Gauntlet speculation

[MrFreeze]

While we continue to wait for this new feature, I’m curious to hear what some of you might think it’ll be. We haven’t gotten much information from NF about it. It’ll be another source of iron coins is about all I know. Which makes me think it’ll be more like pvp than pve.

If that’s the case, I’m thinking it might be something like, your team of four vs a continuous wave of opponent teams with no reset in between. I hope I’m wrong because that doesn’t sound too fun. I like tower events were you get to use your whole roster to progress up the levels.

But I have no idea what they’re planning. Any thoughts?

[Draven]

The impression that I got was the ladder. Your entire roster is available, though each character can only be used once.

[slauki]

i just started to play marvel strike force, and there is something similar like gauntlet i belive. you play vs a defense of another player and you can use your char only once every 6 hours. if you want to use him sooner, you have to pay ingame currancy. have just played one match since i have only a handfull of chars there, but i'm pretty sure gauntlet will be something like that.

this ladder challenge will be silent planet i belive... check the state of the nation post

"More playable content, in the form of Gauntlet and Silent Planet, is also being developed. The Gauntlet is an exciting new game mode where players can battle through a series of challenges that scale in difficulty during the event period to earn exclusive character and talisman rewards. This new mode will seriously put the breadth and depth of your roster, as well as your team composition skills, to the test as you can't use the same character twice within the challenge period!

Players looking for even greater challenges can test their mettle on the mysterious Silent Planet. Battle your way up a monthly resetting tower with 100 quests and face off against 2 new and fantastic Mega Bosses. Earn highly valuable rewards as well as exclusive character and talisman content."
http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?9690-Legacy-of-the-Beast-State-of-the-Nation-2018&highlight=state+nation

[Sick]

What I would like to know is, do dupes count as one character or not. In other words, does it make sense to collect dupes to prepare for Gauntlet?

[slauki]

What I would like to know is, do dupes count as one character or not. In other words, does it make sense to collect dupes to prepare for Gauntlet?

yep this question is crucial, and it should be doable to answer that from the side of the devs. not sure if they don't know yet or if they don't want to answer it. one sentence would be enough....

[scott-5496]

I am sure I remember somewhere a dev saying that having dupes would serve a purpose somewhere down the road - this was a while back, last year maybe but I am sure I remember one of them saying something along these lines.

EDIT: Just checked the discussion thread on the state of the nation and it was just community speculation their too but it kind of makes sense that if you have strong supes you can use them - guess we will see sometime down the road!

[Sick]

Honestly, I don't like the idea to use my Skill Shards on dupes.

[MrFreeze]

Thanks Slauki. Not sure how I missed that one, but it sounds like both will be “tower” like features. Cool, I’m ready for something new, and it’ll be nice to use some of these characters that have been on the bench for so long.

Scott, are you thinking about that post from Lamia back at the beginning? It was the one where people were asking about keeping dupe eddies. If so, I think he/she was referring to sacrifice, but I could be wrong.

[slauki]

Thanks Slauki. Not sure how I missed that one, but it sounds like both will be “tower” like features. Cool, I’m ready for something new, and it’ll be nice to use some of these characters that have been on the bench for so long.

Scott, are you thinking about that post from Lamia back at the beginning? It was the one where people were asking about keeping dupe eddies. If so, I think he/she was referring to sacrifice, but I could be wrong.

yw man...was also thinking about sacrifice, cannot remember something else...

[T-Man]

I’ve been saving some of the better dupes because of this, but I’d prefer not to. Taking up a lot of space even with the expansion to 300. I do have a nice surplus of skill shards but rather not use them on the dupes. At least not on the Eddies that take so many.

Wish the Devs would give us the word on this.

Looking forward to the new content!

[Sparton_LOTB]

yep this question is crucial, and it should be doable to answer that from the side of the devs. not sure if they don't know yet or if they don't want to answer it. one sentence would be enough....

We've answered that in the past, and it still basically boils down to "we aren't sure yet". We're still working on refining the feature and seeing if duplicate characters being not allowed makes sense for it.

If you want to be safe, you shouldn't delete characters you may want to use in future game modes, but it's not a sure thing one way or another.

[slauki]

We've answered that in the past, and it still basically boils down to "we aren't sure yet". We're still working on refining the feature and seeing if duplicate characters being not allowed makes sense for it.

If you want to be safe, you shouldn't delete characters you may want to use in future game modes, but it's not a sure thing one way or another.

thanks man, must have forgotten this, getting old while waiting for new content as it seems :D :D :D pointless to ask about an ETA i guess,if these basic concepts are still unclear?

