That Gunner, on the third wave, is the debut, Gunner Derby Demon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
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That Gunner, on the third wave, is the debut, Gunner Derby Demon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
Serious question - has anyone had a primordial drop? I’ve cleared almost 250 rounds and have not see one. I know these events have bad drop rates on talis but I’ve never seen it this bad. After 250 rounds I’d have at least one if not two already.
I’d just like to know if they are actually available before I waste more time and ironite chasing ghosts.
Yes I got one in Madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezz
Is it normal to do not earn any prowler frags from dungeon ? ok to receive gunner frags but when I open such frags, i do not receive any prowler frags. Something I'm missing?
There are not supposed to be Prowler frags. Only Prowler Souls you are getting are from the event rewards and the store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banished
txs Saigrim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saigrim
So except if you spend like 900 ironite*6 times in the store (at least and counting the frags received during the event), you can have it. I did not receive that amount of ironite from the Sac event.
NExt.
You can hold on any character in any match and see their info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
Doesn't show talisman but shows stats and skills.
Well, for me, getting the primmordials are the main objective, and Im getting lots of trouble too. I can't autoplay on madness with my team, so I keep running hard difficulty, and already 200 rounds and no talisman yet :( That is sad, they should at least show how the drop rate % is on the rewards screen.
I see lots of people complaining about how low the chances are, here and in the fb page, but devs seems that don't care. For a time now, everything seems so hard to get, like events that only the top players can complete, drop rates ridiculously low... for getting the stuff, or you are extremly lucky or you put some good money in the game, and beleave me, the price conversion to brazil money is absurd (rank up pack 3 is like ~20% the minimum wage here!).
Over 300 runs at not one primordial. Sorry but this is straight bulls*#t.
So the top players have 2 3 4 sets of these, and now we have an event where someone who does not have a set has spent 500+ ironite and many many hours farming and has not even received one talisman of a set of 6?
Come on - that’s putting in the cost and the time with zero reward.
That’s not a game that’s a joke.
How have you done on previous dungeon events pulling talisman. I went over 450 runs on the eternal without a talisman. Then 500 more until the second dropped, third dropped 50 runs later. Next 350 runs pulled the last 3.
You are not only one with bad luck. It seems some get a bunch others get stiffed. I always thought it was RNG on who gets them, not just how often they drop.
I’ve done hundreds of runs on each dungeon event and never pulled more than 3 of any set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
Was hoping my luck might change this event.
If what you say about rng for the person is true that’s pure crap. These tali’s are only available through these events. You cannot compete at top levels without them. Giving none to certain folks and an abundance to others is absurd and basically eliminating individuals from competition with zero control over it.
That in and of itself is the description of a garbage game.
Esquatcho I'm in the same predicament as Rory. After this last sac event I acquired 9 New Eddies and a fist full of new characters. The last 2 dungeon events (xmas and ferryman) I could not beat madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
I have some toons and some talis but not sure how to use correctly. Id be open to suggestions as well from anyone. Only if you have a moment. I appreciate all the help for this noob
What has been said, if you are the part of the unlucky group it takes 1000-1500 runs to get a full set, or enough to purchase the remainder.
If that’s the case then I’ll just quit now. I’ve done nothing to deserve that punishment - I’ll find a game that I can compete at using skill rather than just luck. Too bad - I like Maiden and the characters but I’m not an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
After experimenting with some more things, (and failing ! :p ), I eventually managed to complete the madness with eternity eddie & Sekhmet, plus the assassin hellraiser (I had some colourless shards to level them up a bit) and Charlotte. New best time: 35:32 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
So that means I have a 3-set of the Serenity talismans.
Looks like I've picked up 1 primordial talisman, for all the good that would do. Completed death alley 168 times, 166 of them on normal, lol.
Not got any of the special characters from the prowler souls though. And not that keen on spending money for the ironite to get enough prowler souls to guarantee Iron maiden Eddie.
I think I might prefer it if the one-shot rewards for completion of the different difficulties had guaranteed souls. Because it kind of sucks a bit, to go through all of this kind of thing to get souls that give you that 3* undead allied soldier (again), instead of the more interesting characters.
