May 2017 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

It's funny how a lot of us thought that counter talis would make defenses be incredibly tough to beat, and yet, we've seen the exact opposite thing happen. Hold rates have never been lower, and that's likely due to counter talis along with some of the toons that were buffed (VE, NoL, Nomad, etc.). Counter talis greatly benefit the attacker, and not the defender (largely due to dumb AI). Sparton did say that the things are currently bugged and proccing at 45% rather than 35%, so maybe we'll notice the difference with the May update.


Regardless, I'm beginning to burn out. Can see why so many people are asking for new content asap. Even then, I figure that'll only keep us busy for so long before we need something else to be satisfied.

Sparton - you mention edge cases in attack-defense ratios. This has been a strange week for me. Last week, I was at 79 attacks and 78 defenses. This week, I've been doing the same pace of attacks, about 10-12 per day. But, I only have 9 defenses, and most of them were from very early in the week.

To be honest, I'd prefer to be attacked more, as the Coins are much more valuable than any dream I have of moving much higher in the rankings.

Is there something I can do to get away from the edge?

druid138-6195

Whoa Nicko and druid, we all posted at the same time. Too awesome! xD

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Originally Posted by druid138

Sparton - you mention edge cases in attack-defense ratios. This has been a strange week for me. Last week, I was at 79 attacks and 78 defenses. This week, I've been doing the same pace of attacks, about 10-12 per day. But, I only have 9 defenses, and most of them were from very early in the week.

To be honest, I'd prefer to be attacked more, as the Coins are much more valuable than any dream I have of moving much higher in the rankings.

Is there something I can do to get away from the edge?

druid138-6195

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Sadly, nothing directly. If you keep attacking, some people will revenge you and eventually the system will not think you're in an "early week ratio" state, but yeah, it's a bit of a blunder on my part to not foresee that some people might not get a sizable amount of defenses within the first day or two of their climb. The change I'm talking about specifically handles the case you're in.

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Originally Posted by HomemLivre

That said I didn't get your point in here, are you saying that despite my effort, strategy and toons of testing hours I only achieve the eternal becouse I used a toon thats doing more damage that intended (Only on defense)?

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Yup ;)

C'mon Homem - you know I wouldn't say that. You've been here a long time - know the game really well - and worked hard.

I was saying I read all kinds of things about your defense and had no idea if it was bamboozling players left and right or was simply average. We had no numbers so it was all speculation. I also didn't know your attack strategy in this point environment - which could also affect your defense. I said it was smart you did something different assuming it was successful. But if it WAS bamboozling players - it won't be sustainable because of the upcoming adjustment. And you're right - the meta changes and we adapt. But it's my personal opinion it will be harder to maintain those 30% rates.

Never said I was right - that's why it's an opinion ;)

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Originally Posted by druid138

Sparton - you mention edge cases in attack-defense ratios. This has been a strange week for me. Last week, I was at 79 attacks and 78 defenses. This week, I've been doing the same pace of attacks, about 10-12 per day. But, I only have 9 defenses, and most of them were from very early in the week.

To be honest, I'd prefer to be attacked more, as the Coins are much more valuable than any dream I have of moving much higher in the rankings.

Is there something I can do to get away from the edge?

druid138-6195

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Same was happening to me. And then it hit.

You won't like it when it does ;)

I'd prefer it kept up because it's easy to get ahead when you're not getting attacked - and then when those attacks DO come you're hit 20 points per broken defense.

Anyone else experiencing long server load times to the point of getting a PVTE1 error message?

Finally decided to play. Just encountered another infinite loop counter attack scenario with SSD, thought this shit was fixed?!? God damn this app sure delivers upon disappointment instead of new content and some sort of fucking stability. Amateurs. Someone earlier said the game went to shit when PvP was introduced. Well that's the sign of a true dev team, balancing PvP meta, if the team can't handle it, the game falls like a house of cards. This is why we get crazy impactful meta changes every few weeks. They are lost and we have to suffer. Straight up disappointed right now. Game is on a road to nowhere.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Yup ;)

C'mon Homem - you know I wouldn't say that. You've been here a long time - know the game really well - and worked hard.

I was saying I read all kinds of things about your defense and had no idea if it was bamboozling players left and right or was simply average. We had no numbers so it was all speculation. I also didn't know your attack strategy in this point environment - which could also affect your defense. I said it was smart you did something different assuming it was successful. But if it WAS bamboozling players - it won't be sustainable because of the upcoming adjustment. And you're right - the meta changes and we adapt. But it's my personal opinion it will be harder to maintain those 30% rates.

Never said I was right - that's why it's an opinion ;)

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+1 for using the word bamboozling multiple times, never seen that shit LOL

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Originally Posted by Jofer16

+1 for using the word bamboozling multiple times, never seen that shit LOL

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Ok - have to admit - that made me laugh out loud!