This is the main post to discuss general changes from the recent update, and the update’s new event.
You can see the details of the update and event that has just gone live in the Game Updates forum post.
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This is the main post to discuss general changes from the recent update, and the update’s new event.
You can see the details of the update and event that has just gone live in the Game Updates forum post.
This update looks fantastic all around! I've been waiting for the Valkyries!!
Wow, thanks guys! It looks like you really listened to all the feedback and rolled a ton of things in here for us!
Super excited about new characters too! Keep up the great work! \m/
Thats how its done! Looks awesome, and many props for listening to the community :)
Man! I can't keep up with you guys lately! Any chance for better, more often Skill Shards drops? All these new and cool characters but BIG shortage of Skill Shards, at least for me.
Anyway, thanks for the cool update!
I love those new toons looks like! Reducing sot cost in skull quest is appreciated too! Thanks for this cool update! Cheers!
Umm, my game logo makes it look like I have an x rated hentai app installed on my phone
Haha very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Thedarkness
So... the Magus Valkyrie that's featured all over everything... she'll be released later, yeah?
Oh cool i got the gunner one already!!!
I got myself the gunner and the warrior
Got the assassin.
(and 1 Viking Eddie)
Given the name, I thought they were gonna look epic, but they're anime, lady, Megamen haha.
So what have all the game icons have been again? Trooper Eddie, Mummy, Shaman, Eternity, and now Magus Valkyrie, which we don't have?
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Originally Posted by BonFire
Yeah, I was expecting a Viking warrior to make sense of his name, but at least I did not feel so disappointed when I did not get any of them. :)
The ACR now seals two enemies for two turns?
Wow! I haven't gotten any lady yet... but I finally when he is no longer needed got The Prisoner from those special souls, I thought we'll be getting the newer toons & BNW characters but still fine by me.
Yep,just look at all those stability improvememts!!! Awesome f'n job NF!
Great for you guys to push out this fantastic sounding update and event literally the day after my phone stops working. I guess I'll have to get it fixed or get a new one ASAP so that I can get back into the fold.
Super rare!
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I don't like the look of them. They look far to anime and I'm struggling to see the Maiden connection to them. Though I could just ne stupid there. Why did you have to follow the the lame generoc female character appearance with the big arse titties though? Lame. Nice we have new characters and from a quick glance their skill sets seem interesting. But they seem out of place in this game to me.
Excellent work on everything else though. Looking forward to trying out BNW more and hopefully get more of the new Talismans and hopefully more Skill Shards from Skull Quests.
This BNW Soul Event reminds me how much I love the Character Fragment Events, even when they aren't for premium characters.
Watching 1000 Ironite disappear for nothing but 11 3* toons is so damn demoralizing.
thanks for adjusting SOT for SQ and improving drops for bnw. they are definetly better now. the extraturn fest seems to be over, which will be hurting a lot of defenses but i think it's a good move.
but i really think you messed up the droprates for the BNW souls. i bought 40 souls first 10 gave me AHE and warrior undead resuer, so very good pulls. other 30 gave me only 3* chars not one 4 star and above.
i know how % and RNG work so i could easily just be very unlucky. but when i chat with some guys and read what others dropped we can see a larger picture. and there it becomes very likely that the droprates for 4* and above a pretty bad. i'm convinced that a package of 10 should guarantee at least one 4* please think about this, because many people feels screwed after investing a lot and getting nothing.
but bad droprates makes sense from your perspective when we look at the new chars. they will shift the meta once again, so prolly you don't want to give them away lightly as it seems. but basicly 2 weeks after a new meta shift we get another? that's getting out of line imo.
at least we can get rid of the SSD with strikes now without problems if we are lucky to get this green chick. and some of the other girls seems to be game changers too. curious where this will lead to. it seems like you try to implement some counter strategies now which i like, but i'm sure a lot of adjusting will come again and shift it all again and again. never ending circle.
