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I'm just finishing up my 300 runs with Lilith and wondering what would be good talismans for the Cosmic LOL for my next 300?
Just got the material to max the Cosmic LOL so haven't had time to play around with it and can't find any posts with suggestions.
The rest of my team is Van Helsing Eddie(Yin/Yang), AWW(Forge), and W LOL (vipers) and had Lilith Nightmoon with Sacred and Mark.
When it comes time to run Lucy, I saw someone say Scared and Mark on him too, or is there something better?
You could try celestial, orbit. I am using ying yang. Both BHE and Cyborg is faster than VHE..
I am using D Lilith, BHE, Cosmic LoL and new Wrath. Wrath has starburst. He may die sometimes but alot if the times you win without taking a turn.
Here's a list for the awakening requirements for current & upcoming "Awakenable" characters.
Thanks Durandal!
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Has anyone run XII and received 4* awakenable shards? I am in desperate need of those 4*. 8f another level gives better drops let me know.
I am doing the same - XV was pretty poor for them. So I went to XIV and XIII - not much better but a little better I think and less likely to get the 5 star drops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
Scott are you running XII or XIII? I ran 8 mega refills in XV and only 5 4* shards dropped.
What drop rate are you getting?
One mega refill today in XIV and I got 4. One mega refill on XIII and I got 2. I am staying in XIV for now as need my Lucy maxed before I hit XV again and do that achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
I ran 500 runs in LOL XV last night and today to get the stretch goal from the previous event.
First 172 runs I got zero colored 5* shards and 1 colored 4*. I wasn't tracking colorless the first 172.
In the next 276 runs I got 1 red 5*, 1 blue 4* and 20 5* colorless and 23 4* colorless.
In the last 52+ runs I got 1 red 5*, zero 4* colors, 27 5* clear and 10 4* clear.
The drops seems extremely low for all of the 4* and 5* items.
Those drops really suck. I need 200 4* colorless. Lots of LoLs or 100K awakening frags. That doesnt count any new toons to be released.
Does anyone have steroids for my hamster, otherwise I'll need to replace him a few tims.
Fast LoL XV runs aren't really a priority, because of SoT cost being the real issue, but I'm curious what people are running. I'm running at about 1:30, but somehow my top run is 0:41 (not sure of that team)
Maxed Horus - T3/Blight/Persecution
Maxed Cyborg - T3/Sacred/Serenity
Prince Wrath - Starfire
Assassin Wolf - Yin/Yang
Basically, they attack me, get reflected damage, die, revive with no buffs, attack me again, Ass Wolf counter-attacks, they counter-attack, get reflected damage again and die.
If Horus ever goes, it's his basic. If Cyborg ever goes, it's his Fury.
Any better strategy, or more fun to watch, than this?
I tell ya.... Scrooge Ed (Destiny) + Prince Wrath.... that last battle is won in the blink of an eye. Talismans aren't really that much of a factor although the Destiny on Scrooge is absolutely helpful. The other two can be your choice. W LOL with Orbits is a good call though.
I average around 40 sec runs and 99% of that is in the battles leading up to the last one.
Scrooge Ed removing buffs when attacked, then Wrath inflicting crave pretty much wipes out Lucifer before you ever attack anyone.
All five of the colourless ones can drop from XII. It's not much, but in 100 runs of XII over the past two character fragment events, I had three of the 4* awakening shards drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
Not sure why, but I'm still quite surprised how difficult XIII and XIV are. That non-disableable Dark Lilith passive sure is a thing! Can see why Charlotte is so highly recommended, will have to try again once I get here in a few more weeks.
