Good rng on the start there on my side. Dumb nbol. Lucky escape with the nomad. Tnx for the video 3D
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Good rng on the start there on my side. Dumb nbol. Lucky escape with the nomad. Tnx for the video 3D
Double revenge vs Zidar
first match lost & second one got saved by GCR.. well done Zidar! that triple strike combo is really annoying ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pid983PtOWs
Feel free to post videos from my defense too. Would be interesting to see. Great thread btw. Thanks to everybody!
First of all, congratulations on 4th place! you're welcome and thanks for smurfing things up in the first place ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
On the other note, to make it clear, do you wish us to stop filming your defense for the time being?
Wow! That is how I only wish my defense would perform! Thanks for showing me! I took Gmac's defense and got rid of WUR and replaced him with Nomad for the fun of it and it can hold a def or two :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tridimensionale
It just happens that I've filmed some fights experimenting today and yours was among them.
Tridimension (loss)
https://youtu.be/f0rTo5-mJyU
....something didn't feel right so I gave it an another go :)
Tridimension
https://youtu.be/uedpcJ7S3jA
It seems that I will stop recording for a moment, having so much fun with VHE (not a single shard on him) and one more completely unsharded toon that it is suspicious :D
...so apparently this just happened:
Attachment 3426
That would put my unlucky number to 51, since 50 is the streak for this VHE team of mine, together with yesterday's 13 wins.
I can't remember if his holy unshardedness VHE is to blame or simply Lulero's defense performed spot on. Either way, so fun running around with 2 completely unsharded toons and getting on top.
I will stop filming for the time being to see if I can make something out of this team to count towards the end of the week. I will also migrate to a bad connection area for the next couple of weeks with no access to flat Internet, so that will also count as the reason for video silence from me :) Hope I don't get too many errors on Saturday...
Feel free to record that "defense" of mine and keep the other videos flowing!
@Tridimentionale: Thanks! Even though it was going according to plan this explosive proc of yours screwed everything heh.
@Zidar: My defense is rocking 33% right now, won't last but feels good. Sorry for your loss though, and I'm very jelly of your VHE, too! Keep up the good work.
Hey! I missed this. Thank you for posting. Was fun to watch my beating lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tridimensionale
I wish I could record on iPhone. I'm using Shaman Eddie on offense, and he is really fun to play with.
I could not publish more than one video, so I pasted the links
Lulero https://youtu.be/yTfUAmcw4I8
R1ck https://youtu.be/tMEJKRdPyA4
Tridimension https://youtu.be/aowJHYOXQ-s
Tridimension 2 https://youtu.be/JI5YJmkVBoA
Zidar https://youtu.be/MSdMHalPCRU
Thank you Kris. I knew it would look ugly against prisoner even when going first, but didn't have one to make sure. Last time I leave such a pivotal passive (Desert Marauder's in this setup of mine) without immunity.
Thanks for sharing Kris ! i need to find a way to shield wrath..
Please remove my nickname from the list, thanks.
Thanks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris-0707
Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
I attacked some guys from the list so I'm expecting to see videos of my poor team smashed to the ground as well, would like to see that. Come on guys, share the videos.
I've got another 3 fights already recorded, will upload them after work :)
Sorry to hear from R1ck that he don't want to be on the list anymore, I can understand why, but this is just the game and we shouldn't take it to serious, just do it for fun (if you know what I mean).
Well we have to respect everyones decision, even though i don't believe that it will make any difference on their defences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris-0707
Imho those videos do a good job on teaching people different attacking tactics/approaches and reveal bugs of battles.
Actually reporting a better hold rate since videos..Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveMurray
Probably a coincidence thought..
My defense is SO easy to beat if you go first - and manageable if you know the right tricks - but can be a real pain if you go in second without the right team. Like I said - if defense turns out to be a bust (which it very well may cause they often are) I'm happy to share freely again as this lulu defense may be changed. As a rule I agree these videos don't matter - but right now my defense is a one trick pony so keeping things as "mysterious" as possible ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris-0707
Respect for wishes above all in order to keep the thread healthy. It almost went the wrong way when I've started it by posting several videos... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveMurray
Videos are invaluable aspect and we can learn much from them so I fully understand Sag below.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sag7272
This thread helped me see a weak point in my DEF last week. Replaced WTroll with a reviver (GCR) and numbers shot up to end at 24% and last I checked was at 44% this week! I'm sure that will be much lower by weeks end but never seen it do so well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
Actually team, beside some tweaks, is exactly the same lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sag7272
Biggest upside seeing those videos is seeing your def "In the wild" there's a point in testing things in the manager where you can't go further & just hope it unfolds as expected once someone else than you will be attacking..
Giving away some surprises seems a fair compromise & helps lower ranked players getting ideas in the process :)
But that's me... Can also understand the secrecy of some, I really like that there's a consensus on just filming those ok with it :)
(First time I quote myself, it's kinda weird)
Yeah i thought i recorded you but did not, next time for sure ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris-0707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhWEGiSpN2M
True, your team is weak if attacker goes first. But if attacker goes second he can only win if wrath does not remove all buffs in the first move. All buffs gone and the second wrath doing the power move translates into defeat 9 out of 10 cases. I'll try again as soon as i see you on my list. Zidar's team also is hard to beat if you go secondQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
Inspired by Gmac's defense, only switched WUR for Nomad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mk ultra
Would love to put my current attacking team to have a go at defense, but am still saving it out of sight :)
Connection is dreadful here where I'm currently at, so I will have to go through the videos at a later time.
