Game Update - December 12th 2016 + Viking Eddie!

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Originally Posted by Mizrael

my honest advice to Sparton would be:
You guys should just sit down,take a deep breath,scrape all those 6 months old content releasing schedules and let's talk to the experienced players who have been playing your game for a long time now.We can start from the beginning,from square one. Let's forget all about some PVP (it will only harm the game and the community if released at this stage). Let's talk about:how to bring back sense into sorcery&co. talismans? or Which slot colors do you think are wrong and why? or Let's refresh the skill description sheets and fix missing words (alot of skills don't specify AoE or single target,just "2 hits of physical damage") or wrong skill icons on characters (think it's called Cast on 2 characters has the picture of trolls basic attack). or Why do sentinels have purple slots and do magic damage scaled with SPECIAL and HP (just a crazy example,but you get the point).

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Trust me, myself a lot of others on the development team really, really want to sit down and do a lot of the things you're suggesting here. That said... there's plenty of people in this thread who have complained that tweaking existing stuff is not the priority they want. They want new content, new features... and we want to deliver that too.

Ultimately, we've tried to split our attention between a lot of initiatives, but that meant each has taken longer to push out than we wanted to. We will have something in time for Christmas, but other than that our priority is monitoring the stability/engagement with the limited PVP beta so we can get that to a state where we are comfortable releasing that worldwide.

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Originally Posted by Mizrael

The players are ready to talk,but it all seems to be decided behind closed doors.
Sadly no patch notes are ever released prior to updates, so the players can't discuss the upcoming changes at least on a theoretical level before they get applied and ruin something...

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Yeah, tried to start something like this with our first batch of patch notes, but as updates became more rapid, we didn't plan enough ahead to do something like this for the more balance-related changes we want to do. Bug fixes (like the stuff that's been happening around Marks) will happen largely as our programming team is able to fix them, but for other design changes (like stat scaling, damage scaling, etc), we're going to go back to that original plan of bringing proposals/concerns to the player base here on the forums and making sure we get a sense for the community's perception before making too many changes.

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Also, I'm going to start deleting the purely hate-filled comments from this thread. Keep it civil, please.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

...Bug fixes (like the stuff that's been happening around Marks) will happen largely as our programming team is able to fix them

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Hi Sparton :)

Please consider fixing CR Eddie's fury... It's been broken for quite long I am afraid... And I couldn't read anywhere here even shortest note that you're working on it... I am aware that you might be having bigger problems around here right now, but please keep that in mind/add for the todo list...

Thank you and have a nice evening/day :)

Cheers,

W

Hi everyone.

Things are getting a little heated in here. Please know that while we absolutely welcome all suggestions and any constructive criticism, we will not tolerate personal attacks on members.

Please keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Witkacy

Please consider fixing CR Eddie's fury... It's been broken for quite long I am afraid... And I couldn't read anywhere here even shortest note that you're working on it... I am aware that you might be having bigger problems around here right now, but please keep that in mind/add for the todo list...

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The bug is still in our system, and the main reason it's not been fixed yet is, as far as we can tell, it's a purely visual bug.

Basically, the game is correctly tracking HP lost from the magic damage, but the transitions from gameplay camera -> Fury camera -> gameplay camera causes the game to incorrectly make it look like the Fury did more damage than it actually did, then "corrects" itself to show the actual current HP. It looks like healing, but it's just correcting and over-compensation.

I'm going to try and triple-check while looking at the internal numbers for HP before and after, but I've used him a lot myself and am almost certain that's what it is. Frustrating, but not technically doing anything wrong as far as combat functionality is concerned.

I actually thought things were pretty civil for the first 15 pages or so. Nothing at all wrong with voicing disappointment or concern over the direction of the game. Constructive criticism is necessary to give the devs an idea of how the players like/dislike the game and where they would like to see it go. The key word there obviously being constructive. I think there are many, myself included, who see the same ideas and concerns being brought up over and over after each update and want their voice heard a little louder. It's when people get called out for being crybabies or told they shouldn't be voicing their opinions when things start to escalate.

I too look forward to seeing the majority of future discussions about content and game play strategy. Not everyone is going to get along, but from what I've seen in this forum for a long time was good discussion about Maiden and helping each other through the game. I'd hate to see this forum turn into two different sides taking shots at each other.

