Frontier Coin Shop Update - Alexander Eddie Debut!

Alexander the Great...Became a legend ‘mongst mortal men.

New Character: Alexander Eddie!

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First he conquered the world, now Alexander Eddie is here to conquer Legacy of the Beast. He is a high health, high damage Warrior capable of controlling and dominating his targets with ease. Alexander Eddie is also the very first Eddie to feature a powerful Passive instead of a Fury skill that makes him completely Immune to all Negative Effects! His skills also:

• Grant Armor Penetration to all allies
• Taunt all enemies forcing them to attack his Thorn Shields while he heals from the damage
• Grant himself increased MAX HP for the duration of the fight while also lowering the ATK and MAGIC of enemies
• Removes Invincibility and Immunity effects, and gains Perfect Immunity if an effect is successfully removed

Alexander Eddie is a 5 star Warrior now permanently available in the Frontier Coin Shop for 2,500 Frontier Coins. Check out more on Alexander Eddie in his Character Discussions forum post.

Holy Jesus, 2,500 frontier coins??? Does he also grant my account perfect God RNG for life? That price is horrific. Also, I don't see anywhere in his skill set about him having increased max health and lowering an opponent's attack and magic stats.

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Originally Posted by Amarthir

Holy Jesus, 2,500 frontier coins??? Does he also grant my account perfect God RNG for life? That price is horrific. Also, I don't see anywhere in his skill set about him having increased max health and lowering an opponent's attack and magic stats.

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He's only $200, just have to buy the mythical soul packs. It's very quickly becoming pay to play or you'll always be behind the meta.

"and we sell mythical souls in the store and that by buying them will be rewarded with 1250 frontier coins, so with two purchases they already have their new eddie"
What happened NF? it seems that every time you need more money ...

"If they don't want to buy him for $200, they'll eventually get him in about 2 years." "Hope we're still around then! Ha ha ha!!"

His name strikes fear into hearts of men?

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Originally Posted by Reeb99

His name strikes fear into hearts of men?

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His name strikes fear into the hearts of the f2p lmao

His name struck fear into wallets of men... WTF! with the price of the mythical souls.

Will be easy to spot the big spenders with Alexander Eddie. What’s the expression? A fool and their money are soon parted... how desperate someone must be if they drop $200 to have bragging rights for being one of the first to have him.

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Originally Posted by Amarthir

I don't see anywhere in his skill set about him having increased max health and lowering an opponent's attack and magic stats.

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The post has been updated to fix the typo with that skill. Sorry about that.

-Kaz

Dropping a $200 eddie while we continue to wait for gauntlet, night city, silent planet, the guilds that we’re mentioned, raids and such that go along with guilds, etc...(with no word of what might be holding everything up) is kind of a slap in the face in my opinion.

I never thought I’d do more than take a short break from this game at times, but it’s getting stupid.

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Originally Posted by MrFreeze

Dropping a $200 eddie while we continue to wait for gauntlet, night city, silent planet, the guilds that we’re mentioned, raids and such that go along with guilds, etc...(with no word of what might be holding everything up) is kind of a slap in the face in my opinion.

I never thought I’d do more than take a short break from this game at times, but it’s getting stupid.

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Agree. This is a bad move, but there will be no damage control on this one, again. Project Manager?

Funniest thing is, I didn't see him mentioned in the game pop-up or on their fb page. Just throw him in there and try to get people to spend more money with no new content. Maybe they're closing the doors when the tour starts.

An all single target hitter .. no thanks..

WAY overpriced.

What are the base stats? 6000HP?? 200 ATK?

Seriously I can't understand the 2500 frontier coins price ? With 1 eternal soul and 1 trooper soul per month, it needs more than 1 year for have the 2500 frontier coins (maybe a little less with the lilith souls). Is there another way yo get frontier coins ?

I think this may be the straw which breaks this camel. Just ridiculous pricing for a clearly underpowered character.... and still no new playable content.


