November Events

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I'm late posting this so let's go over it!

Reaper Of Souls: Already have this event out, not a bad one whatsoever.
Crimson Blades: Samurai Frontier Dungeon, based on how there are two dungeon events this month.
Perilous Journey: Another evolution event, this time I believe it'll be talisman upgrades.
The Chosen Dead: Could be a talisman set from sacrifice or new characters, not sure. I believe it'll have to do with some sort of dog spirit, as the next event is:
Inugami, Dog Spirit: Another fragment event with likely a few talismans.
Frozen Skulls: Skull quests event focused on freeze talismans? No clue.
The Beast Within: This'll be the "Black Friday Event," so it'll likely be a chance to get your hands on the beast again.
Cyborg Monday: The same dungeon from last year, I'm assuming.

Clearly Cyborg Monday will have something to do with Awakening Cyborg Ed.. as seen by the screw up in today's update.

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Originally Posted by Yup

Clearly Cyborg Monday will have something to do with Awakening Cyborg Ed.. as seen by the screw up in today's update.

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What screw up?

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Originally Posted by Mateja

What screw up?

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>this one<

Everytime i think at the mess they are doing i go :facepalm:, seriously, i still can't believe this is true lmao

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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

>this one<

Everytime i think at the mess they are doing i go :facepalm:, seriously, i still can't believe this is true lmao

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Oh wow, that is a new way to fuck up. And no reversal at that. Nice

A partial reversal will be given in time.

Guy Fawkes Eddie advertising, but not available? Next bug?

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Originally Posted by URock

Guy Fawkes Eddie advertising, but not available? Next bug?

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Same here.

Man they really hosed things this month :)

Where is Guy Fawkes? It is advertised as available.

He's available now; can't add him to the tier list until I get a chance to try him, and I don't plan on purchasing him.

Gay Fawkes Ed is absolutely the WEAKEST Ed ever. He hits like a Sandworm.. Mummy Eddie will do more damage. He's supposed to be a 4 star.. but I think this is officially the first ONE STAR Eddie (not counting the Cyborg screw up earlier this week).

Seriously.. fully skill shared and with full talismans he does like MAYBE 2K damage when he attacks (running Night City Words of Warning). And he takes 24 Skill Shards.... So.. I swapped full talismans for some otherwise wasted sets...... he'll simply collect dust.


HORRIBLE value for the price. 24 skill shards for 2k damage... are the devs simply stoned???

Does he not have at least one gimmicky effect? Additional damage based on something or extra turn based on something?? Unrestricted talisman slots??

[I predicted it over a year ago]
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MetalKing said: 11-07-2018 01:19 AM
guy fawkes sale
Has anyone purchased the sale? Do you think the other items in it Other Than the temp relics are worth the price?
Also, who is with me-i want a guy fawkes Eddie.

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Originally Posted by Ydex

Does he not have at least one gimmicky effect? Additional damage based on something or extra turn based on something?? Unrestricted talisman slots??

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Nope.. just time bombs.. which are typically the weakest of all buffs.Passive grants Magma Shield to all.. but meh.. easily beaten. Passive fires timebombs if enemy is sleeping.. but he's only got 1 ability with a 50% chance to sleep.. everything else is burns.. would have made more sense to grant Sleep shield to all allies rather than Magma Shield.

He's seriously about the worst ed.. worse than the "for sale" 3 stars like Lone Star, Ed Hunter, and Gangland Ed. The others can at least kill an ememy.. All Guy Fawkes does is tickle them.... Seriously full power and the MOST damage he'll do is MAYBE 5k. Mummy Ed does around 6k.

The talismans you get with him appear to be a decent set.. block 25% damage, inflict timebombs.. they are actually better than the Ed himself. I've never been a huge fan of timebombs though. They have only ever worked well with Major M...


FYI.. 2 yellow 1 red slot for him.. damage increased based on DEF and Special.. I've got him leveled out on both with Onslaught Mimics and an Iron set...


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He still hits like a nervous kindergartner...

I've never seen a time bomb go off

Sure you have.. Major Malkov inflicts them.. then they go off and stun your entire team :) That is the ONLY use for timebombs.. everywhere else they are largely useless.

I'm sure in the next update you'll see correction for damage not correctly scaling or increasing base and scaling damage or damage not scaling with skill shards. Dark Lilith had the skill shard problem until a future update and she was part of a mega event. In this game you can almost guarantee that anything new added, features, talismans, characters, etc. won't work properly. It's been that way since day 1

Weak damage, 2 yellow 1 red, and damage scales off of DEF and Special?

