Amazing Flight Dungeon Strategies

So.. I love the new dungeon and made it through madness no problem with the current line up I use as my goto ( Hallowed Eddie, Astra, Raven Witch, Pharoah Dog King Assassin) and I leveled the new Persecution talismans all the way up and slapped em on my Hallowed Eddie... but the first wave of enemies completely eviscerated my team... I was wondering if any of you fellow troopers had a strategy for this new beasty.

P.S. I also got nothing of value other than the fragments for the first 6 puzzling souls aqcuired by beating the dungeon up to madness difficulty but the event is still young after all.

I did fine on the waves 1-4 with Angel Ed(Radiant/Sustaining), Gunner Ninja(Invisibility/Void), Gunner Krampus(Alchemy/Cosmic) and Osiris(random red and greens). Had a bit of rough luck on that last wave and could probably beat it with higher level talismans.

The rewards didn't really seem worth it though.

Yeah I need to up my talisman game, I used Perfect Immortality on both Raven Witch and Astra, and the only good red talismans for Hallowed Eddie I have fully leveled are the Thorn Shield talismans which are ok I guess. I need to focus on getting event talismans more I think...

Why won't the madness dungeon autoplay? it stops after every run (using only Sentinel Characters).

Victory!
Auto-play in 3....2....1...
auto-play has ended.

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Originally Posted by Yup

Why won't the madness dungeon autoplay? it stops after every run (using only Sentinel Characters).

Victory!
Auto-play in 3....2....1...
auto-play has ended.

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What team?

So here’s what I’ve noticed to be the problem: Angel Ed has some of the worst AI in the game. He almost never uses his revive ability which would entirely save the last wave. I’m going to try again with hallowed Ed.

Thats good to know being that he and the gambler are such a high FC cost thanks

Hallowed Ed can’t survive either. The game has to be baby sat for the last wave, it seems, as targeting anyone other than FoI Eddie will lead to a loss since the game auto chooses Icarus, whose death will lead to the other characters gaining revenge and killing your team.

Also noticing when doing the hard challenge the last fight glitches and just freezes before attacking. Or is it just me

Btw is it just me or did they just make "Madness" hard and make "Insanity" the old Madness?

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Originally Posted by Neebs

Btw is it just me or did they just make "Madness" hard and make "Insanity" the old Madness?

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In a sense, yes, but I do like this better. It is much more graded, instead of the usual hard=easy & Madness=impossible!

The 1 turn Time Bomb pretty much stops any team. This new Eddie feels like he could be busted.

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Originally Posted by GrimDusk

The 1 turn Time Bomb pretty much stops any team. This new Eddie feels like he could be busted.

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he IS busted....


1 turn Doom means.. death.. but wait until the AI is finish hitting... then kill. The Doom kicks in BEFORE ANY ACTION can be taken. They had this SAME PROBLEM with Ferryman and had to correct it.. and what do they do... the same thing again!!!!! These devs really are blind when it comes to details.

I finished it.. had to use G Anubis to prevent doom for the gunner runs. I did those 15 gunner runs on manual...

Insanity is a snap with Gambler, Witch, Musashi (alchemy), and KP. Most of the time the AI enemy never even gets a turn after that first battle. But the SOT cost is too great vs rewards after you run it 15 times with gunners... .. so I dropped down to Hard for the achievements. If rewards were better I might just run Insanity.. but they are really kind of pathetic given the overall difficulty.

As for the new Ed.. he can't even beat his OWN dungeon. He's mid-level at best. Not going to change PvP at all probably. The minotaurs I have (missing M and W) are decent mid-range characters. Power moves are good, but basics aren't fantastic. Passives are decent but not that imperative overall. Great PvE characters perhaps, not PvP though.

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Originally Posted by GrimDusk

So here’s what I’ve noticed to be the problem: Angel Ed has some of the worst AI in the game. He almost never uses his revive ability which would entirely save the last wave. I’m going to try again with hallowed Ed.

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He's still the best.. I had to do 15 manual runs just for this reason.. Angel's AI is moronic at times.

Angel
G Hierophant (Vipers)
G Krampus (Alchemy)
G Anubis (Health and Serenity)

Kill the Minotaurs first in each battle, then just kill Icarus Ed in the last battle, ignoring all the other enemies there.

The Orbit Talismans on the lowly cultists in that first battle are interesting... and if anyone's wondered if Space talismans are worth it.. well that ALL this dungeon uses for bosses pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Neebs

Btw is it just me or did they just make "Madness" hard and make "Insanity" the old Madness?

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I was actually thinking the same thing and honestly I think it has a better build to the difficulty, at least speaking as someone who isnt too long of a veteran and is still building their collection.

I used G lilith on my team and had a cosmic talis with death mark. That help set the kill Ed on the last wave.

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Originally Posted by Muzzleloader

I used G lilith on my team and had a cosmic talis with death mark. That help set the kill Ed on the last wave.

