Lilith soul frags

[slauki]

Hey folks,

We know this idea by now:

The crucial part about this event is the droprate oft the lilith souls in addition to the HH souls.

To get a quick idea of the dropchances i would like to ask you to post the number of fragments you got for every round of play. We can also post the number of hellhound frags, but those are far less important for me personally

Example: 10 rounds --> 20 lilith fragments 25 hellhound frags

i will edit the start post and after some hours we will have a real good idea of the dropchances.

So we will know very fast if it's a reasonable investment or a fuckup. If we play all on our own it might take 24 hours or more to get a grasp of it. With the power of the swarm we might get an idea very soon, if some of you participate....

okay guys and girls good luck for your favourite lilith. Let the games begin MUHAHAHAHAHA


final update guys thanks for all the contribution, i think we have some reasonable numbers now

we have 1279 rounds and 2066 lilith frags (1,61 per run)
seems that the 50 drops have a huge impact on the rate. if you are unlucky and no 50 frags drop for you it will be a pain in the ass to farm for the frags

1198 rounds gave us 4780 HH frags (3,99 per run)

thanks to, demoon, aris, druid, metal, jason,. pepp, amarthir, jjj, hold scott, enrico palazzo, homem livre, nicko, natasar, sick, zumasu and yup for the discussion ;)


PLEASE POST ONLY LEVEL 10 RESULTS

[OdoyleRules]

50 runs ; 90 HH, 40 LF

[slauki]

10 runs ; 10 HH, 10 LF

thanks so far will add everything later, did you play level 10?

[OdoyleRules]

thanks so far will add everything later, did you play level 10?

No. I start and level 1 and then run up to 10. If I get frags on a level, I never repeat it.

[OdoyleRules]

I will update mine every 10 rounds

[slauki]

I will update mine every 10 rounds

problem is anything below level 10 will screwup the ratio, so i cannot include this, sorry
it will be too messy otherwise and too inaccurate

[OdoyleRules]

problem is anything below level 10 will screwup the ratio, so i cannot include this, sorry

Ahh, I see.

[druid138]

17 runs Floor X so far: 70 HH & 20 Lilith

Thanks for starting this thread, slauki!

[slauki]

17 runs Floor X so far: 70 HH & 20 Lilith

Thanks for starting this thread, slauki!

we both are kinda similar with these things, i knew i could count on you, thanks buddy :)

[Peppoah]

22 Runs, 65 Lilith, 75 HH. All level X. One drop of 50 Lilith fragments.

[Yup]

Started with full SOT minus 4 SQ runs (-22sot?)... then 3 refills.. all level 7 runs... got the HH.. saw 50 drop twice. Still have 120HH frag. And 70 SOT from the last refill. 80 Lillith frags (1 - 50frag lillith drop).

[slauki]

update: 250 runs on level 10 gave us 370 lilith frags (2x 50 drops) --> 1,48 per run
239 runs gave 980 HH drops --> 4,1 per run


Started with full SOT minus 4 SQ runs (-22sot?)... then 3 refills.. all level 7 runs... got the HH.. saw 50 drop twice. Still have 120HH frag. And 70 SOT from the last refill. 80 Lillith frags (1 - 50frag lillith drop).

sorry only level 10 please. everthing else would be too annoying

[Amarthir]

Well I wasn't counting my runs but I did do well over 50 so let's start with:

70 runs,

190 Hellhound Fragments
115 Lilith fragments. (1 50 frag drop)

I will update this as we go along

[Yup]

Lost count of runs.. but 4 total HH.... and 30 frags short of HALF a Lillith soul.

So 800 HH frags and 220 Lillith frags or about 3.6 HH frags for every 1 Lillith frag

Wish the Lillith frags dropped a tad more regularly, still not terrible rates.

[Yup]

sorry only level 10 please. everthing else would be too annoying

How so? Rates aren't much different. 7 is a cheaper run and faster. Running level 7 is roughly 10-15 seconds faster for practically the same returns. And at least 1 more run per SOT refill.

BTW.. Running Gunner Lillith, Navigator, Assassin Hell Hound (upgraded to 5 star), Prisoner... roughly 43 seconds on level 10, 27 sec on level 7

[slauki]

How so? Rates aren't much different. 7 is a cheaper run and faster. Running level 7 is roughly 10-15 seconds faster for practically the same returns. And at least 1 more run per SOT refill.

