Week 2 of PvP - Statistics and Attacks

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Originally Posted by slauki

1. reducing the tunt% of mummy and SSD
2. change prisoners passive that only affect random passives (or removes the passives of the own team too)
3. change siege, that is only affects random effects (or reduces the own effects too)
4. change the gunner rescuer in some way, otherwise he will be the next chuck norris
5. decrease the damage output from grim reaper or remove his extra turn, that can trigger 3-4 times, doing 15k damage every time
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1. To me his % is okay, I think it is overprocessing. I have exact same processing rates on other toons that are processing nowhere near the frequency of SSD and Mummy.

2. If there is a nerf to prisoner it needs to be very very subtle. He is 5*. I'll continue to be a proponent that nerfing him comes at a high risk. He, as he is, is cool. I don't have him, but love what he does.

3. Against anything done to siege. I almost hate siege more than prisoner given it affects you every round until he is gone, but again think siege has a place in the game. I wouldn't touch it.

4. I don't stress him anymore; although he is very much one of the top game changing players. I'd love to have him on offense.

5. Grim is a tough one. Unsharded he isn't that bad. Almost boring. To get him OP you have to spend a shift-load of shards, and you get him after beating the game. On the fence here. I think given the investment to fully shard, I lean towards leaving as is.

My 2 cents.

Good points slauki! Good to discuss.

Sparton, are you going to have more character discussions? That was hot about a month ago and is now dead.

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Originally Posted by Sag7272

As promised, here are my stats for a full week... Sure could had gone ballistic & play with Nicko & Shaolin but lacking time I quietly landed 6th, real happy for GMAC & his 5th place :)

ATT 96% (361/376)
Def 35% (121/350)

Lowest def hold since beginning of January before the "GS/DM" freezer teams..

Before we hear the classic " He have a prisoner that's why he's that high" refrain, remember that everyone in that team is maxed & is thought to work with the other toons around him, tallismans too are built accordingly as a whole been tested in LoL & def manager hundred of times to figure out AI ect..
There's a reason why I never shown last week stats, with all newcomers smashing a wall I would had been crucified...

I'll never say that the Prisoner is a small factor out there he's really powerful both way but there's dozen of other factors too, testing, tallismans, skillshards.. every tweak account for a hold here & there & higher rate should not ONLY accounted as a given because someone have a prisoner, I may be wrong but to me he may account for a good 5-7% DEF or ATT rate for sure but probably not the 10-15% he's accused of by many...
For what it worth that's where my opinion is...

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My defense is fully skillsharded and I loose a lot against it if I test it - but I can't neutralize their passives. I got full 50 level talis on all of them. If it is only a matter of testing, talismans, skillshards and so on - try a week without your Prisoner and we talke again. Very easy to proof us "complaining people" wrong - isn't it?

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Originally Posted by The Educated fool

Well said as usual, Sag. It seems like testing defenses and building teams with synergy is kinda taken for granted here sometimes, doesn't it? I see that too. And 5 - 7% (which I agree, seems accurate) really doesn't seem all that much to me either... but, like you, that's my opinion.)

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easy to calculate: 400 attacks -> 7% -> points to have or to gain or to loose (assuming a lousy 12 points per fight) -> 672 points difference - to me that ounds like a big deal.

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Originally Posted by ToTameAGame

My defense is fully skillsharded and I loose a lot against it if I test it - but I can't neutralize their passives. I got full 50 level talis on all of them. If it is only a matter of testing, talismans, skillshards and so on - try a week without your Prisoner and we talke again. Very easy to proof us "complaining people" wrong - isn't it?

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I don't mean what you imply..
I mean that back in the beta I saw an impressive increase of about 5% over a week by doubling my void shield set, was it prisoner fault too?
The fact that most toon in my defense stun to work with the mummy 2 turn taunt are prisoner fault too?
I can put many powerful 5* tallisman combination that would lead to a lower rate of hold despite doing more damage...

I said that you have to look at the broader picture when you interpret those results as even with all the right toons you can build a shitty team prisoner or not if it doesn't work together & hold a certain balance talisman wise be these maxed or not..

A good part of the higher rates is in the small details & thinkering, the prisoner is a factor it's true but interpreting the results the way you do give him too much credit, look at Shaolin stats & tell me he's that far of a prisoner team, I bet there's a lot of thinkering & work behind this & it didn't happened overnight... Toons-team-tallismans, everything have to work together just being maxed is not the point in a successful defense..

