05:13 AM
Sixth refill done.

13 runs at LoL X got me 90 fragments. Sticking with LoL X now, even though I have to play it manually. My cumulative summary so far:

49 runs at X for 245 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

druid138-6195

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 05:13 AM
Just got 95 from my ordinary SoT... time to start refilling...

Tritium
05-21-2017, 05:17 AM
Just got 95 from my ordinary SoT... time to start refilling...

Refilling for dayzz. I've got 1300 ironite to burn and not enough time and phone battery to go through it all. :( My emulator doesn't open the LoL until 12am PST for some reason, so I have to use my phone.

Edit: Nvm, turns out the reason my emulator wouldn't open LoL was because I had it set to sync the time with my computer. Resetting that option made LoL open up. :D

2nd Edit:
9th refill LoL X: 100 frags

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 05:40 AM
Refilling for dayzz. I've got 1300 ironite to burn and not enough time and phone battery to go through it all. :( My emulator doesn't open the LoL until 12am PST for some reason, so I have to use my phone.

Edit: Nvm, turns out the reason my emulator wouldn't open LoL was because I had it set to sync the time with my computer. Resetting that option made LoL open up. :D

But how!!? Its been like 5 hours of LoL and not days!

Unless... DID THE EVENT OPEN EARLY?!? DID I MISS THE EVENT WHILE SLEEPING? OMG I SLEPT FOR DAYS! OMG IS SLEPT THROUGH THE EVENT!

Jofer16
05-21-2017, 05:42 AM
Refilling for dayzz. I've got 1300 ironite to burn

The Clint of LoL, sorry I had to bahaha

druid138
05-21-2017, 05:47 AM
Seventh refill done.

11 runs at LoL X got me 60 fragments. My cumulative summary so far:

60 runs at X for 305 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

druid138-6195

Tritium
05-21-2017, 06:02 AM
But how!!? Its been like 5 hours of LoL and not days!

Unless... DID THE EVENT OPEN EARLY?!? DID I MISS THE EVENT WHILE SLEEPING? OMG I SLEPT FOR DAYS! OMG IS SLEPT THROUGH THE EVENT!

Hahaha


The Clint of LoL, sorry I had to bahaha

Lol oh god, that guy was a piece of work.



On topic: 10th refill LoL X: 70 frags

And on that note, I'm done with reporting now. 10 refills (110 total runs) is enough tracking for me. Now to go for as many 5* Eddies as possible before this great event ends!

Jofer16
05-21-2017, 06:26 AM
Hahaha



Lol oh god, that guy was a piece of work.



On topic: 10th refill LoL X: 70 frags

And on that note, I'm done with reporting now. 10 refills (110 total runs) is enough tracking for me. Now to go for as many 5* Eddies as possible before this great event ends!

Soul #2, Viking Eddie, the one I wanted the most! SKOL!

druid138
05-21-2017, 06:29 AM
Eighth refill done.

12 runs at LoL X got me 70 fragments. My cumulative summary so far:

72 runs at X for 375 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

druid138-6195

Tritium
05-21-2017, 06:30 AM
Nice pull, Jofer!


For anyone who needs autofarming team help, I switched out my Assassin ABB as his power move is far more of a liability than it is useful in autofarming. Now I'm running with a team that most veteran players should have access to: Soldier Ed, AoF, AGS, and the new contender, Assassin Soulless Demon! The purple SD works really well in autofarming with the recent update that makes him get an extra turn when using his power move. Too awesome with his invincibility!

powerslave74
05-21-2017, 06:55 AM
I got a late jump on the event today; life gets in the way sometimes.

13 runs @X
115 fragments

This is not including the 10 free fragments. That was a nice touch devs, thank you! I am happy so far with the results. I started my first refill and realized that I needed to charge my phone, so my next report will include some extra runs because of the SOT I earn back from the time not playing the game.

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 06:56 AM
While u are figuring out a team that can auto the lvl, im figuring out a team that can actully beat it...