BTW.. Running Gunner Lillith, Navigator, Assassin Hell Hound (upgraded to 5 star), Prisoner... roughly 43 seconds on level 10, 27 sec on level 7

devs said there is a difference, and since this makes much sense i have no reason to disbelive them here. since i want to be as accurate as possible, i will only count level 10 runs...

team: SOL MUR yellow priestess prisoner 19-40 seconds on L10 average is 25secs

[Peppoah]

47 runs, 155 HH, 80 Lilith. All level X. Bad Droprate in my last 9 runs. 5 Lilith and 15 HH. I’ll keep you updated. I always run level X in these events.

[Yup]

devs said there is a difference, and since this makes much sense i have no reason to disbelive them here. since i want to be as accurate as possible, i will only count level 10 runs...

team: SOL MUR yellow priestess prisoner 19-40 seconds on L10 average is 25secs

Blind loyalty.. got it. Hope that works out for you.

I've proven that the difference between level 7 and level 10 is exceptionally minute if one exists in most cases. Check the numbers your 4.1:1.4 to my 3.6:1 -- practically the same.

I will post this though...

Since the numbers in my previous post I switched to level 10.. my numbers are better.. and better than yours it seems. Almost a 1:1 for both frags... 50 runs level X = 140 HH frags, 120 Lilith frags - I'm close to my 5th HH and still 160 frags short of a Lilith soul


Gunner Lilith
SOL
Assassin HH (5 star)
Prisoner
... about 30-35 seconds.

I have tried several Eddies -- So SOL is making better time than Navigator, Tailgunner, 7 son, Visions, Viking, VHE, Aces. I didn't try the other Eddies because they are either single hitters or not full powered with skill shards. The main slowdown here is the HH since it's a single hitter much of the time. If I swap the HH out for a multi-hitter, times improve by about 10 seconds.

[hold]

good and very informative thread:

50 runs LoL X (Warrior)

220 HH fragments (1x 50 drop)
65 Lilith fragments

[JJJ428]

Good to see I am just getting bad luck if these numbers hold my numbers should increase over the long run. Hate to skew the stats but I am at 60 runs with only 30 lilith frags and 300 HH frags

[slauki]

Blind loyalty.. got it. Hope that works out for you.

I've proven that the difference between level 7 and level 10 is exceptionally minute if one exists. Check the numbers your 4.1:1.4 to my 3.6:1 -- practically the same.

blind loyality? you could swap this with common sense...why should a cheaper level have the same drops? this would be just stupid. well but people started to belive that the world is flat recently, so i shouldn't wonder about this assumption.

you can prove it once you have enough runs. how the hell is 1,4 compared to 1,0 practicly the same? it actually seems that liliths drops are MUCH WORSE on floor 7.

[Yup]

The ratio between 4.1:1.4 is close to 3.6:1. That was my point. It's not a matter of less drops. Considering more runs are performed at level 7, then there's a balance. More runs means the odds change slightly.

But again.. read my post, I edited. My last 400SOT on level 10 seems to be more fruitful than anyone else is posting. So just lucky here? Or is it going to suddenly grind to a halt?

And the loyalty comment.. if you just believe what the devs tell you.. yeah.. blind loyalty. They have ulterior motives ya know..... Wanna buy a bridge? it's really great!

It's certainly not like I CAN't run level 10 if I want. And dude.. I'm allowed to disagree with you ya know.

[slauki]

The ratio between 4.1:1.4 is close to 3.6:1.

And the loyalty comment.. if you just believe what the devs tell you.. yeah.. blind loyalty. They have ulterior motives ya know..... Wanna buy a bridge? it's really great!

It's certainly not like I CAN't run level 10 if I want.

a deviation of 18% and 40% is nowhere near close in my world. and cannot understand your argumentation man, just makes no sense. it's against every logic.
all drops are better in the higher levels! evo runes, xp shards gold drops amount of souls, just everything. this information is a straightforward fact which is observed by many members on the forum and elsewhere. compare BNW level 8 and 10 and you will see massive differences in rune drops etc same in LOL.
so there is absolutely no reason to belive the lilith and hellhound frags will drop in same quantities even you take the lesser costs into account. this disrespects every logic and every observation we had in the last 1,5 years. so it's very likely true regardless if devs tell this or not. just use common sense...

only argument that could be made is that you can maybe play much more rounds of level 7, so that this will make up for the worse drops of everything...

[scott-5496]

LOL X

45 runs: 160 HH, 35 Lilith.

