True but why is the Magus alone a 4* and only a 3* with the others ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimDusk
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True but why is the Magus alone a 4* and only a 3* with the others ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimDusk
Oh my goodness! 100 bucks per month? That's some heavy investment. Is that the whale approach we heard so much about? "Thanks" for this payment, I could not reconcile this with my conscience. This is more than what I payed in total since the game was released. On the downside: The developers will feel confirmed in their money grabbing approach, which is dangerous in my opinion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
This is not meant as an offense, but it rather shows what happened to the game. It was a happy peaceful free to play game at the start (there was no PvP in the beginning), moving to slight pay-to-win, onwards to heavy pay-to-win (classic freemium bullshit). What we see now is pay-to-collect (characters that are ONLY available for cash) and pay-to-play with these heavy SoT costs for all the dungeons that are released (at a ridiculously high frequency).
Recently I was around 9k Ironite, I used 2k for event souls in the first awakening event to get 1 LoL and used "some" more to get Magma Eddie and Malakhov. Then I was down to ~3k Ironite. I try to get up high in Ironite again but this is hardly possible with all the expensive dungeons. I planned to leave the game as soon as it is not possible anymore to compete by having good ironite reserves and a good ressource management. It seems like this critical state might be reached more or less soon.
I have one serious question alongside this: Why are you guys farming that new expensive LoL dungeon so intensively? For the awakening materials and the frags that can give the shardbornes, right? Or did I miss something? There is nothing else connected to the actual event that can be missed, apart from the event challenges e.g. grant spell vamp etc. Thanks for answering this! I am a bit lost in the game recently.
I actually farm the Raven Dungeon to get the new awakenable Cultists, and thanks to Bakura (Shadow Wicker Man, MACLO Crimean Soldier & Derby Demon) it goes fast. I don't do it for the frags as I already have all the Shardbornes, Dark Lilith, 4 LoL ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade
I am moving onto the Raven one today I think. I will likely go with the team Bakura developed as well. I just got the Shardborne all done today. No Dark Lilith for me but I did get a Warrior Shardborne from the event souls to complete the set so I can take that as I usually get sweet FA from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk56
You have four LOL! Jeez, how did you manage that! I could get a second but not going for it yet as I was glad to get the Warrior and he is 5 star purple and decent. I have done a couple of Witches up to 2 and 3 purple stars and left them at that for now. 4 LOLS and a Dark Lilith is beastly! LOL. I defo want a Dark Lilith - she is a nightmare, though easily beaten in the LOL 14 - in an arena team or gauntlet in the right team she is going to take a some beating (if at all) is she is paired up with the right set of allies and Eddie.....scary stuff but dont want to buy stuff that I can get eventually so I think I keep my hands in my pockets for now.
I did buy the tour Eddie as I can live with that outlay and it helps keep the lights on I suppose!
The Bakura team is actually the best for Me ... 4 keys and 184 runs ... a few losses but never against the Witch, only the OwlQuote:
Originally Posted by scott-5496
I only miss the assassin LoL. I find dark Lilith a little lame but with the right talis & allies, maybe ...Quote:
Originally Posted by scott-5496
I just dont know what to do right now. I havent tried the ravens run yet. I only have one shardborne and no LoL. I can buy an LoL or wait. I have close to 3000 frags. Did people use thier awakening frags for level materials or did you just run the crap out of the LoL dungeons?
I dont know if I should start running the raven or stay with LoL. I can wait until the next LoL season for my toons.
Similar here, I first need to find out what all these dungeons are about and if they are worth it. So far I was pretty unobstrusive, have not yet played Maya, Airstrip or Raven. I mean they are permanent (or??), so I see no rush as there is nothing time limited with these (please correct me if I am wrong!). From the first view I think only Maya has good rewards, but I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
I used 3 LoL keys during the first event phase for level 12. This was pretty ironite costly already. I used some more event souls to have enough frags to buy 1 LoL (warrior), to awaken him 3 times to get the Valor set. The 3 keys gave a lot of awaken material but not enough for the 3 awakenings. So I used some of the frags to get the upgrade material. This was rather easy and I didn't need many. But I am quite sure this will be different for the higher awakening steps. This time I won't awaken a character, as I don't need a set of oracles. Also I am sure there will be one event or another that has dungeon keys as rewards (at least it says in the august tuning notes that keys can be event rewards). I do not plan to buy another LoL with frags at the moment. I think the Talismans are more important, as we cannot get them anywhere else and all LoLs will be available for FC when the mega-event is over (mid of October).
Until then I try to understand the new meta, what all these new characters can do and where they fit, and I try to get my Ironite stocks up again, as these dungeons really drain your stocks easily.