.... and yeah.. surprised the Beast isn't beside him for 50000FC or something. Oh wait.. that's for next month....

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Originally Posted by Askora

Funniest thing is, I didn't see him mentioned in the game pop-up or on their fb page. Just throw him in there and try to get people to spend more money with no new content. Maybe they're closing the doors when the tour starts.

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is the same strategy as with the beast: "spend your money now, the beast is only for a limited time and you will not see it for a long time" then when everyone lost their heads and spent money "the beast will return and be guaranteed everybody".
NF is using such dirty and disrespectful strategies that it seems like a damn joke.

For me, the issue is simply transparency. When the Liliths came out, lots of players with a ton of FCs used them for Liliths, not knowing that LoL fragment events would make her pretty attainable soon after.

Now, we have a guaranteed exclusive Eddie for FCs. I think this is actually a very cool idea and in line with what a lot of players have been asking for.

The issue is the cost, especially in light of the Lilith experience. Spending such a large amount of FCs (which are the slowest accumulating resource in the game) without having any idea of what they may be needed for down the road seems crazy, except for players willing to spend big $.

My vote is to keep Alexander in the FC Store, make him closer to 1000 FCs, and give players more detailed advance notice about future resource requirements.

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Originally Posted by druid138

My vote is to keep Alexander in the FC Store, make him closer to 1000 FCs, and give players more detailed advance notice about future resource requirements.

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they probably reduce the price, when enough people have spent enough money...

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Originally Posted by Amarthir

His name strikes fear into the hearts of the f2p lmao

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Heh, no kidding. :-)

Frontier coins can be obtained free, think long term goals guys

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Originally Posted by druid138

For me, the issue is simply transparency. When the Liliths came out, lots of players with a ton of FCs used them for Liliths, not knowing that LoL fragment events would make her pretty attainable soon after.

Now, we have a guaranteed exclusive Eddie for FCs. I think this is actually a very cool idea and in line with what a lot of players have been asking for.

The issue is the cost, especially in light of the Lilith experience. Spending such a large amount of FCs (which are the slowest accumulating resource in the game) without having any idea of what they may be needed for down the road seems crazy, except for players willing to spend big $.

My vote is to keep Alexander in the FC Store, make him closer to 1000 FCs, and give players more detailed advance notice about future resource requirements.

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Great post!

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Originally Posted by Nifelheim

Frontier coins can be obtained free, think long term goals guys

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Think long term goals guys.. think very very very VEEERY long term goals guys.

For 1 Alexander Eddie, we can get 3 Mythical Souls, or 8 trooper souls.

I hope this is an indication that we’ll soon see new content where these coins are easier to obtain.

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Originally Posted by Amarthir

Think long term goals guys.. think very very very VEEERY long term goals guys.

For 1 Alexander Eddie, we can get 3 Mythical Souls, or 8 trooper souls.

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If the game is still around, and if anyone is still playing at that point.

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Originally Posted by druid138

For me, the issue is simply transparency. When the Liliths came out, lots of players with a ton of FCs used them for Liliths, not knowing that LoL fragment events would make her pretty attainable soon after.

Now, we have a guaranteed exclusive Eddie for FCs. I think this is actually a very cool idea and in line with what a lot of players have been asking for.

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See, I respect everyone's concerns and complaints, but this just makes it seem like we can't win.

• Lilith: We're transparent about being able to get the character later via FC coins and fragment grinding? Totally evil.
• The Beast: We indicate the character won't be available for a while at a bare minimum and not have it available soon after for FC coins or fragment grinding? Still evil.
• Alexander Eddie: Add a new, long term goal that people can work towards while providing people an option to short cut it without everyone just getting that long term goal for free immediately? Straight evil.

Like, I can't look at any of the above approaches and see how we could have handled Alexander Eddie better (without making him basically a joke to get for our most engaged players, which I'll touch on in the other half of my post).

