He is not a big fan of my team ... goes down latest in round 2 - I quote fro above:Quote:
Originally Posted by Segoy
- Doomsday - Labyrinth / Cosmos
- KP - Warlord, Sustaining, Immunity
- Ferryman - Hex, Immunity
- Prisoner - Primordeal
He is not a big fan of my team ... goes down latest in round 2 - I quote fro above:Quote:
Originally Posted by Segoy
- Doomsday - Labyrinth / Cosmos
- KP - Warlord, Sustaining, Immunity
- Ferryman - Hex, Immunity
- Prisoner - Primordeal
Just hit 500 wins and well I got 5 Primordials and an endless amount of sands of war and colorless 5* xp shards so that's where the real rewards are at. Still have 1,500 ironite to burn in this event, and I'm considering plundering it all to get the Eddie and the General since the events this month don't sound too ironite intensive, other than possibly Viral Frontier and Rites of Passage.
I hear what you are saying Segoy - it can be tough if you dont have the characters/talisman for sure. My kids have accounts but dont have strong enought team for Madness so they either farm hard or normal - that is the way to go. For me it is a waste of time trying to push yourself to complete madness if you cant - just leave it and move on. Farming Hard or Normal, while not as effective/efficient is still a good way to get to your goals in the event. Just aim for an auto team that can clear without fails and set it off and let auto do the rest.
Sometimes it is just a bit of luck that you have the right tallies and characters to do stuff - I kept two Ferrymen - they can be rubbish on PVP but in PVE like this they can be a great part of a team - one of mu kids managed to get a Raven Witch and just that one gain has made everything else a bit easier for him.
It may be that you can get a manul team sorted for madness - no idea if you can or not but you must have decent tallies and plenty relics I think. More about surviving in madness level so you need to gear up for that if you have not got characters like Raven Witch or Ferryman or other really strong characters/blockers.......in my mind madness level should be really hard - sometimes they make so even I and others struggle to get an auto team - if that happens I drop down to hard and let it run on auto.
What hold said is the way to deal with part 1 of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Segoy
Perspective is a big part of the game, I can’t see how original players have a massive advantage and an ever widening gap between those who have and have not, I have seen some regular forum members here that weren’t original, become forces to reckon with, some put in the hours, some put in the money, some do both.
There’s still a large number of original members here that remember what the arena top contenders list consisted of on a week to week basis, the top 100 now used to be the top 25. There’s that many awesome players with plenty of depth that need only to make the decision to do the work and they can be No.1. 75% of them lifted their game in the past 12 months.
We’ve all been lacking for characters or Talisman or both at some time in the game, money will only get you so far.
I don’t mean to sound unsympathetic towards the newer player base, but we can only play with the characters and Talisman we’ve been given,earnt or purchased, play to that level!
We must be very close to LOTB’s 3rd Birthday, hopefully everyone will score well from the coming celebration/shananigans...
Running madness does not supply a surplus of ironite. It appears that way for the first few hundred runs with the rewards for missions complete. Then you start to burn ironite. The last event similar to this was ferryman. It took 1500+ runs at a net of 2800 ironite to achieve. The rewards were tremendous, the featured toons, 50+ SS, 550 SoW, 250 3* colorless runes, unknown FC and colorless shards, not counting the endless hours.
If you have the time to burn and ironite these events are worth the effort.
Great observation. Its probably not always as easy as it seams for them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Segoy
I'm not a senior member, but I've been playing catch up since July '18, spent ALOT of time & more money than I should. I feel I hold my own. I complete 99% of achievements/events, and have ranked just under eternal multiple times. I'm not boasting but what is "professional?" I've got most of the toons and all the talis, and just when I think I have "gotten up on the porch with the big dogs" and I feel I can downshift and glide for awhile, I then realize as soon as I get comfortable, I know I'll fall behind. What if I miss that meta changing toon or that new talis set "everyone" has? PvP is the proving ground and we all know it. If you want to stay in the top 50, or 100 even, can one afford to miss an event.
Navigator counts on this, the Fear of Missing Out. Usually it means not being included, but if we miss out on game changing essentials, will we miss not being included in the top rankings? You know, the ones the gamers on the FB page complain they'll never achieve for free.
Noob development:
the first wave on madness is sometimes so overpowered and kills my whole team, but the boss wave can be done with a single Alexander Eddie!