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Same.... My G Krampus has Alchemy and a Cosmic with Death mark (because I generally don't need him using the healing power move and he'll actually use Deathmark more often on auto)

Well, a few hours ago i win the two (five star) Minotaurs and boy, they are really awesome together, i beat the Madness level of the dungeon with this two Minotaurs, The Killer and Executioner Eddie.

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Originally Posted by Yup

he IS busted....


1 turn Doom means.. death.. but wait until the AI is finish hitting... then kill. The Doom kicks in BEFORE ANY ACTION can be taken. They had this SAME PROBLEM with Ferryman and had to correct it.. and what do they do... the same thing again!!!!! These devs really are blind when it comes to details.

I finished it.. had to use G Anubis to prevent doom for the gunner runs. I did those 15 gunner runs on manual...

Insanity is a snap with Gambler, Witch, Musashi (alchemy), and KP. Most of the time the AI enemy never even gets a turn after that first battle. But the SOT cost is too great vs rewards after you run it 15 times with gunners... .. so I dropped down to Hard for the achievements. If rewards were better I might just run Insanity.. but they are really kind of pathetic given the overall difficulty.

As for the new Ed.. he can't even beat his OWN dungeon. He's mid-level at best. Not going to change PvP at all probably. The minotaurs I have (missing M and W) are decent mid-range characters. Power moves are good, but basics aren't fantastic. Passives are decent but not that imperative overall. Great PvE characters perhaps, not PvP though.

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Any other toon could work like Misashi? I didn't get him yet. I tried teams like:
Gambler (warlord, tomb)
Raven Witch (future, fate)
KP (fate, heal)
using fourth toon
Redan (destiny, sustaining) or
Madam (singularity) or
M Lilith (alchemy, 1 cosmic) or
Horus (energy, immunity, 1 cosmic).

Any other suggestions?

I'm LeoLagarto-6793
You can watch my entire team for suggestions.

Thx

Leo, what level are you trying to clear?

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Originally Posted by Muzzleloader

Leo, what level are you trying to clear?

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Insane Muzzleloader

Leo.. I use Musashi for basically the Alchemy talismans. If you have a character with Alchemy talismans, just swap it out for Musashi.

If you don't have Alchemy talismans, then Witch Doctor or The Alchemists are good bets since they both clear buffs. And.. if you have the new Orbit set of talismans.. they will clear buss as well.

Charlotte is also a good call due to her "immune to silver" passive.


Without any of these.. then look for a character to clear buffs or shield.. S Maclo may be a decent alternative.

If it helps, I’ve been using my magus derby demon w/ vipers with angel of death for the perfect bleed bonuses and great AoD defense, as well as KP with greed and warlord talis for insane damage buff capability, as well as using pharaoh Ed for golden buff removal and revives. Also, be careful if you’re stacking buffs as gold Minotaur will steal them all and absolutely wreck your team.

For what its worth the Madness level first wave with flight eddie has some major issues with the fury move among others. I am not impressed to say the least. If you watch he will inflict the silver effects on characters that have no existing burn effects, the rest of the characters strike and then typically you die.

I broke through on Insanity with this Gunner team: Angel Eddie (Immunity/Angel/Cosmic), Anubis (Persecution/Health/Cosmic), Banshee (Space), & Golden Pharaoh Dog (Radiant/Advantage).

Gray flannel, if you gave a cosmic with death mark that works great on Eddie in the final wave.

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Originally Posted by Yup

Leo.. I use Musashi for basically the Alchemy talismans. If you have a character with Alchemy talismans, just swap it out for Musashi.

If you don't have Alchemy talismans, then Witch Doctor or The Alchemists are good bets since they both clear buffs. And.. if you have the new Orbit set of talismans.. they will clear buss as well.

Charlotte is also a good call due to her "immune to silver" passive.


Without any of these.. then look for a character to clear buffs or shield.. S Maclo may be a decent alternative.

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Thanks for your suggestions Yup.
I have Alchemy and Orbit talismans, but I didn't get Musashi or Charlotte yet.

I will try different sets with Witch Doctor or Alchemist and talismans you suggested.

I was just looking for one good direction to avoid losing more SoT.
Thank you again.

Finally completed the Insanity level myself. I used Hallowed Eddie (Invisibility, Thorn Sheild) as well as Shadow Wicker Eddie (Alchemy, Cosmic Health), the allies were Raven Witch (Purge, Immortal), Alchemist (Persecution, Immortal) and Gunner Lillith (Soul, Advantage). It was a grind and I lost Lillith a couple times but thanks to your guys advice I was able to make it through. Much appreciated, the Alchemy/Alchemist effects made all the difference since I dont have some of the higher cost characters yet like KP and Angel Eddie.

That must have been one long haul with that team. Did you try life talisman on lilith for the passive immunity? I used energy, life and cosmic on my lilith.

I finally completed the Insanity level. I'm very thankful for all suggestions buddies. I used:
Gambler Eddie (tumb, warlord)
KP (fate, heal)
Clairvoyant (Alchemy, cosmic void)
Alchemist (eternity, cosmic HP+).
All four survived above 75% healthy.