Sparton, we know that you are all trying to do your best. It why happened with this update is actually a good thing. It shows you how much we feel for this adventure. As I said, we have all invested so much time ne money into this game primarily as die hard Iron Maiden fans and it is only normal
To feel betrayed. Y the constant nerfing of what we have worked so much to build. Most of us on this forum are just grinders now and making the game by nerfing or reducing drop rates is not helping. We have all completed it so making it more difficult doesn't change a thing, it only makes our daily farming more painful as we wait for new content.

Spending Ironite and cash to gain useless souls and getting very scarce evo shards or evo runes is not appealing to a lot of us anymore and does not reflect the generosity and energy that Iron Maiden portrays.

I know it is the hardest thing to keep users happy and lead a successful development track but we are behind you. We just need this whole thing to be fairer to us your most devoted players. I run multinational teams of developers and sometimes taking a breather and undoing what is causing harm to users and restoring balance is the only recipe for success. I hope that you and the Deb team will take this into consideration we know you are not here to extract even more money from us but optically it sure feels like this.

Stay wit us, please...

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Originally Posted by Purplepixii

FFS since today's update I've had the "stuck at 80% loading screen bug". Uninstalled & reinstalled the game, went through the tedious "new player" bit (Devs - can't you add "link to Facebook" or "log in to your account" one of the first screens please) & managed to play a few LoLs. Now I just got some weird MACLO server error, got kicked out, and am back to being stuck on 80% loading screen again!!

Not happy!

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Hi purlepixii,

Please email [email protected] for assistance! Be sure to include your full username if you remember it. They will be able to look up your account and find out what is happening.

Hello, please check the stats of hellhound he has more magic than atk being a warrior character.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

The bug is still in our system, and the main reason it's not been fixed yet is, as far as we can tell, it's a purely visual bug.

Basically, the game is correctly tracking HP lost from the magic damage, but the transitions from gameplay camera -> Fury camera -> gameplay camera causes the game to incorrectly make it look like the Fury did more damage than it actually did, then "corrects" itself to show the actual current HP. It looks like healing, but it's just correcting and over-compensation.

I'm going to try and triple-check while looking at the internal numbers for HP before and after, but I've used him a lot myself and am almost certain that's what it is. Frustrating, but not technically doing anything wrong as far as combat functionality is concerned.

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Thanks :)

But apart of visual aspect he's fury is only one of that I've observed so far... I mean that with his fury I can see how much damage he will cause BEFORE the animation starts and I guess is a bit wrong order... I hope you'll get to the point of what I am talking about... Other Eddies no matter mine or ''rent'' from my troopers don't ''suffer'' this problem just CR... Sure it's not getting affect me that much, yet it would be cool to fix it in proper way... It's still my beloved Eddie so I want all the best for him ;)

Cheers,

W

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

I'll get back to reading through the thread and responding momentarily, but I wanted to post that the team has identified what the exact problem is for the apparent nerf that affects many characters.

The short of it is skill shards do not function in auto-play (for all characters). They do still function when playing manually, though. I've created an announcement thread with more information here.

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This explains why my CR has seemed nerfed. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Patrice-1201

Sparton, we know that you are all trying to do your best. It why happened with this update is actually a good thing. It shows you how much we feel for this adventure. As I said, we have all invested so much time ne money into this game primarily as die hard Iron Maiden fans and it is only normal
To feel betrayed. Y the constant nerfing of what we have worked so much to build. Most of us on this forum are just grinders now and making the game by nerfing or reducing drop rates is not helping. We have all completed it so making it more difficult doesn't change a thing, it only makes our daily farming more painful as we wait for new content.

Spending Ironite and cash to gain useless souls and getting very scarce evo shards or evo runes is not appealing to a lot of us anymore and does not reflect the generosity and energy that Iron Maiden portrays.

I know it is the hardest thing to keep users happy and lead a successful development track but we are behind you. We just need this whole thing to be fairer to us your most devoted players. I run multinational teams of developers and sometimes taking a breather and undoing what is causing harm to users and restoring balance is the only recipe for success. I hope that you and the Deb team will take this into consideration we know you are not here to extract even more money from us but optically it sure feels like this.

Stay wit us, please...

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Great post !!!!
Thumbs up !!!!
This is exactly what I think !!!!

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Originally Posted by Patrice-1201

Sparton, we know that you are all trying to do your best. It why happened with this update is actually a good thing. It shows you how much we feel for this adventure. As I said, we have all invested so much time ne money into this game primarily as die hard Iron Maiden fans and it is only normal
To feel betrayed. Y the constant nerfing of what we have worked so much to build. Most of us on this forum are just grinders now and making the game by nerfing or reducing drop rates is not helping. We have all completed it so making it more difficult doesn't change a thing, it only makes our daily farming more painful as we wait for new content.