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Its silly to debate whether the Prisoner makes a difference - he does. I'll be honest - I've played over 1000 matches over the last two weeks. I've lost to only THREE non-Prisoner teams. I specifically remember each of them. One was Schadenfreud when I left my Prisoner out and his AoP became a "Prisoner" (which WILL happen if Prisoner is nerfed too hard) - My Hellhound and Troll didn't work - I went second - and was taunted/stunned to oblivion. The other two were against ChaosEgo and Carlos. Each of those times I got careless and attacked Void shields with my Hellhound while not paying attention.

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I saw that hold when I was on my lunch break at work the other day. I thought to myself that the game just probably crashed on you. I hate to see the Prisoner get nerfed but I do understand it now. Personally, It is easier to accept now that I have learned how to beat Prisoner teams. I figure it is more of an advantage to have it to use on your offense and fight passive free than anything else. You have to think backwards when going against Prisoner teams and fight with a defense team. I think that is the part that Gmac and I have figured out. I agree with you about the Angel of Pain living up to it's name. It gives me more trouble than the Prisoner but the Corrupt General gives me more trouble than any other character in the game. You can take it down quick as long as you have a chance to attack. I am pretty sure I have suitable characters on my roster to deal with it, just need to figure out what to develop next

Here my statistics

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• I spent 0 (zero) ironite to refill SoW or refresh the attack list
• Never cleared the whole attack list, only attacked higher ranked players to get more points. Mainly I attacked 2-3 targets from list and then waited until free refresh was available. Only attacked lower ranked players if I still had unused SoW and had to go to bed :)
• My defense has a prisoner, but the win rate is pretty low. Maybe as result that I was attacked back by top players.

Really annoying were totally 10 lost battles, which I had to exit due to bugs reported in this post

I don't know if I was not appearing on some attack lists, but the differences how often we are attacked can be partially also be explained, that the players can choose whom to attack. And some teams are less attractive as others.
My personal conclusion is not to attack a Mummy+SSD+CG combo :). As I have no toons who can grant passive immunitiy, even if I go first I then never got control of my team.

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Originally Posted by slauki

actually that's the biggest fun part in PVP adjusting strategys on many different and creative teams. but atm you see the same toons everywhere, mummy, prisoner, ssd, bluebat, grim reaper and aof. that's makes pvp just another boring grindfest.

for more variation we need more balance. yes it would also be okay to buff some other nice characters. prolly it would be even smarter than nerfing three OP toons. but in realitiy it's much more difficult to do that.

so i would suggest several things for the sake of diversity:

1. reducing the tunt% of mummy and SSD
2. change prisoners passive that only affect random passives (or removes the passives of the own team too)
3. change siege, that is only affects random effects (or reduces the own effects too)
4. change the gunner rescuer in some way, otherwise he will be the next chuck norris
5. decrease the damage output from grim reaper or remove his extra turn, that can trigger 3-4 times, doing 15k damage every time

we would instantly see a much greater variation of teams and more justice for all :-)

and yes, there will be the next toon, that will cause trouble, but that's no argument to live with these broken things forever. if we do nothing, this will hurt the game in midterm and longterm. so we kinda have all to swallow some bitter pills (like CG, AOF and AOS nerfs for example).

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I agree with most of this, especially the taunting. I rely on this alot myself. I disagree that the Corrupt Rescuer will ever be that threatening. I used it on my defensive team when I first got it but most have learned how to dispose of it easily. The key is with Talismans and Stuns, just keep her from reviving allies. She is almost as dumb as Pharaoh Eddie anyway. The problem with all the nerfing is we are going to reach a point where the only defensive hold anyone gets is going to be because of game crashes

Here is my stats, no prisoner, no CG no troll. I was playing with attack team so my attack is a little lower this week, i expect it to be higher this week.

Attack 77% (236/306)
Defense 30% (116/381)

Finished rank 183

it is very weird on the times someones name comes up. My wife had 20 fewer attacks than me, but was attacked less then 100 times total. I assume it is perception on what could be an easier team to beat.
I have already been attacked 44 times and have only attacked 3 times since reset.