I bought 7 event soul 10packs plus the challenge reward souls to get 750 frags Dark Lilith. A couple months of stacking 6300 ironite gone in a flash, but the Fear Of Missing Out got the best of me with this event character. Was hesitant with Lucifer on the horizon, but the "free way" of getting DL requires all 5 LoL max awakened clearing dungeon, a massive resource investment that will take serious time. Time that will most likely introduce new better characters that will make DL obsolete when she finally is acquired. And she is REALLY COOL just wish I could get 5 red stars to get the blocking opponent revive passive. That is going to make a great advantage in arena against so many troublesome teams. I wonder how much better Lucifer is? Could be a let down like Killer Beast event finale was to Killer Prime introduced earlier but so much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
As a "free to play" player I concentrate on the most useful toons I got. In my case it's only the Raven Witch. Missing so many toons so it's easy to choose what to do: nothing but wait! Maybe another overpowered toon is published with 3rd part of LOL Event, but I'll never get him (or her?) because of shit RNG and no interest in money spending on 24/7 farming.
Lean back and wait for new bugs to come ... :-D
I ran the LOL dungeons level 14 for my upgrade stuff - not really used that many awekening shards yet - just bought a few warrior packs for my LOL. and from that I also had enough to get my Witch started up to 3 purple stars (and a second one to 2 purple stars). I have done airstrip and half of Mayan so now looking at Raven's Alter to hunt down those targets. It is, at the moment, best place to get 3 star coloured upgrade evo shards which I will need a lot of for Witches and maybe Assassin LOL eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
What was the Lucifer character - assassin too?
Raven's Altar vs. LOL XI-XV
Run Raven's Altar for 3* colored evo shards (best place to get them, every run they drop 2 or 3) and also Awakening frags... to get Awakening materials in special store. Also rare souls, Wicker awakening shard and mimic talis. Book of life/Tarot cards Cosmic evo materials.
LoL 11-14 for random Awakening materials/ Awakening frags/ 3* colorless talis evo runes/ shardborne souls/soul frags. Also colored soul frags, Lol awakening shard and light talis.
Both drop skill shards & FC and usual coins/ironite/SoT/.
Did 4 Raven keys today.... burned last of ironite.... but worth it to evolve 2 awakening toons each another lvl.
Colored Evo runes = rainbow runes?
Rainbow is actually "colorless"... meaning it is not color specific. (universal)Quote:
Originally Posted by URock
If your referring to the comment above, I actually said colored evo shards.... meaning color specific.
The Ravens Altar dungeon drops all 5 different colored evo shards needed to evolve characters and in huge amounts to Awaken LoL's, Raven witch, and D. Lilith. It also drops the 3* rainbow/colorless shards.... but these are pretty common.
The Lol dungeon has the rainbow/colorless 3* runes to evolve talis and cosmic talis.
Both dungeons are a "Hotbed" for those respective resources.
Btw.... when I first saw those terms on the forum, I thought the same as you, but figured it out eventually. It does kinda sound confusing, but I hope I made it clear for you.
@Bakura: ty \m/
LOL 14 you do get really decent rewards - loads of talisman for sure as I had to sell a load of them! I thin if you have the ironite and you want to awaken these two new dungeons are decent and worth doing. Not if you are tight for ironite though. Today I am mostly getting through 104 gold daily dungeon keys...at no real SoT cost to be honest. I never bothered with them so going to see how it goes burning through 100 of them!
Why did You upgrade your 2nd Raven ? Dark Lilith is an assassin too : you will need the evo stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott-5496
Probably because it will be a very long time until I get the Dark Lilith as I can only now get it through achievments which will take ages - so my next assassin focus is likely to be a LOL, not Dark Lilith as I need the LOL to get the Lilith I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk56
I don't know for you people but for me maximum is 7-8 star,it's very hard to go above that...
My Warrior & Magus LoL are 5* level 9, Gunner & Sentinel LoL 3*, Raven 4* & Dark Lilith 3*
Talk about collecting the whole set!Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk56
I have Warrior and Magus LOL at 10 stars, just need the tardis box pieces for the 11th and final level.
My Raven and Dark Lilith are at 8 stars each. The quantity of 3* purple runes are the roadblock there.
I also have Wicker Wolf at 8 stars
What is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Natasmai
The new Wicker Wolf/ Owl/ Ox Characters can be earned from achievements by playing through the Raven‘s Altar. Those are the awakenable Characters beside LoLs and the Raven Witch.Quote:
Originally Posted by URock
Has anyone made the Magus LoL work in PvP? He’s still kinda trash for me. I’ve stuck with malakhov for now.
I'm using him w/ Singularity along side W Lol w/ Vipers, Alex w/ Orbit and an Alchemist with that 2 set talis that won't let him use special or fury, so he's locked in to just basic move to cleanse each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimDusk
I have like 85% defense, but most was probably lower than100 ranked. I've been hanging anywhere from 90 to 110.... just playing a few times a day. I'm so over the AI BS in arena.
But his Dark Ghosting and Doom are great.
I wish singularity was a 5 set, cuz he's not very durable w/ out a good cosmic.
I thought about going back to Malakhov but, I'm bored using the same old toons, even if they work....I like switching it up, just for fun.
But, yeah his pros are: use singularity, d. Ghost and doom.
