Ok, I originally misunderstood the question, so I deleted my post, but this may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beddie
This screenshot shows "enemy" Shadow Ed has Avenger(Revenge) & Power talis.
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The Witch seems to get Invisibility and Critical hit chance, so I'm thinking Shadow talis.
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I actually dunno, if anybody has already posted the following team because there are so many posts within this thread in the meanwhile.
After using bakuras team about 100 times (but with a slightly change), I recognized that not having shadow-wickerEd and using wickerEd instead caused about 10% losses in autoplay because of the missing shadow’s passive. So I tried to figure out what to do against the permanent burning effects and other debuffs especially in the boss wave.
I used Ragna instead of Maclo because of her passive. Didn’t work out either and I also changed wickerEd to Bregg for is fury to revive. I lost more than before - nearly every fight.
As I got S.Hierophant I tried him wearing Banners (Onslaught+Sustaining). No more losses. Ok, one run can take 3 min. but it’s totally safe. Just 60 more runs and I’ll get shadow-wickerEd. So it’s about 49 runs per key. Than I change back to bakuras Orginal team. Thx buddy 🤘🏻.
So this is my actual team:
- wickerEd (celestials+cosmic)
- M.Crimean (sustaining+inspiration+warlord)
- S.Hiero (banners+sustaining)
- M.DerbyD (vipers+cosmic)
Thanks Bakura
Some of the pics are old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caesar815
Somewhere in this thread are more updated team suggestions.
I already got the Wicker Evolved toons, so suggestions may differ according to your goals.
Soccer/Football Ed works best!
M. Crimean- inspiration/sustain/cosmic/purple
S. Maclo bot- greed/cosmic/purple
M. Derby Demon-Vipers/cosmic
This should work. I normally use the Wicker Evolved Wolf & Owl instead of Maclo & Derby.
The Football Ed is the key.
Good Luck Trooper!
Btw,...Thanks for the B-day post!
Here's a list for the awakening requirements for current & upcoming "Awakenable" characters.
Thanks Durandal!
(on mobile, press and hold image for the option to download)
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First! ... to reply to this thread since the debut of Ragnarock Tailman Sets.
It's here, ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls. Grandchildren and grandpas: the next status-quo-breaking, meta-defining power-trip. Like Forge before it, I will be looking for ways to work Ragnarock into my Arena, Gauntlet, and Story teams. Because the truth is, no single Toon is required to succeed in any aspect of Legacy of the Beast. Talis are everything, and every Toon with Red slots just became a lot more relevant.
Or at least, Ragnarock wrecks Raven's Alter.
B.R. (Before Ragnarock)... and Before Shadow Wicker Man Eddie... and before I sent in a Sticky and the actually pretty responsive and great customer service team here fixed Jacob, Ghost of for me, I was struggling to clear 2min with a Marco-less team. Shadow Wicker Man himself was giving me trouble (doom, I wasn't killing him fast enough), so I had to resort to Pyro Soldier with a Trooper set so I wouldn't get burned (pun intended). I could mostly auto at that point, with my average run time a bit above the 2min mark and some losses and draws thrown in when I wasn't babysitting. Not Ideal!
Shadow Wicker Man immediately stopped my losses. I was using Ghost of Christmas Giving with Warlords instead of Inspiration Tailismen (... which I thought was pretty clever, thank you...), and had to throw in a Blocker to make sure Raven Witch didn't wipe me (I don't have Orbits), but and then with the addition of a fixed Jacob I could auto without loses in an average time of just under 1:30 (1:05 fast). That's still not quite boast-worthy.
(The way I set up Jacob I thought was very clever, though. So I'll tell you: if you use him on Auto, you've got to set Blight. His Power ability is useless for damage and chaining attacks. But Blight/Warlord/Sustaining is a magical thing.)