I came up with a team, any ordinary player could make:

AG, Nomad ,AoF (naked (aka no talismans) and soldier!

Round 1: Everyone fuckng attacks a golden son (always), except nomad, nomad then uses mirage on the son that revived himself, kills all enemies, golden sons revive, u get extra turn, kill all that is left.

Round 2: repeat same shit

Round 3: switch to the carriage rider that i totally mentioned u gotta have, use fury, rape a golden son, mirage on the revived son, gain a turn, switch back to soldier (there should be a son and the lol left), use roulette, hope u get energy, use AG's grand strategy, attack Lucifer with AoF and nomad, done.

And thats how i made my ultimate strategy for flawlessing gunner X

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 07:09 AM
Wow is it just me or did the drops just become pathetic af?

Just did a refill and im midway through another and i got 15!

Tritium
05-21-2017, 07:10 AM
While u are figuring out a team that can auto the lvl, im figuring out a team that can actully beat it...

I came up with AG, Nomad ,AoF (naked (aka no talismans) and soldier!

Round 1: Everyone fuckng attacks a golden son (always), except nomad, nomad then uses mirage on the son that revived himself, kills all enemies, golden sons revive, u get extra turn, kill all that is left.

Round 2: repeat same shit

Round 3: switch to the carriage rider that i totally mentioned u gotta have, use fury, rape a golden son, mirage on the revived son, gain a turn, switch back to soldier (there should be a son and the lol left), use roulette, hope u get energy, use AG's grand strategy, attack Lucifer with AoF and nomad, done.

And thats how i made my ultimate strategy for flawlessing gunner X

Meh, too much work. Far easier to just auto it. 😜


On a side note, none of us are gonna have trouble leveling any new gunner and assassin toons we pull after this event! :p

druid138
05-21-2017, 07:11 AM
Ninth refill done.

13 runs at LoL X got me 100 fragments. My cumulative summary so far:

85 runs at X for 475 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

druid138-6195

druid138
05-21-2017, 07:13 AM
On a side note, none of us are gonna have trouble leveling any new gunner and assassin toons we pull after this event! :p

I was thinking the same thing. With the recent NoL change, I find Gunner LoL much easier than Assassin on Floor 10. So, I'm trying to get as many Gunner refills in as possible.

druid138-6195

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 07:26 AM
Meh, too much work. Far easier to just auto it. ��


On a side note, none of us are gonna have trouble leveling any new gunner and assassin toons we pull after this event! :p

Its 50/50 (but not really cuz there are more than 4 eddies) for me, if i get aces high or vampire hunter, sacrifice. If rainmaker or cyborg, lvl 100

Btw idk how u guys like gunner, his fury and he revive of the fucking holden sons is ass.

Tritium
05-21-2017, 07:39 AM
Btw idk how u guys like gunner, his fury and he revive of the fucking holden sons is ass.

Wait until tomorrow and you'll see why. :p

I remember even before the NoL buff that people used to say the assassin LoL dungeon was the hardest one to auto. Now, that's even more true since the NoLs strip any buffs you put up. Also, if you fail to wipe out the enemy AGSs in one go, they'll cast endure and pummel you into the ground.

Enti
05-21-2017, 07:41 AM
Meh, too much work. Far easier to just auto it. 😜


On a side note, none of us are gonna have trouble leveling any new gunner and assassin toons we pull after this event! :p

Yup haha I am only missing some Assassins and Gunners from all 5* roster, will not have any problems later on with this :D
I'm using AoF, Soldier Ed, AGS and Prisoner and so far no issues :)

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 07:42 AM
Wait until tomorrow and you'll see why. :p

I remember even before the NoL buff that people used to say the assassin LoL dungeon was the hardest one to auto. Now, that's even more true since the NoLs strip any buffs you put up. Also, if you fail to wipe out the enemy AGSs in one go, they'll cast endure and pummel you into the ground.

I dont follow the patches, dunno what buff ur talking about :)

And idk about u but i always thought Assassin LoL to be the easiest :)

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 07:50 AM
Well shit.