Spending Ironite and cash to gain useless souls and getting very scarce evo shards or evo runes is not appealing to a lot of us anymore and does not reflect the generosity and energy that Iron Maiden portrays.

I know it is the hardest thing to keep users happy and lead a successful development track but we are behind you. We just need this whole thing to be fairer to us your most devoted players. I run multinational teams of developers and sometimes taking a breather and undoing what is causing harm to users and restoring balance is the only recipe for success. I hope that you and the Deb team will take this into consideration we know you are not here to extract even more money from us but optically it sure feels like this.

Stay wit us, please...

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We appreciate the patience and constructive feedback from you (and many others). I know I haven't responded to everyone's criticisms, but I read every comment in these threads (and I know a few other developers also do), so even if it sounds like we're silent to the various things being requested, we do read them and often discuss them internally. As a team effort with various stakeholders, we just can't always speak up about every possible thing, and sometimes need to deliberate over some subjects longer than anyone would really like.

I know many on our team there is a growing concern with wanting to channel some dedicated time into doing a massive deluge of fixes... really, the "bug fixes" part of the first page is primarily me going back and combing through our database for fixes that aren't related to stuff that hasn't released yet, and there's often stuff that slips by even me (like fixes for skill shards not always applying correctly... even though it looks like that fix caused a knock-on that they never work in auto-battle).

We obviously still have concerns for overall character balance (for both PVE and PVP), but now that the limited PVP beta is available (more info here if you haven't seen that yet), we will make the thoughts and concerns of the community more involved than it was previously.

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Originally Posted by DIEDD

Hello, please check the stats of hellhound he has more magic than atk being a warrior character.

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As far as I can tell looking at the history of the files relating to him, he was added late in development and his overall role/direction changed at some point, and as a relic of that he has an oddly high Magic stat. Unless we see that causing problems with how people build the character with talismans, we'll probably leave that as an odd relic of the past, which potentially talisman skills or other additions may give in an interesting edge in down the road...

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Originally Posted by Witkacy

But apart of visual aspect he's fury is only one of that I've observed so far... I mean that with his fury I can see how much damage he will cause BEFORE the animation starts and I guess is a bit wrong order... I hope you'll get to the point of what I am talking about... Other Eddies no matter mine or ''rent'' from my troopers don't ''suffer'' this problem just CR... Sure it's not getting affect me that much, yet it would be cool to fix it in proper way... It's still my beloved Eddie so I want all the best for him ;)

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Yeah, there's something weird with his set up, and if I were a programmer I'm sure I'd have gone nuts and tried to investigate it myself, but it's beyond my expertise.

If you have things like skill description mixups or weird evo requirements, I can fix those easily at least. Myself and others periodically scan through the Bug Reports page and fix stuff reported there.

Sparton - why the extreme nerf on the Corrupt General?

My Sentinel Bomber Boy - with zero skillshards and combination of partially leveled 5 star and fully leveled 4 star Talismans - is doing significantly more damage than a Corrupt General with maxed out 5 star Talismans and maxed out skill shards

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No

Sense

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Sparton - why the extreme nerf on the Corrupt General?

My Sentinel Bomber Boy - with zero skillshards and combination of partially leveled 5 star and fully leveled 4 star Talismans - is doing significantly more damage than a Corrupt General with maxed out 5 star Talismans and maxed out skill shards

Makes

No

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It makes sense.

Just like it'll make sense when your Sentinel Bomber Boy gets adjusted and you remember this moment and what you posted.

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Originally Posted by PsychoEddie

It makes sense.

Just like it'll make sense when your Sentinel Bomber Boy gets adjusted and you remember this moment and what you posted.

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Nah. I could have substituted 10 other characters in that question.

And please - unless Sparton and Psycho Eddie are the same - let Sparton reply, as the question was addressed to him

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Originally Posted by Aristo4

OK NOW BOTH GO AWAY FROM MY THREAD...I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NERFS :cool:

Nerfs give me a hardon.

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OMFG!!! Post of the month! lolololol

Thank you Aristo :cool:

I really like this update - both the "nerfs" and the bug fixes. I can finally use my "mass stack of Assassin marks" team again ;)
I am still having some strange behaviour with the Red Troll - few times yestarday after he attacked the enemy a character in my team with his heal shield just died instantly (Red Bomber Boy) and an endless small heals started to appear near the dead toon.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Sparton - why the extreme nerf on the Corrupt General?

