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Deano82
01-24-2018, 07:59 PM
Thinking of sacrificing either CR eddie or mystic eddie to help with a vortex fill. Both are unsharded
Which would you choose to lose? Or should I keep both?

druid138
01-24-2018, 08:03 PM
If they are not dupes, I would strongly recommend keeping both of them. The vortex fill will come soon, even without them. Even if the fill happens after the event ends, I'd much rather have either of those two Eddies than just a small chance at 7th Son.

Amarthir
01-24-2018, 10:34 PM
If I had to choose between the two, I'd sacrifice CR Eddie since he's easier to get back. But I'd hold out and keep both of them. Carriage Rider could hopefully get a huge buff in the next update.

Deano82
01-24-2018, 10:36 PM
Thanks guys I took your advice and kept both and settled for an exalted sacrifice...still got plenty of souls out of that including 7 makers and also 7 skill shards. Time to cash them in 👍

blade685
01-24-2018, 10:54 PM
Thanks guys I took your advice and kept both and settled for an exalted sacrifice...still got plenty of souls out of that including 7 makers and also 7 skill shards. Time to cash them in ��

keep one of all 4 and 5* eddies :o

Deano82
01-24-2018, 11:02 PM
One of the rare gunner assassin souls dropped yet another dupe prisoner 😂

druid138
01-24-2018, 11:09 PM
One of the rare gunner assassin souls dropped yet another dupe prisoner 😂

Well, there you go! You can send him to the Altar for your vortex fill, and you got to keep your two Eddies. Win win.

Yup
01-24-2018, 11:54 PM
I learned early... only sacrifice Mummy, RTH, and SOL eddies... or duplicate Eddies. Otherwise you may never see them drop again. Mummy, SOL, and RTTH drop so frequently you'll pick them up again quickly, but they don't offer the essence the others do, being 3 star Eddies.

Sponholz
01-25-2018, 05:27 AM
I'm also on the fence, but in my case, I have some 4* dupes that I got recently, and the only Eddie I can think about trowing in the mix, is my non-dupe-Visions (got a dupe and he's already been used on another sac).

So if I add Visions I would have enough for another tier VI shot, no vortex also...

I am really tempted of taking another shot on 7th...

Cheers! Ed.

druid138
01-25-2018, 05:37 AM
I'm also on the fence, but in my case, I have some 4* dupes that I got recently, and the only Eddie I can think about trowing in the mix, is my non-dupe-Visions (got a dupe and he's already been used on another sac).

So if I add Visions I would have enough for another tier VI shot, no vortex also...

I am really tempted of taking another shot on 7th...

Cheers! Ed.

That's a tricky one, man! Visions is a lot of essence in return for a pretty uncommonly used character. On the other hand, 5* Eddies are always just a tuning adjustment away from becoming dominant. And, the Maker Souls don't seem to have the greatest odds.

For what it's worth, I'm trying to have two of every Eddie at lvl100. I have some extra 5* Eddies lying around beyond that: Shaman, VHE, Eternity, Pharaoh. No way I would sacrifice them, even though I'd still be left with two of each. The Maker Soul odds just don't seem good enough. And, Gauntlet is coming - it's possible they could be useful there.

T-Man
01-25-2018, 04:16 PM
I wouldn’t sacrifice any 4-5* non dupe Eddie. Same applies to most other 4-5* toons as well. You never know when they may get a buff. Plus you aren’t guaranteed to get them again. Exceptions being Trooper and Eternity, plus the other toons you can buy. Feel free to sacrifice those if you want. Though if I shared them, I wouldn’t sacrifice them.

I constantly sacrifice Belzzie without looking back. Don’t like him, don’t use him, and I can always grab him again anyway.

JJJ428
01-25-2018, 04:37 PM
I am also wary of sacrificing some dupes now because of gauntlet. Though keep in mind I am thinking besides beta version, gauntlet is probably minimum 3-4 months off and should have plenty of opportunities to get more. I just would keep extra five star and really good 4 Star dupes for right now.

Yup
01-25-2018, 04:42 PM
Everyone seems to be banking on "the gauntlet" benefitting from duplicate characters. Has there been any indication of that?

