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I've been attacked by the same player at least four times during the night. Should that be possible? I could of course have ended up on his list of 10 over and over but that doesn't seem to likely? I have not attacked him, and he won every time against my defense.
That doesn't mean you can not win, I was attacked also by miklos 2 times while sleeping, this guy is number 1 in the rank. I took my chance and beat him in 2 rounds even when his team started. Only two of my toons are fully sharded. So far almost everyone beats my defence but when I play revenge manually always win.
My point is my question if it's supposed to be like that (because I don't even know how I could attack the same player over and over, unless he shows up in my list multiple times, which of course could happen).Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
Not spent any ironite yet, but pretty sure thats how you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by konstifik
Miklos is the guy who has attacked the world over, multiple times: win, lose or draw. Either Miklos has spent an insane amount of ironite or has hacked/enjoyed fruits of an exploit.Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
Things are what they are as a beta... unlike the game proper, one can't be upset over breaks/exploits while in beta phase.
What should be revised though is multiple attacks on the same player after a victory is achieved. It is understandable here that paid players have only so many opponents to (re)fight, but this should not be the case in the actual game regardless of popularity.
It's one thing to make your living, beating up the CotD in Game of Death all day long. It's a different thing entirely doing so by beating up on some players who can't even revenge successfully against the overwhelming attacker.
revenge does seem like tedious ping-pong. Maybe a limit 2 victories per side per battle.
Afternoon folks :)
I have one question to the experienced someone... How is it like with ''revenge''? I got attacked, lost (well not me personally, but AI) and have the chance for rematch - that's obvious and no further explanations needed; yet I've got attacked, defended myself (AI again - I suppose that someone who played failed?) and I still have the option to rematch - revenge? Why should I revenge myself as my opponent/attacker in this case is done? For the fact I've been attacked?
Cheers,
W
For those wondering how there defense is doing, you can hit the ranking tab, click on the little histogram on the bottom left and see a percentage.
I've learned a few things so far:
1) Who goes first really does matter, especially when the opponent stacks with glass cannons/ability disablers. Even then, though, there are ways to get around it. Definitely more strategy than anything we've done before. But the only times I've lost as attacker are when the opponent goes first.
2) Certain characters and combos are starting to emerge as defensive stars. They're not necessarily the ones we expected. Like anything, the more you play the more you learn.
3) Still wondering how the store will work. Everything is limited to 1x/week (or month for legendary soul). Frequent players will have WAY more iron coins than they can spend. How is the store being developed?
4) The last two nights I went to bed around 1 am Central USA time ranked #1. Yesterday morning I awoke #3, and this morning #8. Once this goes full scale and open to everyone, it's going to take a boatload of gameplay hours (and hence Ironite) to stay top 10. For me that means choosing between the battle for top 10 or my marriage, and I'm going to have to choose my marriage (sorry Eddie). And still have Troopers to play! I will participate in the arena cause it's fun, but fighting to stay competitive is definitely a full time job. I wish those who will fight for the top best of luck!
You and me both, brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
But like you said, it's still worth participating in the arena even if you don't have the $ or time to crack the top ranks.
"Revenge" is a word that suggests an action to get even with somebody for a harm done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witkacy
"Retaliate" is a word that suggests a response to another, regardless of whether you are getting even.
The way it works now, the "revenge" option is really a "retaliate" option that like most retaliations, goes on and on.
Since BNW is not released yet, PVP is the first time that we get to play against the BNW characters.
Yeah! I made it! ;)
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... and I dropped down to #20Quote:
Originally Posted by vgta99
Got to play non-stop to keep on top. Not really an option during the work week. :(
Cool, me as HUE HUE HUE BR BR BR will enjoy testing in our primitive 4G and cable!!!
Now I know why you guys put rune upgrades in store and I'm pretty pissed with myself that i did not buy them... Needing a ton of upgrade talismans materials!!!
Found it cool, even with the AI defending. Got some pretty solid defense teams!!!
And now more than ever skill shards will rule who win and who lose.
Yeah, that's the game! Only rich nolife can win...Quote:
Originally Posted by PS-RagE
How much of the current ironite spending is currently just because its a new released beta?
Im guessing that as things settle down, the amount people are willing to spend on PvP will be more along the lines of what the potential rewards might be. Of course, those that play the most will have the biggest advantage, both from gaining ironite from the campaign and also being able to maximise the ToS/SoW available.
Has anyone been able to win more than 6 Iron Coins in a match? The reward seems to increase from 5 to 6 when you pass 1100 (or thereabouts) trophy points. But are there higher thresholds to earn even more per win?
Yes, I was getting 7 coins last week, think past 1500.
