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I have just over 300 runs in and have pulled 3 sets of each talisman and about 30% ironite return. I didnt keep track of the FC or talisman frags.
Beautiful work here, Bakura and Azagthor. Just beautiful.
Yeah, it's great to have a dungeon deliver on the talismans.... the Sun talis dropped pretty decent too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzleloader
I really loved the Cosmic talisman frags.... I definitely needed the gold.
The Awakenings frags have been nicely dropping also.
Thanks... from both of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by druid138
Feel free to post your teams.
I think this was a very good dungeon. I like the talisman for one of my favorite all-time characters (Musashi). And then that the Shinobi is for all Shinobi's. Then also the passive Samurai Eddie. The secondary rewards were good too--gold return on the talisman. And who would turn down a few more Yin/Yang? Nice job on the above summary and also to the developers. I know we've seen this dungeon in the past, but it is a beautiful one.
One of the better Frontiers
Amazing job bakura
I fully agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Horus-2545
That Crimson Blades event back in November kind of left a bad taste in my mouth.
The RNG was not in my favor, so I didn't pull Cosmic Shinobi or any of the NEW dogs... except the blue dog in the LOL grind.
Plus, I just can't spend $100 to $150 to buy enough ironite to buy enough souls to get the required 750 or 500 frags needed to get the EVENT EXCLUSIVE characters in this and the Mystic Flame Eddie event.
I got ZERO event souls in those,
Yet Halloween, Cyborg Monday & Christmas, I got every single one.
Alot of times, those "non-grind for character frag" events usually have the toons that are no biggie if you miss them anyway.
But I use VHE, A. WW, BHE, Scrooge and the Christmas Ghosts all the time.
But yeah, this Samurai Dungeon Kinda redeems itself in this event!
Let’s say Crimson Blades was a precursor for this dungeon
Agree that this dungeon is pretty good. Visuals are cool and drops are decent. After 621 runs I got 8 sun, 11 yin talismans and 9 yang. Tali soul frag drops are great, finally some of the much needed gold. Drawside was that ironite and SoT return weren't that good but other things even it out.
I initially scoffed at the rewards for this dungeon, before realizing the dungeon itself is a 30-second farming run. The improvement to how keys are acquired, rewarded, and the number of runs you can get in one key are tuned very well. Talisman frags/Gold idol drops are nice. My Gold is back at a comfortable level (for now).
THANKS guys for the comments and stopping in to post!
I still can't get over Caesar's 21 second time on that Airstrip dungeon.
After some of those "Gunner only Insanity" levels, these dungeons are a nice change. I certainly cuss less...LOL!
There have been some tough dungeon challenges lately--and those were fun in their own way, but it's nice to finally get back to worrying about how much SoT I'm blowing through :p
And agreed, that 21-second run just blew me away. Gotta love a tight speed run. Hats off to Caesar.
After looking at Wave IV, i.e. "Why can't I debuff that Shinobi?" it appears that the start of battle for Gate talismans comes before the start of battle for Redemption talismans, but after the start of TURN where the de-buffs that get turned into buffs get applied.
Except not always! 35% of the time, Viper applies Perfect Corruption, and Gate cannot transform into beneficial effects because beneficial effects cannot be gained.
Anyways, 0:32 with this team:
Alex Ed – Vipers/Death Mark
Killer Beast – Starfire
Warrior Onyx Son – Ragnarok/Future
Christmas Ghost – Mark/Blight/Ascension
I question Redemption talis. It seems like they don't work anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ydex
The Ragnarok talis get applied first, as it seems, in these last 2 new dungeons, so I believe the Gate talis are transforming the perf. corruption & perf. crave from ragnaroks and bleed, perf. disable, perf corruption from Vipers.
I'm not a 100% sure about the order and how the AI applies passives and talis. I wish there was an obvious order so we could strategize accordingly.
I think newbies w/ out Ragnaroks will find this dungeon a little more challenging.
Once all those buffs get applied, it can make the run time much longer, for sure.
FYI.... I added a commentary to each Wave shown on page 1.
I got all the info from the Compendium. I really just covered the major bullet points w/ each enemy.
Let me know what you guys think.
It may all be overkill considering how easy the dungeon is, but I was keeping in mind beginners.... Plus, I had to add something substantial.
I didn't just want this dungeon guide being a "bunch of pretty pictures."
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I don't think the dungeon is "easy".. it's merely not as ridiculous impossible as the 6 enemy with viper, labyrinth, ragnarok, orbit, celestial, and lightbringer talismans.... they've been creating :)
In other words, it's not easy, it's just not overpowered.. and we've become accustomed to new dungeons being overpowered. It's nice that this is setup to be entertaining rather than frustrating.