They've been doing that the last several dungeons... I guess if you must lose, better to lose early???Quote:
Originally Posted by URock
And @Sego that Magus bomber is wearing Labyrinth talismans.. that's why he doesn't take much damage.
I just wish the view would be corrected. I have to select the most right toon to even see when to tap. Half the time I can't even see who I'm striking.
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Originally Posted by rags-6094
Exclusive means you will only get it from this soul. The odds are layed out in the BoS info tab. There's a 2.54% to draw a 5*. This is about double as high as it used to be. The last event soul also had higher odds. When you are pulling a 5* there is a 63.38% chance it's going to be a highlight, i.e. either eddie or feldmarschall. It works similar, but with different numbers for 4*. Therefore your chances of getting the highlight are NOT affected by the size of the soul pool. I've posted the odds of pulling at least on highlight in a previous post - for your convenience:
Also note that random means random. Some, see fudjo, get 4x5* highlights in a 10 stack while others don't get a highlight for months. It's been like this for me as well. A high probability doesn't guarantuee you'll get anything, and a low probability doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get nothing. It just means, that if you open a very large amount of souls, the frequency of drawings of a 5* will converge to the probability of drawing a 5*.Quote:
odds, that you will pull at least 1 highlight after opening x souls:
5*
Expected number of Souls: 63
Souls: 5, chance: 7.79%
Souls: 10, chance: 14.98%
Souls: 25, chance: 33.35%
Souls: 50, chance: 55.58%
Souls: 75, chance: 70.39%
4*
Expected number of Souls: 19
Souls: 5, chance: 24.1%
Souls: 10, chance: 42.39%
Souls: 25, chance: 74.81%
Souls: 50, chance: 93.65%
Souls: 75, chance: 98.4%
This event seems, for me anyway, to be a no lose event. I ttok a note of most of my resources prior to starting the event and all of them are better than they were by a long way in most cases and virtually neutral on ironite used - I have farmed madness of course and also done other stuff like daily dungeons/quests etc so that will have helped but so far I am almost ironite neutral after collecting 6161 frags, gaining around 4.5M gold, 220 SoW and various other stuff on top of that from the loot you get.
Defo a win, win this one even if I wil be down a little on ironite, it wont be much - maybe a hundred or so.
you are right, since i hit the 800 wins I have seen the ironite slowly declining. Still awesome that you can at least clear all the achievements and be at roughly break-even on resources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
I got 4 primordial in the first 800 runs. I have gotten a TON of them since then. I have no idea how many runs im at anymore but every time I check I have another 1 or 2 talisman in the collection. All runs have been done on madness except for maybe the first 150 or so were on hard.
I farmed madness until I got the 2500 fragments and I bought a 10pack of event souls. I pulled the Magus Pyro Soldier.
No more motivation to go on, because madness takes too much time and auto-farming the whole day is stupid and boring.
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43 souls, really happy. Event is done for me
Nice haul there dude. 4 Eddies! This is the thing with RNG you can get 4 and loads get nothing - it really is a weird one!
...facepalm...fck rng
Why does no one auto farm on normal
Because the talisman drop is presumed to be unrelated to difficulty. If your objective is to maximize talisman drops you probably want to run on normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beddie
You get 3-6 bomber boy fragments for 6 SoT on normal and 10-18 for 10 SoT on madness...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beddie
that’s my only reason.
Almost 3 years I play (first day) and finaly I get event toon. Open 40 souls and I get bomber Eddie, 2x blue pyro and 2x yellow pyro. 780 runs , I get 2 talis. autofarm 80% on madness ,time 45 sec- 1 min i 30 sec
If you're looking to get the event toons, farming on Madness is the most efficient in terms of Ironite-to-fragment ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beddie
If you're looking for talismans, farming on Normal is the most efficient because the talisman drops aren't tied to the difficulty level.
Am I wrong or is this the first frag event for a character that's been around for quite some time. I mean the Gunner Bomber Boy isn't new is he?? His abilities definitely aren't in line with new character abilities have been recently.
Please,fellow troopers, don't get me wrong or that I am whinning big time. This game is punishing players who are committed to it from day one. The way the RNG works is scandalous and provocative towards the players. Not only there seems to be a HUGE boost for newer players to get event characters with a few souls, but what is really infuriating is that players with may be 30 souls are earning the event characters not only once ,but twice or more. On the other hand, players like me, are grinding for years like crazy and have only won one or two times a highlight character through event souls. In this event I have wasted more than 50 (!!) souls to get lame characters, 3 4*,and of course the 3 star galore collection. Sorry but this stinks. I will spend all of my ironite but I will earn the two 5*, it is a personal bet this time. Just fix the way the RNG works!!