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Originally Posted by Chaosego888

I agree with most of this, especially the taunting. I rely on this alot myself. I disagree that the Corrupt Rescuer will ever be that threatening. I used it on my defensive team when I first got it but most have learned how to dispose of it easily. The key is with Talismans and Stuns, just keep her from reviving allies. She is almost as dumb as Pharaoh Eddie anyway. The problem with all the nerfing is we are going to reach a point where the only defensive hold anyone gets is going to be because of game crashes

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the set of skills is way too much imo. revive party, endure, and renewing shield every round, enough for 3 good toons if you ask me.

regarding the defense i agree. it would be very tough for them, but this would be easy to fix. give them some kind of bonus if they went 2nd like healshield, damage reduction or something like that and that could balance out the holds a little more. but yeah, changes have to be subtile and thoughtout. it's not a good idea too nerf every toon out there, but as mentioned, for the sake of diversity, and healthy game development it's simply necassary in some cases, but that's only my opinion. other creative and game saving solutions are always welcome.

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Originally Posted by slauki

the set of skills is way too much imo. revive party, endure, and renewing shield every round, enough for 3 good toons if you ask me.

regarding the defense i agree. it would be very tough for them, but this would be easy to fix. give them some kind of bonus if they went 2nd like healshield, damage reduction or something like that and that could balance out the holds a little more. but yeah, changes have to be subtile and thoughtout. it's not a good idea too nerf every toon out there, but as mentioned, for the sake of diversity, and healthy game development it's simply necassary in some cases, but that's only my opinion. other creative and game saving solutions are always welcome.

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I was thinking about to create a sort of categories battle. For instance on Monday it allows fights between warriors, Tuesday sentinel, and so on, till Friday were all categories are admitted again till Sunday night.

Dunno doesn't seem a bad idea, it really could give more variety to the game and prisoner op teams ll be playable only in a short timeline, giving more chance to overtake the ranks from bottoms levels.

Great idea. They don't have to do it each week, but once a month have a class battle week.

Genius!

Attack 95% 216/226
Defense 24% 117/484
Rank 390

I was attack almost 500 ⚔️
I can't post a picture I don't have computer I tried to do it from my phone if anyone knows how to do it please let me know

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Originally Posted by rider

Here my statistics

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• I spent 0 (zero) ironite to refill SoW or refresh the attack list
• Never cleared the whole attack list, only attacked higher ranked players to get more points. Mainly I attacked 2-3 targets from list and then waited until free refresh was available. Only attacked lower ranked players if I still had unused SoW and had to go to bed :)
• My defense has a prisoner, but the win rate is pretty low. Maybe as result that I was attacked back by top players.

Really annoying were totally 10 lost battles, which I had to exit due to bugs reported in this post

I don't know if I was not appearing on some attack lists, but the differences how often we are attacked can be partially also be explained, that the players can choose whom to attack. And some teams are less attractive as others.
My personal conclusion is not to attack a Mummy+SSD+CG combo :). As I have no toons who can grant passive immunitiy, even if I go first I then never got control of my team.

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Vadym - thanks for posting - were you playing all week or just at the very end?

Sparton suggested that those with low attacks on them may be waiting until the last minute to play. Really curious what your experience was.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by CanyptianFit

Sparton, are you going to have more character discussions? That was hot about a month ago and is now dead.

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I've been telling Kaz to cool his jets; we aren't looking at doing nerfs to anyone outside of the guys we posted threads about (and even then we've either done something or have decided to do nothing for now). The Prisoner is still on our mind, but we want to see if we can evolve the meta by introducing things instead of doing direct changes to him, but if the next thing we add in doesn't work as well as we'd like, then we'll reassess. The only reason we didn't see such addition to the meta in time for worldwide is we needed more time to iron out bugs relating to it.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

I've been telling Kaz to cool his jets; we aren't looking at doing nerfs to anyone outside of the guys we posted threads about (and even then we've either done something or have decided to do nothing for now). The Prisoner is still on our mind, but we want to see if we can evolve the meta by introducing things instead of doing direct changes to him, but if the next thing we add in doesn't work as well as we'd like, then we'll reassess. The only reason we didn't see such addition to the meta in time for worldwide is we needed more time to iron out bugs relating to it.

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Emphasis mine.

This sounds like a good solution. I'm intrigued to see what you and the team have come up with and am hoping that it'll be introduced sooner rather than later so we can finally tackle the Prisoner.

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Casual pvp'er. Not even using all my daily sow. Main reason is I don't have enough materials to enhance all the talismans I want to use + I still havnt mastered ideal talismans setups and effective toon synergies.

I do have really good toons, talismans, just need to learn effective strategies. I'm good on campaign setups.

No prisoner. Not using warrior troll.

Last week stats:

Rank: 13
Points: 3137
Attack Wins: 76% (648/855)
Defensive Wins: 8% (18/219)

Played every day, spent iron item on refills daily, etc. I rarely refresh my list, as I like the free sands.