Nice work on the run through guys!
Thank you, Guys. Awesome work! Yeah, teamwork rules.
Completely agree with you! Remember how annoying that first wave with the five Shinobi was in the event dungeon? What a nightmare...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
Yeah, the SoT and Ironite returns aren't great, but they're compensated for well by the talisman and awakening fragments, as well as the Frontier Coins. Samurai appears very similar to Powerslave in terms of rewards, and may be the new best way to get Blue 3* evo bricks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ydex
Yeah, mostly agree with you. I'd say it's a proper Medium difficulty. It's somewhere in-between an event dungeon's HARD and MADNESS modes, and the class restriction keeps it from being too easy. It's certainly more accessible that some other frontier dungeons though, which is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yup
Really nice job Bakura, the dungeon guide looks awesome!
It is really easy to take it for granted. Clearly a lot of work and dedication went into creating, not only this, but all other Dungeon guides.
Thanks a lot for them and for being able to count on you in these "ironite scarce" days :)
Thks guys for this post and your dedication, also dev team for this nice dungeon, which finally drops some blue bricks quiet often (more than PS in my opinion) the only "shame" is the high requierement of running that Wicker Evolved to get the Emperor.
I´m running this team as a fast one with a decent 0:39
Samurai Ed (ragnarok/cosmic)
Max Lol (Orbit)
Lilith (Viper/cosmic)
The Nomad (The Nomad cosmic + whatevah) the really key thing here is The Nomad Cosmic, which really power up the team.
Maiden, you could try a different 4th ally who could use trooper talisman to get echo when you take damage.
NotB and w LoL can clear the dungeon between 30-50 second with the event toons. Lilith is nice to bust through the vanish but is not necessary.
To: druid138, Horus, Metallicamilo, yup, zzzoron, ritchbe, infinite dreamer, Maiden and all who have posted,
Thank you for your appreciation & support!
It means alot to me and I'm sure also to Azagthor.
It motivates us to continue our efforts.
*Btw, I've enjoyed the Awakening & Cosmic frags. With these things I've had enough gold/awakening materials to fully awaken a couple of toons and max out plenty of T3 cosmics.
Not to mention all the bonus stuff (ironite, cosmics, souls) from completing all the Achievements and event Challenges.
Samurai, Airstrip and Powerslave have all been prosperous events..... and just plain super, duper fun! 😁
Yes, I crave that external validation. Please give me that sweet sweet dopamine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
I'm up to 380 runs now, and as expected, I need to update my reward image. Was super lucky on my first two keys and overestimated the Skill Shard drop rates. They are a rare drop, not an uncommon one. Will have some new and improved drop data for you all soon.
Azagthor
Bakura*
I'm hyped to see y'all collaborating your prodigious efforts.
Great work. This community spirit is the best part of the game.
May F.S.M. touch you with his noodly appendage!
(sorry, Bakura, you're listed alphabetically)
Ok.... couple of questions for ya.
First, so I got the Musashi T3 & Shinobi T3.
Is there any other reason to keep grinding?
I mean I already had 2 Emperors since he debuted in 2018, did all the achievements anyway. Got enough Catastrophic frags for the 2 T3's.
I do need 3 Shinobi awakening fishies, but considering I don't have Cosmic Shinobi and probably won't for along time....what's the rush for awakening shards.
They should have included the opportunity to get her in this Samurai event.
I probably don't need the T2 shinobi cosmic. I hardly if ever use them in gauntlet anymore. I'm not really using Nomad and he has his own T3..... probably will be the same for alliance general.
I have 2 Musashis, thought about a second T3 for him.... then put Vipers on both in arena.... just to annoy people.
2nd question: who are you guys planning on spotlighting and testing your Shinobi cosmic on?
I picked sentinel, w/ Gate talis. The Gates impressed me on this recent dungeon. BUT THEN I REMEMBERED her cosmic grants her immunity to all negative effects, I guess that includes Silver. I figured I'll try Greed instead of Fortunes for Gauntlet.
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(Azagthor.... I know you wanna lick that dragon tattoo on her inner right thigh.)
The Gunner Shinobi is cool too. Hits pretty hard & grants immunity to allies for 2 rounds.
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Post your favorite below!!!
All 6 Shinobis can wear that cosmic... so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
I grabbed the T3 Musashi cosmic and 1 T3 Shinobi... but...
I'm grinding to see if I can hit another 4k frags (at around 3600 right now), if yes, I'll grab 2 of the T2 Shinobi cosmics.
I also have 2 Musahsi, but don't see a need to use them both at the same time ever (single hitter and all). So, were I to fall short of the 4K mark, I'll grab another T3 Shinobi cosmic. to use on another Shinobi.
