Well that's disproportional to say the least. :SQuote:
Originally Posted by iPoop
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Well that's disproportional to say the least. :SQuote:
Originally Posted by iPoop
Congratulations to Jofer for getting the 10000. I ran into a wall at the 2500 point range where attacks picked up a lot, was stuck there for probably 2 hours while consistantly winning matches but not gaining points. Overall attacks were down until Saturday.
Ended at rank 31
Attacks 360
Attacked 334
Defense was 16% hold rate but I experimented more. Obviously Corrupt Generals don't stun everyone else at 90% because mine wasn't holding anyone.
Well,
List issue still a problem, Nicko attacked 566 times and got attacked 211? And Patrice attacked 269 and got attacked 402?!?
Wow
Here my stats
Attacked 358
Defenses 288
Some improvement on matchmaking, but still a big issue
This was first week I found out what everyone was complaining about. This week my attacks were 216 and defenses were 310. Ratio of 143%. This was first time this happened to me for weeks I probably had a 40-60% ratio. So looks like the fixing in the attack list got me but didn't help some others.
a buddy of mine had an interesting theory that people on the top doesn't show up as often as midranks and lowranks. this seems to be true, every list refresh gives me 80% lower ranks 15% similar ranks and only the occational highrank is there. this would explain the low attack numbers for some top guns like nicko. he is getting attacked even less in reality, because we have to take into account that many attacks leads to many revenges. so maybe ge got only attacked 50 times from a list and 150times through revenges or something like that.
last week i was also benefiting from less attacks so that it was pretty doable to come into top 50, this week i got more attacks, let'S see how this will continue. anyway it's highly unfair, as i wrote in another thread because someone with 400 attacks cannot be competitive in the arena when you compare him with someone who has only 150 or less attacks (assuming similar initial attack numbers). basicly some guys are playing under different conditions which is kinda rigged. if the devs would stop punishing defense losses this wouldn't be an issue. but with this point system is making this disbalances even worse. they unintentionally support the unfairness. they should at least remove point losses till matchmaking is fixed imo. try a more positive approach and let people profit from holds without loosing on losses and you will see more happy pvp players out there i guarantee.
Which makes complete sense, there are way more people in the low and mid ranks so of course you're going to show up more. It has to be setup that way, if higher ranks always showed up, everyone would only attack us. With win rates so high it would be pointless to do anything but cherry pick higher ranks for more points per win. No reason to clear a list, just cherry pick the high ranks and reset over and over. That would destroy the system even more with the current settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
Put in the work and grind up to the top, people shouldnt be gifted the chance to face people that are putting way more effort into the game and easily drag them down. Everyone seems to have a bit of entitlement that they should be able to put in minimal effort and get the same results as people who put in more, I just disagree.
This is how all ladder style competition works in pretty much every game I've played. You don't face the top unless you grind up to it.
Leading to an easy living on top, burn some at the begining of the week and rest on your lovorics while others get stuck and frustrated, please don't encourage that unfairness. Whatever you man say can't be taken into account as an abuser of broken system and definite outlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Anyhow, I had a feeling it will be like this, as I wrote 2 months ago, in that 1., 2., 3. Threads in general discussion, when noone cared (with a few exceptions of honest and reasonable guys) so I gave it a push early in the week and I enjoyed easy living not showing up on lower ranked lists.
Give it a check on those threads as I saw some similar ides poping out recently.
On Tuesday, when ranking settled, my lists were full of siege with owerpowerd, taunt overrated, shield owertweaked, owertweaked by all means SSD, on who I still admire the work of Sparton, where I lost most of the fights not owning pris. It was so disappointing for me being right I virtually stoped, and let me slide down. had at that moment 250 att made.
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i get your point but i if you attack 1500 times you should receive more attacks than some random top 100 guy who only uses his natural gained sow everything. it seems that nicko doesn't show up on many lists. sure there are less top 25 guys than midrank guys but i'm talking about that the top guns could be attacked far less often then their deserved and intended share due to a broken matchmaking. it's just a theory so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
and what's your definition of top? a top 100 guy should be able to see some top 10 guys from time to time some top 50 guy should be able to see them even more IMO, while a top 1000 guy shouldn't see them at all. so it's just a matter of balance and it could easily be that the current system is still broken as hell.
EDIT: just saw caretakers reply, yeah early rushes could be the solution to get rid of the annoying attacks and then grinding all alone in the top ranges. so basicly the rich are getting richer again and benefiting even more than they should. i agree that people who put in more effort have to had some advantage (just balance it ;) )
If you think it's easy on top then do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caretaker
Yeah I was just going to edit, would be nice if people on the top saw each other more, I rarely see Nicko it seems like and don't remember my last list with him in it. May be a factor of the new feature to reduce multiple attacks though.Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki