Cyborg Monday (Dungeon) - Trade Cyborg Fragments for Bounty Hunter Eddie!

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11-30-2019, 07:46 AM
Azagthor

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Originally Posted by Leviathan

We will be extending this event for an additional 5 days, as well as increasing the Cyborg Fragment drop rate in Madness (from 8 -> 10) and Insanity (from 15 -> 25). We plan to push these changes in a server update later today.

The increased event duration is most welcome. Little concerned the team thought a week was appropriate to begin with though.
The increased drop rates in the higher levels are also welcome, although it doesn't do much to help new/middle players.

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Originally Posted by DeathDealer-5301

I'm gonna have to break down and get killer prime. sentinel onyx son

Was just thinking the same thing, it's about time I pulled the trigger and purchased KP! What do you have on your Sentinel Onyx Son, Singularities? I still use that combination in most of my teams.

Well now we're back to working out new teams for Insanity, reposting this from my thread over here (which also has one for Madness). This might help out with some theory crafting. Nice to see a bunch of team suggestions floating around. Looking at the talismans the enemies are wearing, all those Light talis make Permadeath seems like it's the key to a couple of the fights? What else does a team 'need'?

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11-30-2019, 10:10 AM
raka71

so far it's stable, no internet issues. probably as soon as I put my phone down and go do something, an irritating picture will appear. Saigrim's team is doing fine. there is no defeat
11-30-2019, 10:33 AM
Rain88

Was considering going for this ridiculous frag requirements but it seems like ironite rewards (10-15) is not dropping so I'm going to skip.
Anyone getting any other than the standard dungeon drop (1-2)?
11-30-2019, 12:23 PM
george-2964

Connection seems stable-ish today...
My fastest team so far is:
Gambler (Banner/Warlord)
Lucy (Max awakened) (Fallen/sacred)
A Warewolf (Quantum)
Killer Prime (Greed/Warlord, but he works even without talis, as for the first tries I forgot to equip any)

Best time 0.58
Avg around 1.20

I know this is kinda high-end and I have all relics, but I thought I'd chip in
11-30-2019, 12:27 PM
Storm

In the last two SOT megarefills the game have stolen me ironites. Last time I had 1288 ironites, after the mega refill I had 1040. That's more than 150 ironites. Two times stealing me ironites. Now I'm afraid to refill again. 😡😠😠 Anyone else has this problem?
11-30-2019, 01:14 PM
Bakura

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This team is the most stable and the quickest.
Once I switched W. LoL for M. LoL w/ singularity, Wrathchild's marks are not a problem for Van Helsing w/ Labs.

Best time is 1:27 Insanity Auto 100%
Avg. on Auto is 1:45

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VHE-Labs/Cosmic T3
A. Werewolf-yin yang
M.LoL max-Singularity
KP- Greed/Warlords

I tried some of the other teams but they either were much slower times or unstable (Defeats.)
I'm settled on this team.
11-30-2019, 01:39 PM
Yup

"Immune to sleep" does NOT work....
11-30-2019, 02:58 PM
Phoenix-7282

The servers are a lot more stable since 12 hours. Glad to see that the devs are working on the issue...
11-30-2019, 03:36 PM
DeathDealer-5301

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Originally Posted by Azagthor

Was just thinking the same thing, it's about time I pulled the trigger and purchased KP! What do you have on your Sentinel Onyx Son, Singularities? I still use that combination in most .]

Yes, tried a dozen other things for this char slot and Onyx son with singularity seems the best overall. none of my attempts to clear the second wave faster worked, and besides the boss that the one that takes me the longest.
11-30-2019, 04:00 PM
real_schweiger

So, the update seems to do its job. I did several refills today without any connection probs. The Cashback of ironite is... not the best at all. Sometimes it get´s close to the price of a refill (I did not use a megarefill so far), sometimes there is a win of maybe 4-5 ironite per refill. Each run (insanity) leaves 25 frags, sometimes more (I think I´ve seen 36 as well), so it seems that the ultragoal could be in reach after 10 days.