EDIT: Tried the assassin valkyrie from a trooper. she seems to count every buff on the enemy when it comes down to stun. i think she will get 4x25% to stun if 4 buffs are on. not sure of that's intended but i'd say this is a mistake, because this will kill everyone on pvp ;)
So the Blue Valkyrie they use as load icon not even in the game lol so far nothing with my pulls yet need build up on some ironite before able try again
bought 20 and got nothing only got 2 demon spawn and were the two I already had. Rather have 1800 ironite back.
Bought 30 souls and not even one 4* character, really depressing
Man thought I was unlucky. Also should have known they be quick to nerf things so quickly after I invest all those skill shards though have to admit the extra turns were a bit out of control.
Ah, that's why Vampire Hunter was godly. I never thought of that. Of course Rainmaker isn't in my PVP team so I wouldn't have.
Stay tuned...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariner-1212
We're reviewing what makes sense based on the rate of characters we're releasing and the kinds of events we're running. In general, though, I don't think we'll be improving existing farmable sources for those too much; our approach right now is to adjust when and how often events will give them (like the Worthy Sacrifice event we recently did, or the bundle from getting to a certain tier in a PVP event).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bradata
The Valkyries are definitely a bit of a departure from the designs of other characters in the game, but we wanted to push ourselves into a bit of a different territory while still tying into the theme of the Brave New World. Brutal Eddies, evil demons, badass soldiers, etc will still be a mainstay of the game, but as we add more and more characters, we also want to speak to the preferences of all kinds of players, including potential new players. We definitely appreciate your guys' feedback and criticisms, though, and we'll keep that in mind as we continue to add new characters into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90mphyorker
Well, that'd be basically like every 10 Rare Souls gives you a Legendary Soul, which is probably a biiiiit higher value than what we'd want to give for 10 Rare Souls (or 10 Event Souls). That's sort of why we've added events like the Book of Souls Legendary Event, so people could capitalize on that kind of opportunity. I think overall we'd much rather continue to experiment with adding value through events. At the end of the day, that much Rare Soul fodder is a lot of value towards getting Legendary Souls from the Vortex (or higher sacrifice tiers), so you do sort of get the value you're thinking about, just in a more roundabout way.Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
I don't know what you're talking about. Kaz didn't design a character to taunt me by countering my favourite character. You're crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
The chance to remove an effect and stun is per hit, but the stun will only occur if an effect is being removed. As such, you can't stun characters who already have no positive effects, you only get one 15-25% chance (based on skill level) to stun if they only have one positive effect, etc (to a max of 3 chances, because her basic skill deals 3 hits).Quote:
Originally Posted by slauki
Thanks for your reply on this and the other topics. The altar definitely does take some of the sting out of getting 10 3*s for 900 Ironite. But, I have to disagree with your "a lot of value" comment. 1700 Essence is less than 2% of a Vortex fill. My particular 10 dupes gave me 10 5* Yellow Runes from the altar. Better than gold, for sure. But, anyway you slice it, 900 Ironite is a big hit for that return. I know it could have easily gone in a more beneficial way. But, again, it just makes me prefer the sure thing Fragment events. It's frustrating to have my mood so susceptible to this game's RNG. But, I'm sure that's just a sign that I'm taking it too seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
I do love the update and the new characters.
I feel your pain. Spent 3k got none of the new hentai toons and mostly trash but I did get my first Assassin Eddie, storm Eddie. Was able to fill the vortex and got 20 GA souls and 2 skill shards and nothing but junk out of them. Sacrificed everything for 6 more rare souls that gave me more junk. Least i got a new Eddie right? Went to check him out and realized I accidentally sacrificed him. Ugh Fuck my dumb luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by druid138
That is true, but don't forget there's a lot of factors that'll make getting more than just 1700 essence from a single batch of 10:Quote:
Originally Posted by druid138
- One or more characters are Eddies (much more essence from those)
- Using XP and/or evo shards to level up and evolve (can easily double essence per character depending on how much you want to invest)
- One or more characters are Gunner/Assassins (a bit more essence compared to Warriors/Magus/Sentinels)
- One or more characters are 4 star or 5 star dupes (that can massively boost a single sacrifice to a higher tier, or you can save multiple high-rarity dupes and go for the higher quantities/more exclusive rewards that are available at higher tiers)
- That sacrifice could reward you back one or more Rare Souls (which effectively is another chance at a high-rarity character, or bare minimum 10% more essence than what a pull otherwise looks like)
Since a lot of long term players are still swimming in Gold and XP/Evo shards (at least the lower tier stuff), a bit of busywork can massively improve your fodder's sacrifice value, which could halve the character investment needed for your next Vortex. It's definitely true that the result still could be a small pile of materials that you don't need, but it could also turn into a Rare Soul that could get you a Valkyrie, or a different Eddie or Ally you don't have.