My Sentinel Bomber Boy - with zero skillshards and combination of partially leveled 5 star and fully leveled 4 star Talismans - is doing significantly more damage than a Corrupt General with maxed out 5 star Talismans and maxed out skill shards

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Well... I'd need to look at actual numbers comparisons when I'm back in the office, but the Corrupt General is still the best AoE stunner in the game, does reasonably good damage on his basic considering the extra effects associated (and crazy high on his power), and now can do insane single target damage with his Fury.

Near the launch of the game, the Corrupt General did all that, plus stunning even more often, plus dealing more damage than nearly anything else without even needing Magic Up or Magic Piercing or whatever else. It trivialized the idea of bringing any other Magus... or even any other ally. Almost nothing we had in the campaign, nor anything we could introduce after, would be able to do anything unless it specifically was built to counter high magic damage and stunning... which would make all future content incredibly boring and same-y.

And that said, he's still one of the most used characters we have in the game. He's still head and shoulders above most other characters, but yes, some other characters can do more AoE magic damage than him on his basic. There's more to the game then raw damage on AoE basics, even if spamming AoE is a commonly used (and commonly useful) strategy.

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Originally Posted by AntonNikolov

I am still having some strange behaviour with the Red Troll - few times yestarday after he attacked the enemy a character in my team with his heal shield just died instantly (Red Bomber Boy) and an endless small heals started to appear near the dead toon.

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Do you know what enemy you attacked, or at least what stage you were fighting in?

BUG

Can't claim achievement rewards. If you claim them then try to go back to playing the game loops causing you to force quit. Leaving rewards unclaimed. I can claim daily rewards and force quit but not the big rewards.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Do you know what enemy you attacked, or at least what stage you were fighting in?

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Yes I remember - LOL Red Dungeon Lvl 10. First 2 times happened on autoplay on wave 2. Last time I attacked the Boss. My characters setup was - Soldier Eddie, Red Bomber Boy first slot (the one that died), The Nomad and Red Troll.

Thank you Sparton for your reply and now we know that the auto mode is bugged.
But how this thing can happen? You don't have any beta testers internally to check if the update works fine?
I know mistakes is human and we can learn and progress with that, but sorry this is an huge one that we can play the game in auto and manually I can't honored all my troopers so... I' ll wait the next update and hope that will be resolved. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Following up from yesterday... it sounds like something that is used for debugging purposes (which requires those permissions) shipped with the update when it shouldn't have. The next update will remove the
That's odd... I'm not seeing that when I go to any of the screens which have a timer. Are you still seeing this? Is there a specific screen you're seeing this on?
What hardware/OS version are you running?

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Hi Sparton, I only see that on the NOX App Player emulator, set to 4 CPUs, 4GB of RAM, tablet mode.
On my actual Andoid phone (Galaxy S7) it's still fine, as I found out later.

Regards

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

We appreciate the patience and constructive feedback from you (and many others). I know I haven't responded to everyone's criticisms, but I read every comment in these threads (and I know a few other developers also do), so even if it sounds like we're silent to the various things being requested, we do read them and often discuss them internally. As a team effort with various stakeholders, we just can't always speak up about every possible thing, and sometimes need to deliberate over some subjects longer than anyone would really like.

I know many on our team there is a growing concern with wanting to channel some dedicated time into doing a massive deluge of fixes... really, the "bug fixes" part of the first page is primarily me going back and combing through our database for fixes that aren't related to stuff that hasn't released yet, and there's often stuff that slips by even me (like fixes for skill shards not always applying correctly... even though it looks like that fix caused a knock-on that they never work in auto-battle).

We obviously still have concerns for overall character balance (for both PVE and PVP), but now that the limited PVP beta is available (more info here if you haven't seen that yet), we will make the thoughts and concerns of the community more involved than it was previously.

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Hi Sparton,
I don't know if you catched our message well, so I'll try to say it best that I can.
We know you and Nodding Frog are doing business with this game, and you know that
all of us are great fans of Iron Maiden, that loves the band and all their aspects.
It's right that you are doing your job and your business, but you know, business is
good if both the sides are obtaining what they have to get, otherwise is not business,
is a cheat. We think you are playing too much with our love for the band, and you are
cheating us in some way.
Many of us payed you (so did I, and I alredy give to you much money), so give us what
we have to get. Is a good thing supporting you, but it's not a good thing when you
take too much advantage from that. Your product is good, we like it, we sometimes pay
money for that, but if we don't see benefits of our effort, but even we see that
things are getting worse, we don't support you anymore, and it's not a good business
for you and neither for us.
Take care of us, or we'll don't take care of you anymore.