[EnricoPalazzo]

OK, my stats so far:

50 Runs on LoL X
220 Hellhound fragments
30 Lilith fragments
3 Rare Souls

[slauki]

update: 875 runs on level 10 gave us 1236 lilith frags (at least 5x 50 drops) --> 1,41 per run
796 runs gave 3160 HH drops --> 3,97 per run
thanks to aristo, demoon, druid, metal, jason,pepp, amarthir, jjj, hold, enrico palazzo, nicko, homem livre

[natasar]

My stats thus far:

40 runs LOL X
160 HH frags (incl. 0 x 50 frag drops)
115 Lilith frags (incl. 1 x 50 frag drops)
1 rare soul

[Sick]

50 runs LoL X

180 HH frags
125 Lilith frags
0 rare souls
83 souls
no 50 drops

[Ironstyle]

50 runs LoL X

180 HH frags
125 Lilith frags
0 rare souls
83 souls
no 50 drops

Pretty much exactly the same for me.

[Bradata]

How do you guys manage to count the runs, man! I only know that I'm 200 ironites shorter but have fragments for 3 hounds and 0.33 Lilith:rolleyes:

[Sick]

How do you guys manage to count the runs, man! I only know that I'm 200 ironites shorter but have fragments for 3 hounds and 0.33 Lilith:rolleyes:

I could only count the first 50, as I have used one of my troopers (the real ones) in each fight.

[R1ck]

At 1.41 fragments per run we will need 355 runs to get only 1 Lilith soul? 288 free SoT per day, 864 per 3 days is around 108 runs, so we need to spend ironite for 247 runs? Around 600 ironite? Please correct me if I miss something.

[Bradata]

At 1.41 fragments per run we will need 355 runs to get only 1 Lilith soul? 288 free SoT per day, 864 per 3 days is around 108 runs, so we need to spend ironite for 247 runs? Around 600 ironite? Please correct me if I miss something.

I think you're correct, I have 200 frags for Lilith and am less 200 ironites. I will be very pissed if I pull the same Lilith as the one I have:p

[GotN]

At 1.41 fragments per run we will need 355 runs to get only 1 Lilith soul? 288 free SoT per day, 864 per 3 days is around 108 runs, so we need to spend ironite for 247 runs? Around 600 ironite? Please correct me if I miss something.

That seems also correct to me. HH was really easy to get with right tactic. Am at 120 fragments for Lilith atm and did 5 refills with SOT. 500 fragments with 3 days to go so is possible, but only with spending much Ironit and I will not go for that and being disappointed in the end getting another sentinel Lilith.

[Ironstyle]

Keep in mind we can hold on to these Lilith frags for the next LoL event and cash them in then. No need to absolutely get a Lilith soul now (though that would be nice).

[Amarthir]

Interestingly enough I haven't seen any 50 Hellhound drops but I've had 2 50 drops for Lilith fragments. That's pretty cool.

So Lilith souls are the ones that drop Frontier Coins right? Or is it the store souls.

[Yup]

with my luck the 1 Lilith soul I can piece together will be a duplicate... if not a 3rd or 4th of the same class.

[zamasu]

Man I am in getting the worst drops ..

70 runs 120 lilith 450 HH

[natasar]

So Lilith souls are the ones that drop Frontier Coins right? Or is it the store souls.

Yep, that‘s correct. The class-specific Lilith souls in the store do not give FC.

[Ironstyle]

Man I am in getting the worst drops ..

70 runs 120 lilith 450 HH

Don't feel bad. I think I'm having worse luck.

Approximately 60 runs with 150 HH and 80 Lilith...

[druid138]

17 runs Floor X so far: 70 HH & 20 Lilith

Thanks for starting this thread, slauki!

Update: 85 runs Floor X so far: 285 HH & 90 Lilith

[slauki]

final update guys thanks for all the contribution, i think we have some reasonable numbers now

we have 1279 rounds and 2066 lilith frags (1,61 per run)
seems that the 50 drops have a huge impact on the rate. if you are unlucky and no 50 frags drop for you it will be a pain in the ass to farm for the frags

1198 rounds gave us 4780 HH frags (3,99 per run)

thanks to, demoon, aris, druid, metal, jason,. pepp, amarthir, jjj, hold scott, enrico palazzo, homem livre, nicko, natasar, sick, zumasu and yup for the discussion ;)

[slauki]

final conclusion:

1,6 seems to be the ratio for level 10. i like to be conservative so i will use 1,5 as measure for level 10.
so let's do some math:

500 frags / 1,5 = 333 rounds LOL are needed for a lilith soul. assuming one refill gives you 11 rounds of play means you need 30 full refills for a lilith. if we assume 3 ironite will drop per refill we need 30*27 ironite to get a lilith --> means 810 ironite. you have to play the whole day. you will get 6,5-7 hellhounds too and a lot of normal souls and evo material.

a hell lot of work is needed to get a lilith, but i think it's reasonable and doable in the long term.

i farmed hard the whole day and finally got a lilith soul just to see, that it contains the only lilith i already have. in this case you wanna shoot yourself, but well, that's part of this game as we all know :P

[Bradata]

... contains the only lilith i already have. in this case you wanna shoot yourself, but well, that's part of this game as we all know :P

With my luck I get the feeling that I'll be next to join your Dupe club.

[Peppoah]

Thanks for your effort, Slauki. My personal droprate and calculation leads me to around 400 runs. It can’t happen to me to get a dupe Lilith as I don’t have one, yet.�� The best thing I got so far from this event is Edward The Great from a rare soul. I got the rare soul from sacrificing 10 two stars I got from LOL. I was missing him, so it was a fair deal. ��

[Amarthir]

Plus all the character souls that the event is based on is fodder for the next sacrifice event. So there's alot of wins to getting at least 1 Lilith soul per event.

[Yup]

My final tally.


1200 HH frags - 500 Lilith frags

(took me 2 full SOT refills to get those last 10 Lilith frags.. and I literally got the last 5 frags on the last run of the second refill.... and.. I got my 4th Gunner Lilith [need Warrior or Sentinel].... so frustrating....)

[slauki]

Thanks for your effort, Slauki. My personal droprate and calculation leads me to around 400 runs. It can’t happen to me to get a dupe Lilith as I don’t have one, yet.�� The best thing I got so far from this event is Edward The Great from a rare soul. I got the rare soul from sacrificing 10 two stars I got from LOL. I was missing him, so it was a fair deal. ��

yw man, and congrats to edward \m/. really fortunate not to have a lilith, i wish i woul dhave saved my 700 frontier coins a bit longer...but well easy to be smart in hindsight :p



Plus all the character souls that the event is based on is fodder for the next sacrifice event. So there's alot of wins to getting at least 1 Lilith soul per event.

yeah and at least the liliths are farmable in the longterm. that's actually a very nice development overall. better than hoping for lucky pulls from rare souls. i like this approach a lot!

[hold]

yeah and at least the liliths are farmable in the longterm. that's actually a very nice development overall. better than hoping for lucky pulls from rare souls. i like this approach a lot!

While those Lilith fragments are a nice extra - they don't solve the general problems this game is having. I like it and it makes those particular events better.

But I'm also far from hailing the devs ... A tiny improvement is still an improvement and while enjoying this positive moment we also shouldn't turn a blind eye on the bigger picture. There is still a mountain to climb ... my 2 cent ... one swallow doesn't make a summer!

btw: I always liked those events ... at least there is an almost guaranteed reward for the grind (you must be super unlucky not to get anything out of it with a fair amount of refills)

[slauki]

While those Lilith fragments are a nice extra - they don't solve the general problems this game is having. I like it and it makes those particular events better.

But I'm also far from hailing the devs ... A tiny improvement is still an improvement and while enjoying this positive moment we also shouldn't turn a blind eye on the bigger picture. There is still a mountain to climb ... my 2 cent ... one swallow doesn't make a summer!

btw: I always liked those events ... at least there is an almost guaranteed reward for the grind (you must be super unlucky not to get anything out of it with a fair amount of refills)

yeah i agree it's a long way to go, and the main issues are still there. but this event proves one thing for me: it's not all bad so there is still some hope for this game. i really hope they can turn this around, and i will do my best to help them with this. we can just continue with our constant feedback and hope it will lead to some massive improvements, which are definetly needed...

[Sick]

Today’s 50 LOL X fights only gave 55 Lilith frags.

[natasar]

Same here. Much lower drop rate than yesterday.

[slauki]

as said guys, if no 50 frags drop you are fucked, this is what makes or breaks you. so 50/55 is not unexpected...if there would be one 50 drop you would have an way above average day...seems all very normal to me

[hold]

as said guys, if no 50 frags drop you are fucked, this is what makes or breaks you. so 50/55 is not unexpected...if there would be one 50 drop you would have an way above average day...seems all very normal to me

It's not just that ... I can confirm as well that the drop rate is much worse than yesterday. Almost finished my 50 runs today and got only 20 additional Lilith soul fragments.