My team did not lose any round but it seems it is a bit slower - but well, as far as I am running through without any server problems I can cope with it.
So far this event is far away to be the best or even a really good one, with the update we surely know, it could have been worse ;)

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Originally Posted by DeathDealer-5301

Yes, tried a dozen other things for this char slot and Onyx son with singularity seems the best overall. none of my attempts to clear the second wave faster worked, and besides the boss that the one that takes me the longest.

I went ahead and bought Killer Prime, and he makes so much difference? Went from barely being able to beat Insanity on manual,to a 3-4min auto. Only had one loss so far. Might actually be able to get the awakening materials and the T1 cosmic now!

This is mid-range-ish team. It's not great, and uses a few event-exclusive talismans/characters, but should be a decent starting point to help people with their own team building. Have included my reasoning. As long as you can deal with Perfect Immunity and Perfect Immortality, you should be ok.

Flight of Icarus Eddie Lantern, Warlord, Cosmic My strongest Eddie, capable of dealing huge amounts of multi-hit damage when Warlord triggers. Can cleanse and remove damage shields

The Killer Prime Persecution, Shell, Cosmic His permadeath passive helps deal with the Light talismans, and Bloodlust from his basic helps trigger my Warlords. He hits like a wet noodle beacuse I don't have any good talismans for him yet, but his job is to stay alive and debuff the enemy.

6* Warrior LoL Orbits Awakening his first level turns his basic attack into an AOE that removes Perfect Immunity, which a lot of enemies in here have. The Orbits help him cleanse your team and purge the enemy's buffs. The Orbits also mean the final Cyborg boss can't really damage you, as all he does is true damage.

Sentinel Onyx Son Singularity Gives everyon an Accuracy Up buff (super good with LoL's Extra Turn change), removes enemy buffs, revives fallen allies, and with Singularities, he will continually steal the shields the boss Cyborg gains every turn.

(but now i can actually do the dungeon... the loot drops kinda suck hey? other than the fragments, it's very rare for anything worthwhile to drop. like why would i want some colourless xp shards? is that normal for event dungeons?)

11-30-2019, 05:55 PM
mk ultra

Hi!
This is the fastest team for Insanity
1. Van Helsing - Labyrinth, any cosmic (works with any sets)
2. Nightmoon Lilith - Serenity & Mark (works with any sets)
3. Assasin Werewolf - Forge & Echo cosmic
4. Killer Prime - Penance, Warlord & Sustaining (works with any sets)

Did ~150 runs, 100% win rate.
Fastest is 50 seconds, slowest that i seen was 1:50. Usually it takes 1:10 - 1:20 per run.

I seen above a lot of setups with Singularity. You don't need Singularity set in this dungeon, as you don't get enough damage for any toon to die.
Also, the Forge talismans will help if something bad happens.

hope it helps!
11-30-2019, 06:03 PM
DeathDealer-5301

Which class is nightmoon Lilith?

Also, what have peeps been running for the madness warrior challenge? I have Alex and unawakened lol, wolf, Minotaur, hierophant and a few others but can't seem to get a good combo that works. Have most talisman sets but not all maxed.
11-30-2019, 06:29 PM
Beddie

Night moon is an Assassin

I did the mission with
Football Eddie- Primordials
Warrior Lol (twice awakened) - Vipers and Blind Cosmic
Minotaur - Persecutions Sustaining Death Mark Cosmic
Savage Reaper - Trooper Talismans and Cosmic

(I owe Stormseye a drink)
11-30-2019, 07:10 PM
SamFisher3000

Bakura's insanity auto team is great if you have immunity cosmic on Van Helsing. It is somewhat faster if you use Eternal Champ with starfires instead.
11-30-2019, 07:28 PM
Maiden

I did Insanity Challenge Magus with

Football Eddie (Argentina) Light + Cosmic
Inugami Dog Spirit Banner + Sustaing
WW Eternal
Madam Singularity

thanks to everybody from the suggested teams, I took a little of everyone and it worked right away. I was only fighting against server lag and freezes, they made me quit by force from time time.
11-30-2019, 08:59 PM
Beddie

Devs I appreciate the fixes made to the dungeons but a new problem has come about, for whatever reason, during some auto-runs all the characters just stand still. No one attacks and the game is basically frozen.
11-30-2019, 09:11 PM
Ydex

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Originally Posted by Beddie

Devs I appreciate the fixes made to the dungeons but a new problem has come about, for whatever reason, during some auto-runs all the characters just stand still. No one attacks and the game is basically frozen.