Onslaught Chance and Fierce Strike

At least he will hit more often and maybe get crits.

Maybe he is supposed to be weak. Since the scheme he was involved with failed maybe he is also designed to fail. He even failed at being properly executed. Maybe he should have a hangman's noose around his neck, but that is already being used by hallowed Ed. They could have made a skill that had something to do with explosives that work less often than explosive talisman.

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Maybe he is supposed to be weak. Since the scheme he was involved with failed maybe he is also designed to fail. He even failed at being properly executed. Maybe he should have a hangman's noose around his neck, but that is already being used by hallowed Ed. They could have made a skill that had something to do with explosives that work less often than explosive talisman.

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His animations are throwing timebombs basically.. which inflict burns for the most part. Visually he's okay.. but the terribly weak damage HAS to be some sort of oversight. No Ed to date does less than 6K damage once fully skill sharded... no Ed.. except this one.

I'd accept the "supposed to be weak" aspect if there was some move or ability that made him worth using. But as he stands.. he really has no use. He doesn't inflict enough negative buffs to outweigh many other characters, and he does nothing to support allies other than the Magma Shield. Frankly, I'm struggling to think of even a "combo" of allies that would make his abilities more worthwhile... Stronger toons inflict burns.. or time bombs.. or offer the magma shield... There's really absolutely NOTHING special or unique about him.

Unbelievable that people pay real money for this April fool's joke.
I hear laughing frogs.

Also wanna say that Warrior Savage Reaper and Flight Of Icarus Eddie are also great with timebombs

Yeah if you put Echo talismans on warrior Savage Reaper, he's laying them and setting them off pretty often. Other than that I almost never see them go off either.

Good afternoon all,

I have been investigating reports regarding the state of Guy Fawkes Eddie. I'm seeing comments that he is bugged and that his damage is the lowest of any Eddie. After some testing, I cannot seem to find any evidence of this. If I'm missing something, please let me know.

I have been using this character to complete the current event dungeon with a fair amount of success, so I wonder what might be causing this perception to occur. While there are many options to counter Burns and Time Bombs in Arena, I've found that Guy Fawkes Eddie's reliable multi-target damage and effects can help tear through PVE content...so long as you bring some form of reliable Immunity removal if you need it.

I've been experimenting with Awakened Assassin Lord of Light and Wrathchild for such a purpose. It's also pretty neat that your damage is not punished for building defensive and utility stats, but that's my two cents. I feel like his power abilities are a little expensive though. Perhaps I'll try finding a spot for Future Talismans on my teams to see if there's a payoff.

In the following comparative image, we have Guy Fawkes Eddie and Mummy Eddie (both maxed out) use a single hit AOE ability in the Warrior Lord of Light dungeon, Floor X. While Guy Fawkes Eddie deals physical damage instead of Mummy Eddie's magic damage, there's still quite a difference. The portions marked with #1 are the characters without any talismans. The portions marked with #2 are the characters equipped with talismans that specifically scale to their abilities.

Guy Fawkes Eddie's attack scales with DEF and SPECIAL so in my test I had 5 Onslaught Gunner Talismans.
Mummy Eddie's attack scales with HP so in my test I had 5 Mystical Sentinel Talismans.

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Still, if you have any uncertainties or if you have discovered any new issues I might not be aware of - please share them! It's always appreciated.

So he's better than Mummy Eddie.

Interesting; I don't have this Ed so I can't judge really, but he may move up the tier list if this is the case.

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Originally Posted by Durandal_LOTB

Good afternoon all,

I have been investigating reports regarding the state of Guy Fawkes Eddie. I'm seeing comments that he is bugged and that his damage is the lowest of any Eddie. After some testing, I cannot seem to find any evidence of this. If I'm missing something, please let me know.

I have been using this character to complete the current event dungeon with a fair amount of success, so I wonder what might be causing this perception to occur. While there are many options to counter Burns and Time Bombs in Arena, I've found that Guy Fawkes Eddie's reliable multi-target damage and effects can help tear through PVE content...so long as you bring some form of reliable Immunity removal if you need it.

I've been experimenting with Awakened Assassin Lord of Light and Wrathchild for such a purpose. It's also pretty neat that your damage is not punished for building defensive and utility stats, but that's my two cents. I feel like his power abilities are a little expensive though. Perhaps I'll try finding a spot for Future Talismans on my teams to see if there's a payoff.

In the following comparative image, we have Guy Fawkes Eddie and Mummy Eddie (both maxed out) use a single hit AOE ability in the Warrior Lord of Light dungeon, Floor X. While Guy Fawkes Eddie deals physical damage instead of Mummy Eddie's magic damage, there's still quite a difference. The portions marked with #1 are the characters without any talismans. The portions marked with #2 are the characters equipped with talismans that specifically scale to their abilities.

Guy Fawkes Eddie's attack scales with DEF and SPECIAL so in my test I had 5 Onslaught Gunner Talismans.
Mummy Eddie's attack scales with HP so in my test I had 5 Mystical Sentinel Talismans.

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Still, if you have any uncertainties or if you have discovered any new issues I might not be aware of - please share them! It's always appreciated.

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Fine, he's not the lowest damage.

It's still not anywhere near worth buying with such low output and I still think his benefits still don't outweigh that low output. They are easily removed by many of other toons. Pairing with strong characters such as wrathchild and Assassin LoL doesn't make him any less weak, if those two toons don't get to take their turn you're out of luck.

I'll most likely wait until he get's his free release.

I was running Night City Words of Warning with Fawkes.... He was hitting for roughy 2k damage for the AOE and around 6K for the multi-hit single target attack. There were times whenthe HP bar on enemies literally showed no change.

Now granted, that's higher tier battle. However, Let's compare him to other purchasable (3 star) Eddies....

All maxed with skill shards...

Fawkes (Chance [3Will max], Ruin [1Over/1Myst max], Cosmic [yellow T2 Void HP+14k, D+1.6k, MR +1.2k)
Ed Hunter (Fallen [4Barrier but only 4 star lvl 40], Ruin [1Over/1Ward max])
Gangland (Nightmare [3Barrier max], Angel [3Onslaught max])
Lone Star (Dominance [3Fierce max], Ruin [2Mystical Max], Cosmic [White T2 Immortality HP +2K, D +108, Sp +112])
Tour (Trooper [3Fierce, 2Safeguard max], Cosmic [Blue T1 Chance HP +2.2k, D+110, MR +131])

Night City Lord of the Flies -- I realize in some instances class variation will account for damage variation. Sentinel and Gunner Eds should do more damage. I also realize that Chance on Fawkes should make him do more damage.... I'm just far too lazy to go remove talismans and then spend 30-45 minutes swiping left left left left left left to assign them again.

Lone Ed in battle, no supporting characters (so I lost all these battles - sometimes more than once to get a perfect hit :) ).....

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One hit on Killer Beast, present basic, perfect hit
Guy Fawkes - 10.2K (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Ed Hunter - 2.1k
Gangland - 4.2 (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Lone Star - 6.9k
Tour - 6.2K

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One hit on Killer Beast, past basic, perfect hit
Guy Fawkes - 5.6k (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Ed Hunter - 4.5k
Gangland - 12k (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Lone Star - 6.8k (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Tour - No damage (as expected)

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One hit on Killer Beast, future basic, perfect hit
Guy Fawkes - 7.2k (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Ed Hunter - 2.3k (multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Gangland - 18K (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Lone Star - 12.5k (Multi-hit - best guess watching the numbers)
Tour - 2.9K


For comparison....

Mummy Ed (Destiny [2Power/2Arcane max], Crystal [2Ward max])....

Present Basic - 2.8k
Past Basic - No Damage (as Expected)
Future Basic - 3k

So yeah.. I jsut blew upwards of 150 SOT to test all this :)

So with these numbers, I think he's okay. And inline with a 4 star compared to the others listed above which are all 3 stars.. I wasn't expecting him to be the next arena "must have".

When I was complaining about him after getting him.. and playing him for the next hour or two -- these were NOT the numbers I was seeing. In fact I was LUCKY if Fawkes EVER did more than 2K damage for ANY attack on ANY character in Night City (madness). Something changed between then and now.

It seems i was wrong.. Ed Hunter is closer to Mummy Ed that Fawkes is.. but then My Ed hunter is the only one without maxed talismans.

I do think that as a purchasable character where stats are COMPLETELY UNKNOWN until AFTER purchase, there should be more there. He's a $5 ed.. not a $20 Ed... given the talisman set you got with the purchase okay.. $10.. still not $20 though. As you can see I've purchased them as they are available..and this is the only time I feel a bit "snookered" by it. Unlike the other purchasables, he has no real "special" ability. That COULD have been overcome by making the time bombs trigger on burns.. not sleep.. He throws burns with every action, yet only 1 ability has a 50% chance of sleep.. and if the Magma shield on allies (from his passive) is active and any enemy hits any ally.. there goes sleep completely...and he ONLY triggers timebombs on sleep. You all are aware that reflected shield damage will wake enemies inflicted with sleep, right???? He's DESIGNED to never trigger timebombs and to wake enemies from the sleep he (or ANY other ally) MIGHT inflict. It's entirely counterproductive. Which.. okay. maybe it's Fawkes.. destined to fail... but come on!

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I do think that as a purchasable character where stats are COMPLETELY UNKNOWN until AFTER purchase, there should be more there. He's a $5 ed.. not a $20 Ed... given the talisman set you got with the purchase okay.. $10.. still not $20 though. As you can see I've purchased them as they are available..and this is the only time I feel a bit "snookered" by it. Unlike the other purchasables, he has no real "special" ability. That COULD have been overcome by making the time bombs trigger on burns.. not sleep.. He throws burns with every action, yet only 1 ability has a 50% chance of sleep.. and if the Magma shield is active and any enemy hits any ally.. there goes sleep compeltely...and he ONLY triggers timebombs on sleep. He's DESIGNED to never trigger timebombs and to wake enemies from the sleep he MIGHT inflict. IT's counterproductive. Which.. okay. maybe it's Fawkes.. but come on!

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This feedback is most appreciated! For characters that have only ever been released as a limited-time direct purchase, there's usually a bit of restraint when designing these characters so that they are not too powerful. They should be fun to use and effective to play with for the average player (especially for those still progressing through the Cosmos), but never strong enough to topple the meta or outright spoil the progression of difficulty.

I believe his original draft included something along the lines of detonating bombs after every action, but it proved to be way too powerful - especially for a 4-star character in the grand scheme of things. This is merely an example of course. Fun fact though, the damage inflicted by Magma Shield used to wake enemies but has since been modified for Guy Fawkes' release. If the tick of damage from his Magma Shield is breaking sleep for you, that would be a bug I can report.

Another fun combination worth trying is using the Bonfire Talismans on Guy Fawkes Eddie. If you pair him with a character who passively applies burns at the start of turn (not via talismans but through a passive ability), you'll start the fight with Perfect Time Bombs ready to be stacked so long as that the enemy does not have an ability to remove or prevent such effects from the start of battle.

I discovered this combo using Warrior Corrupt Rescuer and Magus Shardborne. With Guy Fawkes' Past Basic and Bonfire running, it's funny to watch the Time Bombs pile on. Major Malakhov is pretty good with him as well for such a purpose.

Nonetheless, this has been a valuable exchange so thank you for that.

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For characters that have only ever been released as a limited-time direct purchase, there's usually a bit of restraint when designing these characters so that they are not too powerful. They should be fun to use and effective to play with for the average player (especially for those still progressing through the Cosmos), but never strong enough to topple the meta or outright spoil the progression of difficulty.

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This is understood... and really, has always been my assumption. Fun.. but never gonna be a "game changer".

I was unaware of the Magma Shield not waking enemies.. is that true for other characters like W Lilith/Magma Ed's Magma Shield? Honestly, I just assumed they woke enemies as they always have. I'll need to play closer attention before commenting either way. If that is the case, then okay. I guess that at least removes his total ineffectiveness where the trigger is concerned.

I do still think he should trigger bombs on something OTHER than sleep... Like change that 50% chance to inflict sleep (which really makes no sense for the character) to something like 50% chance to inflict Flare, Toxic Burn, or Grievous burn (none of which he currently inflicts).... then trigger timbombs if that is active, but not sleep. Devs seem to be on an "add sleep ability" to characters kick recently. Which isn't a problem at all.. but I just don't see how throwing bombs puts enemies to sleep. All three of those.. Flare, Toxic and Grievous burns have only a few characters capable of inflicting those and if you don't include Eddies, it's really less than a handful.

Oh gosh, I haven't used Warrior Lilith since forever. To my knowledge, Magma Shield shouldn't break Sleep anymore (unless the change was exclusive to Guy Fawkes which is unlikely). Even so, Warrior Lilith would break Sleep regardless of the fact since her attacks don't bypass the effect in general.