Yeah XII isn’t the place for 4 star shards
That is the same team I run with the exception of Max Lilith over Horus. She prevents the revive at the end. But basically Wrath (Starfire) and Assassin werewolf (forge) is enough by itself to clear XV. Use whatever eddie you have that can survive and the 4th character can be whatever you need for the achievements (whichever maxed LOL you are running)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ydex
I'm 7sint the following fastest 0:39 average sub 1 minute
D lilith. Sacred/serenity/cosmic
Scrooge. Destiny/cosmic/mythic green
W LoL. Orbit
D wrath. Labb/cosmic
Scrooge rules this dungeon in combo with d wrath
Maybe I should also open my scrooge soul then, lol :) But I don't have dark wrath yet. And it's not really about the run times for me. Apparently I will never get rid of all these keys, I have ~130 atm.
The drop rates for 4* and 5* materials are really bad. I kind of accepted that 5* just don't exist as drops. But also 4* are almost non-existent. Went to LOL14 to go for 4*...well I got 2 within a full key. So maybe it's more about the awakening souls and the gamble for materials. Unfortunately I am also having bad luck there. ALL awakening souls I opened so far yielded e.g. ONE blue 5* shard. Other classes are a bit better, especially warrior (what a surprise that I bought the expensive packs early to max my warrior LoL...).
Has LoL15 the best Ironite/awakening frags ratio?
12 mega refills and 9 souls and I only pulled 22 4* awakening shards. That drop rate sucks the big one.
400 frags per mega refill.
If you want frags labyrinth dungeon is the best place and alot cheaper if you have the keys.
22 colorless shards?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
Labyrinth gives awakening frags, and with a better ratio than the LoL dungeon? Sound strange, but ok... apparently I am really losing track with this game!
All the nice ironite I built up with hard sacrifice work just flies away with all this grinding for small rewards :/
Blade, yes i did mean colorless shards. That has become a bottleneck for many.
The Lab dungeon gives way more awakening frags per SoT than LoL. It's a trade off if you need gold/purple 3* evo shards and frags labs the way to go. LoL does drop frags and random awaken mats, but is quite expensive.
With prisoner coming to be awakenable you will need 1800 gold shards to max LoL cosmic LoL, cyborg and prisoner. I found average 40-50 gold shards per lab key. If you have lab keys it a relatively cheap dungeon to run. Ironite return is 30-60+%.
Thanks a lot muzzle for all that valuable information! ...and for setting my motivation to almost Zero. These numbers read terrible - who has time and ironite for all that??
I have already accepted to fall behind (a lot), as I just cannot keep up with all the time and ironite/money demand the game has nowadays. Do they think we are all school kids and retirees? Remember when it was enough to play an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening and a bit more to complete events? Your uncle would laugh out loudly :) Now you "should" play 24/7 if you want to follow all things they have thrown at us. Awakening, cosmics and dungeons are like permanent events in my perspective.
Anyway, back to topic. I think during this event I will continue grinding one of the higher LoL dungeons to get some more materials and frags. Don't know my goal yet, but 1 additional set of vipers would be nice. Would be then 3 in total for us non-buyers. By now, I should already have enough 4 and 5* colorless and at least for 2 classes enough 5* color shards to fully awaken the respective LOL, but will need to buy some of the awakening packs for the steps in between, as all materials are scarce. Probably I'll wait for the next spending event to buy the LOLs then. So maybe I can get Dark Lilith this year already ;)
I wouldnt be here if I wasnt given an account well stocked. I to am falling behind and it's getting easier not to care. I have gave serious thoughts to quitting. In the mean time I try to stay somewhat current just in case.
This 4* bottleneck makes me feel like a drunk sailor in the brig on payday. I have resources to spend , but am unable.