All this time I've been pretty happy/impressed with my skillz in PvP, considering the 5* players that I don't have (no Prisoner, no Troll, no CG, no Bats, and I'd rather remove a ball with a rusty fork than use Mummy, etc.) -- only to realize that both my win % and defense % are abysmal, and should realistically land me in the bottom 10% of players who have been playing as long as I have. I only achieved my rank due to not getting attacked -- and by refilling a shit load of SoW -- which really deflates some of the good feelings/fun I am having. FWIW, I feel bad that I just got lucky, while some of you, who are by far superior players, got bent over. It's like Obama's left leg; it ain't right.

Some other thoughts (assuming you all care):

Don't nerf the Prisoner, GRE, the taunters, stunners, etc. I've had more fun in the last two weeks trying to figure out how to beat those bitches with my "standard" teams than I've had in the last six months combined. Every toon has a counter, and as evidenced by my %'s above, I've yet to figure most of them out -- but I HAVE figured out a few. Do they work every time? Nope, but thinking about different ways, testing them, and then actually having some success (even if it is 1 win out of 10 -- it sure beats 0 out of 10) is uber-gratifying to me. My wife knows when I've made a breakthrough of some kind (like beating a team that has smoked me 4 or 5 times in a row -- you guys know who you are; hooray for easy def. points!) because I can't contain myself and usually bellow out something childish and crude -- usually having to do with ass-rape in the prison yard, the terms "dick hole," "pooh-finger," and/or "FEAR MY SCHMEB!" or ingesting/biting/sniffing horse balls, my schweaty anus, or GMAC's taint. 😱

The point is, nerfs are lame. Don't let the game beat you; you're better than that! Figure that shit out and quit whining! (and learn how to spell "lose" -- your failure to grasp 3rd grade spelling concepts, combined with your incessant bitching, only makes you look durka-durk.)

Also, I don't understand the whole "root for your trooper" mentality here. Sure, maybe if this were an MMORPG where we actually got to know folks, that might be something -- but, seriously, I don't get it. If you're on my list, I'm gonna attack you (and shoot, chances are pretty good you're gonna get some free points when I run face-first into your fist), and it's nothing personal. I also expect you all to attack the snot out of me. I know that the only thing I'm good for is 25 Trooper points a day, so just leave it at that, and have at me.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Vadym - thanks for posting - were you playing all week or just at the very end?

Sparton suggested that those with low attacks on them may be waiting until the last minute to play. Really curious what your experience was.

Thanks!

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I played all the week, utilized every free SoW (24 naturally generated + 3 from daily rewards), this makes 189 free SoW per week (27x7) which you can see in my attacks stat. The rest of 4 was not used SoW from previous week. So my attacks were distributed very smoothly along the week.

As I preferred to attack high ranked players, most of my attack wins gave me at least 17 points and with most of losses I lost 12 or 13 points.

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Originally Posted by Lord Schmeb

Last week stats:

Rank: 13
Points: 3137
Attack Wins: 76% (648/855)
Defensive Wins: 8% (18/219)

Played every day, spent iron item on refills daily, etc. I rarely refresh my list, as I like the free sands.

All this time I've been pretty happy/impressed with my skillz in PvP, considering the 5* players that I don't have (no Prisoner, no Troll, no CG, no Bats, and I'd rather remove a ball with a rusty fork than use Mummy, etc.) -- only to realize that both my win % and defense % are abysmal, and should realistically land me in the bottom 10% of players who have been playing as long as I have. I only achieved my rank due to not getting attacked -- and by refilling a shit load of SoW -- which really deflates some of the good feelings/fun I am having. FWIW, I feel bad that I just got lucky, while some of you, who are by far superior players, got bent over. It's like Obama's left leg; it ain't right.

Some other thoughts (assuming you all care):

Don't nerf the Prisoner, GRE, the taunters, stunners, etc. I've had more fun in the last two weeks trying to figure out how to beat those bitches with my "standard" teams than I've had in the last six months combined. Every toon has a counter, and as evidenced by my %'s above, I've yet to figure most of them out -- but I HAVE figured out a few. Do they work every time? Nope, but thinking about different ways, testing them, and then actually having some success (even if it is 1 win out of 10 -- it sure beats 0 out of 10) is uber-gratifying to me. My wife knows when I've made a breakthrough of some kind (like beating a team that has smoked me 4 or 5 times in a row -- you guys know who you are; hooray for easy def. points!) because I can't contain myself and usually bellow out something childish and crude -- usually having to do with ass-rape in the prison yard, the terms "dick hole," "pooh-finger," and/or "FEAR MY SCHMEB!" or ingesting/biting/sniffing horse balls, my schweaty anus, or GMAC's taint. 😱

The point is, nerfs are lame. Don't let the game beat you; you're better than that! Figure that shit out and quit whining! (and learn how to spell "lose" -- your failure to grasp 3rd grade spelling concepts, combined with your incessant bitching, only makes you look durka-durk.)