This has happened to me three times. Once on emulator, twice on phone. ALL in cyborg dungeon on Auto.
11-30-2019, 09:23 PM
Ydex

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Originally Posted by Azagthor

...
I went ahead and bought Killer Prime, and he makes so much difference? Went from barely being able to beat Insanity on manual,to a 3-4min auto. Only had one loss so far. Might actually be able to get the awakening materials and the T1 cosmic now!
...

I'm saving coins for KP. Good to hear this feedback. What Talisman slots does he have?

(#1 missing feature in the Compendium)

(#2 is effects cross-referenced to Talismans)
11-30-2019, 09:26 PM
Bartman9999

3 months playing, I'm missing many OP toons, and most talisman sets were inaccessible to me until recently... but I've been running auto insanity with 99% success with:

Alex Ed - viper / cosmic
K Prime - warlord / energy / cosmic
M Minotaur - forge / cosmic (forge tails only 3*, cant find 1* purple evo runes)
G Minotaur - Yin / Yang
11-30-2019, 09:29 PM
Beddie

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Originally Posted by Ydex

I'm saving coins for KP. Good to hear this feedback. What Talisman slots does he have?

(#1 missing feature in the Compendium)

(#2 is effects cross-referenced to Talismans)

He has 2 green and 1 purple slot

The meta combo is Greed and Warlords

He is also a top tier ally
11-30-2019, 09:31 PM
Beddie

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Originally Posted by Ydex

This has happened to me three times. Once on emulator, twice on phone. ALL in cyborg dungeon on Auto.

It always happens in the 2nd level of Insanity (child of the damned and the two choppers)
11-30-2019, 09:43 PM
DeathDealer-5301

I've died a couple times on insanity, but it only happens when I don't have enough SoT to play another round anyways. Coincidence or an error? I'll let it run out again soon and see, but if anyone is seeing the same let me know.
11-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Hartacus

225 runs deep and so far 1 primordial. Thats <0.5% drop rate which, as it stands, means for the ~1,000 runs it takes to get Eddie, I'm still not gonna get a full set. Time to cut losses I reckon
11-30-2019, 09:51 PM
Beddie

Madness in the Virus Dungeon is bound to drop at least 1 Primordial per key (you also get a few inspirations for your troubles)
11-30-2019, 10:02 PM
DeathDealer-5301

Airstrip drops primoridal too. Not sure of the rate but had a full set before finishing the challenge.
11-30-2019, 10:37 PM
Beddie

You sure your not thinking of Radiants?
12-01-2019, 12:19 AM
Hartacus

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Originally Posted by Beddie

Madness in the Virus Dungeon is bound to drop at least 1 Primordial per key (you also get a few inspirations for your troubles)

Didn't know that. So far behind with permanent dungeons its silly. Haven't finished a single achievement for any of them
12-01-2019, 12:33 AM
DeathDealer-5301

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Originally Posted by Beddie

You sure your not thinking of Radiants?

Positive, the cheatsheet list prime and radiant but I was just running it a few days ago. Also someone sent me a link to a balancing update listing the change a while back.
12-01-2019, 05:05 AM
Azagthor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beddie

Devs I appreciate the fixes made to the dungeons but a new problem has come about, for whatever reason, during some auto-runs all the characters just stand still. No one attacks and the game is basically frozen.
It always happens in the 2nd level of Insanity (child of the damned and the two choppers)

I've had it happen a couple of times during the Cyborg boss fight. Just froze, although when I hit the buttons to Exit the fight, whatever current attack/effect/etc is buffering/calculating/freezing happens and one last lot of healing/damage happens before the defeat screen arrives. Not sure if it's related, but both times I've had the freeze at Cyborg, two of my allies were also dead.