Regards

Best comment ever

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Well... I'd need to look at actual numbers comparisons when I'm back in the office, but the Corrupt General is still the best AoE stunner in the game, does reasonably good damage on his basic considering the extra effects associated (and crazy high on his power), and now can do insane single target damage with his Fury.

Near the launch of the game, the Corrupt General did all that, plus stunning even more often, plus dealing more damage than nearly anything else without even needing Magic Up or Magic Piercing or whatever else. It trivialized the idea of bringing any other Magus... or even any other ally. Almost nothing we had in the campaign, nor anything we could introduce after, would be able to do anything unless it specifically was built to counter high magic damage and stunning... which would make all future content incredibly boring and same-y.

And that said, he's still one of the most used characters we have in the game. He's still head and shoulders above most other characters, but yes, some other characters can do more AoE magic damage than him on his basic. There's more to the game then raw damage on AoE basics, even if spamming AoE is a commonly used (and commonly useful) strategy.

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Thanks so much for the response! Certainly the stun adjustment from the last update was merited, but his damage was also reduced at that update. I would disagree after putting him through the ringer last night he's head and shoulders above most other characters as his damage output, at this point , is certainly in the bottom half of fully leveled, fully maxed AoE characters. And he drops as a five star, which you would think would put him in the upper third.

I didn't use him much after the last nerf - primarily LoL warrior - but as he got me through the campaign he'll always be a favorite. I appreciate your explanation, but the fact he's now in the bottom half of damage dealers - when he used to be top 10 % - is sad.

Thanks again and keeping the faith that all these adjustments will be taking us somewhere better!

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Thanks so much for the response! Certainly the stun adjustment from the last update was merited, but his damage was also reduced at that update. I would disagree after putting him through the ringer last night he's head and shoulders above most other characters as his damage output, at this point , is certainly in the bottom half of fully leveled, fully maxed AoE characters. And he drops as a five star, which you would think would put him in the upper third.

I didn't use him much after the last nerf - primarily LoL warrior - but as he got me through the campaign he'll always be a favorite. I appreciate your explanation, but the fact he's now in the bottom half of damage dealers - when he used to be top 10 % - is sad.

Thanks again and keeping the faith that all these adjustments will be taking us somewhere better!

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Wanted to get him for ages and hoped to see you do an increase chance to drop with him i would have full skill sharded him.As he stands now I don't want him and would not spend skill shards on him would rather get lucky with serval 4* toons I'm missing

Of course it just my opinion but having idolized over a toon from the beginning it's sad I can longer see him that way :(

Prior to this update, the signature opening move on the Boss Wave of Game of Death Madness was a fury attack from a fully-leveled, max-talismaned Aces High Eddie. Assassin CotD would die nearly every time. Gunner CotD might or might not die along with Assassin.

At present, I have run this move 10-20 times and have not killed a single opponent with the lone exception of killing one assassin once on a critical. More than once, 2-3 CotD opponents had a green health bar following this fury attack, demonstrating that the power of his fury attack has been completely neutered.

The only alleged alterations to these Gunner Eddies were supposed to deal with extra turns and power generation, yet here we are with (fury) damage now fucked.

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Originally Posted by Roquetas-5312

Wanted to get him for ages and hoped to see you do an increase chance to drop with him i would have full skill sharded him.As he stands now I don't want him and would not spend skill shards on him would rather get lucky with serval 4* toons I'm missing

Of course it just my opinion but having idolized over a toon from the beginning it's sad I can longer see him that way :(

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As you're a Trooper of mine I'll put him back as a Champion after the Sentinel dungeon and see what you think.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Well... I'd need to look at actual numbers comparisons when I'm back in the office, but the Corrupt General is still the best AoE stunner in the game, does reasonably good damage on his basic considering the extra effects associated (and crazy high on his power), and now can do insane single target damage with his Fury.

Near the launch of the game, the Corrupt General did all that, plus stunning even more often, plus dealing more damage than nearly anything else without even needing Magic Up or Magic Piercing or whatever else. It trivialized the idea of bringing any other Magus... or even any other ally. Almost nothing we had in the campaign, nor anything we could introduce after, would be able to do anything unless it specifically was built to counter high magic damage and stunning... which would make all future content incredibly boring and same-y.

And that said, he's still one of the most used characters we have in the game. He's still head and shoulders above most other characters, but yes, some other characters can do more AoE magic damage than him on his basic. There's more to the game then raw damage on AoE basics, even if spamming AoE is a commonly used (and commonly useful) strategy.