So the whole thing is rigged as f*ck again. It is an extra - OK. But they lured you in with a day of good drops and now make you spending more for refills because you hope to get enough fragments for 1 Lilith soul.

I take most of the positive things back I said yesterday ... bloody cheaters - really ... It will take a century to get a Lilith soul that way ... useless

[GotN]

Same here. Much lower drop rate than yesterday.

Can absolutely confirm this. 40 runs on LOL X now and only 25 fragments. Am at 220 now and great playing time for this event is over for me. Even if I could play like first half of this event, it wouldn’t give me 500 fragments. And imo I played A LOT (too much tbh). Played all SOT without waste and made about 10 refills. Also no 50 drop here (1 for HH).
Nevertheless great event, will go for a third HH and save to up for the next sacrifice event. Not to forget 150 free ironit (anybody else got 1 SOT with that? haha funny). Thanks for all that NF!

[slauki]

don't wanna argue guys but all i say is beware of small samples...40-50 runs is literary nothing, and the variance is huge there. that's why we need large numbers to estimate real chances...even our 1000+ numbers are not really that big of a sample, but enough to get an idea of the drops.
not sure if they can adjust droprates during an event. seems unlikely to me, even it would make sense from a psychological point of view. my drops seems kinda normal, but i cannot tell exactly, because i have stopped writing them down...

[hold]

not sure if they can adjust droprates during an event. seems unlikely to me...

From a programmer's point of view that is basically changing 1 parameter.

As the client seems to communicate with the server before every drop - changing drop rates on the fly shouldn't be a issue at all.

[GotN]

don't wanna argue guys

Far from it man ;) just seems like some of us have even less luck than yesterday. But as these fragments will not be useless like all others from any event so far, I’m not angry that I will not reach 500 :D

[zamasu]

From a programmer's point of view that is basically changing 1 parameter.

As the client seems to communicate with the server before every drop - changing drop rates on the fly shouldn't be a issue at all.

True that, but by the way the game works (and as far as I know) it will need new data to be downloaded. I don't think the can change the droprate in the middle of the game without pushing a new data update

[hold]

True that, but by the way the game works (and as far as I know) it will need new data to be downloaded. I don't think the can change the droprate in the middle of the game without pushing a new data update

I think that is not the case anymore. The devs spoke about server side updates in the past or something similar. If that is the case (and it would make a lot of sense from the dev's point of view) they can adjust things on the fly.

We can't of course proof it but it smells that basically the luck of quite a few people changed over night ...

[Mariner-1212]

I think that is not the case anymore. The devs spoke about server side updates in the past or something similar. If that is the case (and it would make a lot of sense from the dev's point of view) they can adjust things on the fly.

We can't of course proof it but it smells that basically the luck of quite a few people changed over night ...

It's not for a few people, and it's not coincidence. Drop rates are down dramatically from yesterday. Not sure about server side changes needed for this, because the drop rates do this every event on the middle days. There should be an uptick in the Noon CST hour (around 12:25 CST... 3 hours from now) on level X if it follows the pattern of the past events, then it will taper off again. Then on the last day, there will be more of a surge but still not like the first day.

[Bradata]

Well, I see I am not the only one noticing the lower drop rates of Lilith frags, there is really something smelly here!

[scott-5496]

I did get my first 50 Lillith drop today and I noticed a lot more rare souls today too - got a couple yesterday and 5 today and only done a single refill today. Got my second HH today and have 35 for the next one. I have 175 Lillith and I think i am on my fifth refill over all days (on top of my daily play to do troopers on LOL X).

[blade685]

I did get my first 50 Lillith drop today and I noticed a lot more rare souls today too - got a couple yesterday and 5 today and only done a single refill today. Got my second HH today and have 35 for the next one. I have 175 Lillith and I think i am on my fifth refill over all days (on top of my daily play to do troopers on LOL X).

0 X 50 for me for lillith or HH event....and sacrifice is so bad with that ridiculous gold event...100 level 1-2 characters and 0 sand of time or arena.....i never see so shit rate i think since the beginning...

[Sick]

For sure my experience is not a scientific approach at all, but yesterday I managed to get 320 Lilith frags. I stopped because my target was to get 1.000 in three days. Today I received 60 frags so far. I had no 50 drops on both days.
As I have my mobile next to my computer while working and just pressing the replay button, I think that I roughly did the same amount of fights.