Also, I don't understand the whole "root for your trooper" mentality here. Sure, maybe if this were an MMORPG where we actually got to know folks, that might be something -- but, seriously, I don't get it. If you're on my list, I'm gonna attack you (and shoot, chances are pretty good you're gonna get some free points when I run face-first into your fist), and it's nothing personal. I also expect you all to attack the snot out of me. I know that the only thing I'm good for is 25 Trooper points a day, so just leave it at that, and have at me.

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Don't sell urself short,u were 12th!

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Originally Posted by Sag7272

The fact that most toon in my defense stun to work with the mummy 2 turn taunt are prisoner fault too?

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Well, The Prisoner does make it a lot harder to counter taunters and stunners, so yeah....

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Originally Posted by konstifik

Well, The Prisoner does make it a lot harder to counter taunters and stunners, so yeah....

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I give up now to sound like a broken record. Problem is that people with a Prisoner don't know how it is on the other side because they never take him off - so they can't see it. Why would they take him off (on the other hand)?

I'm just hoping that the counter measurements metioned by Sparton will come very soon and are effective.

Lord Schmeb, you are a hoot! That post made my day.

No AoF, Prisoner, Troll or Corrupt Rescuer. Just annoying greens + AoP. Couldn't bother shifting chars so defence/attack team the same \../

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My stats for the week and last week/best.

I have a Prisoner, A Troll and A HH and my defence still gets destroyed so to be honest I don't think Prisoner seems that OP to me as mine gets busted regularly. I also beat Prisoner teams as well - it is the taunters that are a pain but I like the struggle! I have lost no matches when I go first but I di need to sort my defence as it has good toons - I just cant have them set up right though I did get a lot of attacks last week - I didn't make any purchases or SoW either and just played the free refills (I think or I may have paid for a couple early in the week - can't quite remember).

So I am OK with whaere I am and what I get and I like the challenge - so I have no real problems with PVP as such but I agree with lots of other points made about number of attacks...and if you do want to get in top 25 you have to pay to play it would seems and no way I am going to do 700-800 attacks or whatever is needed - not got the time and want my troopers to be my play priority with intermittent PVP while SoT refill.

Still loving the game though. Just would like some new content like so many others and really not bothered about nerfs either and I know I have the Prisoner but as I said he gets owned plenty by others so with my low defence wins can he be that good....or am I really needing to sort out my talisman on my defence! LOL.

Up the Irons....oh and Maiden Scotland were awesome on Friday in Edinburgh...superb band!

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Attack 73% (110/151)
Defense 3% (1/30)
Rank 733

I (clearly) don't spend ironite on SoW refills so I don't get to attack much. I usually hover in the 1500 -> 1700 VP range.

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Originally Posted by ToTameAGame

I give up now to sound like a broken record. Problem is that people with a Prisoner don't know how it is on the other side because they never take him off - so they can't see it. Why would they take him off (on the other hand)?
I'm just hoping that the counter measurements metioned by Sparton will come very soon and are effective.

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I've been on the other side man, also remember having to build a whole team around to work with him back then, sitting a strategic team member, change tallismans setup, rebuild strategy & synergy is way too more investment for a week & certainly not just to please you...

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Originally Posted by konstifik

Well, The Prisoner does make it a lot harder to counter taunters and stunners, so yeah....

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The fact that you can't counter is actually his fault that's right... But completely left field about what I'm talking about...
Again, you put everything on his shoulders & refuse to face what I said, forget him 2 min & without a hellhound or artillery dog on offence any stunner in his place be it another AoF or an AoS would bring the same synergy with the mummy taunt..

If I can image what I've ment by my comment...
Prisoner is a brick, a very important one don't get me wrong but you have to build a fk** wall not pile up some bricks in hope it doesn't crumble when it matters, it's a whole..
Prisoner or not, I had to build like 25 tallismans specifically for PvP & develop 3-4 if not more toons I would had let sit there otherwise because once again, everything have to work together to get those % up, any successful team will tell you that...