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Hi Sparton :)

It will be about Herr General ''Nerfft'' as the example and nerfing itself but not as the idea - I do my best to still take your points - but the most important is not why you do something but HOW... I respect your opinion about HG, yet not agree with it... You nerfed him once for the sake of PVP - OK, I'll get it - done, no problem, but with latest nerf it's a bit different I guess... The same old common excuse which it getting bored as old dusty cracking record - once listened - but now slowly forgotten - PVP?

As it might be read under lines of your answer now you decided to nerf the guy because still was TOO GOOD and it somehow hurted you that people not paying as much attention as they could to others characters once acquire HG, so you decided to break the guy some other bones to force us the players to at last make a divorce and start to look for another objects of love? Well... This is how I read your message...

You said ''Almost nothing we had in the campaign, nor anything we could introduce after, would be able to do anything unless it specifically was built to counter high magic damage and stunning...'' - I am sorry for being honest - but such words stand very bad for your creativity as the team if you NOW admit this LOUD AND CLEAR that you won't be able to create anything that would be able to stop his powers in the future... So he was like some Evil God and the only way to stop him was to cut his powers even more and destroy him? Shame...

You write about boring and same-y content would be if you not react in time and save the game nerfing HG... But I can say EXACTLY THE SAME about the game if you would down to the ground everyone single character that happen too good IN YOUR OPINION...

So please let me ask you straight - For whom is the game that you're running now?

A) For yourself only?
B) For the players?

First answer seems very risky to admit - but who knows maybe that's how you're seeing this... That's only your ground... No trespassing... Trespassers will be shot without a warning... This is OUR land, OUR game and we have the right to do with it whatever WE wish to, and you have the right to pay what we are offering you, remain silent or get lost...

In case you would pick the second one - That's great! I am glad to hear... But it would be meant that we're partners - you and us together - as we all want THE SAME - GOOD GAME... I hope... Yet since some time due to your certain actions - I have the feeling that ALL you care is good income and sales figures...
Fine... But start to ACT like partner AT LAST, ok? - I mean don't CHEAT US... Nobody likes to be cheated, Am I right? We, the people :) Iron Maiden fans are NOT stupid...

Nerfing the characters - stll TEASING people to spend the money - advertising some character as EXCEPTIONAL while not being anymore (not everyone has their own loading board)

HG has:

http://vpx.pl/i/2016/12/14/Screensho...4-31-36.md.png

Or offering in a game shop as the ''Top Prize'' while everybody seem to know already that you've just fallen the guy off the top...

http://s2.ifotos.pl/mini/Screensho_anarpsw.png

You have dare, really...

Start to talk with us BEFORE your certain actions not post factum... Try to get people's opinion first... Personally I HATE when somebody decides of something what affects me behind my back and knows best what's best for me, how I should play - I want to play ON MY OWN - I want to have a chioce - but not this - while you'll be nerfing my characters one by one TO FORCE ME to evolve some different ones or play more with else...

All your latest actions (regardless planned on purpose or not) have led me to the point that I don't want to open souls ANYMORE and pick something you might find too good someday and break it, I don't want to do achivement with putting skillshards anymore with the same reason as I am fear to invest them on a wrong horse it might be - when YOU say so... Is that was your goal to decrease my interest with the game even more? If yes - great - you've made it! Congrats!

Still respect your tryings to give us a good game as we deserve... Hope you start to make things be right at last for both sides SOON...

Cheers,

W

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Originally Posted by compurocker

iPad 2 on iOS 9.2.1

I have been able to run a few battles and get back to the dungeon, but I have had at least four battles die in that spot on me. The game usually crashes on me a couple times a day, but this increased frequency and crashing in the same spot, are both unusual.

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More info in case it helps. I had been playing Game of Death (Madness, manual, 1x) when it was crashing. I decided to start farming Point of No Return (Hard, auto, 2x) just to try and get as many trooper badges as possible despite the crashing. I actually made it through probably about 120 sands worth with only a handful of crashes.

I tried Game of Death again (Madness, manual, 1x). In four matches it 1) crashed at killing blow, 2) made it through the whole match but all end match animations were really slow, 3) crashed at start of match, and 4) crashed at killing blow. Went back to Point of No Return (Hard, auto, 2x) and did four matches so far with no crashes.