[Yup]

I started storing toons... had most eddies duplicated.... was working on others.. then it dawned on me...

There's no telling when this mode may be released or how it will work. I may regret sacrificing all my dupes if it's released next month.... but it also may be several months before the new mode is available. Should I find I want to duplicate character to work through this new mode, that will merely spark a new desire to collect more. So why horde now? Better off to fill the vortex, collect skill shards and fully power every single Eddie or toon I can. I've got about 5 -8 Eddies that need more skill shards and maybe 6 regular characters. Maybe then I'll start collecting duplicates.

[Sparton_LOTB]

pointless to ask about an ETA i guess,if these basic concepts are still unclear?

No ETA quite yet, yeah. We're still working out details like that before we feel it's at a good enough place to do a beta.

[T-Man]

We've answered that in the past, and it still basically boils down to "we aren't sure yet". We're still working on refining the feature and seeing if duplicate characters being not allowed makes sense for it.

If you want to be safe, you shouldn't delete characters you may want to use in future game modes, but it's not a sure thing one way or another.

Dang it! I'll continue to save my dupes. Thanks for jumping in. When is the next sacrifice event? :D

[T-Man]

I started storing toons... had most eddies duplicated.... was working on others.. then it dawned on me...

There's no telling when this mode may be released or how it will work. I may regret sacrificing all my dupes if it's released next month.... but it also may be several months before the new mode is available. Should I find I want to duplicate character to work through this new mode, that will merely spark a new desire to collect more. So why horde now? Better off to fill the vortex, collect skill shards and fully power every single Eddie or toon I can. I've got about 5 -8 Eddies that need more skill shards and maybe 6 regular characters. Maybe then I'll start collecting duplicates.

Yes, no telling when. I think that is a good plan depending what you are chasing right now.
For me, there are only 3 toons I'm chasing outside of the 3 Liliths I'm missing. Can purchase another, but don't really feel need at the moment. I'm loaded with skill shards, so I'm good there.
I'm just holding on to the great, game changing dupes for now.

[Sag7272]

Honestly hope you can't bring in dupes, don't know how it'll work but otherwise it'll end up in inventory full of dupes & most char still.... Benched as it already is :/

[Coletrain]

Honestly hope you can't bring in dupes, don't know how it'll work but otherwise it'll end up in inventory full of dupes & most char still.... Benched as it already is :/

I agree as well, I think it would be a bit boring to be able to use dupes. Make me use my full roster of toons, encourage me to continue to raise different toons to 100. Used all your native 4 & 5 star toons? Welp, you have to make it to the end using demon spawn and possessed rifle.

On the other hand, I say that as an end-game player with a beefy roster. How do you make it fair for the early game player who could only make their way through the gauntlet using dupe 3* toons?

The answer that comes to mind right away is two-part. One, have several difficulty levels to appeal to early, mid, and end-game players. Two, structure the rewards in a way to reward the use of non-dupes the whole way through. That way you can make it through with dupes, but rewards could be greater if you use non-dupes the whole way through.

[PerthEddie]

The Walking Dead No Man's Land which I play have a feature called The Distance. With that you have 21 levels that got progressively harder. Apparently the last levels are insanely difficult. There are also 2 difficulty levels - Normal and Hard. I can't imagine how difficult the last levels of hard mode are!! Anyway, all your roster is available to use at the beginning. If you take a few hits then you don't reheal at the end of that level. So, start at L1 with 100 health but take 40 damage and you start L2 with 60 health. However, once 1 character dies then it can't be used any longer. The secret is to use your slightly weaker characters in the early levels and then bring in your big guns later on.

I have suspected for a while that Gauntlet might work on a similar scale with regards to the progression. I don't think Gauntlet could work the same way as The Distance though in regard to chars not healing at the end of a level

[Amarthir]

Since we're talking about similar modes in other games, Marvel Future Fight has "Shadowland" where you pick a couple characters to finish a certain floor. You're only able to choose specific types of characters for a specific floor which basically gives you incentive to rank up someone you normally wouldn't use. Since you're not allowed to use someone on more than one floor, you have to have a pretty developed roster. The highest floor I've completed so far is, I think, 9 out of like 25 or 30 floors.

I'm looking forward to the Gauntlet because I like the challenge of having to use someone you aren't used to using. If I had to choose between stockpiling dupes and only being allowed to choose one character, I'm a little torn because only choosing one character would bring more challenge to the table, but for a new player, it would be a pretty steep stopping point for them.