Just got a late with ag, good with soldier and perfect with AoF, didnt kill the son... pretty weird cuzbi always land perfects

Plan B, kill a newborn with nomad, fuckig failed, got late and he survived with like 1k.

They fucking rape my AoF, rip extra turn.

Plan C, get Grim Reaper up in here and ress AoF, while expecting to get an extra turn cuz he killed his target, useless AoF comes back with -93 hp and gets raped again, then they rape Grim Reaper (naked btw) and i lose.

This was wave 2

blackbolt
05-21-2017, 08:04 AM
Here my numbers:

with my initial SoT (without the amount for SL) and 3 refills, i played 47 match on LOL X = 460 fragments and 89 common souls

at the 4th refill the droprate felt and i've only got 40 fragments

It seems to me that the game give you fragments more frequently if you kill the boss at the first round...

Btw, my pull was a dupe vampire hunter eddie...rng hates me...

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 08:17 AM
I am finding my Magus Corrupt Rescuer is a godsend here. She is pretty much freezing the whole team every time at the start of the round when I use her power move. From there I am using my Nomad, AoF and whatever Trooper's Eddie to pick them off. Saying that I am close to the point of using all my Trooper's Eddies up and am going to have to use Trooper's other chars so I will have to drop Nomad or AoF out.

powerslave74
05-21-2017, 08:20 AM
I just finished my first refill after letting my phone charge up.

18 runs @ X
125 fragments

It is getting late here, so it's off to bed for me. I will recharge my phone when I get up and play through my free sands of time and report it here as soon as I finish. Hopefully, this will help Slauki with his statistics.

druid138
05-21-2017, 08:53 AM
10th refill done.

13 runs at LoL X got me 75 fragments. My cumulative summary so far:

98 runs at X for 550 (1 MACL0)
24 runs at 8 for 40

At this point, I think I'll just report cumulative totals every 5 refills. Good luck everyone!

druid138-6195

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 08:55 AM
4th refill and im out of ironite. Will be after skme time and prob will play norma sht to get more ironite

400/500

slauki
05-21-2017, 09:23 AM
guys you are awesome added all missing posts, thank you for contributing

we are corrently at:

Level X
Refills: 67
Fragments: 5475

Avarage: 82 per refill


will complete till 100 refills then i will make a cut since the numbers won't change much again. great event that let us forget about many bad things for a while, thanks devs for this one.

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 09:42 AM
2nd refill done

14 runs at X = 100 fragments

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 10:02 AM
Shouldnt we try IX?

Tridimensionale
05-21-2017, 10:34 AM
So the first 5 refill level X give me 520 fragments..

Got the Visions which is not a dupe so it s good.. the funny thing is that its like three months i m spending badges into red souls only to get the nomad and never get it, today farming like a bot in LOL X i got 2 rare soul--> one was the nomad xD can t really blame the rng this time.. i love this event .. i ll keep farming for the cyborg :cool:

slauki
05-21-2017, 11:07 AM
Shouldnt we try IX?

nah won't waste my time with others than level X and i won't advice anyone to try if the chances are better, i'm sure they are not :D

only 37 hours to go :D

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 11:45 AM
nah won't waste my time with others than level X and i won't advice anyone to try if the chances are better, i'm sure they are not :D

only 37 hours to go :D

But u have no proof so u cant be sure! Im gonna do the shit! Wasnt FoTD's best loot on hard or smth? Maybe same shit!

R1ck
05-21-2017, 11:50 AM
It took me 5 refills and 30 SoT from sixth to get 500 fragments which gave a Viking Eddie, not a dupe and I am happy. Hoping to get cyborg.

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 12:07 PM
3rd fill done. 12 runs at X yielded 90 fragments

blackbolt
05-21-2017, 01:10 PM
I'm at refill n.7 and I dropped nothing on an entire refill? Wtf? They're nerfing the odds? I offended the RNG Lord?

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 01:13 PM
I'm at refill n.7 and I dropped nothing on an entire refill? Wtf? They're nerfing the odds? I offended the RNG Lord?