I tend to NOT keep duplicate characters. To me all they offer is another way to burn through gold via talisman upgrades and I'd rather put skill shards on different characters, not the same characters. But that's my preference. :) I'm not a hoarder.

Mariner-1212
01-25-2018, 05:17 PM
Everyone seems to be banking on "the gauntlet" benefitting from duplicate characters. Has there been any indication of that?

I tend to NOT keep duplicate characters. To me all they offer is another way to burn through gold via talisman upgrades and I'd rather put skill shards on different characters, not the same characters. But that's my preference. :) I'm not a hoarder.

Hey Yup, I don't have time to go back and reference the instances right now but Yes, it has been indicated several times (and for several months) that we will want to hang onto our dupes for new play modes. NF also expanded the character slots dramatically (past expansions were around 10 slots give or take, this most recent one was something like 100) up to 300 total, which hints at the need to have that many slots. Lastly, they already made it clear that Gauntlet mode would only allow you to use each character once per challenge period - specifically:

"The Gauntlet is an exciting new game mode where players can battle through a series of challenges that scale in difficulty during the event period to earn exclusive character and talisman rewards. This new mode will seriously put the breadth and depth of your roster, as well as your team composition skills, to the test as you can't use the same character twice within the challenge period!"

(taken from http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?9690-Legacy-of-the-Beast-State-of-the-Nation-2018)

So you are free to interpret any way you choose, but I think most of us take all of this to be a 'recommendation' that we hang onto some of those dupes.

Yup
01-25-2018, 05:20 PM
Well shut my mouth and call me Sally!. Okay. Thanks Mariner! I guess I missed that. Well.. that will change my sacrifice strategy now! :)

Mariner-1212
01-25-2018, 06:19 PM
Well shut my mouth and call me Sally!. Okay. Thanks Mariner! I guess I missed that. Well.. that will change my sacrifice strategy now! :)

At least you've got all your Eddies now, so no real compulsion to burn up all those dupes chasing the missing toon!

Yup
01-25-2018, 06:23 PM
Yup :) I'm in a good spot to start hoarding duplicates. Hopefully it's a few months out and I'll be good :)

Dank Brew
01-25-2018, 06:37 PM
I'm also on the fence, but in my case, I have some 4* dupes that I got recently, and the only Eddie I can think about trowing in the mix, is my non-dupe-Visions (got a dupe and he's already been used on another sac).

So if I add Visions I would have enough for another tier VI shot, no vortex also...

I am really tempted of taking another shot on 7th...

Cheers! Ed.

Coming from someone who's been playing since the beginning and still NEVER GOT ONE VISIONS... Don't do it!

Amarthir
01-25-2018, 06:37 PM
I've always had a hierarchy for my toons. It's probably the reason why I have every 5* G/A except for the Assassin CotD and Eternity Eddie, but not many other ones. I've sacrificed alot of non dupe 5* toons for them. My only consolation is that the rare soul is much more common than the GA soul. At least now I can start actually keeping them since my hunt for characters is over. I'll let 7th Son Eddie come the natural way.

Dank Brew
01-25-2018, 06:38 PM
Hey Yup, I don't have time to go back and reference the instances right now but Yes, it has been indicated several times (and for several months) that we will want to hang onto our dupes for new play modes. NF also expanded the character slots dramatically (past expansions were around 10 slots give or take, this most recent one was something like 100) up to 300 total, which hints at the need to have that many slots. Lastly, they already made it clear that Gauntlet mode would only allow you to use each character once per challenge period - specifically:

"The Gauntlet is an exciting new game mode where players can battle through a series of challenges that scale in difficulty during the event period to earn exclusive character and talisman rewards. This new mode will seriously put the breadth and depth of your roster, as well as your team composition skills, to the test as you can't use the same character twice within the challenge period!"

(taken from http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?9690-Legacy-of-the-Beast-State-of-the-Nation-2018)

So you are free to interpret any way you choose, but I think most of us take all of this to be a 'recommendation' that we hang onto some of those dupes.

Wow, once I get this next vortex I'm not sacrificing anyone at all! lol

Yup
01-25-2018, 06:59 PM
At least now I can start actually keeping them since my hunt for characters is over.