5 mega refills; 4 of which on normal 1 of which on hard, not a single primordial.
I've only got two primordials which I did pruchase for 500 ironite from the store last time they were available in a dungeon. I didn't manage to find a single primordial last time, I think it'll be the same this time ...
Its tough, I get you. But at the same token, many of us went through the same grind to get that set of primordials. Id say its less luck and more just that the game is purely about the grind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezz
Personally Ive been grinding the past 6 months am stuck with 3 valors, 1 eclipse & 5 eternals. If you miss out in one event, there will be another event later.
But yeah, if you dont enjoy the grind, then there comes a point where this game isnt fun anymore.
That said, I took a break because the grind got too much. Came back a while later and its more fun again.
Congrats mate! Thats a decent team you've got there now too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory
Dont forget you can get the eddie through the gunner souls. Got to be a bit lucky, but where else are you going to grind this week?
OK, so in terms of Eddies, Id try:Quote:
Originally Posted by gogosox40
Piece of Mind - His fury should be able to clear that 1 round eternals, as long as you've got heavy hitters able to take down the appropriate assassin hellraiser with eternals
Hallowed - With thief talismans, he can set off his fury every 2nd round, every round almost if you have the right relics.
Benjamin - Maybe get rid of those crystals and cosmic and use an energy or shield (forget what the green shield set is called)
Doomsday - I think he's your best bet here, particularly his fury. Your setup looks pretty good too, though there is an argument for thief talismans to get his fury off quicker.
For the team:
Alchemist, like Roray, as he can convert gold buffs to negative
Warrior lilith, as your big hitter - try with strike talismans, or maybe steel...
Madam, sleep them + you get the benefit of the oracles
Not sure of the last. You could try either your gunner lilith, or maybe your PDK or GPD doggies for survivability.
Tbh, its going to be tough with your current depth though. Play around with the invisibility talismans. They can help surviviability. Your guard talismans are also helpful. But I reckon you need more 3 set yellow/greens. Energy talismans/thief/invisibility etc. Really worth building on your talismans I think. Al those crystals arent really well used. Theyre only good on a handful of characters that scale damage on MR (viking eddie/assassin demon spawn), the rest youre better off with talismans that reinforce their damage or provide survivability.
As a more general note its worth improving your Iron Eddie. There are times where he's really useful, particularly together with gunner ninja or assassin demon spawn who cause crave (he has a free move that stuns any unit with crave).
Good luck!
I really appreciate taking your time to help a brother out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esquatcho
I will work on my team now so in next month's dungeon event I can pass the madness. I'm at the point where I can't beat night city on normal so I'll keep grinding away.
Again thanks for the tips and help
I have a team that auto's madness and wins 95% of the time.
Alex - Valor
KP - Shadow, Sdvantage
Alchemist - Angel, Warlord
Ass Banshee - Dominance, Immunity, Cosmic T2 (+15% health)
Team finishes it reasonably quick; the fastest is about a minute, though i've seen it hit 3 minutes before.
Banshee gets primaried often as the biggest threat, which is why she is wearing the dominance tals + the cosmic. It might be worth it to swap the immunity tals for Tranquility to help sustain longer fights.
I've found quicker comps by swapping the banshee for other characters, but it invariably drops the winrate to an amount lower than I'd like.
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Just saw this post: https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/s...ll=1#post93131
Final Frontier Eddie - Eternal
Charlottes - Echo
Killer Prime - Shadow, Advantage
Prisoner - Primordial
And it clocks in reliably at about a minute
No worries mate. I was probably about your stage 6 months ago, keep pushing through the events as best you can and your team will improve and soon enough, you'll be trying to get the madness special challenges!Quote:
Originally Posted by gogosox40
What I have noticed in this events is that usually talisman drops are correlated to run dungeon xxx times top goal. I have done about 250 runs now and got 3 primordials. I had one spare, bought two with ironite.
I got a good team for madness auto 1-1:30 per run:
FFE - eternals
KP - whatevs
Prisoner - primordial
Red goddess - valor
Good luck everybody.