My team for max awakened Lucifer achievement:-Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoLagarto
Scrooge Eddie with Destiny, Random Green, Cosmic
Maxed Lucifer with Vorpal, Tranquility, Cosmic
Charlotte with Orbits
Gunner Ghost with Ragnarok/Cosmic
3 Mega refill no defeats Avg time 1:15min best 55sec.
Here’s a great Lol XV team that doesn’t include any of the OP characters or max relics
Warrior Lol (max): Valour
Eternal Champ Eddie: Mark Sacred Ascension cosmic
Killer Prime: Greed Warlord
Charlotte: Ragnarok life cosmic
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Originally Posted by Beddie
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Originally Posted by Beddie
erm... really? :)
hahahah xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Ok lemme rephrase thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Without Characters like Dark Lilith, Van Helsing or Assassin Wolf
Yes... my thoughts exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
As for 4* colorless awakening shards, the next update brings some much needed changes to make getting shards easier.Attachment 7559
Always got enough 4*s from XIV & XV and this change for sure means, we will get less 5*s. So not really looking forward to this, but we will see...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
In the beginning, there were not enough 5* colorless... then they increased the droprate. Since then, we noticed a lack of 4* colorless... now they are going to increase that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GotN
You're theory could be true. One type could squeeze out the other.
The solution would be that multiple types could drop simultaneously or maybe less rare souls or power up shards, and more awakening shards.... I would make that trade.
I hope it helps, I'm sitting on 7 toons to awaken but no 4*. That's clos to 90k frags if you bought the 4*. Instead of changing the drop rate the could have changed the required amount of awakening shards needed.
I agree.
Plus, they could increase quantities in the paks we buy w/ awakening frags.
Those paks have enough of some and not nearly enough of others.
Requiring 25 of something yet the paks give 1 or 2, is a slow boat to nowhere, especially when after 3 mega refills you're still not half way there.
They indicated that the next update may be next week for the new drop rates. I may hold off on the LoL . Running 50 LoL doesnt even take a whole keys worth of time.
That's really nice to see and long awaited. Thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
Also, it shows they're reacting upon forum comments and not ignoring them.
Good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by ritchbe
So many have left for Discord chat rooms.
But if no one posts here, they won't know what we're thinking.
Facebook is nothing but complaining.... so that doesn't really help.
Completely agree with you Bakura, we need to complain here more often :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
I wish they'd lower colorless rune requirements.. like from 50 to 25... I understand setting barriers initially when a feature is introduced. But these have been around long enough that frustration starts to set it due to not being able to acquire materials in an effective timeframe... especially if grind events don't drop that specific material. Kind of like how getting cosmic talismans was a chore for a couple months, then they've slowly made them more accessible by dropping frags everywhere. So. more 1 and 2 star colored and colorless runes.. more colored awakening runes.. just more runes please :)
On the bright side, I have noticed skull quests are occasionally dropping 15 1 or 2 star colored runes.. which is quite different than the traditional 1-3 runes. It wouldn't hurt to make achievement drop 15-30 runes rather than 3-6. Like add a pack of runes or awakening materials to things like "300 runs in Powerslave with max awakened Horus". The current rewards are decent, but they could really make that grind (and cost) something desirable for users.
And speaking of the powerslave dungeon.. why doesn't it drop sentinel class stuff like shards and runes?? I get blue evo stones.. why not green? May be the blue stones I saw were due to event challenges.. so it may have been a fluke.
Powerslave dungeon can drop Green, Blue, and Colourless 3* Evo Shards. The green and blue can look rather similar, but you weren't mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
It would be so much less confusing if they merely made the rewards match the dungeon..
Powerslave.. all green or colorless rewards (including awakening materials on rare occasions - even just the 1 or 2 star)
Infernal - All purple or colorless rewards (including awakening materials on rare occasions - even just the 1 or 2 star)
Labyrinth - all yellow or colorless rewards (including awakening materials on rare occasions - even just the 1 or 2 star)
Trooper - all red or colorless rewards (including awakening materials on rare occasions - even just the 1 or 2 star)
.. guess there really isn't a magus dungeon, unless you count the Frozen dungeon
Been slowly working through these for my own reference. I still really struggle with XIII and XIV, but will finally be getting Charlotte in only three more weeks, and everything should become much easier.
Nice job Azagthor once again! \m/