Absolute horror story, dude. Now I feel like I don't have a right to complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazypants
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Originally Posted by Thedarkness
I don't mind playing a game that sexually objectifies half its female characters. I don't even mind The Clairvoyant appearing in all the promo ads with her cloak open to reveal all that extra busty cleavage that totally isn't there in-game. But these "Valkyries" just look so cartoon-ish that it's just creepy. I really hope they get updated, quickly, to look more human or less hentai-sexual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Fair enough. I've never considered the extra Essence worth powering up characters just for Sacrifice. I'm on a quest to get all but a few characters up to Level 100. So, the XP shards will be valuable for a long time. But, your comments are making me realize the additional opportunity costs of my quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
I am sure its known but want to point out endure, roulette and other not attack moves are still triggering counters.
Just tested the assassin valkyrie of a trooper. Ridiculously OP removing effects and stunning like crazy. She will dominate pvp I'm calling it right now.
I knew something was different! For some reason I never noticed the ads had cleavage and in game she didn't. Then again, you never really go back to relive story moments. I always focuesed on her being 2 feet taller and losing the sleeves for bracers. Hm... In game cutscenes have been replaced with the toon version. She's no longer got spina bifida while carrying the orb.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadOnFire
Thanks for the reply and acknowledging our opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
I can deal with the sexualisation of females characters in the game. I think there is better ways to portray female characters in the game but it's not the worst thing ever. But I feel these ones just look bad. HeadOnFire summed up my opinion on it. They look far too creepy as they look for too hentai-sexual. Which not what I associate with this game. The sexualisation of the Clairvoywant was okay because even though it was obvious, it was subtle enough that she still fit in with the theme of the game, the other characters in the game and not all female characters in the game are like that. The Corrupt Rescuers are great because they look like they belong in the game and have that feel of Iron Maiden imagery. To me, esspecially as they aren't strictly related to the game, the Valkyries don't.
Get Eddie back as the app icon though please!
And in your response to Bradata about Skills Shards, I appreciate Skill Shards are one of the ultimate things in the game and you intend to keep them as a premium item, which I agree with. But would a Skill Shard event ever happen? Something like that 5* Eddie event in LoL but for Skill Shards. I think an event like that would be a great event for everyone.
Second that, would love to have a skill shard event I could grind for. Feel bad I blew 20+ skill shards on vampire hunter now just to compete in arena only for the extra turn nerf after one week.
I've had a chance to try them all and agree the purple is the most fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezz
But dominate PvP is a strong term. It was said before beta about the Gunner CotD - then it was said about GCR - etc.
I think the only toon that had that phrase appropriately applied was the Prisoner - he DID establish a strong line between the haves and the have-nots.
This toon has base 7000ish HP - and typical Assassin low def and mr - she's going to go down easy. And if there's no beneficials on a target - as is often the case after the first round - she won't be effective.
Is she a great toon? Yes - there has to be a "best of the bunch" like Wrath was the best Eternal - but will GMAC or Kamuz be lower in the PvP rankings if they don't have her?
Absolutely not.
In fact I suffered two straight losses to Kamuz - my third and fourth of the week - figuring out a team for her - perfect testing ground cause he has one of the best defenses around.