Damn, i finished my ironite storage so no more refills, i need 25 fragments! Played 7 times since i lost my ironite by waiting. Not a single drop. I fucking got 95 on my first refill!

zdm-1083
05-21-2017, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the thread.


Alrighty, here are some numbers from my first run through:

Level X
Refills: 1+ (I had daily reward SoT carry over)
Fragments: 70
Average: 70 per refill

Considering I had more than a full refill in SoT to start, I wanted to include an additional number. I did 13 battles of LoL X, so the Average Per Battle is 5.384615385 Immortal Soul Fragments. Seems like a decent rate of return to me.

Another thing I wanted to consider was the cost of the Immortal Fragment Pack in the store. It's 1200 Ironite for 250 Immortal Fragments + 3 Precious Souls. Discounting the addition of Precious Souls, how does purchasing the pack stack up against using that Ironite on Sands of Time & earning the fragments via LoL? Here's how I looked at it:

-With that 1200 Ironite, you can buy 40 refills of Sands of Time
-With that 40 refills, you have 3200 Sands of Time
-With that 3200 Sands of Time (not accounting for Sands accrued at the end of a battle), you can complete 400 rounds of LoL X
-Assuming average rate of return, 400 rounds of LoL X will net you 2153.846154 Immortal Soul Fragments (this is based on my Average Per Battle Number)

All in all, it looks like plowing through LoL X will provide the best rate of return vs purchasing the pack, if you have the time to do it. That said, if I have the chance to get another Immortal Soul towards the end of the event, I may buy it.

EDIT: Looking at other numbers, it looks like most levels of LoL are providing decent return. For those that didn't do LoL X, how many per instance were you netting? I got 10 fragments sometimes, 15 fragments a few times as well.

Thanks for the maths :'(
Got 10 or 15 fragments each time I get some.


Edit: those 1200 ironites for 250 fragments would give you 40 refills. Not worth :D


Right, the only way that makes sense is if you need those 250 fragments to push you over the edge at the end. No one should be buying that until 30 minutes before event expiration.

druid138-6195

omg, I woke up this morning, see this new thing, begin to play pull out 30 after almost 10 LOLX and went for the 1200 pack because I was thinking it will be hard.
I also did not catch that is not limited in 5* Eddie invocation...

Now I'm with almost 2K ironite left.
I'm mad :mad:
I should came here before doing any shit next time.

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 01:33 PM
Just used up another full SoT. Got 125 fragments off 13 runs at X. Only need 75 for Soul now

slauki
05-21-2017, 01:40 PM
But u have no proof so u cant be sure! Im gonna do the shit! Wasnt FoTD's best loot on hard or smth? Maybe same shit!

no proof nekro but some common sense ;) they told the droprates are the best in X so i will go for it :P


Thanks for the thread.
omg, I woke up this morning, see this new thing, begin to play pull out 30 after almost 10 LOLX and went for the 1200 pack because I was thinking it will be hard.
I also did not catch that is not limited in 5* Eddie invocation...

Now I'm with almost 2K ironite left.
I'm mad :mad:
I should came here before doing any shit next time.

sorry to hear man the pack is ridiculously overpriced

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:40 PM
Hmmm

The RNG is strong with this one:

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

And I also pulled another Pharaoh from Rare Soul during event. WTF xDDD

IZI
05-21-2017, 01:48 PM
Got a Visions Eddie with the first 500. Halfway through the next 500 hoping for a Cyborg. I've only played level 7.

Jofer16
05-21-2017, 01:49 PM
Hmmm

The RNG is strong with this one:

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

And I also pulled another Pharaoh from Rare Soul during event. WTF xDDD

Halfway to my 4th soul, so far: Visions, Viking, Viking. I sense a sentinel theme with us haha

Nekroliun
05-21-2017, 01:56 PM
Halfway to my 4th soul, so far: Visions, Viking, Viking. I sense a sentinel theme with us haha

Just how much ironite do u have! U make me feel like a poor man! (Cuz i am)

Im like 25 of my first soul...