- Starting the battle, win 80%
- Not starting the battle, lose 80%
- Troll and enemy starting, 95% lose
- Troll and enemy not starting, lose 70%
Yay troll is way more dangerous than Corrupt General...
Nah, that's just relative, and team dependand....IMO.
I for example have WAY more problems with CG's stunning up to 4 of my guys (all) even if I have the first turn , than Trolls (since I negate its passive with my death dog)
:cool:
Agreed that even the nerfed CG is a mighty foe in PVP w/ his stuns. There are other characters I don't like to face but I'll leave that fun for others to discover :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aristo4
i agree with bill, even with the nerf CG is too OP. and if the enemy goes first it almost always a defeat for me. he stuns atleast 2 of my toon.
trolls are dangerous but CG is worse. if there is a GR eddie - that is the worst team to fight - if the team other team starts first and GR gets an extra turn (which happens a lot) one character is just dead.
I've learned to Fear The Reaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frost
If my team survives the opening salvo intact, I can usually still win the match.
Stunners and taunters are the worst, IMO.
Lag kills in the Arena
I never developed Grim Reaper because he requires a boatload of skillshards, but for those who did he's certainly paying dividends. One of my a Troopers has a GR with Slash leveled to 5. He's brutal!
I know this has been mentioned before but, I really noticed it this morning when I logged in. Went to bed #1 woke up #35 . This really wasn't the problem, the problem is that I can't revenge Everyone that ganked me while I was sleeping. 10 defense slots isn't enough.
maintenance break in an hour. hold on to your nips and nuts
Think it was supposed to have started 18 minutes ago it's 11:18 PST now.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdeviations
I've stopped "Revenge"-ing. Seems to be an endless back and forth only losing SoW and not gaining any ground on the standings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleknight
I'm hoping this goes away when PvP is fully live as there will be more players and hopefully you won't get attacked as much. Right now it's really frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleknight
The problem is you win more points revenging than attacking new opponents. And when you attack new ones, you're "poking the hornets nest" for them to come back and get revenge on youQuote:
Originally Posted by PS-RagE
ohh .. my notification said noon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleknight
Its funny you should mention that. Just now, I had the same player listed twice in my "Revenge" list. The first match I beat him and got +5 points. The second match, he wiped out my team on his opening move and I lost 11!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
Indeed, but since he is the most nerfed character in the game (got 2 nerfs, ouch) and shown as a top prize, he deserves respect and being OP. But for me, the worst OP synergy happens with this 2 chars in any team:Quote:
Originally Posted by maxdeviations
Red Troll and Prisoner in same line. Attack or Defense, almost unbeatable in both situations. Even you get the first turn and have a Red Troll, you can't have the shield because of Prisoner's passive + and when you attack you get true damage back because of the Troll's shield. Worst thing is harder you hit, you get harder damage back, it doesn't matter how many heavy hitters you have. Your team's HP goes down to halfway, now guess what? It's time for defence team's turn:
After just one strong punch from Red Troll, you will be looking to shiny "DEFEAT" text with tears in your eyes. But don't jump of a rooftop! :cool:
Ha, nice battle recap.Quote:
Originally Posted by osiris0000
there are workarounds, but i expect the devs to bring in more balance soon. don't agree with the OPness of CG he's damn strong, but def not OP anymore, since he is pretty easy to counter with some specific characters. i have to say, that the most chars seem to be in balance, but some tweaks are needed for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by osiris0000
EK :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleknight
For you probably not - but for me there's some kind of problem - wake up and saw being #45 and knowing that I can't revenge all having this what I have for now... Well... We all must not sleep then LOL - I've been first once for some time, yet I played all night long... Sad thing that at some point gave up and went to bed... when I woke up and checked was #20 LOL... But at least I've made a screenshot of this heroic achievement done LOL
Nicko :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
Look, who's talking LOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
slauki :)
Sure there are... Having The Prisoner for yourself, right? ;)
Cheers,
W
Finally a taste of this. I managed to be in top 50 for the last 24h. So far, spend 2 refills, cuz I really loved playing this.
But I agree. Whoever strikes first can get a win without be damaged. I included. I loop some extra turns and freezes, plus GR or timely Stuns from Smokie.
But got some really awesome and close battles that pasts the first-win-lose round.
I think Gunner CotD, Energy Talismans and like are more attractive now. Freezes and stun, with Accuracy buff, are arguably OP.
But I'm in love with PvP already. All weeks getting Toons to diversify are paid off.
Hey - I drop as much as anyone as the Europeans attack us in our sleep!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witkacy
We just get our revenge the next day ;)
Prisoners are useless against CGs - they get frozen and stunned just like everyone else!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witkacy
prisoner won't help you much vs. corrupt general, when he is stunned ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Witkacy
The changes to PVP beta in today's update are moving things in the right direction.