The worst part is that if we were any more transparent and then anything changed (such as reconsidering Lilith drop rate, FC prices, or future availability), people would still call us evil.

Legacy of the Beast is a live game that is constantly evolving. We do our best to help make players a part of that journey and to provide clarity for that, but the roadmap (clearly) isn't set in stone. Things change, new additions are sometimes added at the last minute, and sometimes things we hope come out by a certain time end up slipping.

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Originally Posted by druid138

The issue is the cost, especially in light of the Lilith experience. Spending such a large amount of FCs (which are the slowest accumulating resource in the game) without having any idea of what they may be needed for down the road seems crazy, except for players willing to spend big $.

My vote is to keep Alexander in the FC Store, make him closer to 1000 FCs, and give players more detailed advance notice about future resource requirements.

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There are many people that still have north of 1000 Frontier Coins, and I'm pretty sure anyone who's active enough to be on top of collecting Trooper, Eternity, and Lilith souls can easily see that they can get Alexander Eddie well short of the 12 months that someone else theorized (who even also theorized that they weren't accounting for Lilith Souls... of which many people have collected so many they already have all 5...). And all of that assumes no Frontier Coins earned from events, future features, etc.

And while I understand wanting to be able to get long term goals immediately... if you could without any real effort, they wouldn't be long term goals, and that defeats the point of us adding them as such. Like, if you wanted to add a cool Eddie as a great long term reward for amassing Frontier Coins, and you wanted it to take longer than just 2-3 months to get... what would you realistically price it at?

Well, good answer Sparton. I guess the complaints would be a lot less, if the $200 deal would not be available. It seems to be unfair that most will work long term on this char, while a few can just buy it immediately.

I was thinking about the price of those mythical soul packs. Wouldn't it be advantageous to you to have the price at say £25 and have 1000 people (probably way more) buy it than have a bare minimum (say 100 people) buying them at 100 bucks?!

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

See, I respect everyone's concerns and complaints, but this just makes it seem like we can't win.

• Lilith: We're transparent about being able to get the character later via FC coins and fragment grinding? Totally evil.
• The Beast: We indicate the character won't be available for a while at a bare minimum and not have it available soon after for FC coins or fragment grinding? Still evil.
• Alexander Eddie: Add a new, long term goal that people can work towards while providing people an option to short cut it without everyone just getting that long term goal for free immediately? Straight evil.

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I, for the most part, agree with you Sparton. Most of the time people are not fair in their feedback regarding new additions. A lot of this seems to come from the frustration of not getting the new char - for example the beast.
This is a quite predictable reaction, if i may say so, and to some extend you should expect it.

People play this game, for the most part, because they love the iron maiden lore, this includes myself. The problem is that content are so rarely being added and we have no estimate of when something comes. The latest real addition was BNW which was release in August (aka 8-9 months ago at the time of writing this). After this you've been doing events, a lot of which have been good and have inspired the use of "unused" characters for the sake of completing certain challenges in the cosmos world or elsewhere. But the fact that the only stuff happening for the last good half a year is: "This new char is obtainable by doing this and that in this and this situation" makes people frustrated.

Then, and this is my main point, this results in people being very annoyed when you release a new char that is only obtainable by a long term grind. We have then no "new" content to play (here i even go as far as including events in new) for quite a while as what could have been an event or new content resulted in a character, that might be cool and rewarding, but requires the same grind that have been going on for 8-9 months to continue for another half a year. Still without any indication of when new content will arrive.

I believe that you are, at NF, making an enormous mistake by keeping your cards so tight. You kept the release day of BNW hidden for a very long time and other releases have also been announsed very late. I believe if you gave us all a date for the release of Night City or Gautlet or any of the other features you've been talking about you would see a far more possitive attitude towards events and event special characters.
Right now people are pissed due to the fact that the added characters are the only new stuff to the gave they love and the collection of the later ones have been pure RNG or some half-a-year marathon.