As for why Sleep was chosen as a trigger, I believe one idea was that there haven't been very many Eddies to date that support Sleep teams. In recent days, there have been a fair number of new allies that bypass Sleep, but not many Eddies to go along with them. It's also worth considering the thematic element of plotting to sneakily set up bombs while your opponent sleeps.

Another fun fact for you all - elements of his abilities, such as Magma Shield and Ghost, are reflective of the real life history of Guy Fawkes - how people have burned effigies resembling him in an influence that has lasted centuries.

.. but the bombs didn't cause people to sleep.. :) s'all I'm saying :)

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For characters that have only ever been released as a limited-time direct purchase, there's usually a bit of restraint when designing these characters so that they are not too powerful. They should be fun to use and effective to play with for the average player (especially for those still progressing through the Cosmos), but never strong enough to topple the meta or outright spoil the progression of difficulty.

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The only one I've purchased so far was the 2019 Tour Eddie, and he was a massive help given where I was at in the Cosmos storyline. I've now reached Underworld Madness and Nightcity Normal, and am having to look around for a replacement. Served his purpose, and was at a price I'd happily pay again for guaranteed characters like that.

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As for why Sleep was chosen as a trigger, I believe one idea was that there haven't been very many Eddies to date that support Sleep teams.

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Feel free to buff Phantom Eddie if you want, and not just because I was lucky enough to pull him recently :P

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Another fun fact for you all - elements of his abilities, such as Magma Shield and Ghost, are reflective of the real life history of Guy Fawkes - how people have burned effigies resembling him in an influence that has lasted centuries.

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I like this about his design, the abilities fit the theme. The bombs didn't put people to sleep, but once people were asleep, the bombs went off!

Pssst don't interrupt the candlelight dinner between Durandal and Yup ;)

It is nice to read that there is a clear intention to make these pay-only characters rather weak! I completely reject the pay-only-characters concept.
At least one is now available via achievements... but in the meanwhile we have 5 Eddies + the green wolf. I see it is part of the new Navigator concept, as it is rather new. Please don't overdo it!

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Pssst don't interrupt the candlelight dinner between Durandal and Yup ;)

It is nice to read that there is a clear intention to make these pay-only characters rather weak! I completely reject the pay-only-characters concept.
At least one is now available via achievements... but in the meanwhile we have 5 Eddies + the green wolf. I see it is part of the new Navigator concept, as it is rather new. Please don't overdo it!

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I totally agree with you blade. I won’t pay money for that crappy fun-eds. Maybe they’ll be available in events/achievements soon, just as gangland now. Then, of course I’m grinding and collecting them.

ahh.. tell the truth.. you all WANT to pay for the Eds you simply can't afford it. There's no more shame in that than there is in those that do purchase them.

And quite frankly, you should be GLAD people spend money if you like this app. if they didn't there'd be no app. So yeah.. insult those that keep the app alive.. makes perfect sense.

I dont see the problem with something being offered for real money which gives an advantage in the game. The only problem I have is after a period of time it should be available for free or earned by a grindathon, as the games original intent.

If someone can afford it and chooses to purchase an advantage good for them. That is the way life works. Not everything will be given to you in real life.

One thing that could come from the dev's experimenting with teams is they could physically verify the bugs in the game. It would be interesting if they could try and explain the bugs and why they occur.

I've said it before, but since the game has the ability to AUTO PLAY, I'd assumed that the devs would run every single resource against every other possible resource in a bank of continuously grinding auto-plays running on a server in debug mode. It's not like they'd have to sit there and mash buttons, the game literally plays itself.

Note that auto-replay wasn't added until a month or two after I posted something like..... "If I just didn't have to tap the screen three times at the end of every battle it would be better... " :) Auto-replay is really a feature only introduced within the last 6 months or year.

As for why Devs probably test characters/talismans.. you **can't** merely look at numbers and now how an RNG is going to alter things.. especially THEIR RNG, which is downright hinky, or as they put it "streaky"..... and I suspect there are at least 3-6 factors for each and every battle all running on an RNG determinate.. so....yeah.. numbers aren't enough. A clear example is the 2 brave wearing wolves bug recently addressed... that specific thing WON'T happen if you set up the exact same thing for PvP - 2 characters with Brave talismans. Why it only happens in a dungeon is a mystery, at least to me.