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Originally Posted by Ydex

I'm saving coins for KP. Good to hear this feedback. What Talisman slots does he have?
(#1 missing feature in the Compendium)
(#2 is effects cross-referenced to Talismans)

(#3 is effects cross-references to Character Passive Abilities)

Would be wonderful to have talisman slots displayed in the Compendium. It's a wonderful resource, rather easy to link to, and eager to see further improvements to it!

KP is as good as everyone says. I'd assumed he dealt more damage, but that's likely due to my lack of good leveled talismans, or could be dungeon specific.

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Originally Posted by Hartacus

225 runs deep and so far 1 primordial. Thats <0.5% drop rate which, as it stands, means for the ~1,000 runs it takes to get Eddie, I'm still not gonna get a full set. Time to cut losses I reckon

RNG has not been kind to you, or it's been unusually kind to me. I've had 4 drops and I've done around 100 Insanity runs.

Had a couple of Catalyst Souls drop too. Has anyone had anything not on the Rewards list drop for them?

I'm starting to think working towards the T2 instead of the T1 might be possible with the updated drops and time-limit... It's only an extra 100 runs between the two... but then you might as well do another 200 to get the T3? AND that's how the game gets its hooks in you!
12-01-2019, 10:53 AM
ritchbe

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Originally Posted by Hartacus

225 runs deep and so far 1 primordial. Thats <0.5% drop rate which, as it stands, means for the ~1,000 runs it takes to get Eddie, I'm still not gonna get a full set. Time to cut losses I reckon

305 runs deep and also a single Primordial.

At least they upped the fragments drop for insanity to 25 and ironite return is good- anyone did some stats on that?
12-01-2019, 11:11 AM
Muzzleloader

There are other dungeons with better drops of primordials. From past events you may pull a full set in a few hundred battles and pull only a few in 1200 battles. In at depends on the whims of the RNG gods.

I'm not getting that good of ironite drops, maybe 10 per normal refill.
12-01-2019, 12:01 PM
InkieSquid

So I'm really struggling to get any Warrior team through Madness, let alone on Auto. My main problem seems to be that my Warrior eddies all suck - I only have Clansman, Eddie, Phantom, RttH, Samurai and Shaman.

I have a fair selection of tali's to choose from if I can only find the right team to send in for the achievement. I've got plenty of Skill Shards from the last frontier key event thankfully so I can max out anything that's not already skilled up, I also have a whole ton of Frontier Coins as well as about 9k of the pvp variant so I can possibly supplement my team with anything that's missing and important (or indeed essential) as far as characters and tali's is concerned.

Apparently people can see my lineup of available characters using my ID so, if you are able to help it's InkieSquid-4027.

Any and all tips are appreciated, thanks.
12-01-2019, 12:01 PM
SinGularity-8786

For me the higher fragment-droprate changed nothing because my ironite-return got massively reduced (from ~45% to less than 10%).
Before the changes my Ironite : Fragment ratio was 1 : 10. (3 Megarefills)
Yesterday and today it fell to 1 : 9. (2x3 Megarefills)
12-01-2019, 12:40 PM
Azagthor

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Originally Posted by InkieSquid

So I'm really struggling to get any Warrior team through Madness, let alone on Auto. My main problem seems to be that my Warrior eddies all suck - I only have Clansman, Eddie, Phantom, RttH, Samurai and Shaman.

I have a fair selection of tali's to choose from if I can only find the right team to send in for the achievement. I've got plenty of Skill Shards from the last frontier key event thankfully so I can max out anything that's not already skilled up, I also have a whole ton of Frontier Coins as well as about 9k of the pvp variant so I can possibly supplement my team with anything that's missing and important (or indeed essential) as far as characters and tali's is concerned.

Apparently people can see my lineup of available characters using my ID so, if you are able to help it's InkieSquid-4027.

Taking a look now, you have a lot of stuff!