A.R. (After Ragnarock), my blocker unit became obsolete. And so did Ghost of Christmas Giving, though I kept him in my team. Ragnarock alleviates the need to run Inspiration effects... because Raven Witch never gets Ghosty. And it plays defense. I still found an Alchemy set useful, because I want Perfect Corruption cleared before I try to make Warlords work. But... I ran 75 runs on one key, I checked my e-mail and renewed some items from the library in the middle, and I wasted some key time playing around with my units. The team I used wasn't even optimized.
In summary:
B.R. (optimized team, all Talisman and Characters participating in/ensuring the win): Best 1:05, Average ~1:30-1:40
A.R. (not-optimized): Best: 46 seconds, Average < 1min. (57-59 seconds)
My team was as follows:
Jacob (Warlord/Blight/Sustaining)
Shadow Wicker Man Ed (Alchemy/Cosmic)
Ghost of Christmas Giving*
Wicker Wolf Evolved (Ragnarock/Cosmic)
*Talis Not Relevant, b/c Ghost does not participate in battle in any of the fastest runs.
As you can see, all you need to complete Raven's Alter at this juncture is a hard-hitting Multi-Target Damager and a Ragnarock set. If you make your Multi-Target Damager your Eddie, or make better use of the Ghost spot (with units and/or Talis), I'm 100% positive you can improve upon my numbers. I'm willing to wager 100 runs on 1 key is not out of the question with a truly optimized team, a good connection, and no interruptions (1min average after restart would get you to 120, right?).
Good luck.
The time doesnt include loading time, reward drops and any lags.
Right. That’s why I qualified my statement three times.
2Hrs is 120Mins. If I really thought you could dodge the reward, load, and lag, I would have guesstimated a number > 120 with an average runtime < 1 min. So, the load counts down from 3. The lag “with a good connection” could be similar. The rewards come and go pretty fast. Altogether, if you’re lucky, you might be looking at ten seconds or so.
I’ve already done 75 runs on one key, with distractions and a team that was not 100% thought out. I maintain if one improved on my methods and hit my low runtime as an average, one could hit 100 runs (i.e., a whole achievement) with just one key.
Update: Played this dungeon again without Ghost of Christmas Giving, and I think I outsmarted myself. I thought Ghost didn't matter (because he didn't participate in battle and his Talis lent nothing to the team). I forgot about his passive.
It's a small point, but disallowing Power and Fury skills in the first round of battle stops some extra-turn taking and opponent animation. These things did nothing to slow me down... except slow me down, watching them happen.
I plugged S. Onyx Son into Ghost's spot, switched Celestials over to Shadow Wicker Man, and put Alchemy on Son. Then I figured out that my Characters never get Perfect Corruption (because damage isn't dealt?) with Celestials, so Alchemy was redundant. No matter, because my plan was to sub Wicker Owl Evolved in for Onyx Son when I got him (with the dungeon running).
It turns out, even though Onyx Son amps magic and grants magic penetration, my Jacob, Ghost of didn't really need to be amped. So Onyx Son and Owl were about equally effective. Here was my new schema:
Shadow Wicker Man (Celestial, Cosmic)
Ghost of Jacob Marley (Blight, Warlord, T3 Purple Ascension, Random Purple)
Onyx Son/Owl (Alchemy)
Wicker Wolf Evolved (Ragnarock)
With this team, I was possibly more consistent than with Ghost, but my average and fastest times dipped a bit. My fastest (that I noticed, I didn't watch every run) dropped to 48 sec. and my average to about 1:01-1:03. With a bit of watching, interruption, and evolving and re-equipping Talis (Son to Owl, to keep achievements rolling), I once again managed (exactly... I can't make this sh*t up) 75 runs.
There is room for improvement! Celestials are straight better than Alchemy if you plan to win in one turn, leaving one of my units redundant. Celestials could go on a support unit (position 3 or 4) to make room for a different Eddie. An Eddie wearing Blights could be your hammer (instead of Ghost), reducing the average number of actions your side would need to take in order to get the victory. And Ghost of Christmas Giving could even sub back in as support (position #2?), possibly also wearing blights... although his Power Ability is useful... in order to cut down a second or two or three in rounds 3 and 5 when your opponent attacks first. I considered that in addition to Onyx Son wearing Celestial, you could use W. Werewolf wearing Ragnarock if your team needs just a little extra punch.