Enti
05-21-2017, 01:59 PM
Halfway to my 4th soul, so far: Visions, Viking, Viking. I sense a sentinel theme with us haha

From Exalted sacrifice of the two Pharaohs I got 50 rare soul yielding a Visions... vortex fill soon :D

Browno
05-21-2017, 02:26 PM
2000 points gathered on x. On average 65 points per 80 sot

PerthEddie
05-21-2017, 02:38 PM
Just finished another full SoT. Sorry, didn't take any notice of how many runs. Got 95 on that batch so 520 total off 5 full SoT (which is what some one gelse got I think). It is getting late here now (22:35) so that might be it for today. I am hoping to try and get at least 2 souls out of this (ideally 3).

Stupid question but what do I do now - press "Convert" or " Claim"? Must admit I am apprehensive about opening it. The only 5* Eddie I have ever got is Visions and I just know I am going to get a dupe of it :(

Enti
05-21-2017, 02:42 PM
Just finished another full SoT. Sorry, didn't take any notice of how many runs. Got 95 on that batch so 520 total off 5 full SoT (which is what some one gelse got I think). It is getting late here now (22:35) so that might be it for today. I am hoping to try and get at least 2 souls out of this (ideally 3).

Stupid question but what do I do now - press "Convert" or " Claim"? Must admit I am apprehensive about opening it. The only 5* Eddie I have ever got is Visions and I just know I am going to get a dupe of it :(

Convert will prompt you to change the immortal fragments to precious ones. Use Claim, then go to Book of Souls and do the regular process

hold
05-21-2017, 02:58 PM
I can't weigh in with accurate numbers - had a burst water pipe in the bathroom this morning and was fixing it all day - farming LoL X at the same time ... I hope there are no LoTB leaks now :)

But the average 60-80ish per refill seem about right. Could also convert my first soul and got a Vampire - not a dupe! Cool ...

Off to the pub now but will farm LoL X later. My auto farming team is not the fastest but very reliable if somebody is searching for a team. They are all full sharded:

CR, Sentinel Harpy, Red Troll, AGS

P.S: One MACL0 today but got the drop after the restart - including 15 fragments ... MACL0 still not nice but at least it seems you don't loose that much any more - not sure about the trooper points. So whoever it was - sorry!

zdm-1083
05-21-2017, 03:00 PM
sorry to hear man the pack is ridiculously overpriced

Well could be good to put info on the first post about this overpriced pack?
I should not play Sunday morning with brain that remain on my bed...

On my side duplicate Viking Eddie on first invocation.
On the ride for second. (Viking?)

slauki
05-21-2017, 04:04 PM
Numbers are somewhat large enough, wont post more thanks guys for contributing and beware of the 1200 ironite deal :P

Final result every revill gives you 85 fragments on avagage. thanks nf for this fair deal, i really appreciate this. best event ever.

Enti
05-21-2017, 04:07 PM
Okay I'm getting pissed now, really

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

WTF

angelkelly
05-21-2017, 04:16 PM
Okay I'm getting pissed now, really

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

WTF

Sorry to laugh but this shit is so funny. Lol😂😂😂😂😂

Enti
05-21-2017, 04:18 PM
Sorry to laugh but this shit is so funny. Lol����������

PHARAOOOAOAAAAH *autistic screeching* xDD

Tritium
05-21-2017, 04:44 PM
Okay I'm getting pissed now, really

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

WTF

Lol dude, wow. I can imagine there's a player out there who really wants Pharaoh and is jealous of your luck haha.

My 2nd Immortal Soul granted me a Samurai Eddie! Not a dupe. :D

R1ck
05-21-2017, 05:02 PM
1st soul a Viking, second one also a Viking

Mmm going out with family now, maybe at night will try more

zdm-1083
05-21-2017, 05:12 PM
For the record, I have Viking, Vampire and Shaman Eddies before the event.