That's really where I'm at now since VHE finally dropped for me earlier this week. He was the last "must get' character for me. Now I just want 15 more Astras :)

Ezz
01-25-2018, 07:30 PM
Lastly, they already made it clear that Gauntlet mode would only allow you to use each character once per challenge period - specifically:

"The Gauntlet is an exciting new game mode where players can battle through a series of challenges that scale in difficulty during the event period to earn exclusive character and talisman rewards. This new mode will seriously put the breadth and depth of your roster, as well as your team composition skills, to the test as you can't use the same character twice within the challenge period!"

(taken from http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?9690-Legacy-of-the-Beast-State-of-the-Nation-2018)

So you are free to interpret any way you choose, but I think most of us take all of this to be a 'recommendation' that we hang onto some of those dupes.

If I were a betting man I’d say you will not be able to use dupes in guantlet mode. It says characters so using 2 different VHE is still using the same character again. Also I imagine the programming needs to allow that are a big headache. Simply eliminating the character would be much easier.

That said my money is where my mouth is - I sacrifice any and every character that I already have and never look back.

blade685
01-25-2018, 07:34 PM
That's really where I'm at now since VHE finally dropped for me earlier this week. He was the last "must get' character for me. Now I just want 15 more Astras :)

and me only one of them, i will happy lol

Mariner-1212
01-25-2018, 08:50 PM
If I were a betting man I’d say you will not be able to use dupes in guantlet mode. It says characters so using 2 different VHE is still using the same character again. Also I imagine the programming needs to allow that are a big headache. Simply eliminating the character would be much easier.

That said my money is where my mouth is - I sacrifice any and every character that I already have and never look back.

Maybe. But are there 300 different characters at the moment?

And from a programming standpoint, I would think it runs off of your instance of the character, not the character itself. It would actually be just as easy to say that Ezz's Storm Eddie (assigned a collective unique ID of ezz123) was already used, but Ezz's other Storm Eddie (ID ezz456) has not been used and therefore still can be. This is indexing off of IDs, vs. characters. It is definitely possible that they just say "already used character stormeddie" and therefore no dupes, but from a programming perspective, it should be just as simple to do the other and therefore allow the users to collect many more toons.

I could be wrong (often am), but it could go either way. Too bad we can't actually make a wager because that would be fun.

Yup
01-25-2018, 08:59 PM
I could be wrong (often am), but it could go either way. Too bad we can't actually make a wager because that would be fun.

Betting on the arena with ironcoins... hmm..... "How much would you like to wager on your win?"

:D

Win and you get the +10/+12/+15 in addition to your wager amount. Lose and you lose your wager. Someone bets on beating your defense.. you get their wager amount if you r defense holds. Of course this means ironcoins would generate some rich ironcoin bastards :)

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I agree with the either or on duplicate usage..... all depends upon the database structure really. Either the character as an ID and the user just stores the ID, or the user has a unique id for that character associated with the overall character ID. No telling how they'd structure the duplicate check.

Dank Brew
01-25-2018, 09:01 PM
Betting on the arena with ironcoins... hmm..... "How much would you like to wager on your win?"

That would be sick! I'd actually compete instead of once a day for daily rewards lol

Ezz
01-25-2018, 09:08 PM
Betting on the arena with ironcoins... hmm..... "How much would you like to wager on your win?"

:D

Win and you get the +10/+12/+15 in addition to your wager amount. Lose and you lose your wager. Someone bets on beating your defense.. you get their wager amount if you r defense holds. Of course this means ironcoins would generate some rich ironcoin bastards.

Love this idea.

druid138
01-25-2018, 09:11 PM
Mariner - I agree 100% with you regarding the uncertainty to date about how "character" is defined. It seems like it could go either way. So, until more details come out, I'm erroring on the side of keeping duplicates of valuable and/or rare characters, especially now that we have 300 character slots to work with.

Mariner-1212
01-25-2018, 09:19 PM
Love this idea.

Agreed, I'd do that all day



Mariner - I agree 100% with you regarding the uncertainty to date about how "character" is defined. It seems like it could go either way. So, until more details come out, I'm erroring on the side of keeping duplicates of valuable and/or rare characters, especially now that we have 300 character slots to work with.

Yeah can't hurt to build up the roster... especially since burning up 10 good toons usually nets you a single 4* and 9 green choppers.