Definitely not 9/10 but it can be a challenge depending on how the cards fall. Holds definitely better this week and have occured against both top players and the lower ranked. But if you go first you may as well hit Auto and grab a beer cause you'll win every time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mk ultra
I'm at 98% this week with only two losses - you and Lulero - so I'll second this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
Haven't faced Kamuz yet though :p
hey guys,
i swiched my defense today, so please take me from the list from for the next time. will see how it goes first but it seems i have to swich it again. can't hold anyone anymore kinda frustrating at the moment...
I'm not a top player around here, but I sometimes get attacked by you folks. :) Feel free to record my games! I'd love to see myself getting my ass kicked. :)
Username: Satan81-5023
Okay, hope you don't start a trend :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slauki
I know that Gmac's absence is tempting, but that won't change too much in top 10- they will simply shift +1 :D
Filming someone's defense in my opinion isn't decisive as probably .9 of the score comes from (Saturday) attacks.
We've all learned a lot from these videos and this trend of "put me in, pull me out" will be the death of this thread; whoever aims for top 25 will memorize your defense and will simply adapt in the second go. Top 10 probably not even that.
I can't keep the videos flowing for two weeks simply because of being on paid mobile connection (3G speed at best, errors lurking) with no flat around, so please keep the vids flowing!
Anyway, looking forward to meeting my VHE incognito with your defense to see if I help with your ratio :D
Yeah I don't think pulling out of this thread is gonna have much of an effect on the hold % although, we'll definitely want to hear from both Nicko and Slauki (and anyone else who removed themselves) after Saturday to see if they noticed a huge difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
It's helped me a lot and is still enjoyable to watch everyone's styles... keep me in and please continue to post any victories or defeats against me!
edsel 3356 can video, Nicko your team and I have crossed paths in Arena many times, some of them I don't want to see again...your team is TOUGH
Can confirm that the defense is good and got crippled the first time I attacked and went 2nd; no luck + going 2nd works fine to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
Revenge was faster and sweeter. Report your ratio here, your defense could work nicely.
I had the fight with Nicko on the morning. Blimey, 2 overpowered Wrath's ... I went first and won (got it recorded, but will not share it here), I think if you go against that sort of teams 2nd, there is basically very small chance to win. I've seen another team with 2 Wraths, looks like someone already copied Nicko's setup.
I've got few videos recorded against players from the list, but looks like only 3dimension and myself are sharing videos in that thread. I will upload them when someone else other than 3dimension will do the same.
I didn't record a single hold for 60+ matches atm, switched defence multiple times and still nothing, can someone please post a video, something is wrong..
Pepp's team has 2 wraths too. But the talismans setup and the other 2 toons doesn't help, so it was pretty easy to beat it going secondQuote:
Originally Posted by angelkelly
Almost the same here. As soon as you work your way up to top 25, holds are extremely rare if your team doesn't stun, taunt or blindQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveMurray
thanks man will sure let you guys know if it had some impac. numbers are too small to draw conclusion in total i have miserable 14% now. still kinda midweek and it used to be around 25%+ for weeks. it dropped a lot in the last days, when it started raining attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
well tbh i don't think specific videos have too much of an effect, but every hold matters especially on saturdays. a lack of holds make climbing or competing much harder. every hold makes a difference of at least 24 points (+12 instead of -12) so it's adds up a lot in total.
Hi there, feel free to use videos where i 'm in.
Thx for the post.
Enkilol-7758
Alright, looks like not too many of us wants to share the strategies ...
My team is quite bad (the same since week 6 or 7 - don't remember) and AI still doesn't know how to use these toons :) therefore my ass been kicked so many times that I no longer care about it :)
So below are links to few fights from yesterday and today ...
Caretakerii: https://youtu.be/FpNZkuSGg7g
Eskiggalu: https://youtu.be/ryH0rDB3edY
Caretakerii v2: https://youtu.be/yd3ayKvSmak
Caretakerii v3: https://youtu.be/qWANcgfdEyk
Askora: https://youtu.be/nJQkI1L4gx4
Pepp: https://youtu.be/3a88WTr00Cc
Lulero: https://youtu.be/QE_BNxyXMpw
Well Prof. to be honest i have the same problem as you.. used to have 22-23% def ratio, last week had huge drop and this week is only 15%.. i don t think is the video sharing.. maybe energy talisman abuse help attacks or the nerf of some key toons that helped before (nbol / MCR / wrath) ..Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
Anyway we all have high attacks ratio (from 89 to 97 %) , al least the players in top 50 so playing in high rank we can t expect much from our hold :( but a few times bad rng happen and thats all we can expect xD. yesterday for example i lost 3 times in a row against ringe's team which is very similar to your new setup.. only matter of luck/bad rng/coin toss sometimes..