The T3 I already have is on W Shinobi since I was running her in the dungeon.. I've moved on now.. better run times without her. So, I'll ultimately pay more attention to the abilities and see where it may fit best. S Shinobi seems to be the best for Gauntlet runs higher up.. so she's a likely candidate. A Shinobi also may work well.
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By the way.. I was playing around.. leveled up 3 5 star Hearts.. put Viper, Ragnarok and Lycan talismans on them and each with a Cosmic Echo.. ran the Samurai dungeon with Phantom Ed (Starfires) and the 3 hearts... no problem winning on auto.. just took about 2 minutes per run. :)
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Now.. same questions about Explosive frags.. I have DDpasive Ed and the General's T3.. why bother grinding for anything else specifically in the next 20 days? I mean sure frags for cosmic frags or whatever, but those can be gained by farming places other than Airstrip. Am I missing the payoff other than DDP ed and the T3?
(DDP ed ain't that great - still a 4 star and the ONLY thing DD has going for him is his Fury, without that.. well...)
And what's with the catastrophic and dungeon frags???? Seems really short sighted and only able to collect a specific amount of those frags.. and not enough to really do much at all??
I mean the Catastrophic frags seemed to be set so that everyone could only get the same amount, nothing more.
And the Dungeon frags had item price tags in the mid to upper 5 figures or even 6 figures and absolutely no time to grind for that many frags... Just don't understand all these random frags with next to no real payoff for them.
The only decent frags really are the torrential frags.. extra stuff for doing nothing extra... but I'm guessing those may be a "limited time" thing.
I don't think you're missing anything-- they've just tossed us a couple of softball dungeons. Remember the snowflake frags, when we all didn't know what else to do with them? I expect that is the similar case here.
Thanks bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ydex
Yeah, working w/ Azagthor is great. Super nice guy, talented and great w/ data collecting. He reached out to me a long time ago. That was great, cuz instead of seeing him as competition, I quickly saw him as an ally and friend. Plus, he covers the stuff I was missing. I would say that w/ each Dungeon Guide I try to always improve, and this is the best yet. I need to go and edit the previous ones, especially the unfinished LoL.
It's a shame though.... seems like less people on here nowadays.... thanks to Discord chat. ☹
Btw.... your alphabetical skills are incorrect.
It should be:
A1 Super Best Bakura
Azagthor
🤣😆🤣😅😂😉😁
@ Yup
You hit on alot of good points.
If you have ADD ED and Gen.'s T3... I don't see a reason to keep grinding Airstrip.
I might keep grinding Samurai for another Shinobi cosmic, as well. It's always good to have toons ready to go tali wise for gauntlet.... even if just to breeze through to S or SS.
What's nice and different is the option to get the Shinobi/Musashi t3's more than once. In the past there was a limit to 1. It's probably cuz of the 6 shinobies and they just didn't bother to change it for Musashi's.
The catastrophic frags were just enough to get the (2) T3's. I know the abilities are lame but I figured a purple t3 has gotta be cool.... like the first one w/ freeze. But, sadly these are lower Hp and the lightning one... I used that ability in Airstrip.... it was like blowing hot air.
Have you verified the Shinobi cosmic grants immunity to Silver?
Just like the description to "Cleanse" says "all negative effects" but doesn't refer to Silver.... so I'm always doubtful if it doesn't say "including silver effects."
Yeah I grabbed the 2 T3s with Catastrophic frags.. but that's all you can get... I don't really grasp that.
I THINK they are allowing more character-specific Cosmic purchases because you can have more of those characters. Just guessing. Since they can ONLY be used on those characters, there's no real harm in the talismans being collected, unlike grabbing 10 Meteor T3 and throwing them on all your characters.
To be frank, I kind of get the impression they are still somewhat working out HOW they want some of this stuff to work. They aren't sure what players will do with things so they just try some things. Evo event rewards have, well, been less than stellar... and the frag events have decent rewards at times but silly caps on what's possible. Okay.. back to being, Yup.
I don't mind the frags for gold/ironite/runes etc stuff.. but the return for frag cost seems RIDICULOUSLY low on these items considering the grind to get the frags. WHY can't I use X frags (less than 1,000) to get 50 2 star colorless evo runes (enough to evolve 1 cosmic talisman) rather than x frags for ONE rune and ONLY 5 times (total 5 runes, not even 2 normal evolutions)?
I'm sure they have their plan.. but it kind of looks bassakwards from my end.
Everything costs a high number of frags.. and beyond 1 or 2 featured items, just isn't worth the grind. MANY of these store frag purchase things would be better off as MISSION REWARDS rather than "purchase with frags" items.... remember Missions.. that tab that's been blank for a year???