BUT... having said all of that ^^, I'm less confident than I was before that 100 runs could be achieved on one Key. I'll have to keep experimenting.
I’m now using:
- Football Ed (Valhalla & cosmic)
- max. evolved ww (Ragnaroks & cosmic)
- derby demon (vipers & cosmic)
- m mino (Starfire)
Auto 100%, avg. 50 secs, best: 42 secs ✅
🤘🏻
As part of the current event, I finally popped my first Raven's Altar key. Despite having read through all of this, it was still more difficult than I was expecting from a 4* dungeon. Surprised but how much HP some of the enemies had been given. Thankfully still managed some reasonable times though, and didn't have any defeats (although came clsoe as I'd forgoten to give my Eddie a cosmic for the first 20 runs!). The Raven Witch herself was the most inconsistent wave, could easily add almost 30s to some of the runs.
This team has an average 1:10 run time:
Green Soccer Eddie - Valhalla/Future Cosmic
Red Ghost - Forge/Cosmic (high damage stats)
Green Spirit Dog - Starfires
Red Shinobi - Ragnarok/Shinobi Cosmic
Was nice to discover the Shadow Wickerman counted as a boss too, so we didn't need to worry about having to kill the Ferryman too.
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Free Ironite - 150
Use this code:
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I've found a new bug: Bakura Jomviking endless free ironite posting on the forums- once he starts a task, he makes sure it gets done!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
:)
Thanks for caring!
Hahaha.... no prob.Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
I appreciate everyone who posts in my dungeon threads, so I try to make sure no one misses a great gift like FREE IRONITE.
Me posting in all these threads is like Paul Revere riding through the town ringing a bell warning the people... "Free ironite is coming, free ironite is coming!"
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For the achievement ALL wicker-toons must be maxed evolved, right?
"200 times with every max evolved wicker-toon"
Is green soccer Eddie better than Magus wicker Eddie?
Yes, But UNLIKE the other dungeons, If you run more than one max awakened wicker character in this dungeon that achievement counts EACH awakened character.Quote:
Originally Posted by URock
I ran each to get the character associated, then waited to awaken them all.. then ran that last one.. which only took 1/3 the runs using multiple awakened wicker characters.
Note 2 Max Awakened Lucifers do NOT register twice for his (cosmic dungeon) achievement... so, I haven't bothered trying others, Like Lilith for the cosmic dungeon. I haven't tried 2 Lucifers in the Samurai dungeon yet... And all this maybe because it's the same character so it doesn't see it as 2 runs.
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I've adjusted recently....
Ghost of Xmas Giving (Tranquility/Sustaining/Warlord)
Phantom Ed (Starfire)
Wickerman - 4 purple stars (Ragnarok/Cosmic Def +15%)
W Onyx Son (Viper/Cosmic Echo)
Averaging around 1min runs. Max time was about 1:30 I think. Best 54 sec
Playing with the slot holding the Ghost... Tried M Werewolf and S Onyx.. same relative times.. so it's just a matter of finding that 4th character/talisman set that speeds things up a tad more.
(and yes, still crashes every 3-5 runs)
S Football Eddie - Valhalla
Max Wicker Wolf Evolved - Ragnarok
Max Wicker Man - Viper
S Spirit Dog - Starfire
Average ~55s
I am using:
Mexico Eddie (Valhalla and Cosmic)
Maxed Wicker Wolf (Ragnarock and Cosmic)
Near Maxed Wickerman (Viper and Cosmic)
Magus Mino (Starfire)
Cant remember which cosmic I used but both were high attack and has special - defo one is Echo and I think one is Immunity...Mexico is likely HP/atk/mag.
Best is 34 seconds and averaging around 45-50 I think) - got 78 runs for first key but I did do a few swaps in and out on that at the beginning so maybe over 80 runs would be about right. I did have the other Wicker dudes in their to start and then tried Magus Wolf and a Ghost but went back to this one as it seemed to be fastest and gave me that fastest run too.