At least give us the chance to recover the skillshards from the chars that you nerfed so bad that we wont use anymore, so we can decide where to spend them. Let us decide something by ourselves.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Thanks so much for the response! Certainly the stun adjustment from the last update was merited, but his damage was also reduced at that update. I would disagree after putting him through the ringer last night he's head and shoulders above most other characters as his damage output, at this point , is certainly in the bottom half of fully leveled, fully maxed AoE characters. And he drops as a five star, which you would think would put him in the upper third.

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Yeah, I don't know how it flew under the radar for so long, but he was scaling with Attack when he shouldn't have.

If you want to see him do crazy damage, his power skill and his fury should be bananas, though, especially if you support them with appropriate buffs/debuffs.

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Originally Posted by FlyingV

Prior to this update, the signature opening move on the Boss Wave of Game of Death Madness was a fury attack from a fully-leveled, max-talismaned Aces High Eddie. Assassin CotD would die nearly every time. Gunner CotD might or might not die along with Assassin.

At present, I have run this move 10-20 times and have not killed a single opponent with the lone exception of killing one assassin once on a critical. More than once, 2-3 CotD opponents had a green health bar following this fury attack, demonstrating that the power of his fury attack has been completely neutered.

The only alleged alterations to these Gunner Eddies were supposed to deal with extra turns and power generation, yet here we are with (fury) damage now fucked.

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Are you doing this on auto? There is a bug right now where auto-battle is not counting skill shards, which would explain the drop in damage. An update with a fix for this has been submitted for approval to the app stores.

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Originally Posted by Eagleknight

Can't claim achievement rewards. If you claim them then try to go back to playing the game loops causing you to force quit. Leaving rewards unclaimed. I can claim daily rewards and force quit but not the big rewards.

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If you have multiple achievements you've met the requirement for, can you try claiming just one, backing out of the screen, then going back in to claim the next, etc?

Which achievement(s) are you having this problem with?

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Originally Posted by AntonNikolov

Yes I remember - LOL Red Dungeon Lvl 10. First 2 times happened on autoplay on wave 2. Last time I attacked the Boss. My characters setup was - Soldier Eddie, Red Bomber Boy first slot (the one that died), The Nomad and Red Troll.

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I'll pass that along to be investigated. Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by vgta99

Thank you Sparton for your reply and now we know that the auto mode is bugged.
But how this thing can happen? You don't have any beta testers internally to check if the update works fine?
I know mistakes is human and we can learn and progress with that, but sorry this is an huge one that we can play the game in auto and manually I can't honored all my troopers so... I' ll wait the next update and hope that will be resolved. ;)

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I can't speak specifically for our QA, but from what I understand, a lot of their testing process involves checking numbers when playing manually, not playing with auto. Testing battle difficulty on manual and on auto probably something we'll need to set aside time for to ensure something like this doesn't slip by again.

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Originally Posted by Witkacy

You nerfed him once for the sake of PVP - OK, I'll get it - done, no problem, but with latest nerf it's a bit different I guess... The same old common excuse which it getting bored as old dusty cracking record - once listened - but now slowly forgotten - PVP?

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No, we removed Attack scaling from the Corrupt General because there was no sensible reason the most blasty Magus in the game had hidden basic attack scaling with Attack. Overall, the nerf in his damage relative to what people already invest with him for magic means his damage went down by about 1/8th... if you want to do the most damage with him, it's expected you're using his power and fury skills, not his stunning, debuffing basic.

As already stated, his usage was still high because he's insanely good for more than his basic attack damage... and I have no doubt that'll continue to be the same. If I'm wrong about that, I'll happily admit that if and when it becomes apparent.

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Originally Posted by compurocker

More info in case it helps. I had been playing Game of Death (Madness, manual, 1x) when it was crashing. I decided to start farming Point of No Return (Hard, auto, 2x) just to try and get as many trooper badges as possible despite the crashing. I actually made it through probably about 120 sands worth with only a handful of crashes.

I tried Game of Death again (Madness, manual, 1x). In four matches it 1) crashed at killing blow, 2) made it through the whole match but all end match animations were really slow, 3) crashed at start of match, and 4) crashed at killing blow. Went back to Point of No Return (Hard, auto, 2x) and did four matches so far with no crashes.

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Thanks for the additional info. We have a fix checked in for the next update for what was causing this (trying to re-initialize too many things at once at combat end). We've already submitted the update with that fix and the Skill Shard auto battle fix, so hopefully that'll be approved to go live before the end of the week.

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Originally Posted by ritchbe

Just checked this Dank Brew guy's team and he barely has 5 level 100 characters, no talismans or sense in talisman builds.