Your Shaman Eddie is already wearing Forge Talismans, those are very good here. They should help keep your team alive, and their Permadeath effect is always welcome. You could put them onto Phantom Eddie, as his Future Basic move and Fury can put enemies to sleep.
W LoL is an obvious choice, his basic removes Immunity, and can hit hard. I couldn't find a set of Orbits, but Vipers (on your Musashi currently) + Cosmic should work well on him too.
W Hierophant could be a good choice, as he can wear Singularities. Being able to steal Angel Eddie's Perfect Heal Shield in the 3rd wave will speed things up.
Red Shinobi is one of the characters I used, wearing Vipers. Her power move Blinds which can help keep you alive, and with counter attacks from Vipers, she can hit real hard due to her passive. Giving her Counterstrike (on your Red Lilith) would work well.

Best of luck!
12-01-2019, 01:16 PM
URock

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Originally Posted by Bakura

This team is the most stable and the quickest.
VHE-Labs/Cosmic T3
A. Werewolf-yin yang
M.LoL max-Singularity
KP- Greed/Warlords

I tried some of the other teams but they either were much slower times or unstable (Defeats.)
I'm settled on this team.

Sometimes my team got killed. Now I try an Immunity Cosmic on Van Helsing. I got no Labyrinth so I use Forge. Maby this will be 100% safe on autorun...

Van Helsiung Eddie(Forge+Immunity Cosmic)
W LOL maxed (Orbit)
Killer Prime (Ruin+Reaper)
A Werwolf (Reaper+Gravity)
12-01-2019, 01:18 PM
Symbiote

This "Game" is just a bypassing thing in my daily tasks since months.., because it sucks more and more with these Events over Events and grinding Bullshit..,
25.000 fucking frags? Yeah, sorry, i have a real life..,

Because of this crap, i not motivated to play sometimes more than 3-6 days or more.., i just start it and quit it because it just sucks..,

I mean, i still like this game, but not what they are doing with it.., it's to much to do and still the same over and over again.., this isn't real fun. :D

25k frags.., ahahahahahaaaahaaah.., go fu..,
12-01-2019, 02:09 PM
Muzzleloader

I was thinking about going for Ed l, but with the terrible ironite/SoT drop I may stop at the T3 and pyramids. It doesn't look like they are going to postpone any of Decembers event so there may be an overlap. Using my average of 10 ironite return per refill Ed will cost 1600 ironite and may hours.
12-01-2019, 03:28 PM
Bakura

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Originally Posted by URock

Sometimes my team got killed. Now I try an Immunity Cosmic on Van Helsing. I got no Labyrinth so I use Forge. Maby this will be 100% safe on autorun...

Van Helsiung Eddie(Forge+Immunity Cosmic)
W LOL maxed (Orbit)
Killer Prime (Ruin+Reaper)
A Werwolf (Reaper+Gravity)

The Labyrinth on Van Helsing is important. I hope the Forge work for you. Regarding marks, the Singularity on Magus LoL helped reduce damage 35%, have not had any problems with marks since using them.

The order I had was utmost important.
Most of the damage and attacks were made by my A. Werewolf and Van Helsing. With both of them getting multiple turns or counter attacks, the M. LoL & KP hardly need to go
Also, Yin & Yang talis give the already hard hitting Werewolf critical strike every turn.

If the order you listed above is not 100%, try putting Werewolf first and KP last.

My new best time is 1:18.

Good Luck!
12-01-2019, 03:56 PM
URock

Server disconnects are back!

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Flight of Icarus Eddie	Lantern, Warlord, Cosmic	My strongest Eddie, capable of dealing huge amounts of multi-hit damage when Warlord triggers. Can cleanse and remove damage shields
The Killer Prime	Persecution, Shell, Cosmic	His permadeath passive helps deal with the Light talismans, and Bloodlust from his basic helps trigger my Warlords. He hits like a wet noodle beacuse I don't have any good talismans for him yet, but his job is to stay alive and debuff the enemy.
6* Warrior LoL	Orbits	Awakening his first level turns his basic attack into an AOE that removes Perfect Immunity, which a lot of enemies in here have. The Orbits help him cleanse your team and purge the enemy's buffs. The Orbits also mean the final Cyborg boss can't really damage you, as all he does is true damage.
Sentinel Onyx Son	Singularity	Gives everyon an Accuracy Up buff (super good with LoL's Extra Turn change), removes enemy buffs, revives fallen allies, and with Singularities, he will continually steal the shields the boss Cyborg gains every turn.