Onto 2nd key now and will see how that goes uninterrupted.
Cheers
Are runs counting OK your you guys??
I've used a key, around 800 SoT, averaging 1'20'' runs, and the achievements only show 20 runs completed.
I guess this is a bug, be alert.
It's a repeatable achievement. Check the little number in the upper right corner, if it's staying at 0 you're getting a bug. Odds are that everything is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartman9999
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Originally Posted by URock
What are you guys talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
On Android it says "any" not "every."
But yes, if you use multiple Maxed toons it should count as multiple runs per run.
Yesterday I did all the Gangland achievements. What should have been 500 runs total, was actually 250 because I used 2 gangland Eds, at least for half of it.
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My current Raven's Alter grind team is:
100% Wins... full health.
Best time: 0:49
Avg. 1:05
>Soccer Ed- Inspiration/Sacred/Green/Cosmic w/special
>Wickerman lvl. 7- Ragnarok/Cosmic
>Wicker Wolf Evolved lvl. 8- Vipers/Cosmic
>Wicker Owl Evolved lvl. 8- Alchemy/Cosmic
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I used W. Ghost and had nearly identical average times, but the fastest was w/ the above team.
Also, no crashing on Android.
I imagine the Grimoir frags will be rewarded in other challenges later this month, cuz grinding this dungeon for frags is NOT cheap on ironite.
Bakura.. using 2 Maxed Lucifers doesn't count as 2 for his achievements I've tried..
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Originally Posted by Yup
Yup congrats on top Gauntlet this run, I am stuck at battle 102. Looks like Jomsvikings takes the prize AGAIN
Sentinel Football Eddie - Primordials
Wicker Owl Evolved (Max'd) - Gravity, Avenger, Cosmic
Wicker Wolf Evolved (Max'd) - Ragnarok, Cosmic
Wicker Ox Evolved (Max'd) - Impulse
My fastest is 35s (Max'd relics). Someone else who is using it said they've gotten 28s.
Thanks. I had a shit-ton of losses in SS against that ONl team with Dark Clairvoyant.. but not a single loss in 3 rounds of SSS. I got VERY lucky. I'm honestly not sure how I got past that Thor battle :)Quote:
Originally Posted by edsel
Ah..... good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
I guess like anything in this game, there's really no definite consistency.
This was my "bouncer" team for SSS.
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Congratulations fellow JomsViking... Yup!
Gauntlet Winner! ... and proud owner of the NEW Mercenary toon.
Congrats to clansman Edsel for 4th!
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Premature :) There's still 40 minutes :) Chicken.. hatch.. y'know....
The prophecy came true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Check it out:
https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/s...agments!/page5
Giving you guys a shout out in the Gauntlet thread!
Thanks for representing guys!
Is there a team that can clear this WITHOUT wolf, owl, wickerman? Those, of course, are the ones I'm missing cuz I can't seem to clear this bloody altar! :( I spent three keys yesterday trying to come up with something but I keep getting my heart torn out. I started with the line-up in the cheat sheet, and some of the line-ups in this thread, but no luck.
Any help, mates, would be GREATLY appreciated!
Here are a couple of standard teams used to earn the Achievements:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tengu316
Football Eddie (Sentinel) - Primordial
Wickerman Eddie (backseat)
Shadow Wickerman Eddie (backseat)
Sentinel Troll - Greed/Inspiration
Sentinel Onyx Son - Singularity
Warrior Hierophant - Celestial/Cosmic
Shadow Wicker Man Ed - Alchemy/Cosmic
Sentinel Troll - Greed/Inspiration
Sentinel Onyx Son - Singularity
Magus Derby Demon - Vipers/Cosmic
Tengu, What talismans do you have on hand? That makes more of a difference than specific characters. Having sets like Celestial, Ragnarok, Starfire, Alchemy, Redemption will help a great deal.