I hope this discussion can take a turn to be constructive, this goes out to everyone. We will not gain anything by complaining. Try your best to explain the problem and the chance of NF listening will be far greater.

Moonchild

Lots of fair counterpoints to my post, Sparton. I still wonder, though, what characters might become available via FCs over the next six months or so. 2500 FCs is a lot to part with even for the most engaged players if alternative options might be appearing soon.

quite expensive packs I'd say. I would've bought if it was 50 +- pounds.

One thing to consider is that the Assassin and Gunner packs will guarantee a 5* Eddie 🙂 so all in all a pretty good deal considering you get 5k ironite was well

2500 coins no comment, the game go in the wall............

Blimey this was a bolt out of the blue - or was it? LOL. Anyway, I see this as a fine addition and goes with the flow of the way the game is changing. We all need long-term goals and this is juts another one. The price is really steep and I could buy loads of them if I wanted as I am not short of cash but I am not that kind of person in life - I never chuck money much at anything unless I know what I am getting - here you do know and yes it will take ages but then so does almost eveything else in the game.

I do agree with a few others though that the game does really need new playable content - the events are great, keep them coming like you have been. That soldier event was superb - my fave in a long time and more of that would be great for all of us. I think patience is the key for me anyway. Sometimes I am and sometimes I am not - my own personal RNG! Will I buy this or not - maybe, maybe not.

The big thing for me is what will buying this character do for me - that is what I ask myself everytime I consider a purchase or a toon or ironite or whatever it is in life. I could buy the strongest roster in the game no problem, but in the end what would it do for me. I might get eternal is the only answer and really that does not mean anything to me in terms of the title or what you win for that (my roster is as complete as it can be with RNG and the recent sac event got me a few new Eds which was great) but being number one in the world while it sounds cool would mean a massive, massive time commitment (which I am not willing to do) and a cash/ironite investment and maybe the hope that another player is not big time going for it which is of course outwith my control - well it might make me feel good to be the number one player in the world for a week but really that is it. With the prizes at the moment in PVP being what they are I think it is people playing for the number one spot only and the title eternal - certainly not the loot.

As ever I am rambling!

The main thing of all of this revolves around patience or not. We all have a degree of patience or else we would not still be here playing this game - right? So lets wait a bit longer with this long term goal - as other s have said new a middle stage players still have goals in the game as they still have content to beat/play against. The rest of us doent but we do I suppose have events to make things a little more interesting...oh and I forogt the main thing.....

NF is a BUSINESS mostly owned by Iron Maiden Holdings Ltd - while they are in it for the fans and making new music (and winning new fans) they are also in it for the money - they have to be, they have shareholders that need dividend for their investment. They have to make money or there is no game for us to play and collect characters. So lets not be suprised with a free to play game looking to make money - it has to or no more game. We dont even know it makes any money - maybe Iron Maiden Holdings are doing this to give something back to the fans to do when not listening to Maiden music - I am not sure the online accounts (Companies House) can really tell us that either way but the company seems to be reasonably healthy in a money sense but it has accounts that are not that different in size to the smallish consultancy company I work for every day here in the UK. So I guess that at the moment the game is not making loads of money for Maiden - one nights takings from a gig and merch would likely be more than a month of income from the game, maybe a lot more than a month. So part of me thinks that the game is for the long run for the band or it would have been gone by now. Clearly the new tour is a massive push for the brand of the game - named after it and very heavily referenced in promo material - the band need to develop new revenue streams as they get older and maybe stop touring as much or make less music they need to be able to get income from elsewhere and to keep the brand relevant and making money.

Shit, I really do ramble!