[T-Man]

Honestly hope you can't bring in dupes, don't know how it'll work but otherwise it'll end up in inventory full of dupes & most char still.... Benched as it already is :/

Completely agree, no dupes. Making those benched toons useful could be interesting.

[slauki]

agree with the anti dupe party. would be stupid to use 3 different pharaohs, if you think about it. encourage us to pimp the rifles, the meatheads and stuff. this would be really cool and would help the game in total.

but i fear this feature might still be faaaaaaaar away....

[RobG-9641]

I’m stocking some 4 star level dupes just in case. Ones that are fun to farm with. Worst case I will have sacrifice fodder. I do think Eddie should be reusable for few turns and regular toons once per level. I’m ok with idea of duplicates because 2-3 Clairvoyant over different levels my be of benefit. But if for example it’s mandatory to use only Assassin character on a level and I don’t have enough or strong ones available, then I’m out of luck. So there’s already strategies forming and it doesn’t exist yet!

[Sag7272]

Personally think that although the "dupe" argument for newer players is good but it is not founded...

As far as my understanding goes it's an endgame players mode thing, there's a lot of other things to do in game if you have a small undevelopped rooster than going gauntlet... Farming BNW, LoL or take on PvP are only examples that help develop a solid rooster that will help getting there after...

Would be such a pity to see multiple copies of same teams over & over in every rooster around when there's so many characters available..
Like in top of PvP with cloning factory going full throttle instead of going creative...

But again.. That may just be my endgame little bored point of view.. & Needless to say it's pure speculation for now..

[Yup]

Like in top of PvP with cloning factory going full throttle instead of going creative...


It's really kind of hilarious. I refuse to replicate the Visions, Pharaoh dog, Mayan.. just due to how many have. It's really really unfun to constantly battle essentially the same team over and over and over.

[Chaosego888]

I'm voting for duplicates not being allowed to be used in gauntlet and glad to see several others feel the same. It defeats the purpose of the whole concept. I don't plan on saving any for it. If it becomes necessary, It's not like it's hard to pull the same characters you already have anyway. As far as the balancing between new and old players, I don't even think it matters considering the rosters some of the newer players have. I have a friend that started playing awhile back and after 3 weeks he had a roster that looked similar to what it took me 6 months to build. When Sacrifice was implemented, It drastically sped up the team building process.

[T-Man]

There is a team using Trooper Eddie that is pretty cool and challenging.

The worse toon to go against is a reliced (is that’s word lol) up Warrior Lilith with a certain set up. Repeated turns are just nasty. :rolleyes:

[Warlord]

No Dupes make us use all toons..

Only reason i'm still playing is getting the last 9 toons I'm missing....

The events are fun cause uselly new toon, but nothing new has the game being a drag..

[edsel]

There is a team using Trooper Eddie that is pretty cool and challenging.

The worse toon to go against is a reliced (is that’s word lol) up Warrior Lilith with a certain set up. Repeated turns are just nasty. :rolleyes:

yes when that has Echo talisman is a pain- have found using the Lady Azov with the new talisman and having perfect hit status lit up from desert guardian gunner can give the class advantage blue over red with one hit destruction to this Warrior PVP menace- HUGE damage numbers

[Alvorada]

We've answered that in the past, and it still basically boils down to "we aren't sure yet". We're still working on refining the feature and seeing if duplicate characters being not allowed makes sense for it.

If you want to be safe, you shouldn't delete characters you may want to use in future game modes, but it's not a sure thing one way or another.

So almost two months later: we won't get gauntlet soon, but the devs already have the answer:

dupes will be allow at gauntlet or no?

[Alvorada]

No answer to my question?

[Zerynx]

Kaz recently answered this over here:
http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10123-May-8th-2018-Update-Discussion&p=72655#post72655

[Lord-7618]

No dupes for sure. We need them if we look for the higher tiers (worthy rewards) in sacrifice events. And that will revalue the weaker toons, too.

[Alvorada]

Kaz recently answered this over here:
http://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/showthread.php?10123-May-8th-2018-Update-Discussion&p=72655#post72655

thanks!

Seems a good balance, probably the best call.

[MetalKing]

I hope that we can make our teams around themes such as all dogs, all soldiers, etc (of course Eddie is different). It would be really cool if they would make the beginning of the match animation where the challenging Eddie would go up to the opposing Eddie and slap it with a glove. Thus-the gauntlet.