@Yup, I've got all of those, thankfully. Also things like Eternity, Eclipse, Brave, and Frontier but don't have the latest from the last couple of weeks (the Norse-based ones).
Okay.. you can....
Any football Eddie... seriously any of them.. and Put Primordials on him if you have those, or lightbringer
Any character capable of wearing Ragnaroks
Any character capable of wearing Starfires
Any character that heals the team (or has sustaining talismans for a multi-target hitter) [xmas ghost of giving is good here] or any character that can wear vipers if you have those
Other things to look for, if given a choice pick characters that heal or grant buffs like Endure or immortality by default - i.e. the S Hierophant if possible. And choose characters that are multi-hitters as opposed to single-hitters if possible.
You CAN run this with only Onyx Sons and practically any Ed available I've auto-run it with...
M Onyx (Celestial),
S Onyx (Orbit),
W Onyx (Ragnarok),
Guy Fawes Ed (Can't remember talismans but nothing special)
also auto-ran it with
Phanton Ed (Starfires)
Wickerman (Ragnorok) - could be replaced with a different Ragnarok wearer
S Onyx (Orbit),
W Onyx (Vipers)
The W Onyx Son will wipe out entire teams quickly - it hits pretty hard.. so vipers on him causes counter attacks, which helps.
Of course, all this is based on MY relics.. and all my characters have full skill shards....those may make a difference.
It's really more about the talismans than the characters.....
- Ragnaroks will remove all the yellow buffs enemies get by default
- Starfires will reflect damage often killing enemies when they attack
- Vipers and Primordials will inflict debuffs on enemies to prevent them from gaining buffs or hitting at full strength
- Orbits will boost HP of your team and heal each turn.
- Celestials will block all damage the first turn ensuring you get to at least attack once -- Note that Celestials + Starfires on the same team is always a mistake. Never use Celestials and Starfires in combination, it defeats the general purpose of the Starfires.
Thanks, @Fudjo! Unfortunately, in those line-ups, I'm missing SWME and, of course, the Greed talis. Tried replacing those in other build without much success. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudjo
As with some of my dungeon guides, alot of them have older character teams on Page 1.
Please remember to always check there also.
The original team I used to get the Wicker Evolved Owl, Wolf & Ox, has pretty basic toons.
https://forum.ironmaidenlegacy.com/s...s-Achievements
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Football Eddie & Benjamin Breeg Ed are alternatives if you don't have Magus Shadow Wicker Ed.
Good Luck!
Today is really the first time I've ever beaten this dungeon and it is due to the fine folks in this group and their suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tengu316
The team I have assembled isn't as fast since I don't have some of the characters or tali's yet but this team is averaging 1:20 - 1:50 for me. Also, I haven't suffered a single loss in nearly 300 rounds now and have never had a character fail to finish the match:
Shadow Wicker Man Eddie (Alchemy / Cosmic)
Wicker Man Eddie (passenger spot for the achievement)
Warrior Wicker Man (2-star awakened with Ragnarok / Cosmic)
Magus Werewolf (Yggdrasil)
Ghost of Christmas Giving (Nightmare / Ruin / Cosmic)
All tali's are maxed/fully evolved. Shadow Wicker Man, Wicker Man and Christmas Giving are all fully sharded. Werewolf is one shard from being fully sharded.
Congrats jstrickPhoto!
Thanks - just about burned through the second Wicker Man achievement so I can get the first wicker evolved character. I have a lot of the good, powerhouse characters but I lack some of the early talis as I didn't start playing until about 6-9 months after the game came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Congratulations!Quote:
Originally Posted by jstrickPhoto
Thanks for your feedback and team suggestion.
That Magus Werewolf w/ Yggdrasil sounds like a good choice.
I think I have really underrated that toon up until now.
You know - that magus werewolf character kept kicking my butt in the Arena. And the earlier help/hints for the Raven's Altar Dungeon mentioned needing a multi-hitter. Since his slots were green, I figured why not give the Yggdrasil a shot. Instant success!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
Everyone in this group is awesome for sharing tips, techniques and strategies.