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Originally Posted by rider

Here my statistics

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• I spent 0 (zero) ironite to refill SoW or refresh the attack list
• Never cleared the whole attack list, only attacked higher ranked players to get more points. Mainly I attacked 2-3 targets from list and then waited until free refresh was available. Only attacked lower ranked players if I still had unused SoW and had to go to bed :)
• My defense has a prisoner, but the win rate is pretty low. Maybe as result that I was attacked back by top players.

Really annoying were totally 10 lost battles, which I had to exit due to bugs reported in this post

I don't know if I was not appearing on some attack lists, but the differences how often we are attacked can be partially also be explained, that the players can choose whom to attack. And some teams are less attractive as others.
My personal conclusion is not to attack a Mummy+SSD+CG combo :). As I have no toons who can grant passive immunitiy, even if I go first I then never got control of my team.

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THIS is exhibit A of how unfair PVP currently is with the different amount of attacks that Nicko was pointing out. This player got rank 16, but was attacked only 10% as much as most players had to defend against.

This is not a dig on you, Rider; I'm pointing out the inequity of the system. Congrats on your rank!

Just give all best characters to everyone if you want a good pvp, new players don't loot so many of them

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Originally Posted by BillLion

THIS is exhibit A of how unfair PVP currently is with the different amount of attacks that Nicko was pointing out. This player got rank 16, but was attacked only 10% as much as most players had to defend against.

This is not a dig on you, Vadym; I'm pointing out the inequity of the system. Congrats on your rank!

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Exactly. And I know people who follow this approach - attack/revenge just higher ranked teams - and get attacked the typical 300-400.

And absolutely agree not a dig on Rider. Or the buddy that Killhouse posted in a similar situation. They benefitted from a bug, pure and simple.

From the looks of things - this isn't a "strategy" that can be duplicated by others. This is a bug in the system.

And Vadym is my Trooper so if it has to be someone - glad it was him!

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Originally Posted by blade685

Just give all best characters to everyone if you want a good pvp, new players don't loot so many of them

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Could not agree more, everybody should get the same chances, and no pay to play/win too!

I believe and hope sacrifice is coming to level the field a bit.

Cheers.

Here are my week 2 stats (with Prisoner). Haven't attacked yet in week 3.

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Off topic, but I am on match 6 in a row against Nicko, and he has gone first 6 out of 6. Not only that, but in 6 matches, I've been able to tap a character, i.e. attack, a grand total of THREE times. Match 6 isn't over yet, but I had to leave mid-fight before I ripped my own face off out of sheer frustration.

Cheerio.

Holy come from behind win! Six in a row was not in the cards, Herr Nicko!


Those +18 have never tasted so good... 👍🏻👍🏻

I was watching from the sidelines wondering how high the Hold count was going to get...

No way I'm revenging THAT sweet victory!

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Originally Posted by Nicko

I was watching from the sidelines wondering how high the Hold count was going to get...

No way I'm revenging THAT sweet victory!

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Haha, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Back into mediocrity I go!

I admire your dedication, Lord Schmeb! I saw you go at it a couple of rounds with me once as well. You have more patience than I have! :p

Came across Tritium and Gmac in my attack list for the first time ever, so decided to test y'alls defense. What we learned was Tritium will nuke my team to all holy hell, and Gmac let me live for 6 rounds, but didnt let me do anything. The take away is im nowhere near competetive enough for the top 100 with what I have. Expect to have my ass handed to me when y'all revenge. (:

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My stats last week. I couldn't make it to the 25th, my wife graduated from university on saturday and I didn't have much time to play. Again I have no prisoner.

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Originally Posted by Ubajoa

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My stats last week. I couldn't make it to the 25th, my wife graduated from university on saturday and I didn't have much time to play. Again I have no prisoner.

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Congrats to your wife!

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Originally Posted by ShadowedLies

Came across Tritium and Gmac in my attack list for the first time ever, so decided to test y'alls defense. What we learned was Tritium will nuke my team to all holy hell, and Gmac let me live for 6 rounds, but didnt let me do anything. The take away is im nowhere near competetive enough for the top 100 with what I have. Expect to have my ass handed to me when y'all revenge. (:

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Haha, no worries! I like running into forum members' teams in PVP. It's always fun to see what everyone is running. I'd love to receive more feedback on my team ─ I haven't been able to come up with a great defense just yet, but my current one seems to have the best hold rate (even for my lack of a Prisoner and not using my AoP!). I've actually held against multiple people with Prisoners with it; makes me wish we could watch a replay of how the fight went so we could see how our defense works.