FYI... 70 souls or more.. only the 2 pyro soldiers here. I got both the Ed and the Field Marshall via the frags - they haven't dropped from a soul.
I would agree that it seems the longer you play the less favorable "RNG" is in giving you event characters.
I had a bit of a whinge a few pages back about not scoring event characters during the event.... then last night who should jump out but the event Eddie!
Still no other characters though.
Aces bomber Eddie seems to be loaded with some cool skills and his passive is designed as an anti Labyrinth/Viper
Two questions for those that have acquired him, 1. What’s your thoughts on him used in arena would he be competitive?
2. What Talisman to run him with? I’m using light Talisman atm but I’d say there’s something better...
I tested him Rags.. the boost against Labyrinth/Viper isn't enough to make me want to use him. He is still a relatively easy kill. But that's just my opinion.
602 runs, mostly madness. Received 6 talismans so far. Got magus and gunner pyro. No 5* event characters yet. I may need to pick up the pace if I'm going to get them via fragments. 2 things I like about these dungeons are all the rewards along the way (nice variety of stuff) and the characters are guaranteed for anyone who wants to grind (and spend the ironite). Props to those of you who have acquired the event characters, whether by pulling or grinding (that sounded better before I wrote it).
I tested him too against some worthy comrades, The first one or two he seemed to die pretty quickly, then if the dice rolls his way, he can get multiple turns and clean up Labyrinth blockers and viper laden characters like their not even there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
I think it would be worth a bit more research, I might have to trade another character and put a blocker in my team again..
All I did for the test was use my current defence of Charlotte/Alchemist/Madam and replaced Alex with Bomber...
Your case is worse than mine.Such a time consuming grind for 70 souls, should have gotten you at least a 5* highlight. I will also get the characters through frags, as well. It is just sometimes you can feel how unjust is RNG, and it can piss you off a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Like Yup, acquired ABE and Feldmarschall via frags but here's the kicker... I dropped the ABE soul then the very next set of event souls dropped another ABE! The RNG is designed not to benefit long time players since these players have probably already spent money. Your chances of pulling event characters are lessened even more if you've spent dollars. It may be "random" but it IS manipulated.
But the thing is...newer players who are no money spenders are strongly favored as well. I don't know if NF throws a "hook" that way to make them spend cash in the future,but after that long of a time playing the game, I believe most of us have figured out that something is indeed manipulated, RNG concerned...Quote:
Originally Posted by kkkreg5
As far as you drop luck after having earned the characters through frags, well what can I say man?I would be pissed a little, if it happened to me ;) I am glad,however, you scored a second one. I am always happy when people earn characters.
I'm still on the fence about trying for these event characters, besides M. & G. Pyro, don't we already have these toons?
Sure BAH Ed has a new passive, but the original AH was updated recently so the passive is the only thing new. Feldmarschall too. Granted, I agree with what Yup previously said about the passive for Feldmarschall being better than CG's fury, but still..... these toons are just rehashing old stuff.
I don't want to kick myself in the next weeks or so when they premiere brand new Ed & ally, cuz I wasted resources on this rehashed stuff.
I'm pretty happy right now, bought my fifth 10-pack and got the Corrupt Field Marshal then got aces bomber from the fragments so lucky me.
575 runs.. I have 6 Primordials now.... so....
How is it possible to farm so many fragments in 2 days? Impossible for me, because every run needs 3 minutes plus loading time.
Im not sure either. I played for past few days for 3 souls that amounted to nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by URock
My runs usually only take 1 minute and it's Gambler Eddie, Charlotte, Madam and Killer PrimeQuote:
Originally Posted by URock
So...no Gambler + no Labyrinth Talisman = no new Eddie
Awesome event 😂
Remember the labyrinth event? It cost 2500 frags for one. How people ended up with 2 sets is beyond me. I played the whole event and couldnt afford one tal
Because of all these motivation killers the game is still dying. So many players left this game and the social media sites showing less and less interest in this RNG-AUTO-FARM game.
In the beginning it was a nice classic round based adventure game with the best music.
R.I.P.