I target to burn 2K ironite, after my """invest""" in 1200 pack meaning that I should be able to invoc at least 5 5* Eddies.
Got Viking on first soul, if I got only dupes as Enti, I will be not mad but madness itself XD

Tritium
05-21-2017, 05:29 PM
Got Viking on first soul, if I got only dupes as Enti, I will be not mad but madness itself XD

Haha, man, the dupes are perfect for sacrifice though! Nothing gives more essence than a natural 5* Eddie (especially the G/A ones), so bring on the dupes! :p

blackbolt
05-21-2017, 05:29 PM
This game hates me...I've got:
Vampire Hunter dupe
Cyborg Eddie dupe
Aces High dupe
I filled the vortex with common souls and I've got: Aces high dupe WTF!

Instead of pharaoh I'll scream Aceshiiiiiighhh!

BTW, I'm sure that the game lowers the droprate since the first soul is achieved, my droprate felt from 365 fragment x 3 refills, to 200 then 135 fragments x 3 refills...it's too strange to simply be a bad luck issue...

At least I can try the ultimate sacrifice...and get another Aces high Eddie...

Nicko
05-21-2017, 05:43 PM
Hmmm

The RNG is strong with this one:

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh

And I also pulled another Pharaoh from Rare Soul during event. WTF xDDD

Man - that sucks. Good essence though ;)

And I see Jofer just got two Vikings in a row. Brings back the conspiracy theory that's been tossed about - are certain accounts predisposed to get certain toons? Or is it all luck? You would think pulls like yours are just random - but they seem to occur pretty often

Here's to a non-Pharaoh fourth Immortal Soul...

Nicko
05-21-2017, 05:44 PM
Haha, man, the dupes are perfect for sacrifice though! Nothing gives more essence than a natural 5* Eddie (especially the G/A ones), so bring on the dupes! :p

And with all the shards from farming it's easy to level them up ;)

Nicko
05-21-2017, 05:49 PM
Soul 1: Visions Eddie (Dupe)

Soul 2: Cyborg Eddie :cool:

Soul 3: Samurai Eddie (Dupe)

Considering I've wanted a Cyborg as long as I've known he's existed - this event has made my week

Hoping for a couple more before the dungeon turns Purple...

Tritium
05-21-2017, 05:58 PM
Before Assassin day starts, do any of you have good autofarming team tips for Assassin LoL X stage for those of us without a Prisoner? With any luck, I might get lucky and pull him from a legendary or G/A soul granted from a vortex bonus before the event ends, but until that happens (or doesn't), stage X will be quite tough to auto. :S

So far, I'm toying with using Cyborg (or Soldier Ed), DM, Gunner GS, and AoF. Three single-target attackers should hopefully keep the revenges to a minimum, RNGesus willing.

druid138
05-21-2017, 06:39 PM
I'm happy to see the good luck that most of you are having! I'm going to wait and redeem all my Immortal Souls at once when the event ends. Keep the luck flowing!

druid138-6195

Enti
05-21-2017, 06:41 PM
5th pull - VE dupe

druid138
05-21-2017, 06:48 PM
Does anyone have a sense of whether GA Eddies are just as likely to come from the Immortals as non-GA Eddies?

druid138-6195

Crazypants
05-21-2017, 06:56 PM
1st - Pharaoh (:cool: non dupe)
2nd - Visions ( :cool: non dupe)
3rd - Visons (:mad: wtf dupe)
4th - in progress

Shaolin85london
05-21-2017, 07:00 PM
1st - Pharaoh (:cool: non dupe)
2nd - Visions ( :cool: non dupe)
3rd - Visons (:mad: wtf dupe)
4th - in progress

Ahahah well done!

druid138
05-21-2017, 07:31 PM
By the way, I've been doing only LoL 8 for the past few hours, so I can have it on auto.

After 54 runs, I've got 345 fragments. Not too bad. Something to keep in mind when the dungeon changes to purple in a few hours.

druid138-6195

Tridimensionale
05-21-2017, 07:33 PM
2nd pull ---> shaman (dupe)

Tritium
05-21-2017, 07:35 PM
3rd pull got me another Aces High Eddie lol.