Hey, just saw this, and in case you weren't aware - Cosmic Shinobi's coming in a couple of Heroic rotations. So you'll have her sooner than you think! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakura
I've been playing around with 2 Musashi combos in Arena, and I think it's definitely worth the time in my case - you get a lot of awakening shards, bricks, tali shards, and other goodies. 2 Mushies at the same time isn't really that viable - but using 1 on permanent defense, I'm free to use the other how I like for Gauntlet, offense teams, etc... Mushy is one of my favorite non-awakenable toons, and very versatile, especially with this cosmic, barring 6-sets. So it's totally up to your own game, of course - but I think that getting 2 Mushy T3s and 1 Shinobi is the way to go. I can't foresee any Arena situation that'll require any Shinobi other than Cosmic, and the tali can be quickly borrowed for Gauntlet even if you're using her on your Arena D team. I can definitely see having a permanent badass Mushy in play at all times, and having the other one change to fit different situations - so why not grab 2 now, not knowing when the next time these'll show up will be? They're not essential, like the Cyborg tali, so it probably won't be available somehow every 3 or 4 months...
Your mileage, as always, may vary.
Well, never mind using 2 Musashi w/ vipers to annoy people.... he's already getting infinite attacks if he's last man standing.
Another Beast scenario, BUG!
And why does disabling Musashis passive disable his T3? round 1... Wtf?
Serenity allowing silver on toons.... and so many other bugs.
Just doing arena for ironite rewards at this point.
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Fast as I could get it. Team was posted in event thread.
Speed team...
Number of the Beast - Venom, Sacred, Gold T3 Cosmic (Immunity, 2k+ Physical and Magic, 20k+ Health)
Shinobi - Viper, Shinobi Cosmic
Bomber Boy - Starfire
Wicker Wolf Evolved 1* - Ragnarok, Cosmic Echo
Maybe order had some play. I didn’t want Wicker Wolf using his power move as it ate up time hitting one mob. If Kurenai used hers it usually wiped them all then and there. Hence the reason I had Vipers on her. Also, it just looks and feels like Kurenai attacks faster than Wicker Wolf, saving a second or two. Then again, I could be talking out of my ass.
36-40 secs was roughly the average.
NotB and w LoL can clear the dungeon between 30-50 seconds regardless of other allies. I had echo cosmic on LoL. If you put trooper talis on other allies it helps when the opponent went first and put echo on your team.
Thanks for posting man! Good to hear from ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saigrim
I too tried different setups... they all were anywhere between 30-50 seconds avg.
I ended up using:
Football Chile Ed- ValhallaCosmic (his Fury is just da bomb)
Sehkmet- Vipers/Cosmic (I wanted her counter attacking cuz she removes buffs, especially w/ Magus Shinobi having Invisibility soooo much.)
Killer Beast- Starfire
Wicker wolf evolved- Ragnarok/Cosmic (I used him imstead of W. LOL... I didn't want LOL countering and wasting time if M. Shinobi had invisibility.)
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W. Ghost of Giving worked well too. He has a powerful punch!
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I'm done. I got the Musashi T3 and the Shinobi T3.... already had W.E.D. Ed and the 3 required Fishy awakening shards.
Saving ironite for Apocalypse DD Ed and future events,
I’m using:
- Football Ed (Valhalla & cosmic)
- M LOL Max (Ragnarok & cosmic)
- Charlotte (Viper & cosmic)
- KB (Starfire)
(After finishing ALL achievements with your all achievements team Bakura with 300 runs).
100%, about 100 runs per key, fastest 25 sec (by now) avg. 28-31 secs.
And I’m done ✅ for now. 1k runs accomplished 🤪😱.
1,000 runs.... wow, how many cosmics did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caesar815
*Btw, you owe me royalties for using my team. I charge .03 cents per run, and we'll just round it out to 500 of the 1,000 runs were with my team. So, that's $15. Plus, $1.50 for the access fee, totaling $16.50 which is just enough for me to get the $14.99 (+ tax) 675 Ironite deal.
I accept Google Play cards.
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hey Yup the dungeon and catastrophic frags according to devs are going be usable looping frags so i'm assuming the exchange items will change so hopefully they bring back other things that some were not able to get, i think the cyborg/bhe tali was one of those such items when they became available.
now a question about the dungeon if anyone has possible answers; each time i summon a key its saying play to earn sun talisman and each time its been onslaught, i'm currently 200 runs in and only have gotten 2yin/1yang so i was wondering if anyone has a rough estimate on sun talisman drops and if when opening a key it says the same thing for you guys when opening them?
thanks for help