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Originally Posted by URock
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Some people scoff at these new toons, but once you've experienced them, you realize they're pretty freaking cool.
I have Wicker Wolf Evolved and Wicker Owl Evolved both at level 6.... I will max them when done awakening the LoL's.
They compliment each other. Considering we have to farm the Raven's Altar Dungeon for shards anyway, these are actually a nice bonus!!!Attachment 6245
Btw, for anyone wondering..... there are 3 NEW Awakenable Wicker Characters obtainable by completing the Raven's Altar challenges.
-Wicker Wolf Evolved
-Wicker Owl Evolved
-Wicker Ox Evolved
I have to admit,even tho i scoff at them.he does look pretty cool with his homemade wings
If anyone is still trying to complete challenges in the last few hours, vamp can be inflicted by carriage rider Eddie and by mushasi.
This pack should be modified, only one 5* colourless shard while 25 are required to awaken last level of a character.
It costs 1000 Awakening frags, really expensive.
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Preach it brotha!!!!
Yes.... I fully agree. I opted for opening 3 Awakening souls instead and got a 5* plus extras.
Grinding LoL 14 is better if one could afford to.
This awakening crap is fun and challenging..... but seriously? the resource requirements are way too high.
Very, very few gamers will have maxed awakened toons anytime soon.
Besides with the AI being so jacked and broken in arena, once you finally get a fully Awakened toon, will it really change that much as far as competition.
I sometimes feel that with all the new toons and talis, awakened LoL, even getting all the relics...... my team gets destroyed more than ever in arena.
Irony is when all your hard earned tools, invested time, money and efforts = worse than before.
"And it makes me want to cry, and throw my hands up to the sky
So understand
Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years"
Truth is.. if you aren't investing in PvP heavily.. all of it is unnecessary.. even for the Gauntlet. And certainly the storyline, what little there is of it, requires new characters or "awakened" characters.
At the core of the app there's no real playability once you have defeated Killer Beast in Night city. After that point.. it's all simply FOMO driven....
Your wish is their command!Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
It's coming.
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I agree. There really is little to no need to push for the new shiny thing all that much...but most of us do. I can grind and farm all day If I want to so that is never an issue for me but the new shiny should all be achievable over time for me anyway. Like the pay only characters - I can see why some want them to be exclusive to buyers but I do think they should be available for all at some point. But they have me with these as I want to get the Eddies and I can afford it so I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Also , I suppose they do nto want to say much about these pay only characters - if they were to say they will be available in the future they would not get the early birds liek me buying them so they are playing it the sensible commericial way I guess.
With the release of these awakenable toons I am about to call quits to the game. I have only been going through the motions the last few weeks and slowly falling behind. When the liliths and gods came out it seemed the distance between have and have nots was widening. Now the LoLs and such topped that. These are definetly for end gamers and serious grinders. I just have lost the drive to continue the never ending grind. I'll see it through the the end of the mega event and see how it goes, I now understand why my uncle gave me his account. The grin he gives me when we talk about the game shows he doesnt regrett leaving.
I dont know how newer players even contemplate evolving LoLs and level needed toons for gauntlet and missions. We thought the cosmic talis bottlenecks and grinds were unbearable, but they topped it with the mega event requirements.
O come on.its really not thT bad.at least we dont have a deadline to do it. I dont enjoy the grinding but i do like that us older players have something to work towards when we open the game. Dont give up that easy
This app is impossible without constant and continual SOT refills. 240-360 SOT per day is pathetic.
Let's say you have 50 3* colored evo shards and no awakenable materials. What would it take in time and resources to fully awaken a toon? That's where many players are at, how can they save while having to evolve all the other toons.
I have alot of resources from when I took over, but without mega refills everyday it's hard to stay competitive. That doesnt count on the real money purchase only items. .
How much time and resources have each of the last dungeons cost? I know they are releasing these for long term players to stay interested, but it just causes bigger rifts as time goes by.
Yes. Imagine from the devs standpoint generating content to lure new players and retain old ones. Tough to give a balance for people with few resources something to participate in while not boring players with 300+ maxed sharded characters and all talismans. Awakening gives many of us something to do after you have every character and have done everything. I still love the game and want to continue, new content is appearing sparratically with event dungeons but they burn quickly. Now that we have new ultra powerful characters to Awaken it provides an objective for all the farming and expense. What does a player need a 999 stack of shards for? Good to have a use for all the built up resources, now if they only bring back the gold store...sitting on 250M+ and can't find a good use for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wipp
This arena event is set up great with challenges that require active strategizing rather than 400 wins and stretch goals that made arena events lengthy chores. Mega event is well constructed also, NF is doing a great job of generating interest for participation. Building suspense for what lurks behind the curtain we are eagerly awaiting the ultimate character in stage 3. And thanks for not NERFING anymore, making a countermeasure via new talisman or character hurts way less than reducing the strength of a character or talisman set we work hard to get and upgrade.
They just nerfed Gambler... just saying...