BonFire
05-21-2017, 07:41 PM
My data would be tainted for info because I let my sands refill on their own, but I had about 170 before I used a sands refill. On the other hand, they're dropping a lot more than clear 3* evolution shards and souls.

Browno
05-21-2017, 07:43 PM
1st pull rainmaker (new)
2nd pull vampire hunter (new)
3rd pull pharaoh (dupe)
4th pull visions (dupe)
5th pull pharaoh (dupe)

Glad for the assasins, but man i want cyborg eddie :p

druid138
05-21-2017, 08:26 PM
By the way, I've been doing only LoL 8 for the past few hours, so I can have it on auto.

After 54 runs, I've got 345 fragments. Not too bad. Something to keep in mind when the dungeon changes to purple in a few hours.

druid138-6195

Just got 115 fragments from one refill (12 runs) on LoL 8.

druid138-6195

IZI
05-21-2017, 08:42 PM
1st - Visions
2nd - Aces High

All level 7 on auto - about 500 SoT.

Rodrigo-3281
05-21-2017, 09:20 PM
1st: Viking
2nd: Aces High (Dupe)

On my next run now.

Enti
05-21-2017, 09:31 PM
6th - dupe Aces High

At least not Pharaoh again. Where are my Cyborg/Rainmaker/VH eddies? :'(

Making one more then off to sleep

zdm-1083
05-21-2017, 10:01 PM
Double dupe Viking on second...
It is almost already midnight there, I'm bored... I earn only 3 5* and got two times Viking...

RNGJesus deserves his nails :mad:

Tridimensionale
05-21-2017, 11:03 PM
6th - dupe Aces High

At least not Pharaoh again. Where are my Cyborg/Rainmaker/VH eddies? :'(

Making one more then off to sleep

7 in a day is crazy .. you probably have a better team so the matches last less but great result anyway :D how do you do that ? :confused:

3 pull ---> Cyborg the one i wanted most
This event definitely loves me :cool: i can go to sleep now..

Enti
05-21-2017, 11:05 PM
7 in a day is crazy .. you probably have a better team so the matches last less but great result anyway :D how do you do that ? :confused:

Soldier, AoF, AGS, Prisoner. All maxed. Autoplay LoL X, even if AI makes some dumb move, it reacts immediately always so the round is eventually faster. I'll try to go with Soldier Ed on strike talismans, and replace AGS for Gunner ABB when LOL changes to assassin mode

Enti
05-21-2017, 11:14 PM
This is getting ridiculous

Viking
Pharaoh
Pharaoh
Pharaoh
Visions
Aces High
Aces High

Nekroliun
05-22-2017, 12:05 AM
Mjust got a whopping 110 fragments from a refill! Last level was fucked cuz assassins took over and troopers reset and i used kardas's nav eddie which made the lvl a walk through the park. And that gave me 15 which made my 85 into a whopping 110!

IZI
05-22-2017, 01:05 AM
3rd - dupe Visions

I'm done for now, may try one more - still hoping for a Cyborg or Samurai.

Tritium
05-22-2017, 01:18 AM
Assassin LoL stage X takes forever without a Prisoner due to all of the annoying revenges by the NoLs. I'm considering doing stage VII just for the speed difference.

JJJ428
05-22-2017, 02:10 AM
I been having decent luck just running the VII stage. Probably still averaging 50-60 shards on a refill.

druid138
05-22-2017, 03:54 AM
Assassin LoL stage X takes forever without a Prisoner due to all of the annoying revenges by the NoLs. I'm considering doing stage VII just for the speed difference.

I hate Assassin LoL post-NoL change! On my latest run, I dropped down to 7 to see how the drops compare to 8 and X. I ended up with 100 fragments! Anyone else having a similar experience? I may just stay here.

druid138-6195

Tritium
05-22-2017, 04:11 AM
I hate Assassin LoL post-NoL change! On my latest run, I dropped down to 7 to see how the drops compare to 8 and X. I ended up with 100 fragments! Anyone else having a similar experience? I may just stay here.