Currently on the 8th mega-refill and haven't seen a single primordial drop so far. I wonder whether I should give up at this point. When even 1k ironite don't yield a single primordial ... how much do I need for a total of 4 ?
What is the best gunner team to auto the madness difficulty? I have most gunner Eddie's except the new one of course, prisoner, osiris, gunner lilith, corrupt rescuer, no gunner banshee and no gunner shinobi .
Thankfully I dont really need any Primordial tallies as got several sets already - I have had two drop and nearly at the 290 count now. Got the rest of the new characters but not IM Eddie which is the way og things usually for me. Grindathon commence!
I did it auto with:Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalKing
- Hallowed (Valor)
- Prisonner (Primordial)
- Osiris (Strike)
- Redan (Destiny / Sustain)
99% the team alive
1% Redan die and can't be revived (so Osiris is quite useless here but he's a gunner, so ...)
I've completed a full set today (sub offensive) and far from 500 runsQuote:
Originally Posted by Liu
Lucky you!!! Very uncommon high drop rate there!Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk56
Yeah, but no money for upgrade 'em ... all my money goes in the sac (and I'm far from finish)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade
Update: first Primordial drop after 248 runs!
In case it helps no gunner auto team found yet but doing manual with:
Krampus
Hallowed
Lilith
Osiris
No issues at all with this team on manual but to save time keeping it manual as tok ages on auto and had the odd defeat too.
Liu, you seem to be in the unlucky pool of players for the talisman drop. Either you get lucky and they drop like mad or you get stiffed and take 1000+ battles for a few talisman. As I've said before there is a RNG for players to get the good drop rates vs the actual drop rate.
How does everyone think the rest of the rewards are this event. I've only run 150 battles and cant really give a good opinion on reward drops. I dont think I am getting that many colorless shards.
My suggestion Hallowed - Prisoner - Osiris - Redan on auto:Quote:
Originally Posted by scott-5496
- first wave, choose the Hellraisers
- second wave, choose the Killer ed
- third wave, choose the banshee
- fourth wave, choose the banshee (the gunner tricksters are a pain in the ass and may took minutes to wipe out)
- fifth wave, the assassin banshee then Iron Maiden Ed
Nearly 100% wins
Great team but not got Redan - one of the few I am missing! Its fine though I will get there on manual.Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk56
I got it done on manual with Hallowed, Ibuki, Prisoner and Osiris. Long grind....
Well RNG can be a bitch. The last time Talisman were featured in a Dungeon event I got exactly one single Talisman after grinding about 800 times. This time I am at my 151 runs and got 5 Talisman. So to all those unlucky: Hang in there been there, done that, but you can't change RNG
I did around 600 runs without any primordials and I gave up. I would love to have a set but who knows I could run it 10,000 times and not get one so I am over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liu
I think it’s silly to have a component of a game that is quite crucial available only to some who get lucky.
Why not just make it fair and say make an achievement ties to it. “Complete 1000 runs of the dungeon and receive a complete primordial set”. Those that want to compete will put in the time, those that don’t care wont. It’s absurd that some have a full set in 300 runs and others get nothing for 1000 runs. It’s not the same as getting a lucky soul drop - this is countless hours of grinding for squat.
So F it, I just won’t compete.
Ezz, there is no good comprimise. The ones who get lucky think the event is great. The last dungeon event if you didn't get lucky and pull Eddie it took 30 hours of grinding to earn him. I didn't have time, but my nephew did it for me. SWE is not a game changer, but all the rewards were worth the cost approximately 2800 net ironite.
You never know when or if your luck will change. It took 900 battles to earn my first 2 eternals, then less than 600 more battles four 4 more. I know several others had similar results.
There is a good compromise as I said above - difficult stretch goals to earn the prize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
And what about the people who maybe tried grinding the dungeon say 2500 times without having a tali drop? That very well may have happened! What do you say to him? Keep trying? Where do you draw the line and say it’s not worth the time or effort?
Still trying to find a Gunner team that can win auto. Last team I used did win but barely and then I got a server error. Classy.