Anyway, I am all good with it.....just please give us some real new content or a timeline for it that we can be sure will happen. Other then these new toons there is nothing to do for us of any meaning - the arena is a relic zone. Most likely I will keep digging away for relics but at the moment I just do not have the time or energy to battle the top 50 or so. It is just not worth it as 'entertainment' to me - getting owned in one round or hardly getting a shot away - is just a bit boring. I like a challenge but some of the teams (while strong no doubt about it) have a defence bonus and/or RNG on their side most of the time and/or characters I dont have so what is entertaining about that?

I wonder if we could ever have the leagues I have mentioned elsewhere - leagues/divisions within a league or something like that?

Anyway, ramble over.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

See, I respect everyone's concerns and complaints, but this just makes it seem like we can't win.

• Lilith: We're transparent about being able to get the character later via FC coins and fragment grinding? Totally evil.
• The Beast: We indicate the character won't be available for a while at a bare minimum and not have it available soon after for FC coins or fragment grinding? Still evil.
• Alexander Eddie: Add a new, long term goal that people can work towards while providing people an option to short cut it without everyone just getting that long term goal for free immediately? Straight evil.

Like, I can't look at any of the above approaches and see how we could have handled Alexander Eddie better (without making him basically a joke to get for our most engaged players, which I'll touch on in the other half of my post).

The worst part is that if we were any more transparent and then anything changed (such as reconsidering Lilith drop rate, FC prices, or future availability), people would still call us evil.

Legacy of the Beast is a live game that is constantly evolving. We do our best to help make players a part of that journey and to provide clarity for that, but the roadmap (clearly) isn't set in stone. Things change, new additions are sometimes added at the last minute, and sometimes things we hope come out by a certain time end up slipping.



There are many people that still have north of 1000 Frontier Coins, and I'm pretty sure anyone who's active enough to be on top of collecting Trooper, Eternity, and Lilith souls can easily see that they can get Alexander Eddie well short of the 12 months that someone else theorized (who even also theorized that they weren't accounting for Lilith Souls... of which many people have collected so many they already have all 5...). And all of that assumes no Frontier Coins earned from events, future features, etc.

And while I understand wanting to be able to get long term goals immediately... if you could without any real effort, they wouldn't be long term goals, and that defeats the point of us adding them as such. Like, if you wanted to add a cool Eddie as a great long term reward for amassing Frontier Coins, and you wanted it to take longer than just 2-3 months to get... what would you realistically price it at?

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I don’t see the point of long term goals while everything concerning new playable content sits idle. We’ve all got our longterm goals already. Waiting for NC, SP, etc. It honestly makes me kind of sad that I’m so close to deleting this game.

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Originally Posted by Patrice-1201

One thing to consider is that the Assassin and Gunner packs will guarantee a 5* Eddie

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True for the Assassin pack but not the Gunner one (Prisoner is a potential pull as a 5* Gunner).

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Originally Posted by natasar

True for the Assassin pack but not the Gunner one (Prisoner is a potential pull as a 5* Gunner).

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There is a 5* Child of the Damned in purple!

Anyway, I would never ever spend that money on a game! But feel free to do so, as we need more servers, more NF employees for new content and bug fixes. Someone has to pay for that!

109€ for a character in a game and possible a dupe
It is the price for 1 year of one of the most expensive "real game" WOW
They are so funny, they must return in the real world ;)

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Legacy of the Beast is a live game that is constantly evolving.

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Thanks for the laugh - I needed that today. But in the last few months:

evolving = cash grabs

and not

evolving = new content

Sorry, but constantly evolving is not even evil - that's plain ridiculous. Painting chars in a new colour and deliver FOMO for overpriced stuff isn't evolving - it is indeed evil.

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Originally Posted by hold

Thanks for the laugh - I needed that today. But in the last few months:

evolving = cash grabs

and not

evolving = new content

Sorry, but constantly evolving is not even evil - that's plain ridiculous. Painting chars in a new colour and deliver FOMO for overpriced stuff isn't evolving - it is indeed evil.

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+ 1000 ;)