I'm not sure, man. I did the same thing earlier, but ended up going back to stage X because I found the drops from VII to be rather minuscule. Stage X may take longer, but I appear to get far more fragment drops from it.

Tridimensionale
05-22-2017, 05:28 AM
Assassin LoL stage X takes forever without a Prisoner due to all of the annoying revenges by the NoLs.

This.. i m doing auto on level 8 but poor droprate.. at least for me. level X with trooper prisoner is a piece of cake.. wish i had one

zdm-1083
05-22-2017, 11:22 AM
Any idea of end of this event?
Today at "reset" time?

Enti
05-22-2017, 11:23 AM
Any idea of end of this event?
Today at "reset" time?

Yes, 5pm whatever time (1am GMT)

Browno
05-22-2017, 11:32 AM
Finally got cyborg :). And another samurai that will be sacced :p

zdm-1083
05-22-2017, 01:28 PM
Yes, 5pm whatever time (1am GMT)

Ok thanks.
Looks like I will never accomplished the five I targeted to do...
If I manage 4 Eddies it will be great XD

zdm-1083
05-22-2017, 02:40 PM
It is already finished?
I do not get any fragments for a while now. :']

Edith: no I get some... After 1 refill and half on LoLX...

zamasu
05-22-2017, 05:55 PM
1st - Samurai :cool:
2nd - Vision Eddie :(
3rd - Rainmaker Eddie :cool:
4th - Samurai Really? :(

BonFire
05-22-2017, 06:28 PM
I don't have the toons necessary to work this LoL at X. Gotta work with VIII. Even then, there's too many server issues for me to really wanna continue.

zdm-1083
05-22-2017, 09:42 PM
I did not manage to go for the 5th.
Even with 1,2K package bought at the beginning of event XD
I invested 1,2K + ~500 to get:

If I use zamasu style
1st - Dupe Viking :(
2nd - Dupe Viking :mad:
3rd - Pharaoh :cool:
4th - Cyborg Eddie :cool:

This event is really cool but a bit time consuming XD

druid138
05-23-2017, 05:36 AM
Thanks again slauki for coordinating this! And, thanks everyone for reporting! I found the early reports very helpful when trying to decide how hard to push.

Below are my final stats for the event. Who knows if any future event will have similar drop rates - but, maybe this can be helpful at some point in the future.

Total Souls Earned: 6
Total Fragments Earned: 3,000 (2,990 from LoL + 10 from NF)

SoT Refills Used: 47 (some were split between LoL & Skull Quests)
Ironite Spent for SoT Refills: 1290
Total LoL Runs: 577
Ave Fragments per Run: 5.18

I split my time between Floors 7, 8, and X.

Floor 7
SoT Refills Used: 22 (some were split between LoL & SQs)
Total LoL Runs: 285
Ave Fragments per Run: 4.65

Floor 8
SoT Refills Used: 14 (some were split between LoL & SQs)
Total LoL Runs: 156
Ave Fragments per Run: 5.90

Floor X
SoT Refills Used: 11
Total LoL Runs: 136
Ave Fragments per Run: 5.48

So, no material difference between Floors 8 and X. Floor 7 did seem to give fewer fragments per run, but this was mitigated by a lower SoT cost per run. Plus, I seemed to get better SoT drop rewards from Floor 7 than from 8 and X.

In the end, 1290 Ironite for 6 5* Eddies, 750+ regular souls, ~5 rare souls, plus all the Gunner and Assassin shards I'll ever need was a pretty good deal.

I didn't have much luck with the BoS on those 6 Eddies (only 1 non-dupe, despite only having 3 of the 9 Eddies going in to the event), but the domino effects of the resulting Essence is sure to bring great things . . . I'm saving the Sacrifices for later in the week.

Thanks again Nodding Frog for a great event! With Sacrifice and Fragments in place, I have a feeling that the dam is about to break regarding these kinds of events. At least, I hope so!

druid138-6195