[Stormseye]

Done over 120 LOL runs abut 40 on X and rest on VII. Not single x50 Lilith...so far 450HH and 65 Lilith...no Lilith so far on Magus runs.

Though some believe drop rates are higher on X, all save 10 Lilith were gotten on VII.

On the a side note, I used the extra Hellhound along with some extra 5* to fill my vortex, ended up getting about 15 Skill Shard, 8 Rare Gunner/Assassin Souls, of which I finally got GCOTD!! (yay) and 5millon gold.

[T-Man]

Lilith drops completely dried up for me too until a few drops recently.

First evening of the event, I had a 50 Lilith frag drop in lv 7. I had just as good a drop rates as you guys playing lv 10. Then it completely stopped. I switched back and forth from 7 to level 10 without much luck.

3 refill on level 10 this morning, and only a few small drops. 2 plus HHs. Not sure I’ll continue the grind. It’s not
Paying off.

[Yup]

I'm getting better Lilith drops on Magus... now sitting at 130 Lilith frags/90HH frags after about 20 runs.

[slauki]

okay interesting to hear the impressions...next time we should take the drops day by day for the entire event to test this...CAN YOU HEAR ME NF, we will test is during the WHOLE F'N event period next time :D

[Askora]

My numbers seemed a little skewed, but balanced out. Had two 50 drops fairly early in warrior, so ended up day one with 325 frags. Day two is so far 275 frags and still have a refill to play through to balance it out. Seems relatively close to me. 6 event characters to 1 Lilith soul is the ratio I have so far.

[Yup]

. 6 event characters to 1 Lilith soul is the ratio I have so far.

That's pretty much what I'm seeing.

[T-Man]

Got a few more drops recently, including a 50 playing lv 10. Maybe it’s picking back up? I Don’t see myself hitting 500 during this event, but I should wind up with 4-5 HH.

[R1ck]

Today started missing 45 fragments for my only Lilith I will chase in this event, used my free SoT and one refill to get 95 fragments, one 50 included when had 5 left to complete 500. Fortunately got a new Lilith but the worst of all of them IMO, sentinel one. Still missing more than 100 fragments to complete my 5th HH.
Really sick of grind, will not complete it.

[scott-5496]

So far up to now I have three HHs in the bag (105/200 for the fourth one) and only 90 away from first Lillith soul. So it looks like my rates have varied to others a bit as others have had 6 or 7 HHs and got the Lillith soul - I did get a single 50 drop in Lilliths, none so far for HH.

[hold]

Stück at 410 Lilith ... 3 refills and only 15 fragments ... Fuck that suit now - having a beer with my friends ...

Not just bored of the grind but really annoyed and tired of it.

In all honesty I'm not fond of getting a Lilith or not because I have no intention to play PvP going up against overpowered teams.

We the newest updates and additions the slot machine got even less interesting and more annoying.

[Reeb99]

I gave up after I got the dog. It isn't worth grinding that much to get mostly XP shards. I need runes way more than shards.

[Yup]

I need runes way more than shards.

Is it just me or doesn't everyone??? There are far too few rune drops... specifically the colorless evo runes.

[slauki]

Is it just me or doesn't everyone??? There are far too few rune drops... specifically the colorless evo runes.

you can farm those in the normal cosmos, that's why they reduced the droprate of those in the lol. they start to drop in battlefield madness and above

[Yup]

Yeah but I can farm the cosmos for 3 days and have enough to upgrade MAYBE 3 talismans. (Tried AMOLAD and Circle of Fire Underworld)

Farming BNW lower levels is a bit better. But really.. they all seem to drop too rarely.

The best I've seen is 15, 2 star colorless evo runes in one drop from a skull quest.

Ignoring Relics, I don't need anything else.. other than a couple Liliths and the Alliance General. My main focus is talisman upgrades.. just so slow going overall. Yeah I could BUY them from the store.. but they are too pricey there.

[Seventhson6669]

Luckily, they are gonna offer more Lilith frag drops in future events. Good because the drop rates are pretty poor

[MoonShadow]

I didn't have the time and will to do a heluva grinding, so I managed to gather only the round sum of 300 lilith frags, as the drops were horrible the last two days of the event. I really hope for another event that will have a chance for dropping those, and soon as possible, as I have gathered the frontier coins needed for my first lilith, but I'm afraid to claim one now and maybe got the same after opening randomly the lilith soul.... brrrrrrrrrr