Shouldn't be taken seriously, nor should he give advices to level 100 players.

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I don't grind all day every day, like alot of you. Why should I? The game is apparently f*cked anyways right?
No sense in talisman builds? Why can I auto play every single stage 10 of LoL, and easily beat the beast on madness?

All I was saying is stop f*cking crying about it. No one is forcing you to play, No one is forcing you to spend money. So shut the F up about it and go cry somewhere else. It's annoying.

How about instead of constant whining, someone just give some actual feedback instead.

FYI, i do appreciate those who do spend money on this, it helps keep it running. I personally do not, never spent a penny.

Ok fine, I can't auto play every single one lmao. I definitely jump in on the 3rd round. I got all fired up hahaha

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Originally Posted by Dank Brew

I don't grind all day every day, like alot of you. Why should I? The game is apparently f*cked anyways right?
No sense in talisman builds? Why can I auto play every single stage 10 of LoL, and easily beat the beast on madness?

All I was saying is stop f*cking crying about it. No one is forcing you to play, No one is forcing you to spend money. So shut the F up about it and go cry somewhere else. It's annoying.

How about instead of constant whining, someone just give some actual feedback instead.

FYI, i do appreciate those who do spend money on this, it helps keep it running. I personally do not, never spent a penny.

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Where do I even begin?

I can agree that a poster's worth is not the sum of his playing achievements and there is little good judging him on it- subject to the exception that if the poster is new/inexperienced he may not know what he is talking about.

But here is the irony: There are a number of us who have dedicated time and (real) money on this game, who have been more than annoyed by the periodic updates that serve us no good other than bug fixing, yet often cause as much instability in turn, etc. and we discuss it (Constructively, angrily or otherwise). Meanwhile there are those who are so annoyed by our annoyance (caused by much of the crap they blindly rush in to defend) that they must sound off about their discontent about the forum with these posts that disagree with their sensibilities.

Let me spell it out for those for whom that little passage flew right over their heads:

1. Bitching about those who bitch for their bitching is hypocrisy at its finest.

2. Nobody is holding a gun to anybody's head to read or participate here. If you don't like what's posted feel free to take your own advice, log out, leave this forum, and go play on Pinterest instead.

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Originally Posted by Mizrael

So please do enlighten me: what is there to like about this update?(Note that i still didn't swear nor say anything negative about the update itself)

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Sorry, I have a potty mouth no matter what mood i'm in. I didn't mean the update is fantastic. Sure the new Eddie willl be cool (maybe??). But honestly, i'm not "expecting" anything to come from them. I just grind, doing the same thing over and over and over, so ANY change AT ALL is positive for me. Whether it totally screws up my whole team, or makes them insanely stronger. I don't care, it's different than what i've been doing constantly. Make sense?

The only thing about the game that actually bothers me right now, is the fact that there isn't more music. And the fact that the music is WAY lower than the effects sounds. That annoys the hell out of me, since it's a game based off a band. It should have LOUDER MUSIC.

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Originally Posted by Dank Brew

How about instead of constant whining, someone just give some actual feedback instead.

FYI, i do appreciate those who do spend money on this, it helps keep it running. I personally do not, never spent a penny.

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I contribute $$$ and don't mind at all whether others do or don't. I have plenty of $$$ to spare so it has no impact on my life to choose to spend it here or not.

At the same time, the constant whining and crying by some of those who aren't paying is more than a bit amusing.

A person who isn't supporting the game with $$$ and is calling for others to not buy stuff from the store is an example of someone living in total loserville. Each person can choose to pay or not, it is their and my choice, not the constant whiners choice.

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Originally Posted by FlyingV

1. Bitching about those who bitch for their bitching is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Finally someone gets it. lol

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Originally Posted by PsychoEddie

I contribute $$$ and don't mind at all whether others do or don't. I have plenty of $$$ to spare so it has no impact on my life to choose to spend it here or not.

At the same time, the constant whining and crying by some of those who aren't paying is more than a bit amusing.

A person who isn't supporting the game with $$$ and is calling for others to not buy stuff from the store is an example of someone living in total loserville. Each person can choose to pay or not, it is their and my choice, not the constant whiners choice.

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That is a bit odd... I say, if you have spare cash, and you want to spend it on Eddie, then fuck yeah. But for me, i'm broke as F. Trying to pay for a wedding coming up next year... No way in hell at this time lol.
I really do appreciate the people who do spend on the game, to keep it running. I love the game, I just wish there was more content already.
Go ahead, nerf my team. I'll just have to work harder, IDC.